[OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars

2009-07-14 Thread Sue
I work in home health and I cringe every time I see one of those suction cup 
grab bars in a shower area.  I will not instruct patients on transfers using 
the suction cup grab bars.  I feel they are risky.  I have seen them 
slide along the wall; I have pulled on them and some have come off the wall.  I 
tell my patients that I only recommend professionally installed grab bars and 
if they are not willing to follow my recommendations, then I recommend sponge 
bathing and document as such.
 
Susan

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, lucy payne  wrote:


From: lucy payne 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
To: otlist@otnow.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 3:18 AM



Re: suction grab rails



When I worked in the community here in England we did not recommend the suction 
cup grab rails as there were too many risks such as they could be re-positioned 
in such a way as to cause more of a hinderance than a help and that they will 
not take as much pressure/pull/push as a permanent grab rail. 



Regards 

Lucy

> To: OTlist@OTnow.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:20:57 -0400
> From: cmnahrw...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
> 
> In this case I would practice both a walk in shower and bathtub shower 
> combo transfers. I am sure he will have either or. When the apartment 
> is finalized, schedule a home evaluation and make sure your 
> recommendations are well known and documented. Sounds like he will 
> need a heavy duty shower chair or a heavy duty transfer tub bench, 
> professionally installed grab bars, hand held shower, non slip 
> stickers, long handled bath sponge.
> 
> That reminds me of a question that I had this morning. Has anyone had 
> any luck with suction cup grab bars. I work in acute rehab and 
> patients often want to order them for home, but I do not get to follow 
> up with them after their DC to determine if they actually work. I 
> think this may be a good question for the home heatlh OTs. I read in 
> consumer reports that the person should not put significant weight 
> through them, and to only use them for balance. I am wondering if I 
> should recommend them at all
> 
> 
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Re: [OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars

2009-07-14 Thread cmnahrwold
Very good to know.  Thanks Susan.  Do you give them any information 
about "professionally installed grab bars", like a list of these 
professionals?  Or do you refer them to the yellow pages?  Hard to know 
who is trustworthy.


-Original Message-
From: Sue 
To: otlist@otnow.com; OTlist@OTnow.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:00 am
Subject: [OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars

I work in home health and I cringe every time I see one of those 
suction cup grab bars in a shower area.  I will not instruct patients 
on transfers using the suction cup grab bars.  I feel they are risky.  
I have seen them slide along the wall; I have pulled on them and some 
have come off the wall.  I tell my patients that I only recommend 
professionally installed grab bars and if they are not willing to 
follow my recommendations, then I recommend sponge bathing and document 
as such.

 
Susan

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, lucy payne  wrote:


From: lucy payne 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
To: otlist@otnow.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 3:18 AM



Re: suction grab rails



When I worked in the community here in England we did not recommend the 
suction cup grab rails as there were too many risks such as they could 
be re-positioned in such a way as to cause more of a hinderance than=2
0a 
help and that they will not take as much pressure/pull/push as a 
permanent grab rail.




Regards

Lucy


To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:20:57 -0400
From: cmnahrw...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE

In this case I would practice both a walk in shower and bathtub 

shower

combo transfers. I am sure he will have either or. When the apartment
is finalized, schedule a home evaluation and make sure your
recommendations are well known and documented. Sounds like he will
need a heavy duty shower chair or a heavy duty transfer tub bench,
professionally installed grab bars, hand held shower, non slip
stickers, long handled bath sponge.

That reminds me of a question that I had this morning. Has anyone had
any luck with suction cup grab bars. I work in acute rehab and
patients often want to order them for home, but I do not get to 

follow

up with them after their DC to determine if they actually work. I
think this may be a good question for the home heatlh OTs. I read in
consumer reports that the person should not put significant weight
through them, and to only use them for balance. I am wondering if I
should recommend them at all



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Re: [OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars

2009-07-14 Thread Sue
I provide a list of trusted professionals who have worked with us for over 10 
years; but I always tell them that they are free to use whomever they want to 
use.  If they say they "know someone," I then write down the important 
considerations, such as installing into studs of wall, type of bars I prefer 
for their particular situation, etc., and I will mark in pencil the approximate 
height and location of where I want the bar(s) to go.   
 
Susan

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, cmnahrw...@aol.com  wrote:


From: cmnahrw...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:36 PM


Very good to know.  Thanks Susan.  Do you give them any information about 
"professionally installed grab bars", like a list of these professionals?  Or 
do you refer them to the yellow pages?  Hard to know who is trustworthy.

-Original Message-
From: Sue 
To: otlist@otnow.com; OTlist@OTnow.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:00 am
Subject: [OTlist] Suction-cupped grab bars

I work in home health and I cringe every time I see one of those suction cup 
grab bars in a shower area.  I will not instruct patients on transfers using 
the suction cup grab bars.  I feel they are risky.  I have seen them 
slide along the wall; I have pulled on them and some have come off the wall.  I 
tell my patients that I only recommend professionally installed grab bars and 
if they are not willing to follow my recommendations, then I recommend sponge 
bathing and document as such.
 
Susan

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, lucy payne  wrote:


From: lucy payne 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
To: otlist@otnow.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 3:18 AM



Re: suction grab rails



When I worked in the community here in England we did not recommend the suction 
cup grab rails as there were too many risks such as they could be re-positioned 
in such a way as to cause more of a hinderance than=2
0a help and that they will not take as much pressure/pull/push as a permanent 
grab rail.



Regards

Lucy

> To: OTlist@OTnow.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:20:57 -0400
> From: cmnahrw...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
> 
> In this case I would practice both a walk in shower and bathtub 
shower
> combo transfers. I am sure he will have either or. When the apartment
> is finalized, schedule a home evaluation and make sure your
> recommendations are well known and documented. Sounds like he will
> need a heavy duty shower chair or a heavy duty transfer tub bench,
> professionally installed grab bars, hand held shower, non slip
> stickers, long handled bath sponge.
> 
> That reminds me of a question that I had this morning. Has anyone had
> any luck with suction cup grab bars. I work in acute rehab and
> patients often want to order them for home, but I do not get to 
follow
> up with them after their DC to determine if they actually work. I
> think this may be a good question for the home heatlh OTs. I read in
> consumer reports that the person should not put significant weight
> through them, and to only use them for balance. I am wondering if I
> should recommend them at all
> 
> 
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