[OTlist] Nursing

2009-02-25 Thread Ron Carson
Today,  a  nurse is accompanying me on an eval. Our home health director
has asked nursing to do this so they can learn more about OT.

While  this  is a GOOD thing, it's also sort of sad that nursing doesn't
know what OT does in home health.

Ron

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Re: [OTlist] vestibular

2009-02-25 Thread Veronica
Hi Elayne, congratulations on passing your degree!
Sensory processing and treatment thereof is not strictly an OT area.  There are 
physios and speech and language therapists who have an interest in this area 
too.  There is however the need for further training before you are 'equipped' 
to work in this area.  And you are correct in saying that the 'vestibular' 
system is part of the focus of Sensory Integration/Sensory Processing Disorders.

Veronica Groenewald

Hi 
I'm also just a reader of all your emails. I've not contributed because I just 
graduated last December and about to take the NBCOT exam. So I am going to be 
brave and boldly askisn't "vestibular treatment" simply a part of treating 
sensory integration disorders (providing vestibular problems are present)? In 
my review book, deficits in modulation of vestibular input include over and 
under responsivity, sensory seeking or aversion, and gravitational insecurity. 
Are you referring to another kind of treatment? And why would a PT provide it? 
I thought that was strictly in OT's domain. 

I did one of my clinicals in the public school system and SI was most often 
used with autism, but with other psychological/psychiatric problems as well. 

Looking forward to any comments/feedback. 

Elayne V 
Nashville, TN 


  
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Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

2009-02-25 Thread Neal Luther
It would be helpful to me for those with experience to talk about the
differences in "vestibular" disorders and how you use this in an
occupational model.  Example,  BPPV vs Meniere's disease vs sensory
processing deficits. Thanks


Neal C. Luther,OTR/L
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

Ot's have been doing vestibular work since Jean Ayers (much of the basis
for
Sensory integration treatment starts at the vestibular system).
However,
with fall prevention becoming a big thing with Medicare everyone and
their
brother is becoming a vestibular specialist.  I have vertigo and went
through many local providers before I finally went to the one
recommended by
me in a course I took.  Less physcial depends on if you have aides to
help
you out.  It is a fascinating field and you would be mistaken for  PT if
you
don't know how to bring an OT perspective to the program.  Vestibular
disorders association (VEDA) has lots of great information, here on the
east
coast an OT from the Ear Clinic in Atlanta does some great trainings.
It
all depends on what age group you want to work with.

Elizabeth Thiers, OTR/L
FECTS
ehthiersfe...@earthlink.net
 

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> [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On Behalf Of d. chang
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:10 AM
> To: OTlist@otnow.com
> Subject: [OTlist] vestibular OT
> 
> Hello !!
> 
> I've been on this list for a while, but just as an owl.  I 
> love reading
> everything here.   Im learning new things from each and every 
> one of you.
> Education is just totally endless.  There are so much stuff 
> to learn.  Oh, before I go on, my name is Diana and Im in my 
> last year of OT program !!
> 
> I'm very interested in vestibular field.  A friend of mine 
> told me that the vestibular is an up and coming field for OT 
> AND its less physical demanding, which is perfect for me 
> because I have a meniere's disease and a low back pain.
> 
> Does anyone know about this particular field?
> 
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Re: [OTlist] Nursing

2009-02-25 Thread David Harraway
Hi Ron, as a former Nurse who got to "see the light" after working with 
OTs for a few years (and asking them lots of questions about the kinds 
of things they did and why they did them) I have to say I am favour of 
this kind of interdisciplinary orientation .


Moving to OT was the best career move I ever made -went from close to 
burnt out to someone who loves most days on the job.


We're sure you won't miss the chance to promote the profession Ron ; - )

David, OT
Melbourne Australia


Ron Carson wrote:

Today,  a  nurse is accompanying me on an eval. Our home health director
has asked nursing to do this so they can learn more about OT.

While  this  is a GOOD thing, it's also sort of sad that nursing doesn't
know what OT does in home health.

Ron

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Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

2009-02-25 Thread Sue Mikolajczak
A 91-year old friend who originated a low vision support group that I help
facilitate has been partially bed-ridden since falling in her home in
December.  She has been using a Depend-type underwear and requires help from
her husband to change the pant.  She is very anxious to start helping with
her toileting activities, in order to assist her husband with the burden of
her care, and to reduce the associated frustration of leaking, etc.

She is able to independently get into a reclining position in bed, but
cannot yet get out of bed without assistance.  I noticed various types of
female urinals while surfing the net and wondered if anyone has had success
with a particular design that would work for someone of her abilities.  She
is legally blind, but is cognitively as sharp as a tack.  She broke some
ribs from her fall, but I believe her manual dexterity is good for someone
of her age.  Even if she was able to use the urinal with her husband's
assistance, it might eliminate some of the negative issues attached to the
current toileting method (odor, spills, etc).

I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has had experience with these
devices.

Sue




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Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

2009-02-25 Thread Robertson, Susan (NIH/CC/RMD) [E]
You might check the Sammon Preston catalog
Sammonspreston.com

 

-Original Message-
From: Sue Mikolajczak [mailto:susanjmikol-...@twmi.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:38 PM
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

A 91-year old friend who originated a low vision support group that I
help facilitate has been partially bed-ridden since falling in her home
in December.  She has been using a Depend-type underwear and requires
help from her husband to change the pant.  She is very anxious to start
helping with her toileting activities, in order to assist her husband
with the burden of her care, and to reduce the associated frustration of
leaking, etc.

She is able to independently get into a reclining position in bed, but
cannot yet get out of bed without assistance.  I noticed various types
of female urinals while surfing the net and wondered if anyone has had
success with a particular design that would work for someone of her
abilities.  She is legally blind, but is cognitively as sharp as a tack.
She broke some ribs from her fall, but I believe her manual dexterity is
good for someone of her age.  Even if she was able to use the urinal
with her husband's assistance, it might eliminate some of the negative
issues attached to the current toileting method (odor, spills, etc).

I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has had experience with
these devices.

Sue




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Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

2009-02-25 Thread jamie thomas
Hi,
This "vestibular" stuff is interesting to me.  It seems I've gotten lots of 
continuing ed. brochures concerning "Vestibular Rehabilitation" that are put on 
by PTs.  I do use sensory integration in my practice as a school OT, but from 
what I've done and seen in practice, the vestibular activities we do under this 
frame of reference look different than what people who practice "Vestibular 
Rehab", as it is termed, do.  I was looking at a site (looks like it's written 
by a neurologist) that claims that mostly PTs do this sort of rehab, but that 
some OTs do it as well.  "Vestibular Rehab", according to this site, seems to 
involve different techniques, maneuvers and tests that I'm not familiar with, 
and seems to be directed toward definite conditions that involve balance 
issues.  For reference, here's the site 
(http://www.dizziness-and-balance.com/treatment/rehab.html#definition)
 
There seem to be slight differences in terminology that may determine what 
field the majority of practitioners come from.  There is a course put on by 
OTs, Sheila Frick & Mary Kawar called "Vestibular Habilitation From the Core", 
and I do also use this in practice via the "Astronaut Training" protocol.
 
Just my two cents...perhaps this will clarify (or confuse more ;-)) the 
question from the person who initially began this thread.
 
~Jamie 

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Neal Luther  wrote:

From: Neal Luther 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:20 AM

It would be helpful to me for those with experience to talk about the
differences in "vestibular" disorders and how you use this in an
occupational model.  Example,  BPPV vs Meniere's disease vs sensory
processing deficits. Thanks


Neal C. Luther,OTR/L
Advanced Home Care, Burlington Office
1-336-538-1194, xt 6672
neal.lut...@advhomecare.org

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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:46 PM
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

Ot's have been doing vestibular work since Jean Ayers (much of the basis
for
Sensory integration treatment starts at the vestibular system).
However,
with fall prevention becoming a big thing with Medicare everyone and
their
brother is becoming a vestibular specialist.  I have vertigo and went
through many local providers before I finally went to the one
recommended by
me in a course I took.  Less physcial depends on if you have aides to
help
you out.  It is a fascinating field and you would be mistaken for  PT if
you
don't know how to bring an OT perspective to the program.  Vestibular
disorders association (VEDA) has lots of great information, here on the
east
coast an OT from the Ear Clinic in Atlanta does some great trainings.
It
all depends on what age group you want to work with.

Elizabeth Thiers, OTR/L
FECTS
ehthiersfe...@earthlink.net
 

> -Original Message-
> From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com 
> [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On Behalf Of d. chang
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:10 AM
> To: OTlist@otnow.com
> Subject: [OTlist] vestibular OT
> 
> Hello !!
> 
> I've been on this list for a while, but just as an owl.  I 
> love reading
> everything here.   Im learning new things from each and every 
> one of you.
> Education is just totally endless.  There are so much stuff 
> to learn.  Oh, before I go on, my name is Diana and Im in my 
> last year of OT program !!
> 
> I'm very interested in vestibular field.  A friend of mine 
> told me that the vestibular is an up and coming field for OT 
> AND its less physical demanding, which is perfect for me 
> because I have a meniere's disease and a low back pain.
> 
> Does anyone know about this particular field?
> 
> diana.
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Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

2009-02-25 Thread ehthiers
I see a lot of the different types of visual, vestibular, reflex
integration, core work programs have a lot of overlap.  What's good about
the trainings though are the program specifics regarding the different
diagnosis. 

Elizabeth Thiers, OTR/L
FECTS
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> [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On Behalf Of Sue Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:05 PM
> To: otlist@otnow.com
> Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT
> 
> 
> This again is a very interesting  topic. There are many OTs 
> who are trained and work in vestiblular therapy. There are 
> many issues involved and to do it well one needs advanced 
> training but there is so much overlap with visual problems 
> etc and impacts on so many occupational areas. It also 
> involve understanding balance in a multifaceted manner.
> 
> I did a lot of work in the area in trauma with mild brain 
> injuries. We see a significant number of clients with 
> impairments after strokes.
> 
> Sue D 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: spark...@rcn.com
> > To: OTlist@OTnow.com
> > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:36:44 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT
> > 
> > Hmm. not sure but I used to babysit for a vestibular PT. He 
> once told 
> > me that OT's cannot do vestibular therapy. Not sure why or 
> even if it 
> > is accurate? I am not sure what vestibular OT would look 
> like as a treatment.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com]on
> > Behalf Of d. chang
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 00:10
> > To: OTlist@otnow.com
> > Subject: [OTlist] vestibular OT
> > 
> > 
> > Hello !!
> > 
> > I've been on this list for a while, but just as an owl.  I 
> love reading
> > everything here.   Im learning new things from each and 
> every one of you.
> > Education is just totally endless.  There are so much stuff 
> to learn.  
> > Oh, before I go on, my name is Diana and Im in my last year 
> of OT program !!
> > 
> > I'm very interested in vestibular field.  A friend of mine told me 
> > that the vestibular is an up and coming field for OT AND its less 
> > physical demanding, which is perfect for me because I have 
> a meniere's 
> > disease and a low back pain.
> > 
> > Does anyone know about this particular field?
> > 
> > diana.
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Re: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

2009-02-25 Thread Ron Carson
Hello Brent:

The  question  of  home  health  being  the  best  practice  setting  is
complicated.

In  a perfect world, I say unequivocally "yes", but in the real world, I
say  "no".  It  seems to me that in home health, like other settings, OT
has  no  TRULY  unique  and  HIGHLY  valued role. There seems to be very
little that OT does which isn't already covered by either PT, nursing or
the aide.

Ron

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- Original Message -
From: Brent Cheyne 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009
To:   OTlist@OTnow.com 
Subj: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

BC> RON:   I related so well to your well written response to Ilene (Message
BC> 4,2/21/09),  I  have  a similar history to you and worked in the SNFs in
BC> the  late  1990's,  but woe is me... I still do today. As you stated the
BC> business  model  doesn't foster the best that OT can be as a profession.
BC> It is very inflexible and stifles innovation, creativity, and quality in
BC> favor  of  effeciency,  profit,  and bureaucratic compliance to Medicare
BC> rules  and regs which set the system up to be as lame as it is. Some how
BC> I have found a way continue in this practice setting for almost 15 years
BC> and have sought out the most high quality employers and facilities with 
BC> a  bit  of  luck  had  good  results.  But  I  too am growing VERY WEARY
BC> of all the issues you so effectively stated.  I even spent one week as a
BC> Rehab  Manager  and  quit..it  made  me  physically  ill, tried o/p hand
BC> therapy  for  6months  and  was  quite  unsatisfied. I  have  thought of
BC> leaving the  SNF setting, but every now and then I get a patient or case
BC> or  two  that  goes  so  well and is so satisfying that it draws me back
BC> in...it's  like  trying  to  leave  the  Mafia :), Ron do you think home
BC> health is the best OT practice setting?


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[OTlist] Lost your job...

2009-02-25 Thread Ron Carson
Has  anyone  ever  lost  their  job  for  refusing  to practice in a way
inconsistent with your values and beliefs as an OT?

Just curious.

Thanks,

Ron


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Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

2009-02-25 Thread cmnahrwold
I am not a big fan of bed pans or urinals but I undestand how useful 
they are in "emergencies" especially at night.  I would strongly 
suggest a bed side commode for that needed out of bed activity during 
the day, and perhaps a female urinal and a standard bed pan at night.  
I have used a female urinal for a client found in the Sammons and 
Preston catelog with moderate success, but this lady was a bilateral 
above the knee amputation so it was easier to place the urinal where it 
belonged.  I imagine it will take some practice.  I remember that the 
easiest position was being completely supine versus reclined secondary 
to some spilling that occured in the reclined position.  Again, I 
strongly recommend that the patient is out of bed as much as possbile 
because the effects of bed immobility and atrophy is lethal if left 
untreated.  These pieces of adaptive equipment often becomes a crutch 
which hinders a patient's progress.


Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR

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From: Robertson, Susan (NIH/CC/RMD) [E] 
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

You might check the Sammon Preston catalog
Sammonspreston.com



-Original Message-
From: Sue Mikolajczak [mailto:susanjmikol-...@twmi.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:38 PM
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Female Urinal devices

A 91-year old friend who originated a low vision support group that I
help facilitate has been partially bed-ridden since falling in her home
in December.  She has been using a Depend-type underwear and requires
help from her husband to change the pant.  She is very anxious to start
helping with her toileting activities, in order to assist her husband
with the burden of her care, and to reduce the associated frustration of
leaking, etc.

She is able to independently get into a reclining position in bed, but
cannot yet get out of bed without assistance.  I noticed various types
of female urinals while surfing the net and wondered if anyone has had
success with a particular design that would work for someone of her
abilities.  She is legally blind, but is cognitively as sharp as a tack.
She broke some ribs from her fall, but I believe her manual dexterity is
good for someone of her age.  Even if she was able to use the urinal
with her husband's assistance, it might eliminate some of the negative
issues attached to the current toileting method (odor, spills, etc).

I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has had experience with
these devices.

Sue




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Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

2009-02-25 Thread cmnahrwold
The name of the person that I am thinking of is by the name Cohen.  
Check out OTseeker.com to review article abstracts that you may find 
interesting and then take a few abstracts to a librarian for assistance 
of finding them, perferably a hospital librarian or a university 
librarian.  Here is one abstract from Pubmed that has a few case 
studies from Cohen that use her hierachy of occupations to treat 
vestibular dysfunction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7785720   
Really interesting concept.


Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR

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From: Sue Doyle 
To: otlist@otnow.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:05 pm
Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT


This again is a very interesting  topic. There are many OTs who are 
trained and work in vestiblular therapy. There are many issues involved 
and to do it well one needs advanced training but there is so much 
overlap with visual problems etc and impacts on so many occupational 
areas. It also involve understanding balance in a multifaceted manner.


I did a lot of work in the area in trauma with mild brain injuries. We 
see a significant number of clients with impairments after strokes.


Sue D





From: spark...@rcn.com
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:36:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [OTlist] vestibular OT

Hmm. not sure but I used to babysit for a vestibular PT. He once told 

me

that OT's cannot do vestibular therapy. Not sure why or even if it is
accurate? I am not sure what vestibular OT would look like as a 

treatment.


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Behalf Of d. chang
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 00:10
To: OTlist@otnow.com
Subject: [OTlist] vestibular OT


Hello !!

I've been on this list for a while, but just as an owl.  I love 

reading
everything here.   Im learning new things from each and every one of 

you.
Education is just totally endless.  There are so much stuff to learn. 

Oh,
before I go on, my name is Diana and Im in my last year of OT program 

!!


I'm very interested in vestibular field.  A friend of mine told me 

that the
vestibular is an up and coming field for OT AND its less physical 

demanding,
which is perfect for me because I have a meniere's disease and a low 

back

pain.

Does anyone know about this particular field?

diana.
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Re: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

2009-02-25 Thread cmnahrwold

Ron,

Are you saying that PT, nursing, and nursing aides is working on 
increased independence in clients' occupations?  Or does it appear that 
they are addressing the issues by completing them for the patient?  
Perhaps it would be wise to have a tag along day with these disciplines 
to create a team approarch.  I think one of the best things a home OT 
can do is become friends with the home aides because they can help with 
the needed correct repetiion of your treatment interventions outside of 
formal therapy time.


You know Ron,  I once thought like you in regards to the perception of 
OT in the setting in which I worked "OT
has  no  TRULY  unique  and  HIGHLY  valued role", but there was a time 
in which I stopped listening to that unproductive self talk, and 
decided to put all of my efforts into the clients.  I learned a few 
things in the past five years since changing my attitude and to help to 
chage the culture of a department a) respect is dependent on the hard 
work you put into your clients b) constant continuuing education and 
inservicing to the staff has helped change perceptions c) lowering my 
ego by helping out with toileting and bowel accident clean ups instead 
of calling the nurse and "running" has helped to build a more team 
approach and provides an opportunity to share important information d) 
the better I know the nursing and therapy staff on a personal level the 


more they learn about OT.

A few months ago I had my friend and collegue Pat a nurse talk to me 
about how her opinion of OT has changed in the past few years.  She 
admitted that she never really had a clear grasp on what we did because 
she never got the opportunity to see us in action when she worked in 
home care.  But when she transitioned to the rehab unit she was 
outstounded by the the reality of what we worked on.  She regrets that 
she did not have that knowledge prior and how that could of helped many 
patients in the home therapy setting.  She told me that she once 
thought physical therapy was the "go to therapy", but now she 
understands how imperative OT is to the recovery of a client.  I now 
get constant phone calls from Pat and the other nursing staff about 
certain things they see when they are helping clients with their 
morning ADLs and how they want my advise to deal with the problems.  We 
then often work together to come up with a solution.  Looking back at 
my career so far I learned it really was not the other hospital staff 
that devalued OT but in reality it was I whom came to hate what I was 
doing because my focus and passion was on myself and not on the client.


Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR

-Original Message-
From: Ron Carson 
To: Brent Cheyne 
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: [OTlist] hello c
ompany...it's misery calling!

Hello Brent:

The  question  of  home  health  being  the  best  practice  setting  is
complicated.

In  a perfect world, I say unequivocally "yes", but in the real world, I
say  "no".  It  seems to me that in home health, like other settings, OT
has  no  TRULY  unique  and  HIGHLY  valued role. There seems to be very
little that OT does which isn't already covered by either PT, nursing or
the aide.

Ron

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Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com

- Original Message -
From: Brent Cheyne 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009
To:   OTlist@OTnow.com 
Subj: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

BC> RON:   I related so well to your well written response to Ilene 
(Message
BC> 4,2/21/09),  I  have  a similar history to you and worked in the 
SNFs in
BC> the  late  1990's,  but woe is me... I still do today. As you 
stated the
BC> business  model  doesn't foster the best that OT can be as a 
profession.
BC> It is very inflexible and stifles innovation, creativity, and 
quality in
BC> favor  of  effeciency,  profit,  and bureaucratic compliance to 
Medicare
BC> rules  and regs which set the system up to be as lame as it is. 
Some how
BC> I have found a way continue in this practice setting for almost 15 
years

BC> and have sought out the most high quality employe
rs and 
facilities with 
BC> a  bit  of  luck  had  good  results.  But  I  too am 
growing VERY WEARY
BC> of all the issues you so effectively stated.  I even spent one week 
as a
BC> Rehab  Manager  and  quit..it  made  me  physically  ill, tried o/p 
hand
BC> therapy  for  6months  and  was  quite  unsatisfied. I  have  
thought of
BC> leaving the  SNF setting, but every now and then I get a patient or 
case
BC> or  two  that  goes  so  well and is so satisfying that it draws me 
back
BC> in...it's  like  trying  to  leave  the  Mafia :), Ron do you think 
home

BC> health is the best OT practice setting?


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