Re: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Any idea what keyboard is the one in the pictures?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B002R9HQLI/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0


(The split keyboard in picture 1) ?



On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  Definitely get the same model monitors if you are doing to put them next
> to each other: I think you want to try to make the transition between them
> as seamless as possible.
>
> ** **
>
> I’d also agree that having one large monitor is better than two smaller
> monitors (e.g. who’d want 2 x 15” monitors these days, compared to a single
> 24” monitor?) It’s just that 30” monitors (and the 27” at the same res)
> were significantly more expensive than 2 x 24” until recently.
>
> ** **
>
> Lastly, I ordered this from Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002R9HQLI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00.
> For US$35 + shipping, you can mount two monitors at what height, angle etc,
> and with less space used on your desk. No need to build hutches or use
> phone books.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 June 2012 6:00 AM
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).
>
> ** **
>
> For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it.
> Just find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and
> have the same settings and are at the same height.
>
> ** **
>
> You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly
> different sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between
> them. It’s the gap that most irritating due to the frame, if only they
> could be tiled like paper -- Greg
>
> ** **
>


Re: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Stephen Price
Having different sized screens takes some getting used to. Not sure my
current system can drive 3 x 30"monitors and I know my wallet can't.

http://pic.twitter.com/jABEc65g



On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> Definitely get the same model monitors if you are doing to put them next to
> each other: I think you want to try to make the transition between them as
> seamless as possible.
>
>
>
> I’d also agree that having one large monitor is better than two smaller
> monitors (e.g. who’d want 2 x 15” monitors these days, compared to a single
> 24” monitor?) It’s just that 30” monitors (and the 27” at the same res) were
> significantly more expensive than 2 x 24” until recently.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I ordered this from Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002R9HQLI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00. For
> US$35 + shipping, you can mount two monitors at what height, angle etc, and
> with less space used on your desk. No need to build hutches or use phone
> books.
>
>
>
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 6:00 AM
> To: 'ozDotNet'
> Subject: RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).
>
>
>
> For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it. Just
> find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and have the
> same settings and are at the same height.
>
>
>
> You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly
> different sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between them.
> It’s the gap that most irritating due to the frame, if only they could be
> tiled like paper -- Greg
>
>


RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Ken Schaefer
Definitely get the same model monitors if you are doing to put them next to 
each other: I think you want to try to make the transition between them as 
seamless as possible.

I'd also agree that having one large monitor is better than two smaller 
monitors (e.g. who'd want 2 x 15" monitors these days, compared to a single 24" 
monitor?) It's just that 30" monitors (and the 27" at the same res) were 
significantly more expensive than 2 x 24" until recently.

Lastly, I ordered this from Amazon: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002R9HQLI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00. For 
US$35 + shipping, you can mount two monitors at what height, angle etc, and 
with less space used on your desk. No need to build hutches or use phone books.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 6:00 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it. Just 
find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and have the 
same settings and are at the same height.

You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly different 
sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between them. It's the gap 
that most irritating due to the frame, if only they could be tiled like paper 
-- Greg



Re: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Les Hughes

Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote:
I also love the MS Natural Keyboard. I'm surprised you changed it. I 
checked a review of that filco keyboard and sounds too noise for my 
liking. Even this MS keyboard is noisy but the design is fantastic.


I still have the MS Natural in my Work Office which I am currently using 
(the pic before was my home office). Given that, on my desk/mess-area I 
have these keyboards:


- MS Natural
- Filco Tenkeyless Cherry-Blue with Blank Keys
- Microsoft Arc
- Microsoft Multimedia
- Kinesis Freestyle
- Various cheap(ish) Logitech and Microsoft keyboards.

This is what I am looking for in the ultimate keyboard (of which I am 
yet to find)
- No keypad, so the mouse is closer to my body. A separate USB keypad 
can be used.
- Something tactile. The blue switches are somewhat noisy, the browns 
are quieter. With tactile keyboards you get instant feedback when the 
keypress actually happens, so you don't need to bottom out the keys 
which is where a lot of the noise comes from. It's an awesome keyboard 
experience.
- A keyboard where the arrow keys + 
home/end/pageup/pagedown/insert/delete are not moved. (This is a top 
level sin)
- A keyboard that doesn't default the F-keys to special ones where you 
have to hold down a function key just to press FX. (This is also a top 
level sin)


Having spent $500+ on keyboards for myself in the last year, if 
Microsoft did their Ergo keyboard with blue or brown mechanical switches 
and got rid of the keypad/made it detachable, I'd hand over $250+ for 
it. (Are you listening Balmer?)


For those interested in the Filco keyboards, they are around $150 inc 
shipping, and I'd recommend them. Here are two to look out for:
- http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/KE-FKBN87MC-EFB2/1838/ <--- Filco 
Tenkeyless Blue-Cherry with Ninja Keys
- http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/KE-FKBN87M-EB2/1838/ <--- Filco 
Tenkeyless Brown-Cherry with Regular Keys (slightly quieter).


You can also get them in regular size, but where is the fun in that? The 
ninja keycaps are nice, but you could also perhaps buy the blank ones 
for mad-1337h4x0r-cred.


--
Les Hughes
l...@datarev.com.au



Re: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread David Walker
I have 2 24s 1920x1200 and have one in portrait. Works really well for coding 
as well as for scanning longer articles on the web.

I think my perfect point would be a 30 in the middle and 2x24s in portrait on 
the left and right hand side.

On 4 Jun 2012, at 23:07, Clint Colefax wrote:

> Anyone run these monitors in portrait for coding? I have vision of getting 3 
> 16:10 ratio monitors and running some in portrait, had a quick go at it at a 
> friends work and for certain situations, I found it great, not sure about 
> long term\for everything tho.
>  
> Thanks
> Clint Colefax
>  
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Keogh
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 8:00 AM
> To: 'ozDotNet'
> Subject: RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).
>  
> For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it. Just 
> find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and have the 
> same settings and are at the same height.
>  
> You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly 
> different sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between them. 
> It’s the gap that most irritating due to the frame, if only they could be 
> tiled like paper -- Greg



RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Clint Colefax
Anyone run these monitors in portrait for coding? I have vision of getting 3 
16:10 ratio monitors and running some in portrait, had a quick go at it at a 
friends work and for certain situations, I found it great, not sure about long 
term\for everything tho.

Thanks
Clint Colefax

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 8:00 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it. Just 
find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and have the 
same settings and are at the same height.

You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly different 
sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between them. It's the gap 
that most irritating due to the frame, if only they could be tiled like paper 
-- Greg



RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Greg Keogh
For Greg and others: If you run 2 screens move to 3 and you'll love it. Just
find the right screens, make sure they are all exactly the same and have the
same settings and are at the same height.

 

You may be right, my two screens are different resolutions, slightly
different sizes, at different angles and there is a 2 inch gap between them.
It's the gap that most irritating due to the frame, if only they could be
tiled like paper -- Greg

 



RE: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Greg Keogh
> 22" and I find it more then enough. I don't even know how I would turn 
> my head if I'd have 6 screens around me?

I would not be surprised to find ergonomic test results to show that
productivity is not significantly increased as the number of monitors
increases. I hate looking to my right at the 2nd screen so much that I only
put occasional glance screens there (email, TODO list, etc). So how much
would I hate looking around at 3 or more screens? I hope I'm not alone in
the feeling that in theory one large screen in front of you is more
eye-and-brain friendly than having lots tiled around you. I certainly became
aware of this feeling when I sat in front of one DEL 30" for a few minutes.
The real test would be to have a single 40" high-res screen, but they only
seem to exist in CSI episodes.

>My ideal "nerd" setup would probably be 3 x the 30" Dells, but I can't
really
>justify $3k at this moment.

They seem to be coming done finally. Just one of these is my current bedtime
wish.

Which reminds me of my other wish ... that colour laser printers with both
A4 and A3 trays would come down. I'd kill for one of those as well, but they
still seem to be up in the "big business" price range.

Greg

P.S. Les, which monitor is showing the flow of anti-matter into the warp
drive reaction chamber?



Re: [OT] FYI, Large Dell Monitor Sale (again).

2012-06-04 Thread Les Hughes

Les Hughes wrote:

 but here is a pic of a 5 monitors I briefly set up a while ago.


Something to note, my $1,500+ monitor stands.

:P
--
Les Hughes
l...@datarev.com.au


RE: Win8 Release Preview

2012-06-04 Thread Greg Keogh
>The latest Win8 preview is available - I saw an AU URL mentioned somewhere.


 

I've been waiting for a Win8 preview disc to arrive as a part of my MSDN
Premium subscription, but it never does. I suspect things have changed and
these days developers are expected to download such previews. Does anyone
know if my suspicions are true?

 

In the old days I used to get alpha, beta release discs clogging my
letterbox. If I knew for certain I'm not going to get a Win8 disc then I
would have fired-off the 3GB ISO download months ago.

 

Greg