Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Thank you for this description, Peggy, 

And for enlightening me on what you brought into that Closing Circle, without 
naming it.

So a wish of mine had been fulfilled, and I never knew! 

I had discovered Bohm Dialogue in 2004, after several OSTs the year before. In 
more „normal“ OST’s I found that sometimes the conversation was too mental and 
linear for me, and too little listening took place. So I was interested in ways 
of going deeper. His book opened up new possibilities and touched me deeply. 
Yet I couldn’t find anyone close by who actually used it. I had a strong wish 
of participating in such a Dialogue. Now, 14 years later, I learn that I 
actually did. Big smile over here...

Marai

PS: I appreciate your links and the document you attached. 



> Am 16.07.2019 um 00:23 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
> :
> 
> Marai,
> 
> I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my 
> offering to what we did in that closing circle. 
> 
> Bohm Dialogue  is a form of 
> circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a large 
> group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex subject. 
> The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in part what set 
> me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met Harrison in 1994. 
> (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 people. But that first 
> time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with Peter Senge and they had 
> 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d never seen anything like 
> that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the conference organizers.)
> 
> In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing 
> consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a 
> book called Changing Consciousness 
> .
>   He also wrote a seminal essay called On Dialogue 
> .
>  These were early influences for me.
> 
> What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and 
> experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended 
> reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking 
> visible to the whole. 
> 
> Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the 
> considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm 
> Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much 
> patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or 
> better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like 
> Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement 
> practices.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>> I smile, reading your description.
>> 
>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>> that in my story.
>> 
>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>> talking object and spoke up.
>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>> 
>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
>> belong to the community, in some way or another?
>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>> perspective in themselves?
>> 
>> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
>> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
>> group:
>> Moscow / Russia.
>> 
>> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>> 
>> Marai 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>>> 
>>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>>> added the essential guidance to spe

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Peggy Holman via OSList]

Diana — LOL…we’re getting old!

To put that in perspective, following that amazing conference experience in 
Portland, one of the conference participants from Seattle faxed (yes, this 
pre-dated email) all of the attendees from Seattle to find out who was 
interested in continuing to experiment with Bohm Dialogue. About 15 of us 
showed up. We met monthly for over a year. 

I learned a lot about the power of open ended dialogue. In fact, it informed 
how we worked when we started the Open Space Institute-US. After a couple of 
tedious meetings using a traditional project management approach where I’d 
coming with a pre-set agenda and we’d slog through it, we shifted to doing a 
check-in, where people spoke to what they wanted to cover, moved into an open 
ended exploration, and closed with a check-out. What I discovered was that not 
only did we cover everything on the list that I compulsively made for myself, 
but we covered things that hadn’t occurred to me. Plus, we enjoyed each other’s 
company. In other words, we got more done and had more fun. Sure changed the 
way I worked!

Peggy




> On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Diana Larsen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whoa Peggy. We have almost known each other for a long time. I was at that 
> same 1993 event with Senge et al. 😁
> 
> That Dialogue Circle was a very cool introduction to complex system dynamics. 
> 
> Diana
> 
> Diana Larsen 
> Agile Fluency Project
> - 
> 
> Sent from my phone. 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 15:23, Peggy Holman via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Marai,
>> 
>> I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my 
>> offering to what we did in that closing circle. 
>> 
>> Bohm Dialogue  is a form of 
>> circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a 
>> large group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex 
>> subject. The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in 
>> part what set me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met 
>> Harrison in 1994. (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 
>> people. But that first time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with 
>> Peter Senge and they had 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d 
>> never seen anything like that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the 
>> conference organizers.)
>> 
>> In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for 
>> changing consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, 
>> he wrote a book called Changing Consciousness 
>> .
>>   He also wrote a seminal essay called On Dialogue 
>> .
>>  These were early influences for me.
>> 
>> What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and 
>> experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended 
>> reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our 
>> thinking visible to the whole. 
>> 
>> Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the 
>> considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>> P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm 
>> Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so 
>> much patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar 
>> or better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like 
>> Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement 
>> practices.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>>> I smile, reading your description.
>>> 
>>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>>> that in my story.
>>> 
>>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>>> talking object and spoke up.
>>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>>> 
>>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those 
>>> who belong to the community, in some way or another?
>>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>>> perspective in themselves?
>>> 
>>> To me, that was a sacred momen

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Suzanne Daigle via OSList]

Hi to all the Nova Scotia WOSonOS Alumni,
I am writing to you from beautiful New Brunswick Canada where I am
vacationing with family.  How I revel in the spirit of this inquiry which
happened before my life transforming exposure to Open Space in 2009.  Soon
after that first introduction, I collected all my air miles and rushed to
Taiwan for the WOSonOS there. I relish the memories of it so deeply, in the
same "spirit" as folks sharing here.

Thank you Marai for posting this inquiry. It reminds us of the huge impact
of those global gatherings and our deep connection and affection of Open
Space. Even though our stories aren't the same, the awe and gratitude we
feel are beyond words.

I smile thinking of the title of my post yesterday on Facebook extending an
invitation to this year's WOSonOS  to old pals and new pals: "Come Create
New Memories with Us". Prescient perhaps, synchronicity certainly.  How
wonderful it would be if many came to share their old memories.
https://osius.org/wosonos2019

Thank you!
Suzanne


Suzanne Daigle
Open Space Facilitator
NuFocus Strategic Group

FL 941-359-8877
Cell: 203-722-2009
www.nufocusgroupusa.com
s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
Twitter @Daiglesuz



On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:28 AM David Osborne via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> It sounds like it must be time for a return to Nova Scotia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I have to admit my memory is light on those details. I think from my
> perspective I was facilitating a circle. And I do remember personally at
> some point that Moscow seemed like a clear choice. It just shimmered I to
> being.
>
> I also remember that I think we deeply entrusted the next Wosonos to the
> Moscow deep, and there is a bit of a sacred trust in taking responsibility
> for this gathering.
>
> Chris
>
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
> I smile, reading your description.
>
> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?)
> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate
> that in my story.
>
> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the
> talking object and spoke up.
> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where
> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>
> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but
> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those
> who belong to the community, in some way or another?
> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their
> perspective in themselves?
>
> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere
> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole
> group:
> Moscow / Russia.
>
> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>
> Marai
>
>
> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>
> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to
> two places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I
> remember we used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting
> it up with something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And
> you, Chris, added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from
> personal experience.
>
> Peggy
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too
> (or was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him
> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and
> see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I
> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!
>
> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was
> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.
>
> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from
> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with
> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.
>
> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my
> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX
> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was
> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and
> drinking every night!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Jul 1

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[David Osborne via OSList]

It sounds like it must be time for a return to Nova Scotia. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have to admit my memory is light on those details. I think from my 
> perspective I was facilitating a circle. And I do remember personally at some 
> point that Moscow seemed like a clear choice. It just shimmered I to being. 
> 
> I also remember that I think we deeply entrusted the next Wosonos to the 
> Moscow deep, and there is a bit of a sacred trust in taking responsibility 
> for this gathering.  
> 
> Chris
> 
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>> I smile, reading your description.
>> 
>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>> that in my story.
>> 
>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>> talking object and spoke up.
>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>> 
>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
>> belong to the community, in some way or another?
>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>> perspective in themselves?
>> 
>> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
>> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
>> group:
>> Moscow / Russia.
>> 
>> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>> 
>> Marai 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>>> 
>>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>>> experience. 
>>> 
>>> Peggy
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too 
 (or was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him 
 based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and 
 see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I 
 rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
 
 I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
 killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
 
 I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
 Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with 
 Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
 
 Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
 favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
 which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
 great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and 
 drinking every night!
 
 Chris
 
 
> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on 
> TV at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  
>> wrote:
>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>> 
>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>> 
>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization 
>> Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th 
>> US OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 
>> - and that's the limit of my memory :)
>> 
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the 
>>> years. Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Diana Larsen via OSList]

Whoa Peggy. We have almost known each other for a long time. I was at that same 
1993 event with Senge et al. 😁

That Dialogue Circle was a very cool introduction to complex system dynamics. 

Diana

Diana Larsen 
Agile Fluency Project
- 

Sent from my phone. 

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 15:23, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Marai,
> 
> I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my 
> offering to what we did in that closing circle. 
> 
> Bohm Dialogue is a form of circle process. It was the first practice I ever 
> experienced in which a large group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply 
> explored a complex subject. The year was 1993 and practicing this form of 
> interaction is in part what set me up to appreciate the power of Open Space 
> when I met Harrison in 1994. (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 
> 20-40 people. But that first time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon 
> with Peter Senge and they had 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. 
> I’d never seen anything like that before. In fact, it was an experiment for 
> the conference organizers.)
> 
> In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing 
> consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a 
> book called Changing Consciousness.  He also wrote a seminal essay called On 
> Dialogue. These were early influences for me.
> 
> What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and 
> experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended 
> reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking 
> visible to the whole. 
> 
> Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the 
> considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm 
> Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much 
> patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or 
> better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like 
> Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement 
> practices.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>> I smile, reading your description.
>> 
>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>> that in my story.
>> 
>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>> talking object and spoke up.
>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>> 
>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
>> belong to the community, in some way or another?
>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>> perspective in themselves?
>> 
>> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
>> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
>> group:
>> Moscow / Russia.
>> 
>> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>> 
>> Marai 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>>> 
>>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>>> experience. 
>>> 
>>> Peggy
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too 
 (or was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him 
 based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and 
 see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I 
 rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
 
 I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
 killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
 
 I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
 Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with 
 Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>>>

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I have to admit my memory is light on those details. I think from my 
perspective I was facilitating a circle. And I do remember personally at some 
point that Moscow seemed like a clear choice. It just shimmered I to being. 

I also remember that I think we deeply entrusted the next Wosonos to the Moscow 
deep, and there is a bit of a sacred trust in taking responsibility for this 
gathering.  

Chris

_
CHRIS CORRIGAN
www.chriscorrigan.com

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
> I smile, reading your description.
> 
> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
> that in my story.
> 
> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
> talking object and spoke up.
> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
> 
> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
> belong to the community, in some way or another?
> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
> perspective in themselves?
> 
> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
> group:
> Moscow / Russia.
> 
> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
> 
> Marai 
> 
> 
>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>> :
>> 
>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>> 
>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>> experience. 
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
>>> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him 
>>> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and 
>>> see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I 
>>> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
>>> 
>>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
>>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
>>> 
>>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
>>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with 
>>> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>>> 
>>> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
>>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
>>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
>>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and 
>>> drinking every night!
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
 November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
 at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
 
 Jeff
 San Francisco
 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  wrote:
> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
> instead of a website based conversation? 
> 
> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
> 
> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization 
> Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US 
> OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - 
> and that's the limit of my memory :)
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is 
>> that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am 
>> sure you will find the collective ruminations. 
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Messa

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
I smile, reading your description.

I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate that 
in my story.

I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
talking object and spoke up.
As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where expressing 
themselves to broaden their perspective.

Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
belong to the community, in some way or another?
What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their perspective 
in themselves?

To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
group:
Moscow / Russia.

But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)

Marai 


> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
> :
> 
> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
> 
> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
> experience. 
> 
> Peggy
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
>> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based 
>> on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I 
>> still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it 
>> with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
>> 
>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
>> 
>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi 
>> Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>> 
>> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking 
>> every night!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
>>> at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken >> > wrote:
>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>>> 
>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>>> 
>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
>>> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in 
>>> Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the 
>>> limit of my memory :)
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
>>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
>>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that 
>>> you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you 
>>> will find the collective ruminations. 
>>> 
>>> Harrison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList >> >
>>> To: ost list international >> >
>>> Cc: Marai Kiele >> >
>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
>>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
>>> 
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> It wa

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Peggy Holman via OSList]

Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!

The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, added 
the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal experience. 

Peggy


> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based 
> on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I 
> still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it 
> with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
> 
> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
> 
> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi 
> Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
> 
> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was great 
> conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking every 
> night!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
>> at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken > > wrote:
>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet back 
>> then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv instead 
>> of a website based conversation? 
>> 
>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>> 
>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
>> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in Colorado 
>> '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the limit of 
>> my memory :)
>> 
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that 
>> you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you 
>> will find the collective ruminations. 
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList > >
>> To: ost list international > >
>> Cc: Marai Kiele > >
>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
>> 
>> Hey folks,
>> 
>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>> book.
>> 
>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
>> became obvious to the group).
>> 
>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
>> like:
>> 
>> - How many participants were we?
>> - From approximately how many countries?
>> 
>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>> 
>> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
>> this year?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>> Marai
>> 
>> https://about.me/maraikiele 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[R Chaffe via OSList]

When?  When what?  There was a gathering in 1990 or there about when Harrison 
was in Melbourne Australia.  It certainly included others who were from our 
International community of ICA.  The idea of WOS on Os had not been borne then 
(I was going to say conceived).  Clearly the idea of a global community Opening 
Space was was lurking around as Harrison’s “Sprit” was written.  I think it is 
fair to say that the event called WOSonOS emerged in the early to mid 90’s.  
Nova Scotia, is a clear recollection as it was a part of Canada that as a 
family we fell in love with on or visit in the early 1980’s.  Education and job 
starts for my family were a higher priority for any disposable income for me at 
that time so, I enjoyed the stories but the various WOSonOSs became a blur 
until Marysville.  Not much help in exact times but my comments may reflect 
some of thinking through the 80s and early 90s.  It is amazing how it has 
matured into the event it now is and the many long friendships that have 
resulted through those travelling, sometimes well outside their comfort zones, 
to be part of and take responsibility for, the conversations, ideas and 
suggestions that have developed during and after these events.  

Regards
Rob

> On 15 Jul 2019, at 4:17 pm, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based 
> on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I 
> still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it 
> with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
> 
> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
> 
> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi 
> Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
> 
> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was great 
> conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking every 
> night!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
>> at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  wrote:
>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>>> 
>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>>> 
>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
>>> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in 
>>> Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the 
>>> limit of my memory :)
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
 On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
  wrote:
 The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
 Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
 year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is 
 that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am 
 sure you will find the collective ruminations. 
 
 Harrison
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Marai Kiele via OSList 
 To: ost list international 
 Cc: Marai Kiele 
 Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
 Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
 
 Hey folks,
 
 I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
 Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
 book.
 
 It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
 (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
 became obvious to the group).
 
 I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
 numbers like:
 
 - How many participants were we?
 - From approximately how many countries?
 
 And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
 Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
 
 - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
 - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up 
 to this year?
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 Marai
 
 https://about.me/maraikiele
>>

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or was 
it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based on a 
Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I still 
have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it with 
Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  

I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was killed 
in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  

I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from Turkey 
and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi Birk) at 
Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  

Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX which 
I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was great 
conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking every 
night!

Chris


> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV at 
> the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  > wrote:
> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet back 
> then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv instead 
> of a website based conversation? 
> 
> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
> 
> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in Colorado 
> '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the limit of 
> my memory :)
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of year 
> -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that you 
> use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you will 
> find the collective ruminations. 
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marai Kiele via OSList  >
> To: ost list international  >
> Cc: Marai Kiele  >
> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
> book.
> 
> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
> became obvious to the group).
> 
> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
> like:
> 
> - How many participants were we?
> - From approximately how many countries?
> 
> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
> 
> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
> this year?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele 
> 
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the
November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV
at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.

Jeff
San Francisco

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  wrote:

> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet
> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv
> instead of a website based conversation?
>
> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering.
>
> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation"
> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in
> Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the
> limit of my memory :)
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years.
>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of
>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that
>> you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you
>> will find the collective ruminations.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> To: ost list international 
>> Cc: Marai Kiele 
>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova
>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories
>> book.
>>
>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making
>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it
>> became obvious to the group).
>>
>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are
>> numbers like:
>>
>> - How many participants were we?
>> - From approximately how many countries?
>>
>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>>
>> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up
>> to this year?
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>> Marai
>>
>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet
back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv
instead of a website based conversation?

I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering.

Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation"
taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in
Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the
limit of my memory :)

Jeff
San Francisco

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years.
> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of
> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that
> you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you
> will find the collective ruminations.
>
> Harrison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marai Kiele via OSList 
> To: ost list international 
> Cc: Marai Kiele 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova
> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories
> book.
>
> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making
> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it
> became obvious to the group).
>
> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are
> numbers like:
>
> - How many participants were we?
> - From approximately how many countries?
>
> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>
> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up
> to this year?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> Marai
>
> https://about.me/maraikiele
>
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

PS: Counting the countries I amuse myself thinking that Austria, Germany, 
Estonia, etc. are counted as different countries, and the whole USA and the 
whole of Canada are one country each.
Which means that there were „just“ folks from 11 countries, as most 
participants where from the USA and Canada.

> Am 14.07.2019 um 17:06 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> :
> 
> Dear Peggy,
> 
> If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on the 
> pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.
> 
> At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on OSI USA 
> activities.
> 
> You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
> on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in that 
> session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...
> 
> Many reports contain cross references and links.
> The whole thing is a treausure chest.
> Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a worldwide 
> group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:
>> I remember that closing circle!
>> You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
>> gatherings.
>> https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
>> The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
>> countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
>> find that information.
>> Peggy Holman
>> 206-948-0432
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
>>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
>>> became obvious to the group).
>>> 
>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
>>> numbers like:
>>> 
>>>- How many participants were we?
>>>- From approximately how many countries?
>>> 
>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>>> 
>>>- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>>>- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
>>> this year?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>>> Marai
>>> 
>>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>> 
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> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 485 resident Open Space 
> Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in German, 
> some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Michael M & dear Peggy, 
thank you for your responses and links to all the WOSonOSes.
What a richness!

And thank you, Michael M for being so thorough! 
I had browsed the proceedings and totally overlooked the participant list…

Yes indeed, a total treasure chest. Also, I am amazed how many of those topics 
could totally be posted in an OST today.

Like: 
- Coaching/mentoring with leaders of an organization before/during &after an 
OS-meeting 
- How can OS help with the integration of immigrants in our countries?  
- Where does the energy go? Post-event implementation 
…

I smiled seeing my report on the topic I posted back then. And reading the 
names of 22 great folks who joined. 
Having OST memories going back that long, I suddenly feel like an OST elder… 
That’s new!

Marai


> Am 14.07.2019 um 17:06 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> :
> 
> Dear Peggy,
> 
> If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on the 
> pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.
> 
> At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on OSI USA 
> activities.
> 
> You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
> on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in that 
> session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...
> 
> Many reports contain cross references and links.
> The whole thing is a treausure chest.
> Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a worldwide 
> group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:
>> I remember that closing circle!
>> You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
>> gatherings.
>> https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
>> The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
>> countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
>> find that information.
>> Peggy Holman
>> 206-948-0432
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
>>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
>>> became obvious to the group).
>>> 
>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
>>> numbers like:
>>> 
>>>- How many participants were we?
>>>- From approximately how many countries?
>>> 
>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>>> 
>>>- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>>>- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
>>> this year?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>>> Marai
>>> 
>>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>> 
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> mmpannw...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 485 resident Open Space 
> Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in German, 
> some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Peggy,

If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on 
the pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.


At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on 
OSI USA activities.


You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in 
that session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...


Many reports contain cross references and links.
The whole thing is a treausure chest.
Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a 
worldwide group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp


AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:

I remember that closing circle!

You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
gatherings.

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/

The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
find that information.


Peggy Holman
206-948-0432
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
wrote:



Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short 
stories book.


It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense 
making (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or 
rather: how it became obvious to the group).


I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
numbers like:


   - How many participants were we?
   - From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

   - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
   - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place 
up to this year?


Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

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Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannw...@gmail.com


Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 485 resident Open 
Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide

www.openspaceworldmap.org

At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in 
German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Peggy Holman via OSList]

I remember that closing circle! 

You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
gatherings. 
https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/

The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to find 
that information. 

Peggy Holman 
206-948-0432
Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
> book.
> 
> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
> became obvious to the group).
> 
> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
> like:
> 
>- How many participants were we?
>- From approximately how many countries?
> 
> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
> 
>- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
> this year?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele
> 
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Marai,

looking forward to your short stories!

I was not in Nova Scotia but here is the link to all WOSonOSes

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/


It seems that the first 4 were in Washington DC.
By my reckoning that means the first was in
1 - 1993
2 - 1994
3 - 1995
4 - 1996
5 - 1997 this one I rememer, it was my first one to attend, Larry and 
Birgitt invited to Toronto
6 - 1998 Monterey, I was there. Until then the gatherings were named 
OSonOS, at the Pacific we realized that the right name would be 
"Worldwide Open Space on Open Space" and some folks at that time had the 
idea to have some kind of Worldwide Open Space Institute that would be 
registered at the United Nations as a global NGO.
7 - 1999 Chicago, where Harrison simply said, lets have it in Berlin 
next year

8 - 2000 Berlin
and the rest you can see in the list up to
26 - 2018 Iceland
27 - 2019 Washingto DC (ok, that would be the 5th in DC)
28 - 2020 Berlin (that will be the third in Berlin)

Halifax has also a perfect set of proceedings, a list of all 
participants included... just looking at it its more than 100, you 
count, the countries of origin of participants are also mentioned.


hugs
mmp

Am 14.07.2019 um 13:07 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:

Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova Scotia. 
This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories book.

It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making (the 
way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it became 
obvious to the group).

I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
like:

- How many participants were we?
- From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up 
to this year?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

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Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide

www.openspaceworldmap.org

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Harrison Owen via OSList]

The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of year 
-- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that you use 
the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you will find 
the collective ruminations. 
Harrison


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From: Marai Kiele via OSList 
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Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova Scotia. 
This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories book.

It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making (the 
way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it became 
obvious to the group).

I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
like:

    - How many participants were we?
    - From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

    - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
    - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
this year?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

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