SQL Reports driving me nuts

2012-12-13 Thread Stuart Kinnear
I am trawling the net for solutions but haven't  come up with one yet, so
hopefully someone out there can assist.

I have a report that is composed of two tablix controls  one above another.

Tablix A has an unique set data
Tablix B has an unique set data .

If tablix A or B has no data the control should hide itself and collapse
its presence ie zero height.

The problem is that if Tablix A has no data it uses up its allocated
height, however, if we swap the scenario and have no data in Tablix B no
height is taken, because of the report property
'ConsumeContainerWhiteSpace'.

Next I thought I could embed the tablix controls within a host tablix, then
set the rowVisibility property based on the tablix A or B Hidden property
or its underlying dataset's row count. Much cussing and infuriation - the
child tablix controls cannot have independent data sources.

Where to next ? toss the whole lot in the bin and go back to ComponentOne ?
 Surely this can't be that difficult !



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RE: SQL Reports driving me nuts

2012-12-13 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Hey Stuart,

 

Which version are you using?

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax


SQL Down Under | Web:  http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 9:03 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: SQL Reports driving me nuts

 

I am trawling the net for solutions but haven't  come up with one yet, so
hopefully someone out there can assist.

 

I have a report that is composed of two tablix controls  one above another.

 

Tablix A has an unique set data 

Tablix B has an unique set data .

 

If tablix A or B has no data the control should hide itself and collapse its
presence ie zero height.

 

The problem is that if Tablix A has no data it uses up its allocated height,
however, if we swap the scenario and have no data in Tablix B no height is
taken, because of the report property 'ConsumeContainerWhiteSpace'.

 

Next I thought I could embed the tablix controls within a host tablix, then
set the rowVisibility property based on the tablix A or B Hidden property or
its underlying dataset's row count. Much cussing and infuriation - the child
tablix controls cannot have independent data sources.

 

Where to next ? toss the whole lot in the bin and go back to ComponentOne ?
Surely this can't be that difficult ! 

 




 

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Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686 tel:040%20704%205686 .   Office: 03 9589 6502
tel:03%209589%206502 

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

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Re: SQL Reports driving me nuts

2012-12-13 Thread Stuart Kinnear
SSRS 2008.

I think I am getting closer but still struggling. I set both tablix to the
same dataset and filtered it. This way I was able to embed the two tablix
within a parent tablix.

But setting the row visibility did not do anything different - Arrgh !

Anyway, I've come across another article suggesting a static row group.
This I'll try tomorrow when I've cooled down a bit.

- Stuart



On 13 December 2012 21:12, Greg Low (GregLow.com) g...@greglow.com wrote:

 Hey Stuart,

 ** **

 Which version are you using?

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Greg

 ** **

 Dr Greg Low

 ** **

 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
 

 SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stuart Kinnear
 *Sent:* Thursday, 13 December 2012 9:03 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* SQL Reports driving me nuts

 ** **

 I am trawling the net for solutions but haven't  come up with one yet, so
 hopefully someone out there can assist.

 ** **

 I have a report that is composed of two tablix controls  one above another.
 

 ** **

 Tablix A has an unique set data 

 Tablix B has an unique set data .

 ** **

 If tablix A or B has no data the control should hide itself and collapse
 its presence ie zero height.

 ** **

 The problem is that if Tablix A has no data it uses up its allocated
 height, however, if we swap the scenario and have no data in Tablix B no
 height is taken, because of the report property
 'ConsumeContainerWhiteSpace'.

 ** **

 Next I thought I could embed the tablix controls within a host tablix,
 then set the rowVisibility property based on the tablix A or B Hidden
 property or its underlying dataset's row count. Much cussing and
 infuriation - the child tablix controls cannot have independent data
 sources.

 ** **

 Where to next ? toss the whole lot in the bin and go back to ComponentOne
 ?  Surely this can't be that difficult ! 

 ** **


 

 ** **

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 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

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-- 
-
Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
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Re: SQL Reports driving me nuts

2012-12-13 Thread Stuart Kinnear
I think the adage if at first you don't succeed, never try again can be
applied to this problem. No co-operation here so I've dropped it. The
solution is to write separate reports for each scenario, not ideal nor
elegant but it will have to do.

I tried in both client side reports - Visual Studio 10 and server side SSRS
2008  the same problem occurs. A trivial exercise in other event driven
report managers is a nightmare in this beast.

- Stuart


On 13 December 2012 22:59, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote:

 SSRS 2008.

 I think I am getting closer but still struggling. I set both tablix to the
 same dataset and filtered it. This way I was able to embed the two tablix
 within a parent tablix.

 But setting the row visibility did not do anything different - Arrgh !

 Anyway, I've come across another article suggesting a static row group.
 This I'll try tomorrow when I've cooled down a bit.

 - Stuart



 On 13 December 2012 21:12, Greg Low (GregLow.com) g...@greglow.comwrote:

 Hey Stuart,

 ** **

 Which version are you using?

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Greg

 ** **

 Dr Greg Low

 ** **

 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
 

 SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stuart Kinnear
 *Sent:* Thursday, 13 December 2012 9:03 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* SQL Reports driving me nuts

 ** **

 I am trawling the net for solutions but haven't  come up with one yet, so
 hopefully someone out there can assist.

 ** **

 I have a report that is composed of two tablix controls  one above
 another.

 ** **

 Tablix A has an unique set data 

 Tablix B has an unique set data .

 ** **

 If tablix A or B has no data the control should hide itself and collapse
 its presence ie zero height.

 ** **

 The problem is that if Tablix A has no data it uses up its allocated
 height, however, if we swap the scenario and have no data in Tablix B no
 height is taken, because of the report property
 'ConsumeContainerWhiteSpace'.

 ** **

 Next I thought I could embed the tablix controls within a host tablix,
 then set the rowVisibility property based on the tablix A or B Hidden
 property or its underlying dataset's row count. Much cussing and
 infuriation - the child tablix controls cannot have independent data
 sources.

 ** **

 Where to next ? toss the whole lot in the bin and go back to ComponentOne
 ?  Surely this can't be that difficult ! 

 ** **


 

 ** **

 --

 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

 -
 




 --

 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

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Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
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RE: SQL Reports driving me nuts

2012-12-13 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Hi Stuart,

 

Are you setting the visibility of the tablix itself with an expression or just 
hiding the rows?

 

You might also get better responses for SQL issues on the SQL list:  
http://www.sqldownunder.com/Resources/EMailSupportListserver.aspx 
http://www.sqldownunder.com/Resources/EMailSupportListserver.aspx

 

Another good option is #sqlhelp on twitter.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear
Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012 10:45 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: SQL Reports driving me nuts

 

I think the adage if at first you don't succeed, never try again can be 
applied to this problem. No co-operation here so I've dropped it. The solution 
is to write separate reports for each scenario, not ideal nor elegant but it 
will have to do.

 

I tried in both client side reports - Visual Studio 10 and server side SSRS 
2008  the same problem occurs. A trivial exercise in other event driven report 
managers is a nightmare in this beast.

 

- Stuart

 

On 13 December 2012 22:59, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote:

SSRS 2008.

 

I think I am getting closer but still struggling. I set both tablix to the same 
dataset and filtered it. This way I was able to embed the two tablix within a 
parent tablix. 

 

But setting the row visibility did not do anything different - Arrgh !

 

Anyway, I've come across another article suggesting a static row group. This 
I'll try tomorrow when I've cooled down a bit.

 

- Stuart

 

 

On 13 December 2012 21:12, Greg Low (GregLow.com) g...@greglow.com 
mailto:g...@greglow.com  wrote:

Hey Stuart,

 

Which version are you using?

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775 tel:%281300%20775%20775 ) office | +61 419201410 
tel:%2B61%20419201410  mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913  
fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] 
On Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 9:03 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: SQL Reports driving me nuts

 

I am trawling the net for solutions but haven't  come up with one yet, so 
hopefully someone out there can assist.

 

I have a report that is composed of two tablix controls  one above another.

 

Tablix A has an unique set data 

Tablix B has an unique set data .

 

If tablix A or B has no data the control should hide itself and collapse its 
presence ie zero height.

 

The problem is that if Tablix A has no data it uses up its allocated height, 
however, if we swap the scenario and have no data in Tablix B no height is 
taken, because of the report property 'ConsumeContainerWhiteSpace'.

 

Next I thought I could embed the tablix controls within a host tablix, then set 
the rowVisibility property based on the tablix A or B Hidden property or its 
underlying dataset's row count. Much cussing and infuriation - the child tablix 
controls cannot have independent data sources.

 

Where to next ? toss the whole lot in the bin and go back to ComponentOne ?  
Surely this can't be that difficult ! 

 




 

-- 
-
Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686 tel:040%20704%205686 .   Office: 03 9589 6502 
tel:03%209589%206502 

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
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-- 
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Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686 tel:040%20704%205686 .   Office: 03 9589 6502 
tel:03%209589%206502 

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
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Stuart Kinnear
Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
acn. 81 072 778 262
PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

Business software developers.
SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
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Visual accessibility Re: field/button/control labeling enforcement in Visual Studio sometime: who agrees with this proposal?

2012-12-13 Thread steven
Katherine,

I'm a lurker on this list. Not being visually impaired myself, I hadn't thought 
about people such as yourself having such frustration with the tools we use, as 
most attention goes to online accessiblity. Perhaps Microsoft and others aren't 
aware (or aware enough) that blind people do write code. You mention open 
source so from your point of view how does Eclipse stack up in impaired 
accessibility compared to Visual Studio?

As for website accessibility, I'm hoping you're better served. When I designed 
and built the online public litter and illegal dumping reporting system for the 
Queensland Government there was a strong mandate in the requirements to make it 
accessible to visually impaired people, at least for all the public-facing 
components. Alt tags, no flash, caption tags, careful Javascript use, no frames 
and other strict requirements were set.

TO achieve this I found the US government Section 508 Web Accessibility 
Standards to be very helpful, as well as the Illinois Center for Information 
Technology and Web Accessibility guidelines. To test accessibility I found 
browser plug-ins such as the JAWS and WAVE toolbars to be very helpful as these 
allowed me to see what the page would look like to an e-reader as well as in 
contrasting large fonts for use by a partially sighted person.

If you had a few minutes time I'd be interested in what your e-reader makes of 
the accessibility of my litter reporting site  
https://report-littering-dumping.ehp.qld.gov.au
(Written in C# / .NET / MVC2 / LINQ to SQL / SQL Server 2008)

Steve Malikoff.


 Hello guys,
   I was just wondering how many of you agree with this.  I, who's desire 
 it is to become an open source .NET Framework programmer, look at all of the 
 both open source, and not to mention, Microsoft-provided products, and I 
 can't tell you how much lazy programming I see out there.  I'm not calling 
 you lazy programmers, so please, please don't take it that way.  I'm just 
 saying, that for the masses, and especially for the many blind and visually 
 impaired users like me who rely on everything being labeled so that screen 
 readers, or software that  converts text on screen to speech, can understand 
 and provide the right information.  Half of the time, I will download a piece 
 of software whether open source or otherwise, and I will never be able to 
 utilize it due to nothing being labeled, or some things being labeled and 
 others not, giving only half the experience to someone hard of seeing like 
 me.  Now, what I am proposing is strong and provocative, but I think that it 
 could pote!
 ntially be a good thing if implemented correctly.  I think that it would be a 
good idea for Visual Studio to have a compilation requirement that all elements 
are labeled, and all UIA properties exposable by a control are implemented.  
Microsoft themselves are lazy when it comes to that; a lot of their new 
interface for Windows server 2012 for instance, has so much mislabeled and 
missing UIA content that either screen readers don't read at all, or they read 
spurious content, as if they are reading .NET classes, instead of 
application-generated, administrator-friendly messages.  My friend thinks that 
this would only work if Microsoft themselves built this in, and he may be 
right.  But I definitely think that it should be required on most open source 
projects and open source frameworks that all elements be labled and exposed 
that way people of all abilities and disabilities alike can benefit.  I don't 
see how it would work in the commercial sector unless Microsoft implemented !
 it.  Tell me what you guys think.






RE: field/button/control labeling enforcement in Visual Studio sometime: who agrees with this proposal?

2012-12-13 Thread David Kean
(Don't work on Windows Server so can't answer this for them)

Are you see this in Visual Studio itself? We do accessibility test runs and the 
like to try and catch most of these - but I wouldn't be surprised if we missed 
this in some places due to the how much UI we actually have. I'd be happy to 
start filing bugs against teams if you point them out to me.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:08 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: field/button/control labeling enforcement in Visual Studio sometime: 
who agrees with this proposal?

Hello guys,
I was just wondering how many of you agree with this.  I, who's desire 
it is to become an open source .NET Framework programmer, look at all of the 
both open source, and not to mention, Microsoft-provided products, and I can't 
tell you how much lazy programming I see out there.  I'm not calling you lazy 
programmers, so please, please don't take it that way.  I'm just saying, that 
for the masses, and especially for the many blind and visually impaired users 
like me who rely on everything being labeled so that screen readers, or 
software that  converts text on screen to speech, can understand and provide 
the right information.  Half of the time, I will download a piece of software 
whether open source or otherwise, and I will never be able to utilize it due to 
nothing being labeled, or some things being labeled and others not, giving only 
half the experience to someone hard of seeing like me.  Now, what I am 
proposing is strong and provocative, but I think that it could potentially be a 
good thing if implemented correctly.  I think that it would be a good idea for 
Visual Studio to have a compilation requirement that all elements are labeled, 
and all UIA properties exposable by a control are implemented.  Microsoft 
themselves are lazy when it comes to that; a lot of their new interface for 
Windows server 2012 for instance, has so much mislabeled and missing UIA 
content that either screen readers don't read at all, or they read spurious 
content, as if they are reading .NET classes, instead of application-generated, 
administrator-friendly messages.  My friend thinks that this would only work if 
Microsoft themselves built this in, and he may be right.  But I definitely 
think that it should be required on most open source projects and open source 
frameworks that all elements be labled and exposed that way people of all 
abilities and disabilities alike can benefit.  I don't see how it would work in 
the commercial sector unless Microsoft implemented it.  Tell me what you guys 
think.  






What is the most cost effective way of getting VS 2012 Pro + MS Office for development ?

2012-12-13 Thread Arjang Assadi
Hello everyone,

What is the most cost effective way of getting VS 2012 Pro + MS Office for
development ?

Anyone knows a VS 2012 pro allows for 2 non-concurrent use? ( one at home
and one at work?)


Thank you all for any ideas/suggestions


Arjang