[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Frank Dissinger]

Hi Franz-Josef,


Thank you for your reply.

The problem is that I do not want create any duplicates at all. All I 
want is inject additional information into a topic.



Regards,

Frank



Am 29.03.2023 um 07:44 schrieb Franz-Josef Knelangen:


Frank:

>> I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not create the desired result as 
duplicates of every reused topic are created. This is not what I want 
and it messes up many topic references. Can I set up branch filtering 
differently so that no topic duplicates are created? Probably not...


I use a generated prefix to realize duplicates. The affected topics 
all start with an underscore, _topic-name.dita, so that the generated 
topics look like


  * bahn_topic-name.html
  * strasse_topic-name.html

Greetings

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Re: [oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Franz-Josef Knelangen]

Frank:



>> I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not create 
>> the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are created. This is 
>> not what I want and it messes up many topic references. Can I set up branch 
>> filtering differently so that no topic duplicates are created? Probably 
>> not...

I use a generated prefix to realize duplicates. The affected topics all start 
with an underscore, _topic-name.dita, so that the generated topics look like


 *   bahn_topic-name.html
 *   strasse_topic-name.html

Greetings
Franz-Josef




bahn







strasse






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Leiter Dokumentation


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Xing | 
LinkedIn | 
YouTube

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Re: [oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)]

Hello Frank,


Please see some answers below:


If the pushed content is not shown in the Oxygen Editor, then the 
feature is not really useful for me. I need to see it to have control 
over what I am doing.


As I said, Oxygen does not show the push in place where the content is 
pushed.



The conref-push content does not appear in CHM output either. Perhaps 
this has to do with the fact that I still use oXygen V21.1 to generate 
CHM output. (I made some XSL customizations which are not easy for me 
to apply to V25, a bit difficult and lengthy to explain...).


I do not know about that, if plain DITA to HTML5 in Oxygen 25.1 output 
shows the push, then the publishing works. If not, probably the way in 
which you attempt to push might be incorrect, if you send us a sample 
project we can look into this further.



It appears much simpler for me to filter the contents out. But owing 
to the way my process is set up, I would need to apply a second 
ditaval file.



Can I specify two ditaval files for the "args.filter" argument? This 
would be the best.



Yes:

https://www.dita-ot.org/dev/parameters/parameters-base.html#base__args.filter



I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not 
create the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are 
created. This is not what I want and it messes up many topic 
references. Can I set up branch filtering differently so that no topic 
duplicates are created? Probably not...



Once you choose using branch filtering you need to use also key scopes, 
use only  keyrefs and conkeyrefs. So yes you should probably avoid this 
if you have other choices.



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
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On 3/28/23 15:18, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi Radu,


Thank you for the link. Hm...


If the pushed content is not shown in the Oxygen Editor, then the 
feature is not really useful for me. I need to see it to have control 
over what I am doing.



The conref-push content does not appear in CHM output either. Perhaps 
this has to do with the fact that I still use oXygen V21.1 to generate 
CHM output. (I made some XSL customizations which are not easy for me 
to apply to V25, a bit difficult and lengthy to explain...).



It appears much simpler for me to filter the contents out. But owing 
to the way my process is set up, I would need to apply a second 
ditaval file.



Can I specify two ditaval files for the "args.filter" argument? This 
would be the best.



And I would need a second attribute in addition to "product", 
otherwise I would have to edit each and every element that uses a 
"product" attribute. There are not so many attributes available. 
Perhaps I could (mis)use "platform"... (for indicating the project).



I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not 
create the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are 
created. This is not what I want and it messes up many topic 
references. Can I set up branch filtering differently so that no topic 
duplicates are created? Probably not...



The reason is that my ditaval files contain conditions for creating 
variants (oem1, oem2, etc. -- no condition stands for the base 
product) of a product group (project1, project 2). The same ditaval 
conditions (oem1, oem2, etc.) are used across different product 
groups. It never occurred to me to filter on product groups (projects) 
because I use root ditamaps stored in different folders to create 
output for different product groups.



Regards,

Frank



Am 27.03.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu):


Hi Frank,


Maybe this will help:

https://blog.oxygenxml.com/presentation-reuse/conref_push.html


One remark, Oxygen will not show the pushed content in place but 
publishing should work.



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 3/27/23 18:05, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi all,


I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot 
get it to work.



I want to inject a  element into a shared topic which is 
used in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a 
warehouse topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element 
only when project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to 
the warehouse topic resolves to a different file which doese not 
include the element. So what I hope is that the element is only 
injected when I build project 1 and that it is left out when I build 
project 2 -- without any error or warning generated in the log file 
or in Oxygen's editor window.



However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it 
is shown as an empty  struture. In a previous attempt the 
element was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I 
can't remember what I did differently...



I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone 
enlighten me? Thank you.



Regards,

Frank


The dita code:

*
*

*file.dita*

    
 

[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Frank Dissinger]

Hi Radu,


Thank you for the link. Hm...


If the pushed content is not shown in the Oxygen Editor, then the 
feature is not really useful for me. I need to see it to have control 
over what I am doing.



The conref-push content does not appear in CHM output either. Perhaps 
this has to do with the fact that I still use oXygen V21.1 to generate 
CHM output. (I made some XSL customizations which are not easy for me to 
apply to V25, a bit difficult and lengthy to explain...).



It appears much simpler for me to filter the contents out. But owing to 
the way my process is set up, I would need to apply a second ditaval file.



Can I specify two ditaval files for the "args.filter" argument? This 
would be the best.



And I would need a second attribute in addition to "product", otherwise 
I would have to edit each and every element that uses a "product" 
attribute. There are not so many attributes available. Perhaps I could 
(mis)use "platform"... (for indicating the project).



I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not 
create the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are 
created. This is not what I want and it messes up many topic references. 
Can I set up branch filtering differently so that no topic duplicates 
are created? Probably not...



The reason is that my ditaval files contain conditions for creating 
variants (oem1, oem2, etc. -- no condition stands for the base product) 
of a product group (project1, project 2). The same ditaval conditions 
(oem1, oem2, etc.) are used across different product groups. It never 
occurred to me to filter on product groups (projects) because I use root 
ditamaps stored in different folders to create output for different 
product groups.



Regards,

Frank



Am 27.03.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu):


Hi Frank,


Maybe this will help:

https://blog.oxygenxml.com/presentation-reuse/conref_push.html


One remark, Oxygen will not show the pushed content in place but 
publishing should work.



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 3/27/23 18:05, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi all,


I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot 
get it to work.



I want to inject a  element into a shared topic which is 
used in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a 
warehouse topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element 
only when project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to the 
warehouse topic resolves to a different file which doese not include 
the element. So what I hope is that the element is only injected when 
I build project 1 and that it is left out when I build project 2 -- 
without any error or warning generated in the log file or in Oxygen's 
editor window.



However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it is 
shown as an empty  struture. In a previous attempt the element 
was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I can't 
remember what I did differently...



I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone 
enlighten me? Thank you.



Regards,

Frank


The dita code:

*
*

*file.dita*

    
  
  
    
  
    
    
  A term. The term in lib_ref.dita should be injected 
after that.

  
    Explanation
  
    


*lib_ref.dita
*

  
    
  The term to inject after the term in file.dita
  
    Explanation
  
    
  


*variables.ditamap*
    

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Re: [oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)]

Hi Frank,


Maybe this will help:

https://blog.oxygenxml.com/presentation-reuse/conref_push.html


One remark, Oxygen will not show the pushed content in place but 
publishing should work.



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 3/27/23 18:05, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi all,


I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot 
get it to work.



I want to inject a  element into a shared topic which is used 
in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a warehouse 
topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element only when 
project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to the warehouse 
topic resolves to a different file which doese not include the 
element. So what I hope is that the element is only injected when I 
build project 1 and that it is left out when I build project 2 -- 
without any error or warning generated in the log file or in Oxygen's 
editor window.



However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it is 
shown as an empty  struture. In a previous attempt the element 
was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I can't 
remember what I did differently...



I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone enlighten 
me? Thank you.



Regards,

Frank


The dita code:

*
*

*file.dita*

    
  
  
    
  
    
    
  A term. The term in lib_ref.dita should be injected 
after that.

  
    Explanation
  
    


*lib_ref.dita
*

  
    
  The term to inject after the term in file.dita
  
    Explanation
  
    
  


*variables.ditamap*
    

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[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter

[Frank Dissinger]

Hi all,


I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot get 
it to work.



I want to inject a  element into a shared topic which is used 
in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a warehouse 
topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element only when 
project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to the warehouse 
topic resolves to a different file which doese not include the element. 
So what I hope is that the element is only injected when I build project 
1 and that it is left out when I build project 2 -- without any error or 
warning generated in the log file or in Oxygen's editor window.



However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it is 
shown as an empty  struture. In a previous attempt the element 
was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I can't 
remember what I did differently...



I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone enlighten 
me? Thank you.



Regards,

Frank


The dita code:

*
*

*file.dita*

    
  
  
    
  
    
    
  A term. The term in lib_ref.dita should be injected after 
that.

  
    Explanation
  
    


*lib_ref.dita
*

  
    
  The term to inject after the term in file.dita
  
    Explanation
  
    
  


*variables.ditamap*
    

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