RE: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface?
Maybe MS should hire Apple's gui designers as consultants..so we agree its has issues From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Clark Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 3:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface? I found it very confusing after first swapping to it from IIS 6. Having had time to adjust, I think it's a pretty good representation of a complex system. It's certainly easier to find the settings that were quite esoteric/hidden away in previous managers. The one thing I don't like is the swapping between site content/site features via tabs in the main panel... my brain just doesn't grok it. Personal preference though, I'm sure! On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote: Intuitive spring to mind! Is your http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx website being IntelliXperienced? regards Anthony (*12QWERNB*) Is your website being IntelliXperienced?
Re: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface?
On 9 July 2010 16:10, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote: Maybe MS should hire Apple’s gui designers as consultants..so we agree its has issues Hell no. The only good user interface to come out of Apple is the iPhone. My wife has a Mac and it is torture to use compared to Windows. I don't know where people get off saying Macs are easy to use but I find MacOSX terrible. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface?
Is there a GUI interface for Apache? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 2:11 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface? Maybe MS should hire Apple's gui designers as consultants..so we agree its has issues From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Clark Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 3:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Is it me..or is IIS 7 manager a crap interface? I found it very confusing after first swapping to it from IIS 6. Having had time to adjust, I think it's a pretty good representation of a complex system. It's certainly easier to find the settings that were quite esoteric/hidden away in previous managers. The one thing I don't like is the swapping between site content/site features via tabs in the main panel... my brain just doesn't grok it. Personal preference though, I'm sure! On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote: Intuitive spring to mind! Is your website being IntelliXperienced?http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx regards Anthony (*12QWERNB*) Is your website being IntelliXperienced?
[OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/conroy-backs-down-on-net-filters-20100709-10381.html Election year anyone? -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
Maybe they do it like a drawn group in the world cup. If all 4 teams draw, then a coin is flipped to decide who proceeds and who doesn't. :) -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 4:38 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter Election year anyone? I was disappointed several years ago to learn that it's illegal to tell people not to vote, and perhaps also to tell them to vote for the donkey or to write your opinion of politicians on the ballot paper instead of ticking the little boxes. I remember some TV host dipstick comedian girlie made comments in this area, and on the following weeks show they had to make an apology for what she said and explain the conundrum. Although I don't think it's illegal to actually vote for the donkey or write a poem on the ballot paper, because thanks to the anonymous system we have they can't track the offender. I also think it's not illegal to be not registered to vote. I still have this dream of watching election night and the big tally boards behind the presenters start racking up the numbers ... 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.001% 0% 0.0023% 0% etc. I wonder if the Australian constitution could deal with such a situation where almost no one made a valid vote. Any legal experts in here? I know we have at least one who writes software as well. Greg
RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delaysInternet Filter
Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert Langer (decades ago, in Victoria), but he was gaoled for a short time for infringing the electoral act by forming a political party called Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee which encouraged people not to vote. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 4:38 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delaysInternet Filter Election year anyone? I was disappointed several years ago to learn that it's illegal to tell people not to vote, and perhaps also to tell them to vote for the donkey or to write your opinion of politicians on the ballot paper instead of ticking the little boxes.
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
Greg Keogh wrote: I was disappointed several years ago to learn that it's illegal to tell people not to vote, and perhaps also to tell them to vote for the donkey or to write your opinion of politicians on the ballot paper instead of ticking the little boxes. I remember some TV host dipstick comedian girlie made comments in this area, and on the following weeks show they had to make an apology for what she said and explain the conundrum. Although I don't think it's illegal to actually vote for the donkey or write a poem on the ballot paper, because thanks to the anonymous system we have they can't track the offender. I also think it's not illegal to be not registered to vote. I still have this dream of watching election night and the big tally boards behind the presenters start racking up the numbers ... 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.001% 0% 0.0023% 0% etc. I wonder if the Australian constitution could deal with such a situation where almost no one made a valid vote. Any legal experts in here? I know we have at least one who writes software as well. Greg I'm certainly not an expert (although, I am an avid watcher of Judge Judy), but a quick look at the constitution seems to show nothing particular about individual voters. Check http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/comlaw.nsf/440c19285821b109ca256f3a001d59b7/57dea3835d797364ca256f9d0078c087/$FILE/ConstitutionAct.pdf Taking a quick look around, it appears we are forced to vote via the Commonwealth Electoral Act (1918), and I believe there are also state acts for state elections (I could be wrong, but I received a fine from the VEC once, and I recall it been a state act). On Federal elections, some info from http://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/backgrounders/files/2010-eb-compulsory-voting.pdf In 1911, the former Act was amended to make enrolment compulsory. In 1924, to increase voter turnout and reduce party campaign expenditure, the Act was amended to make voting at federal elections compulsory. Somewhere on the site it says $20 for federal elections, and from memory, it is $50 for the Victorian state elections, or it might be 0.5 penalty units. I am not sure. I am pretty sure that it is illegal to donkey vote, but the nature of anonymous voting makes it unenforceable (until they bring in CSI: Ballot sheets to do DNA matching/etc or not) I agree with you that voting shouldn't be compulsory, but I think because it is, we should add a box that says They are all inferior choices. I am pretty sure that box would win. Anyway, that's enough from me, have a good weekend everyone :P -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays InternetFilter
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Les That is Conway - many/most ALP federal members vehemently disagree with his stance. The fact that they privately or even individually disagree is irrelevant when the caucus that they are a part of supports the policy. As long as caucus supports it then it is effectively an ALP policy. Political Rant It's just one of the examples of this government continually refusing to listen to what the people want. I have always voted for Labour as I naively believed that their platform (which I prefer over the Liberal view of the world) would dictate their policy. Unfortunately it doesn't, so this will be the first election in more than 20 years that they will not be getting my vote. /Political Rant Happy Friday everyone. :) Dave Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
On 9 July 2010 19:07, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: Anyway, that's enough from me, have a good weekend everyone :P I'm fairly sure this thread will chug along quite strongly over the weekend. :) -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
Greetings, I remember a recent election with 20+ candidates on the ballot paper. The way one is supposed to vote, as shown on the how-to-vote cards, is to select your most favoured candidate and place a 1 against his/her name, then a 2 on the next favoured and so on until you run out of numbers. I so detested the list of candidates that I voted in reverse order, counting down in order of least distaste. Says a lot for what was on offer. I don't think that, in 35 years of voting, I ever voted for a candidate who actually won. I consider myself disenfranchised and unrepresented. Sad... really. -- Regards, noonie On 9 July 2010 19:07, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: Greg Keogh wrote: I was disappointed several years ago to learn that it's illegal to tell people not to vote, and perhaps also to tell them to vote for the donkey or to write your opinion of politicians on the ballot paper instead of ticking the little boxes. I remember some TV host dipstick comedian girlie made comments in this area, and on the following weeks show they had to make an apology for what she said and explain the conundrum. Although I don't think it's illegal to actually vote for the donkey or write a poem on the ballot paper, because thanks to the anonymous system we have they can't track the offender. I also think it's not illegal to be not registered to vote. I still have this dream of watching election night and the big tally boards behind the presenters start racking up the numbers ... 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.001% 0% 0.0023% 0% etc. I wonder if the Australian constitution could deal with such a situation where almost no one made a valid vote. Any legal experts in here? I know we have at least one who writes software as well. Greg I'm certainly not an expert (although, I am an avid watcher of Judge Judy), but a quick look at the constitution seems to show nothing particular about individual voters. Check http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/comlaw.nsf/440c19285821b109ca256f3a001d59b7/57dea3835d797364ca256f9d0078c087/$FILE/ConstitutionAct.pdf Taking a quick look around, it appears we are forced to vote via the Commonwealth Electoral Act (1918), and I believe there are also state acts for state elections (I could be wrong, but I received a fine from the VEC once, and I recall it been a state act). On Federal elections, some info from http://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/backgrounders/files/2010-eb-compulsory-voting.pdf In 1911, the former Act was amended to make enrolment compulsory. In 1924, to increase voter turnout and reduce party campaign expenditure, the Act was amended to make voting at federal elections compulsory. Somewhere on the site it says $20 for federal elections, and from memory, it is $50 for the Victorian state elections, or it might be 0.5 penalty units. I am not sure. I am pretty sure that it is illegal to donkey vote, but the nature of anonymous voting makes it unenforceable (until they bring in CSI: Ballot sheets to do DNA matching/etc or not) I agree with you that voting shouldn't be compulsory, but I think because it is, we should add a box that says They are all inferior choices. I am pretty sure that box would win. Anyway, that's enough from me, have a good weekend everyone :P -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
*I agree with you that voting shouldn't be compulsory* This is the reason we have one of the best systems in the world, people here are more aware, thus make better choices, sometimes they get fooled, as we have seen with this labour government. But still, to require your citizens to give up a hour or so every few years is not such a big request, if it means we are governed better. *Political Rant* *It's just one of the examples of this government continually refusing to listen to what the people want. I have always voted for Labour as I naively believed that their platform (which I prefer over the Liberal view of the world) would dictate their policy. Unfortunately it doesn't, so this will be the first election in more than 20 years that they will not be getting my vote.* */Political Rant* well I hope you realise now, the labour party are not about policy, if you look back in this last term, you will notice a regular paten, this is the liberals made suggestions, labour party slagged them off, said how stupid it was, then a week to two later would implement a rebranded version of this policy I hope you realise the labour party are about winning, regardless the cost to the Australian public, Rudd claimed to be a finical conservative, the first chance he got, he GAVE AWAY all the money we had in the bank, to try buy votes, then borrow truly unbelievable amounts of money to GIVE AWAY more things to BUY VOTES, stuffed it up, wasted Billions of dollars I also hope people listen to the language Rudd and now also Gillard use, they are dictator style leaders, Gillard is already a disaster, why labour kill off Rudd for her I'll never know, well actually I do know, they believed they had a better chance keeping their jobs, Gillard wanted make history, Swan wanted to be one step closer to the top job... Swan would be praying Gillard stuffs it up, because he's next inline Gillard, she is responsible for the BIGGEST Financial disaster by a government in my life time, she is responsible for all the policies that Rudd tried to implement, just as much as Rudd and Swan are, now they expect us to believe she is going to be different somehow I am Liberal, because there view is, I earn my money, I should decide how I spend it, I should not have to pay for things I DON'T want Labour, believe they know better than I do what is good for me, therefore they believe they should take as much as possible of my money and then decide how they will spend it for me... aka communists there is a reason the liberals have ruled this country for 2/3's of the last century, it's because the labour party is crap, and this current labour party are worse than any I have seen before in my life time P.s. I did not start this topic, so I don't want any crap for my political rant, like I have recived before On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:36 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: On 9 July 2010 19:07, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: Anyway, that's enough from me, have a good weekend everyone :P I'm fairly sure this thread will chug along quite strongly over the weekend. :) -- David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
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Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
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Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
On 9 July 2010 20:27, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I remember a recent election with 20+ candidates on the ballot paper. The way one is supposed to vote, as shown on the how-to-vote cards, is to select your most favoured candidate and place a 1 against his/her name, then a 2 on the next favoured and so on until you run out of numbers. I so detested the list of candidates that I voted in reverse order, counting down in order of least distaste. Says a lot for what was on offer. I don't think that, in 35 years of voting, I ever voted for a candidate who actually won. I consider myself disenfranchised and unrepresented. Thought that was just me, I always countdown vote. I suspect your vote ends up being for labor or liberal when the preferences are counted. You used to be able to get around that, by voting 1 2 2 2 2 - but I believe that is informal now. Sad... really. -- Regards, noonie On 9 July 2010 19:07, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: Greg Keogh wrote: I was disappointed several years ago to learn that it's illegal to tell people not to vote, and perhaps also to tell them to vote for the donkey or to write your opinion of politicians on the ballot paper instead of ticking the little boxes. I remember some TV host dipstick comedian girlie made comments in this area, and on the following weeks show they had to make an apology for what she said and explain the conundrum. Although I don't think it's illegal to actually vote for the donkey or write a poem on the ballot paper, because thanks to the anonymous system we have they can't track the offender. I also think it's not illegal to be not registered to vote. I still have this dream of watching election night and the big tally boards behind the presenters start racking up the numbers ... 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.001% 0% 0.0023% 0% etc. I wonder if the Australian constitution could deal with such a situation where almost no one made a valid vote. Any legal experts in here? I know we have at least one who writes software as well. Greg I'm certainly not an expert (although, I am an avid watcher of Judge Judy), but a quick look at the constitution seems to show nothing particular about individual voters. Check http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/comlaw.nsf/440c19285821b109ca256f3a001d59b7/57dea3835d797364ca256f9d0078c087/$FILE/ConstitutionAct.pdf Taking a quick look around, it appears we are forced to vote via the Commonwealth Electoral Act (1918), and I believe there are also state acts for state elections (I could be wrong, but I received a fine from the VEC once, and I recall it been a state act). On Federal elections, some info from http://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/backgrounders/files/2010-eb-compulsory-voting.pdf In 1911, the former Act was amended to make enrolment compulsory. In 1924, to increase voter turnout and reduce party campaign expenditure, the Act was amended to make voting at federal elections compulsory. Somewhere on the site it says $20 for federal elections, and from memory, it is $50 for the Victorian state elections, or it might be 0.5 penalty units. I am not sure. I am pretty sure that it is illegal to donkey vote, but the nature of anonymous voting makes it unenforceable (until they bring in CSI: Ballot sheets to do DNA matching/etc or not) I agree with you that voting shouldn't be compulsory, but I think because it is, we should add a box that says They are all inferior choices. I am pretty sure that box would win. Anyway, that's enough from me, have a good weekend everyone :P -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once again delays Internet Filter
On 9 July 2010 20:43, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote: Gillard. more Spin than Rudd I just hope the Australian public realise it before the election, this labour party has done alot of damage in 2.5 years, we don't need 3 more years of it Not trying to be too political, but looked at certain ways, both parties have. -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter
All that debt incurred was income someone else earned, and which be invested, and used to pay back the government (in higher taxes) down the track. Spending money doesn't just make it disappear somewhere - every dollar spent is someone else's dollar earned. Debt itself isn't a problem - just ensuring that over the course of an economic cycle, the government doesn't spend beyond its means is important. Anyway, this is veering way off topic, but since you've brought this up on more than one occasion, I thought a correction was in order. Let's take future discussion offlist. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Liberals actually have 2 whole policies now I believe. Well that would be 2 more than Labor, lets face it, they just have a long line of disasters/failures/wasted many many billions and debt your great great grand children will still be paying off ;) But if I think you follow politics a bit more closely they have a few more positions/policies than 2 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: 'Tweedledum and Tweedledee 1,2,3,3' - The Albert Langer Story http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/CIB/1995-96/96cib14.htm Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert Langer (decades ago, in Victoria), but he was gaoled for a short time for infringing the electoral act by forming a political party called Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee which encouraged people not to vote. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter
Ah, naive, and so transparently biased. Labor do have a stack of policies, it's just that they're mostly failures. As opposed to Liberals who actually don't stand for anything other than telling us one thing and then implementing the complete opposite. A neighbour of mine used to say they were blue and bluer - the Liberal party representing the rich and sucking in a whole lot of aspirational voters into thinking that meant them as well, while Labor is the try-hard party, trying to get the rich to like them as well, while still having problems with the unions. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Liberals actually have 2 whole policies now I believe. Well that would be 2 more than Labor, lets face it, they just have a long line of disasters/failures/wasted many many billions and debt your great great grand children will still be paying off ;) But if I think you follow politics a bit more closely they have a few more positions/policies than 2 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: 'Tweedledum and Tweedledee 1,2,3,3' - The Albert Langer Story http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/CIB/1995-96/96cib14.htm _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia _ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert Langer (decades ago, in Victoria), but he was gaoled for a short time for infringing the electoral act by forming a political party called Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee which encouraged people not to vote. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter
Debt itself isn’t a problem, this is garbage debt does matter, it matters alot more debt = less options massive debt = no options and spending money for the sake of votes is also garbage i needed to make the correction also On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Tony Wright ton...@tpg.com.au wrote: Ah, naive, and so transparently biased. Labor do have a stack of policies, it’s just that they’re mostly failures. As opposed to Liberals who actually don’t stand for anything other than telling us one thing and then implementing the complete opposite. A neighbour of mine used to say they were blue and bluer – the Liberal party representing the rich and sucking in a whole lot of aspirational voters into thinking that meant them as well, while Labor is the try-hard party, trying to get the rich to like them as well, while still having problems with the unions. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *.net noobie *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:24 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Liberals actually have 2 whole policies now I believe. Well that would be 2 more than Labor, lets face it, they just have a long line of disasters/failures/wasted many many billions and debt your great great grand children will still be paying off ;) But if I think you follow politics a bit more closely they have a few more positions/policies than 2 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: 'Tweedledum and Tweedledee 1,2,3,3' - The Albert Langer Story http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/CIB/1995-96/96cib14.htm -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia -- *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas *Sent:* Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM *To:* 'ozDotNet' *Subject:* RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert Langer (decades ago, in Victoria), but he was gaoled for a short time for infringing the electoral act by forming a political party called Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee which encouraged people not to vote. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
