Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that works .. anything will work :) As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys the rest should be ok ... On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: Hi, Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ? Thanks
RE: Windows on a Mac Pro
Yeh, yeh. Just wanted to know if anyone on this list has done it and had any issues. (should have waited till Friday g) |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:14 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows on a Mac Pro | |http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+run+windows+on+a+mac+pro | | |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:12 PM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |Hi, | |Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ? | |Thanks | | | |This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Windows on a Mac Pro
I run Windows on my Mac Mini, so not a MBP per se But basically Apple just package up some drivers (most of the hardware in the machine is standard Intel stuff). I think main complaint is that the power management isn't as good as on the MacOSX side of things. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:27 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Windows on a Mac Pro Yeh, yeh. Just wanted to know if anyone on this list has done it and had any issues. (should have waited till Friday g) |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:14 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows on a Mac Pro | |http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+run+windows+on+a+mac+pro | | |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:12 PM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |Hi, | |Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ? | |Thanks | | | |This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that works .. |anything will work :) | |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys the rest |should be ok ... | | |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: | | | Hi, | | Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues |? | | Thanks | | |
RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
Mac Pro - $10K? I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother’s desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels – it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he’s allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that works .. |anything will work :) | |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys the rest |should be ok ... | | |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: | | | Hi, | | Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues |? | | Thanks | | |
RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
I don’t think there’s any need to muck around with anything. Just find your Mac here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634 and there’s links to the relevant Boot Camp driver package for your Mac (including the new Mac Pro) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT (O) Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:54 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Mac Pro - $10K? I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother’s desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels – it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he’s allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.commailto:da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that works .. |anything will work :) | |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys the rest |should be ok ... | | |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: | | | Hi, | | Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues |? | | Thanks | | |
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro | |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that works .. |anything will work :) | |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys the rest |should be ok ... | | |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: | | | Hi, | | Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues |? | | Thanks | | |
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC under retina display On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: -- --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD (3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up due to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see (seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale stuff up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the System font usage) and other stuff isn't. It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but over time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be sorted out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that. Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've seen some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution just to be able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling are evil. The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just. :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC under retina display On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: -- --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
QHD type displays are a pretty new phenomenon in the PC laptop world. I don't think it's necessarily fair to expect apps that might be 2-3 years old to cater for today's hardware/software. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 8:41 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD (3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up due to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see (seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale stuff up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the System font usage) and other stuff isn't. It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but over time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be sorted out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that. Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've seen some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution just to be able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling are evil. The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just. :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.commailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC under retina display On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.commailto:da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: -- --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. Do you primarily run parallels? What application do you run? VS2013? Any performance issues? Regards Adrian Halid From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:33 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC under retina display On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.commailto:da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: -- --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
If life was fair, everything that happened to you you'd actually deserve. ;) On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: QHD type displays are a pretty new phenomenon in the PC laptop world. I don't think it's necessarily fair to expect apps that might be 2-3 years old to cater for today's hardware/software. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Thursday, 20 March 2014 8:41 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD (3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up due to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see (seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale stuff up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the System font usage) and other stuff isn't. It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but over time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be sorted out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that. Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've seen some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution just to be able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling are evil. The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just. :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC under retina display On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...) I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac. My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same). There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this had happened to them, I'm sure. :) From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows replacing the Mac OS. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Mac Pro - $10K? I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal? I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're releasing? Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the right drivers and so on. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day. Just concerned about stability, display drivers etc. |-Original Message- |From: -- --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work. If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop Do you use Creative Suite? Is it any better/more stable under OSX than under Windows? I'm contemplating changing platform when I go through the forced 'upgrade' to CC. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
Use Parallels, not Bootcamp - the latter is a dualboot the former something like VMware. Unlike VMware, though, the application windows float in the Mac desktop, not bound to a VMware window inside the host desktop. Once you've done this, you'll wonder why you'd do it any other way. Loading W7 into Parallels is as easy or easier than VMware. I'm not smitten with MBP keyboards, or Apple keyboards in general. Everywhere I use a KB for a long time, I've gone for a 'natural' type - current fave is the logitech K350 (wireless) Display: Thunderbolt to an external - daisychaining to a thunderbolt raid on the way. Internally its got SSD. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: Hi, Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ? Thanks -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills