Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
works .. anything will work :)

As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
the rest should be ok ...


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 Hi,

 Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ?

 Thanks




RE: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Bill McCarthy
Yeh, yeh.  Just wanted to know if anyone on this list has done it and had any 
issues. (should have waited till Friday g)


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|Hi,
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|Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ?
|
|Thanks
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RE: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
I run Windows on my Mac Mini, so not a MBP per se

But basically Apple just package up some drivers (most of the hardware in the 
machine is standard Intel stuff). I think main complaint is that the power 
management isn't as good as on the MacOSX side of things.

Cheers
Ken

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Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:27 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Windows on a Mac Pro

Yeh, yeh.  Just wanted to know if anyone on this list has done it and had any 
issues. (should have waited till Friday g)


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|Hi,
|
|Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ?
|
|Thanks
|
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Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread David Connors
Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder
they're releasing?

Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all
the right drivers and so on.

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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
 concerned about stability, display drivers etc.

 |-Original Message-
 |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
 |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea
 |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM
 |To: ozDotNet
 |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
 |
 |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
 works ..
 |anything will work :)
 |
 |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
 the rest
 |should be ok ...
 |
 |
 |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy
 |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:
 |
 |
 |   Hi,
 |
 |   Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any
 issues
 |?
 |
 |   Thanks
 |
 |
 |





RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread ILT (O)
Mac Pro - $10K? 

I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard some time back that some developers had 
bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 
7. Apocryphal? 

I know a 14yo who uses his mother’s desktop Mac (one of those things that has 
everthing behind its screen) with Parallels – it performed well enough for the 
commercial Windows games he’s allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing 
about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

 

Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're 
releasing? 

 

Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the 
right drivers and so on. 




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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea
|Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
|
|I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
works ..
|anything will work :)
|
|As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
the rest
|should be ok ...
|
|
|On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy
|bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:
|
|
|   Hi,
|
|   Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any
issues
|?
|
|   Thanks
|
|
|



 



RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
I don’t think there’s any need to muck around with anything. Just find your Mac 
here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634
and there’s links to the relevant Boot Camp driver package for your Mac 
(including the new Mac Pro)

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of ILT (O)
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:54 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

Mac Pro - $10K?
I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard some time back that some developers had 
bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 
7. Apocryphal?
I know a 14yo who uses his mother’s desktop Mac (one of those things that has 
everthing behind its screen) with Parallels – it performed well enough for the 
commercial Windows games he’s allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing 
about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're 
releasing?

Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the 
right drivers and so on.


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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:
I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
concerned about stability, display drivers etc.

|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. 
Tusnea
|Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
|
|I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
works ..
|anything will work :)
|
|As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
the rest
|should be ok ...
|
|
|On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy
|bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au 
wrote:
|
|
|   Hi,
|
|   Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any
issues
|?
|
|   Thanks
|
|
|



Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Stephen Price
I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and
the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)
I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using
VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.

My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid
and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I
don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my
perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly
that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it
for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the
same).

There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if
this had happened to them, I'm sure. :)

From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows
replacing the Mac OS.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

 Mac Pro - $10K?

 I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers
 had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and
 installed Windows 7. Apocryphal?

 I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that
 has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough
 for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of
 stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.
 --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



 Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder
 they're releasing?



 Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all
 the right drivers and so on.


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 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
 concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


 |-Original Message-
 |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
 |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea
 |Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM
 |To: ozDotNet
 |Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
 |
 |I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
 works ..
 |anything will work :)
 |
 |As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
 the rest
 |should be ok ...
 |
 |
 |On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy
 |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:
 |
 |
 |   Hi,
 |
 |   Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any
 issues
 |?
 |
 |   Thanks
 |
 |
 |





Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Scott Barnes
I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design
tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again
it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop

The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at
times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at
times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run
an app for PC under retina display



On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth
 (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)
 I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using
 VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.

 My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the
 lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back.
 I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my
 perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly
 that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it
 for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the
 same).

 There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if
 this had happened to them, I'm sure. :)

 From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows
 replacing the Mac OS.


 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

 Mac Pro - $10K?

 I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers
 had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and
 installed Windows 7. Apocryphal?

 I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that
 has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough
 for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of
 stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.
 --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



 Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder
 they're releasing?



 Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all
 the right drivers and so on.


  David Connors
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 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
 concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


 |-Original Message-
 |From:



-- 
---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Stephen Price
Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD
(3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up
due to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see
(seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale
stuff up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the
System font usage) and other stuff isn't.
It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but
over time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be
sorted out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that.
Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've
seen some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution
just to be able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling
are evil.

The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just.
:)



On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design
 tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

 If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again
 it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop

 The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at
 times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at
 times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run
 an app for PC under retina display



 On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth
 (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)
 I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using
 VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.

 My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the
 lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back.
 I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my
 perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly
 that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it
 for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the
 same).

 There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if
 this had happened to them, I'm sure. :)

 From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows
 replacing the Mac OS.


 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

 Mac Pro - $10K?

 I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some
 developers had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple
 OS and installed Windows 7. Apocryphal?

 I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that
 has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough
 for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of
 stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.
 --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



 Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder
 they're releasing?



 Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads
 all the right drivers and so on.


  David Connors
 da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
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 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
 concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


 |-Original Message-
 |From:



 --
 ---
 Regards,
 Scott Barnes
 http://www.riagenic.com



RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
QHD type displays are a pretty new phenomenon in the PC laptop world. I don't 
think it's necessarily fair to expect apps that might be 2-3 years old to cater 
for today's hardware/software.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 8:41 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD 
(3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up due 
to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see 
(seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale stuff 
up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the System font 
usage) and other stuff isn't.
It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but over 
time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be sorted 
out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that.
Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've seen 
some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution just to be 
able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling are evil.

The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just.
:)


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes 
scott.bar...@gmail.commailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design 
tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it 
runs normal as you would with a PC laptop

The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times 
notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for 
some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC 
under retina display



On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the 
specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)
I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's 
Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.

My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and 
filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't 
think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly 
nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't 
give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of 
what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same).

There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this 
had happened to them, I'm sure. :)

From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows 
replacing the Mac OS.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) 
il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

Mac Pro - $10K?

I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had 
bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 
7. Apocryphal?

I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has 
everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the 
commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing 
about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.



Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're 
releasing?



Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the 
right drivers and so on.


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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
concerned about stability, display drivers etc.

|-Original Message-
|From:

--
---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com



RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Adrian Halid
 I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design 
 tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

Do you primarily run parallels?
What application do you run?
VS2013?
Any performance issues?

Regards

Adrian Halid

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:33 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design 
tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again it 
runs normal as you would with a PC laptop

The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at times 
notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at times for 
some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run an app for PC 
under retina display



On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth (and the 
specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)
I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using VMWare's 
Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.

My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the lid and 
filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back. I don't 
think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my perfectly 
nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly that I didn't 
give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it for about half of 
what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the same).

There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if this 
had happened to them, I'm sure. :)

From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows 
replacing the Mac OS.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) 
il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

Mac Pro - $10K?

I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers had 
bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 
7. Apocryphal?

I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that has 
everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough for the 
commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing 
about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.



Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're 
releasing?



Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the 
right drivers and so on.


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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
concerned about stability, display drivers etc.

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Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread Stephen Price
If life was fair, everything that happened to you you'd actually deserve. ;)



On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

  QHD type displays are a pretty new phenomenon in the PC laptop world. I
 don't think it's necessarily fair to expect apps that might be 2-3 years
 old to cater for today's hardware/software.



 Cheers

 Ken



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
 *Sent:* Thursday, 20 March 2014 8:41 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



 Not unfair to expect at all. My laptop (Samsung Book 9 Plus) has 13 QHD
 (3200x1800) screen and a good number of the apps are all kinds of messed up
 due to not handling scaling right. If you don't scale its too tiny to see
 (seriously small fonts on 13 screen - lucky I got glasses!) or you scale
 stuff up 150 to 200%. Problem is SOME stuff gets scales (probably the
 System font usage) and other stuff isn't.

 It's a problem now because they are so new (QHD and Retina screens) but
 over time more developers will get them and in a few years it will all be
 sorted out. Cutting/bleeding edge and all that.

 Visual Studio handles it really nice due to WPF scaling awesomeness. I've
 seen some Installer dialogs so messed up I've had to drop the resolution
 just to be able to see the Next button. Non resizable dialogs with scaling
 are evil.



 The screens are so crisp and clear that you live with it. Just.

 :)





 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design
 tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.



 If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again
 it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop



 The old days of issues have long gone and the only frustrating thing I at
 times notice is display settings for fonts etc aren't retina compliant at
 times for some apps .. But that's unfair given well nobody expects to run
 an app for PC under retina display





 On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

  I had a Mac book pro some years back. 17 top of the line. $4300 worth
 (and the specs were not fantastic but the best one I could get...)

 I set it up to dual boot but I rarely booted into Mac OS. Was using
 VMWare's Fusion to run windows as a VM when I did boot it as a Mac.



 My wife poured (accident?) a hot cup of tea onto it, which ran down the
 lid and filled the perfectly watertight chassis via the hinge at the back.
 I don't think any leaked out at all. I didn't even cry a bit. It was my
 perfectly nonchalant reaction to this incident that told me quite loudly
 that I didn't give a toss about it. Apple were more than happy to repair it
 for about half of what it cost me (with no Guarantee it would ever be the
 same).



 There are some Apple fanbois out there that would have hurt themselves if
 this had happened to them, I'm sure. :)



 From memory it wasn't very hard to dual boot it, or even install Windows
 replacing the Mac OS.



 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

  Mac Pro - $10K?

 I don't know if it's true, but I heard some time back that some developers
 had bought *MacBook Pro* for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and
 installed Windows 7. Apocryphal?

 I know a 14yo who uses his mother's desktop Mac (one of those things that
 has everthing behind its screen) with Parallels - it performed well enough
 for the commercial Windows games he's allowed to have, but it took a bit of
 stuffing about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.
  --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
 mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David Connors
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM


 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro



 Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder
 they're releasing?



 Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all
 the right drivers and so on.


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 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
 concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


 |-Original Message-
 |From:



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 Regards,
 Scott Barnes
 http://www.riagenic.com





Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I run windows 8 on MacBook Pro daily and no issues .. I use osx for design
 tools and MacBook for dev work and seamless work.

 If you run parallels that is. If you run it native ie via boot camp again
 it runs normal as you would with a PC laptop


Do you use Creative Suite? Is it any better/more stable under OSX than
under Windows? I'm contemplating changing platform when I go through the
forced 'upgrade' to CC.

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Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

2014-03-20 Thread mike smith
Use Parallels, not Bootcamp - the latter is a dualboot the former something
like VMware.  Unlike VMware, though, the application windows float in the
Mac desktop, not bound to a VMware window inside the host desktop.   Once
you've done this, you'll wonder why you'd do it any other way.  Loading W7
into Parallels is as easy or easier than VMware.

I'm not smitten with MBP keyboards, or Apple keyboards in general.
 Everywhere I use a KB for a long time, I've gone for a 'natural' type -
current fave is the logitech K350 (wireless)

Display:  Thunderbolt to an external - daisychaining to a thunderbolt raid
on the way.  Internally its got SSD.



On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy 
bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 Hi,

 Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any issues ?

 Thanks




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