Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4
Quite a few years back the Univ. of Penn. did a personality study on the difference between OT and PT types--it was interesting, PT 's tended to be more rigid in their thinking and wanted recipes for treatment and follow procedures--OT's were less tied to routine and found it harder to be restricted by routines and were more creative. In general, I have found that to be true, nice folks those PT's just different, it is not a slur against anyone, for example who would want to say that salt is better than pepper not the same just as good for different things just simply different--go for it Ron! Susan Susan Orloff, OTR/L CEO/Executive Director Children's Special Services, LLC 7501 Auden Trail Atlanta, GA 30350 770-394-9791 www.childrens-services.com sorloff...@aol.com On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Ron Carson wrote: At times like this I feel compelled to explain that I any anti- PT comment that I make is NOT about any specific PT. Heck, I have a good PT friend on this list and he's a great guy! I've worked with super nice PT's. So, if I say anything negative (or positive) about PT, it's a broad general statement about the profession of PT, not an individual practitioner. Thanks Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT www.OTnow.com - Original Message - From: ocil...@comcast.net ocil...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 To: otlist@otnow.com otlist@otnow.com Subj: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 ocn (not the PT threat thing though, I only work with 1 PT and she is ocn wonderful) -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com Susan Orloff, OTR/L CEO/Executive Director Children's Special Services, LLC 7501 Auden Trail Atlanta, GA 30350 770-394-9791 www.childrens-services.com sorloff...@aol.com -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4
Susan, thanks for the insight into that study. When I was an undergrad and I was deciding between professions, I chose OT because I felt at first glance I would be less restricted in my treatment approach. Also, I felt that I was a creative kind of guy and would love a health career that allowed me to use my creativity. Arley Johnson MS, OTR/L Site Manager, Rehabilitation Services, Pennsylvania Hospital Good Shepherd Penn Partners O: 215.829.5018 P: 215.422.0174 C: 215.776.4305 -Original Message- From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On Behalf Of Susan Orloff Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subject: Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 Quite a few years back the Univ. of Penn. did a personality study on the difference between OT and PT types--it was interesting, PT 's tended to be more rigid in their thinking and wanted recipes for treatment and follow procedures--OT's were less tied to routine and found it harder to be restricted by routines and were more creative. In general, I have found that to be true, nice folks those PT's just different, it is not a slur against anyone, for example who would want to say that salt is better than pepper not the same just as good for different things just simply different--go for it Ron! Susan Susan Orloff, OTR/L CEO/Executive Director Children's Special Services, LLC 7501 Auden Trail Atlanta, GA 30350 770-394-9791 www.childrens-services.com sorloff...@aol.com On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Ron Carson wrote: At times like this I feel compelled to explain that I any anti- PT comment that I make is NOT about any specific PT. Heck, I have a good PT friend on this list and he's a great guy! I've worked with super nice PT's. So, if I say anything negative (or positive) about PT, it's a broad general statement about the profession of PT, not an individual practitioner. Thanks Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT www.OTnow.com - Original Message - From: ocil...@comcast.net ocil...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 To: otlist@otnow.com otlist@otnow.com Subj: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 ocn (not the PT threat thing though, I only work with 1 PT and she is ocn wonderful) -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com Susan Orloff, OTR/L CEO/Executive Director Children's Special Services, LLC 7501 Auden Trail Atlanta, GA 30350 770-394-9791 www.childrens-services.com sorloff...@aol.com -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:52:49 + (UTC) From: bbh1...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OTlist] Puposeful activity To: OTlist@OTnow.com Message-ID: 779914147.963901235235169749.javamail.r...@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net Hi Barb, I'm glad it helped. No, you are definitely not the only one, there are many of us, and while I do think Ron is right about many of the things he answered (not the PT threat thing though, I only work with 1 PT and she is wonderful), I too get frustrated with the change jobs answer. I too feel I contribute to my residents in therapy. I do wish though that someone would teach a course on bringing function back in today's settings. Is it just me, or does anyone else feel that 90% (at least) of all adult-based treatment courses with OT as the intended audience, are medical model? Ron, I will look into that book, thanks. I think, regarding your MD patient, that as another poster said, PT is more valued because most people feel is they just get stronger everything else will be fine. I had a parkinson's patient once in subacute rehab who could not feed himself, yet refused OT. ALL he wanted to do, all he cared about was walking, and felt the what do you want to walk TO, and what do you want to DO there part would come automatically. I also once had a woman with cognitive declines so severe she could not make a cup of tea or dial 911 on a phone...yet conversationally you'd never know she had a problem, it only came into play with motor tasks involving planning, sequencing, multiple steps. I documented like crazy, yet once she was walking 200 feet independently, her HMO sent her home alone from rehab. I went to her care conference and despite my reports to her family and the Dr., she was deemed fine to go home. All I could do was write a HUGE cover-my-butt progress note in the chart saying I didn't agree with the DC plan and that I told everyone concerned. This mindset that if you can walk, you're fine, seems almost systemic, and although I wish it would change, I don't hold out a huge amount of hope! ~Ilene Rosenthal, OTR/L Hello Ilene, Your post was satisfying to me, as I work in the same setting and am faced with the same concerns re tx.? Put my reaction down to misery loves company, although I am not miserable in my position.? What I do with patients may not be strictly OT as defined by most of those who contribute to this site, but I have made peace with that because I know that I am definitely helping my patients heal and return to a higher level of function in their daily lives.? I, too, have been asking for more concrete suggestions as to how this is done in the SNF/subacute world which is so focussed on profit.? Thanks for sharing a similar concern.? It is so easy to feel alone, and not good enough with regard to the cones and pegs controversy! Barb Howard COTA -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
