RE: [OT] SSL testing

[ILT]

A web search for the string ‘disableSSLv3.ps1’ should give you a TechNet 
description (which might have been the source?) and a few other links. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:46 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] SSL testing

 

You generally should fix these as it means your system is open to information 
leakage or inspection from malicious people. Depending on the site and what it 
hosts, this may not be a big issue but the tools to exploit these holes get 
more common as time goes on.

 

To fix the certificate issues, just get a new cert from somewhere like Digicert 
that offers quality certificates that are quite cheap (note: if you have to 
support older OS’s like Windows XP, they will not have the necessary root 
certificates installed and thus complain about your cert).

 

For the other warnings, you generally have to patch the OS to some degree. On 
windows systems there is a simple powershell script that you run which alters 
the registry and disables to fallback to older algorithms that have exploits. 
It does depend on the OS level though as to how much you need to do. I attached 
the powershell script I used to disable a older algorithms on one of my servers 
but make sure it suits your OS. I don’t have the link handy where I got it from 
tho. Sorry

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 2:40 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] SSL testing

 

I noticed a mate's shopping site over the weekend returning the following in 
the connection info for the certificate:

 

I just tested my own domain with its 6 month old certificate. I also got a 
series of frightening warnings:

 

This server supports SSL 2, which is obsolete and insecure. Grade set to F. 
This server is vulnerable to the POODLE attack. If possible, disable SSL 3 to 
mitigate. Grade capped to C.
Certificate uses a weak signature. When renewing, ensure you upgrade to SHA2.
The server supports only older protocols, but not the current best TLS 1.2. 
Grade capped to C.
This server accepts the RC4 cipher, which is weak. Grade capped to B.

 

The long and detailed list of test results are quite complicated. I'm not happy 
about getting an F for flunk grade, but I'm not sure what I can do about it, or 
if I'm even supposed to do anything.

 

Comments ... anyone knowledgeable on these matters?

 

Greg K

RE: [OT] Privacy - Microsoft Chief Legal Officer

[ILT]

Yes, this has being going on for quite a while. There's some allusion to those 
problems in Microsoft's various blog posts that I have read. It will be 
interesting to see how this pans out. 
The Trans-Pacific Partnership is not going to help data privacy - in my 
opinion, it will be a major obstacle to the necessary safeguards. 
 
Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:00 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Privacy - Microsoft Chief Legal Officer

On 24 October 2015 at 17:49, ILT  wrote:
> Two posts that I have found interesting –
>
> http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/10/20/the-collapse-of-the-us-eu-safe-harbor-solving-the-new-privacy-rubiks-cube/
>
> http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/10/06/a-message-to-our-customers-about-eu-us-safe-harbor/

The most interesting part is why the ECJ ruled the safe harbour
provisions invalid in the first place:

http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2015-10/cp150117en.pdf

Basically, the ECJ had enough of US companies blatantly violating the
conditions. The last straw was apparently the inability of the Irish
High Court to decide a case regarding Facebook giving the US public
authorities (e.g. NSA) unrestricted access to an Austrian citizen's
personal data.

--
Thomas Koster

[OT] Privacy - Microsoft Chief Legal Officer

[ILT]

Two posts that I have found interesting - 

http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/10/20/the-collapse-of-the-us-e
u-safe-harbor-solving-the-new-privacy-rubiks-cube/ 

 

http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/10/06/a-message-to-our-custome
rs-about-eu-us-safe-harbor/ 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

RE: Mobile device photos

[ILT]

Windows Phone 8.1 - anyone tried it (Chrome is n/a on these devices) 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Kirsten Greed
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Mobile device photos

 

The built in browser (Android Browser 4 on mine ) does bring up the camera

 

 

 

  _  

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 1:42 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Mobile device photos

Chrome is great. My brother works on the chrome team. Are you saying I can't
trust my own family?

 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM, DotNet Dude  wrote:

Don't let Greg hear you mention Chrome :p 



On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Kirsten Greed  wrote:

I think Mercury came with my phone.

Will try installing Chrome

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 1:32 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Mobile device photos

I was unfamiliar with the Mercury browser too. Not sure what tech it is
based on, but by the Play store's metrics it has been downloaded between
500,000 and 1,000,000 times. This sounds like a lot, but then you look at
the numbers and see that Firefox has been downloaded between 100,000,000 and
500,000,000 times. Unless your metric show a compelling reason to do
otherwise I wouldn't support boutique 3rd party browsers.  

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilegendsoft.mercury
 &hl=en

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox

&hl=en 

 

It would be worth checking to see if the android 'built-in' browser (which
is not Chrome) supports this, as it is likely much more widely used.

 

Joseph

 

 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:06 PM, David Burstin 
wrote:

Mine worked on my HTC m8 using Chrome. 

 

What and why Mercury browser?

 

On 22 October 2015 at 12:37, Kirsten Greed  wrote:

I went to the url on my android phone with it's Mercury browser but nothing
happens when I touch Choose File

 

 

  _  

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Mobile device photos

Basically all it does it bring up the camera where you can take a photo.
Then when you do a form POST it will be submitted like a normal
input[type=file]. It even displays a little preview of the photo next to the
input. 

 

Open this on your phone https://jsfiddle.net/wkwq6kLz/

 

Craig

 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

I have done this before. 

 



 

This will basically work like a standard file upload input but will use the
camera to select the file.

 

Goog grief! That's like black magic. So you click the button rendered next
to the  control and what happens?

 

In my case it looks like the initial devices in the field will be iPads.
I'll read up on the expanded  element and make a test page and try it
on the weekend.

 

Greg

 

 





 

-- 

 

w: http://jcooney.net 

t: @josephcooney





 

-- 

 

w: http://jcooney.net 

t: @josephcooney

RE: Office 365 platforms

[ILT]

Mincemeat?

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Office 365 platforms

 

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 at 09:22 Greg Keogh  wrote:

Hi Folks, a Friday topic, but, I've just installed Office 365 and in the 
Account page it says you can install it on up to 5 machines running PC, Mac, 
iPhone, iPad, Android Phone, Android Tablet, Windows Phone and Windows Tablet. 
How on earth did the Microsoft developers get the apps to run on all those 
platforms?! It's inconceivable that there could be much of a common code base, 
so it must be a mind-boggling technical and logistical challenge to support all 
those platforms. Anyone have inside info on this?

 

Doubt there is much common code in the Android version. It makes mincemeat out 
of word documents. 

 

David. 

-- 

David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

[OT] Anyone getting spam?

[ILT]

I've received 3 emails (yesterday + today) passed on from ozdot...@gmail.com
that are innocuous but unwanted. They get files by my emailer to my folder
for OzDotNet list. No real problem to delete,  of course. 

Has anyone else had this problem? 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

RE: CORS, Azure, Chrome desktop and mobile

[ILT]

David, the only error I have is that favicon.ico can’t be found by server.

Chrome Version 45.0.2454.101 m, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, .NET 4.52

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burstin
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: CORS, Azure, Chrome desktop and mobile

 

Here is mine on Chrome 45, Windows 7:

 

Inline images 1

 

There should be a list of items on the page. Note the error message in chrome 
tools.

 

On 13 October 2015 at 14:46, Nelson  wrote:

Works for me - win7 chrome 45

 

details on how to trigger the error maybe?

 

or attach your error log

 

On 13 October 2015 at 14:42, David Burstin  wrote:

Hi folks,

 

I have a web site on Azure and it utilizes a web api on Azure. I believe that I 
have set up CORS correctly (controller attributes in web api), but I still get 
errors when using Chrome from the desktop, although Chrome from Android has no 
problems.

 

Does anyone have any ideas how to fix / debug this?

 

It is just a play site, so if you want to test it go to 
http://dartsstuff.azurewebsites.net/

 

Cheers

Dave

 

 

RE: [OT] home server

[ILT]

Ken

I have used WHS 2011 really only as a file server. The HP hardware was quite 
cheap when I bought it initially – apart from adding RAM, and extra drives. I 
have used TeamViewer to download to it remotely (I can use my personal data 
quotas at cheaper rates than when at a remote location, in Australia or 
overseas – and it’s Windows, necessary for the special-purpose downloader). I 
don’t have a great number of complaints about WHS 2011.

I bought DriveBender, when initially released (Oct 2011), and never got to 
install any of the many versions (v1310 was the last I downloaded), as it 
seemed that it was never out of beta. Can you comment on its effectiveness? I 
have just had a look at Division-M’s support page and see that it supports 
Windows 8 and Server 2012, so I have downloaded v2380 and will contact the 
developers/publishers if I need to ‘renew’ my license.

DriveBender may suit me best. unRAID free edition seems a little restrictive to 
me (2 drives), though mixing HDD sizes is an attraction cf RAID. I think the HP 
Microserver’s controller does support JBOD as well though. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Hi,

 

What are the limitations you see with WHS2011? I can then let you know if that 
goes away with WSE2012.

 

With my setup, I’ve used a regular Windows Server 2012 R2 and added the WSE 
role – that allows you to join the server to my existing AD domain, and gives 
you all the related goodness (e.g. centralised account management etc.)

 

I then have a CrashPlan subscription that allows me to backup critical 
information offsite (Crashplan also supports backups locally, and to friends 
you might have).

 

I use DriveBender to give me folder-by-folder RAID1, rather than relying on 
hardware RAID. There’s various other software RAID systems out there you could 
also use.

 

I like WSE because it’s a regular Windows Server under the covers, so you can 
do a lot more than just serve files (run whatever services you want, it can act 
as a reverse proxy etc.). However if your primary use case is to serve/backup 
files, then a NAS is probably going to be simpler to manage and consume less 
power.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of ILT
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 2:20 PM
To: 'ozDotNet' 
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 
with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my 
HP Microserver? 

Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup 
devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts 
of stuff) than spend on another box. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so 
I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of ILT
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Ken, are you still running WHS 2011?

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. 
Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper 
to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred 
MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to 
consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone)

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- 
terabytes is a sh1tload. 

 

 

 

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)  wrote:

On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious 
NAS -> QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), 
little “r” ping me back.

 

 <https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15> 
https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...

RE: [OT] home server

[ILT]

Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a 
think about it.

Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, 
striped, mirrored, RAID)  once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive 
(which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been 
designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously.

Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at 
the end of last year, I guess – probably this 
<http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/docker-on-windows-server-how-will-it-work--1275009>
 ) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burstin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth 
your time checking out UnRaid <http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/> . I 
have been using it for years without any problems. And it is free for up to 3 
drives (2 data, 1 parity), so up to 6TB storage. 

 

Cheers

Dave

 

On 27 July 2015 at 14:19, ILT  wrote:

Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 
with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my 
HP Microserver? 

Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup 
devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts 
of stuff) than spend on another box. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so 
I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of ILT
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Ken, are you still running WHS 2011?

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. 
Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper 
to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred 
MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to 
consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone)

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- 
terabytes is a sh1tload. 

 

 

 

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)  wrote:

On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious 
NAS -> QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), 
little “r” ping me back.

 

 <https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15> 
https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410   
mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913   fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our 
office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access 
Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The 
files sit on the nas and just share the folder. 

Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand 
with a second bay doubling the number of bays. 

 

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker  wrote:

Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? 

I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb 
red drives for now. 

On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, "Stephen Price"  wrote:

Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs.
Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it

It's brilliant

 

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT  wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home 
networking, media server). 

As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home 
network, based on a nice little 

RE: [OT] home server

[ILT]

Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 
with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my 
HP Microserver? 

Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup 
devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts 
of stuff) than spend on another box. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so 
I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of ILT
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Ken, are you still running WHS 2011?

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. 
Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper 
to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred 
MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to 
consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone)

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- 
terabytes is a sh1tload. 

 

 

 

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)  wrote:

On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious 
NAS -> QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), 
little “r” ping me back.

 

 <https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15> 
https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our 
office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access 
Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The 
files sit on the nas and just share the folder. 

Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand 
with a second bay doubling the number of bays. 

 

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker  wrote:

Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? 

I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb 
red drives for now. 

On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, "Stephen Price"  wrote:

Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs.
Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it

It's brilliant

 

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT  wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home 
networking, media server). 

As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home 
network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM 
running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011.

I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 
8 or 10 would do the job? 

Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not 
using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days 
(eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage 
spaces on a newer OS?

I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server 
Essentials would offer.

Thanks


  _  


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

-- 

David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

RE: [OT] home server

[ILT]

Ken, are you still running WHS 2011?

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] home server

 

Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. 
Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper 
to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred 
MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to 
consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone)

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- 
terabytes is a sh1tload. 

 

 

 

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)  wrote:

On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious 
NAS -> QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), 
little “r” ping me back.

 

 <https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15> 
https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:  <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] home server

 

I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our 
office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access 
Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The 
files sit on the nas and just share the folder. 

Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand 
with a second bay doubling the number of bays. 

 

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker  wrote:

Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? 

I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb 
red drives for now. 

On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, "Stephen Price"  wrote:

Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs.
Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it

It's brilliant

 

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT  wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home 
networking, media server). 

As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home 
network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM 
running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011.

I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 
8 or 10 would do the job? 

Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not 
using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days 
(eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage 
spaces on a newer OS?

I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server 
Essentials would offer.

Thanks


  _  


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

-- 

David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

[OT] home server

[ILT]

I'd appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home
networking, media server). 

As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I've been thinking of replacing my aged home
network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM
running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011.

I'm not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe
Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? 

Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and
not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these
days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using
storage spaces on a newer OS?

I'd like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server
Essentials would offer.

Thanks

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

RE: [OT] Not so amusing phone story

[ILT]

Yeah, when we get major updates to desktop software there is traditionally 
plenty of warning as you read about it magazines and get preview releases.  
Phones through don't seem to have the same culture, stuff just arrives, and 
there are so many apps from so many vendors that I suppose there's no simple 
way of maintaining awareness of everything that's changing. I certainly have no 
time or interest to read up on the ecosystem around my phone, after all, it's 
just a fancy tool and I expect it to work, consistently!

Also, Windows desktop programs vendors/producers/developers will usually retain 
older versions, and it is at least possible to uninstall an annoying new 
version of an application (cf a mobile device “app”), and use the older one if 
you want to. 

I guess complete or partial (Windows Update) OS updates or changes run counter 
to that, though. 

I use Windows Phone – the OS changes are glacial, so not so much of a problem…

I’ve also resisted Windows 8, 8.1, etc though on my wife’s desktop I have 
installed 8.1.1 (or so) plus a third-party start menu - so the thing isn’t so 
damned annoying. But I will upgrade all my Windows machines to 10, in 3 weeks. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

RE: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

[ILT (O)]

Chrome installed eh! It truly is a global virus! -- GK

Interesting that Microsoft’s “Spartan” browser may/will be minimalist and 
extensible – like Chrome (according to Mary Jo Foley 

  and Neowin 

 ). 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 6:16 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

 

I have installed it to have a look (but not yet spent any time on it yet). I 
was surprised to see when it installed the external stuff (ie android sdk etc) 
it actually installed google chrome for me. Kind of a really? Wow! Moment. 

I'm installing a Win8.1 VM as I type, to receive VS2015 for a bash. Chrome 
installed eh! It truly is a global virus! -- GK

RE: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

[ILT (O)]

Not really related to universal apps, but there is an interesting short article 
in InfoQ that quotes DevExpress specifically about “their take" on the future 
of Silverlight. 

This is the teaser - 

DevExpress on the Future of WinForms and Silverlight

You can tell a lot about the future of a UI toolkit by how the third party 
control vendors are treating it. Since their revenue is based around correctly 
predicting what developers are going to be using in the near future, they spend 
a lot of time and effort researching the topic. In this report, we’ll be 
looking at DevExpress and their treatment of WinForms and Silverlight. (News 
 )

Suffice to say DevExpress is putting Silverlight development “on hold”. But 
they are positive about the future of XAML. (link 

 )

>From its early beginnings in WPF and Silverlight, XAML has grown into a 
>cross-platform user interface definition language. We now use it for WPF, 
>WinRT, Windows Phone, and soon-if-not-now Universal Apps. The legacy of 
>Silverlight the framework is essentially Windows Phone, but that of XAML is 
>across all platforms. 

Windows Forms? Read the two articles. 

Back to Microsoft’s universal apps. My original post and remarks about the 
comments below the Microsoft blog article was non-judgmental – in contrast to 
the comments (I find they’re usually alarmist, occasionally informative). As 
David Kean make clear,  Microsoft wouldn’t leave those gaping omissions. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 5:43 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

 

Thanks David, your link to this article

  
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/12/04/introducing-net-core.aspx

posted about a month ago (good reading) clarifies where things are headed.

I hadn't been following the news closely, so I was unclear about the big

picture of where all the frameworks, portables, RTs and Universals were

heading, I couldn't see an end-game.

 

I can't picture yet how this will affect the way I chose to build and

deploy various project types, but perhaps the preview VS2015 will show me

... has anyone tried VS2015? Does it have new behaviour to prepare for all

the .NET core refactoring? I'm planning to make a VM to try VS2015 this

weekend.

 

*Greg K*

 

On 3 January 2015 at 12:03, David Kean <  
david.k...@microsoft.com> wrote:

 

>  The next version of universal apps is going to be lovely. We’ll have a

> single Windows and .NET surface area across all Windows 10 devices, and

> we’ll be filling a bunch of the glaring gaps (including WCF, local database

> – we’ll have EF running over SQLLite, file IO, crypto). As part of .NET

> Core

> < 
>  
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/12/04/introducing-net-core.aspx>

> effort, we’ve also ported a bunch of legacy areas to make porting from

> existing .NET code easier. If you think things are missing that should be

> included and you’ve not listed them below, feel free to send them onto me.

> 

> 

> 

> *From:*   ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
> [mailto:

>   ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Stephen Price

> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:06 PM

> *To:* ozDotNet

> *Subject:* Re: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

> 

> 

> 

> Universal apps are lovely.

> 

> 

> 

> there you go.

> 

> [image:

>  
> 
>  
> http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4LGzzVdDZcj8qlRZHN5w6vp0g4p7Cf96836-01?si=6200614728499200&pi=18f8bcdd-be75-4e65-cda4-5bf7f562f3e2]

> 

> 

> 

> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Greg Keogh <  
> g...@mira.net> wrote:

> 

>It’s interesting to read the comments, and the Microsoft replies –

> about what is currently missing from “universal” and why Silverlight is

> more suitable, at present.

> 

> 

> 

> Good grief! I didn't previously scroll down to see those comments. I don't

> think this migration to WinRT should have been announced until all of the

> glaring omissions were available. Alarms, reminders, copy-paste, local

> database, WCF (they must be kidding, or can't talk to anything)... The

> whole RT and winmd files thing leaves me bewildered by more diverg

RE: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

[ILT (O)]

It’s interesting to read the comments, and the Microsoft replies – about what 
is currently missing from “universal” and why Silverlight is more suitable, at 
present. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:43 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

 

Greg K – I assume you receive the MSDN Flash and saw this article 

 ? 

 

Yes I did see that. WinRT comes to Phone 8.1 so you can run mostly shared code 
on phone, tablet and desktop (after a big refactor). That's great for people 
who want to do that, but not me at the moment due to the fact that the job I'm 
on requires phone 8.0. However, it's good to know this small convergence exists 
in case it's useful for future projects -- GK

WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

[ILT (O)]

Greg K – I assume you receive the MSDN Flash and saw this article 

 ? 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

RE: Programmatically call forward

[ILT (O)]

TAPI and its extensions?  I encountered this 
<http://www.tapiex.com/support/whatistapi.htm> , possibly of interest.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:25 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Programmatically call forward

 

Local phone is preferred. 

 

 

 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, mike smith  wrote:

Depends on whether you want to control the virtual (SIP) phone, or a local 
(POTS) phone.  

 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:42 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

Wouldn’t the “phone” through the modem be done by VOIP – whether cable or ADSL 
–  and therefore you would be looking at SIP for communications? 

Try a search for something like SIP SDK or MSDN SIP and you may get some ideas. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:49 AM
To: Glen Harvy; ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Programmatically call forward

 

Your modem modern probably doesn't even connect to a phone line.  Or may not, 
ADSL is often naked as well.  So you'd need a DTMF with AUSTEL approved 
isolator.   Hmmm.  Or a sound card could do the generation, but you'd still 
need to get it isolated.  

 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Glen Harvy  wrote:

The short answer is - Yes.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, there were modems. You plugged the 
phone line into them and then plugged the modem into your coms/serial port. The 
software would then send commands to the modem to send the appropriate tones 
for '*' '2' '1'' ' '#'.

I see no reason why you still can't do it. CodeProject had several examples you 
can use to send the appropriate code to your modem/router and it should also be 
possible to interface with the modem/router via the network rather than the 
serial port.

You may need an API to the router, not the telco service provider.


On 16/12/2014 10:05 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote:

Can I do this programatically though, from a .NET program?

 

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Mark Hurd  wrote:

On: *21#
Off: #21#

--
Regards,
Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)


On 16 December 2014 at 18:58, Craig van Nieuwkerk  wrote:
> I have a client who wants to be able to have a button in our app to turn
> on/off call forwarding on their phone system.
>
> Does Telstra (or Optus) have any API anyone knows about for things like
> this?
>
> Craig




 

-- 

Meski


  <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills




 

-- 

Meski


  <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

RE: Programmatically call forward

[ILT (O)]

Depends on whether you want to control the virtual (SIP) phone, or a local 
(POTS) phone.  

True, Mike. Interestingly some mass-appeal modems now have ports (connections) 
for both. I think there’s a TP-Link ADSL modem that does. (This doesn’t help to 
answer the original question, though).

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

RE: Programmatically call forward

[ILT (O)]

Wouldn’t the “phone” through the modem be done by VOIP – whether cable or ADSL 
–  and therefore you would be looking at SIP for communications? 

Try a search for something like SIP SDK or MSDN SIP and you may get some ideas. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:49 AM
To: Glen Harvy; ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Programmatically call forward

 

Your modem modern probably doesn't even connect to a phone line.  Or may not, 
ADSL is often naked as well.  So you'd need a DTMF with AUSTEL approved 
isolator.   Hmmm.  Or a sound card could do the generation, but you'd still 
need to get it isolated.  



 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Glen Harvy  wrote:

The short answer is - Yes.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, there were modems. You plugged the 
phone line into them and then plugged the modem into your coms/serial port. The 
software would then send commands to the modem to send the appropriate tones 
for '*' '2' '1'' ' '#'.

I see no reason why you still can't do it. CodeProject had several examples you 
can use to send the appropriate code to your modem/router and it should also be 
possible to interface with the modem/router via the network rather than the 
serial port.

You may need an API to the router, not the telco service provider.


On 16/12/2014 10:05 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote:

Can I do this programatically though, from a .NET program?

 

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Mark Hurd  wrote:

On: *21#
Off: #21#

--
Regards,
Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)


On 16 December 2014 at 18:58, Craig van Nieuwkerk  wrote:
> I have a client who wants to be able to have a button in our app to turn
> on/off call forwarding on their phone system.
>
> Does Telstra (or Optus) have any API anyone knows about for things like
> this?
>
> Craig




 

-- 

Meski


   http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

RE: Duplicate matching

[ILT (O)]

Yes, I use Treesize (Professional) when I need to discover files on disks. I’ve 
had to do it remotely using TeamViewer – hence the Pro version – but a free 
version and also a trial of the Pro version are available as I recall. It’s 
worth a try.

But I’m interested in the algorithm and the code, since it might be useful 
within a program of mine and also in a personal scenario similar to Greg K’s. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Duplicate matching

 

Am curious, is the idea of the exercise to write your own code to solve the 
problem, or to solve the problem? I've used Treesize pro to find file 
duplicates in the past. Also have used Directory Opus to find duplicates. Great 
for finding identical files with different names. Probably won't help if the 
songs are the same song but from a different source. Your file name pattern 
matching code would be the way to go. (Which is also the case if this is a 
programming exercise :)

 

Maybe I'm a lazy coder,  I usually look for someone elses product/code before 
writing my own. I can see the benefit of writing your own too.  

  

 

 

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

Thanks Greg H, the "weighting" is a very interesting idea. I'm running some 
simple experiments now with a word list and an inverted list of file names, 
just to help me picture the problem in my head. The problem with a weighting 
comparison is that I don't know what to compare with what, comparing 20,000 
file names with every other one might run into the next ice age. However, I 
like the weighting idea, so I might finish up with a hybrid algorithm. I'll let 
you know if anything interesting arises out of this -- Greg K

 

On 29 November 2014 at 11:17, Greg Harris  
wrote:

Hi Greg,

 

I should look at my code before I write comments from memory...

The result is a double value being the sum of:

· number of times the same letter appears in both strings

· 10 times the number of times the same two letters appears in both 
strings

· 100 times the number of times the same three letters appears in both 
strings

Which is then divided by the length of the two strings to sort of “normalise” 
the result.

Mixed case is ignored, only compares letters A-Z and 0-9, everything else is 
excluded.

I added a Greg unit test to better show the results which is following…

 

Regards 

Greg Harris

 

[TestMethod] public void Test_10_Compare3_ForGregKeogh()

{

  //   123456789-123456789-123456789-123456789-12456

  string lTestLine1 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  string lTestLine2 = "Trumpet Concerto (William Lovelock).mp3";

  double lExpected  = 3033/(36.0 + 33.0); // = 43.9

  double lResult= lTestLine1.CompareSoundsLike( lTestLine2 );

  Assert.AreEqual( lExpected, lResult );

 

  // This is an example of exactly the same string, so will get the best 
posible match

  lTestLine1 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  lTestLine2 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  lExpected  = 5256/(36.0 + 36.0); // = 73.0

  lResult= lTestLine1.CompareSoundsLike( lTestLine2 );

  Assert.AreEqual( lExpected, lResult );

 

  // This is an example of exactly the same string, with case difference, 
which is ignored, 

  // so will also get the best possible match

  lTestLine1 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  lTestLine2 = "LOVELOCK - TRUMPET CONCERTO (SSO CONCERT).mp3";

  lExpected  = 5256/(36.0 + 36.0); // = 73.0

  lResult= lTestLine1.CompareSoundsLike( lTestLine2 );

  Assert.AreEqual( lExpected, lResult );

 

  // This is an example of a spelling/typing mistake, so will get a very 
good match

  lTestLine1 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  lTestLine2 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SoSo Concert).mp3";

  lExpected  = 5272/(36.0 + 37.0); // = 72.2

  lResult= lTestLine1.CompareSoundsLike( lTestLine2 );

  Assert.AreEqual( lExpected, lResult );

 

  // This is an example of a truncation, so will get a poor match

  lTestLine1 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto (SSO Concert).mp3";

  lTestLine2 = "Lovelock - Trumpet Concerto.mp3";

  lExpected  = 3237/(36.0 + 26.0); // = 52.2

  lResult= lTestLine1.CompareSoundsLike( lTestLine2 );

  Assert.AreEqual( lExpected, lResult );

 

  // This will get a match on William and a little else...

  lTestLine1 = "Trumpet Conce

RE: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?

[ILT (O)]

Bec - have you looked at the (prior) email headers from this person? That will 
tell you what email client is normally used, and some other intermediate server 
information. 

I have just tested this, and It’s possible for (for example) using Outlook 
desktop versions to copy or move items to and from the Sent Items folder. 



Without looking at the sender’s emailer, and forensically examining the headers 
- Sent, Received, Created dates (etc) - you’re not going to win an argument 
though, I reckon. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:57 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?

 

Haha thanks guys but this case is quite suspicious. It was sent over two weeks 
ago and it just happens the most important email is the only one which didn't 
arrive. All others arrived. I'm not buying it. :-) Is it possible to achieve 
this by tampering with the mail server settings or some other way?

 

Noonie- I've not been able to replicate this by dragging into the sent folder 
in gmail. Perhaps Outlook will do it but that would be quite dodgy.

 

Cheers

 

 

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Stephen Price  
wrote:

I always marvel at how people use email for business. As if it were guaranteed 
delivery. The technology has been around longer than the internet and I'd not 
be surprised if its not been changed in all that time. I'd like to hope it has 
but not looked into it. Might put that on my weekend reading list. Right after 
a few marvel comics. :)

On Nov 28, 2014 4:12 PM, "noonie"  wrote:

Bec,

The mail client might let you drag an email into sent items.

Email is not guaranteed to be delivered. That's not part of the spec (though 
you might be able to interpret it that way).

So they could have sent it and you still might receive it next week, or never...

Isn't that just peachy?

-- 
Regards,
noonie

On 28/11/2014 5:17 pm, "Bec Carter"  wrote:

Sorry everyone but this one is way way off topic.

 

Someone claims to have sent me an email. I never received it- yes I checked the 
Junk folder :-)

They've shown me their mailbox and its sitting in the Sent folder.

 

Can someone with control of their web domain send an email, have it pop into 
the Sent items folder but not actually send? Say by somehow turning off (or 
providing a faulty) outgoing mail server setting or similar?

 

Cheers

 

RE: VS2013 Windows Phone project

[ILT (O)]

Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a  few people have used 
the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the 
VS2012 Express version is suitable. 
I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 8 
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx>  
- possibly the topic about requirements for the emulator 
  is 
what you needed to see first, though. 
I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few 
months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is 
called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, here 
<http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us> . 

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project

Hi Ian (and Stephen),

No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work.
In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in
Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots
of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it
was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS
project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for
something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg*

On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O)  wrote:

> Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013?
>
>
> --
>
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project
>
>
>
> Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've
> never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a
> bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I
> have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0
> and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should
> just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg
> K*
>

RE: VS2013 Windows Phone project

[ILT (O)]

Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: VS2013 Windows Phone project

 

Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've never 
done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a bad start. 
VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I have installed 
all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 and v8.1 folders 
under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should just be able to 
select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- Greg K

RE: vs2013 community edition performance

[ILT (O)]

20% discounts on Xamarin still mean AUD1000 minimum per year. I haven’t heard a 
“Microsoft to buy Xamarin” rumour since March this year, but Telerik was 
recently acquired by Progress Software (I have their Stylus Studio XML 
editor-designer suite, otherwise “who are they?”). Things happen.

Does Xamarin still have a strong involvement with Mono development? 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:06 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: vs2013 community edition performance

 

as well as Xamarin (free version) will work in Visual Studio. 

 

I also received this broadcast and noticed the vague but enticing announcement 
about cross platform mobile development. But ... I'm sure it's all dependent 
upon Xamarin, and I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the "professional" 
version costs about $1000/year and has a 30 day crippled evaluation. So what 
would we get in the "free" Xamarin in Visual Studio 2015? -- Greg

RE: vs2013 community edition performance

[ILT (O)]

There is an amazing number of solutions to the slowness problem in that SO 
article - all of them verified by at last one other person. Had to smile at the 
remark about “low-quality answers [posts]” at the end – I thought all responses 
were informative. 

However, none of the responses seem to refer to the community edition. Maybe 
there are additional issues, not in that SO article? 

I should say I still use VS2010 and VS2012, not VS2013 editions.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Wallace Turner
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:53 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: vs2013 community edition performance

 

I was very pleased to learn about the 2013 community edition which was 
announced yesterday - the main reason because it supports resharper which I 
need.

 

However since installing it I've found the performance of opening/closing files 
and switching files to be woefully slow. Its like click...wait wait wait, yes 
now its open. it is very hard to work with it like this and have reverted to 
2012.

 

I've tried every single suggestion on this related stackoverflow post[1] 
however none improves it! I've also tried uninstalling resharper, dotcover, 
dotTrace etc with no success.

 

Does anyone have a similar experience?

 

 

 

[1]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19617670/why-vs-2013-is-very-slow

RE: SQLite déjà vu again

[ILT (O)]

Greg, there is an article on the Red Gate / Simple-Talk website that you may be 
interested to read  – 

Does NoSQL = NoDBA?

https://www.simple-talk.com/opinion/opinion-pieces/does-nosql--nodba 

In passing, the author mentions a number of other NoSQL database systems - 
MongoDB, CouchDB, Cassandra, Riak, Voldemort. 

What interested me was the discussion of the CAP Theorem (in the context of 
distributed systems, Big Data) and “eventual consistency” of NoSQL queries, 
versus the enforced consistency of relational databases.  

>From my reading, the absence of (a wider range of) typed data fields for NoSQL 
>databases is probably because of their irrelevance  - and the absence of GUID 
>fields is of no concern in the context of their principal use cases. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:35 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: SQLite déjà vu again

 

Well, it's not all hugs and puppies, as BrightstarDB failed my very first test 
to use it in a real application. Its Entity Framework like layer does not 
support Guid properties. This is utterly inconceivable and unexpected, and it 
renders the library completely useless to me. I have posted into their forum 
suggesting that adding unconditional support for Guids must be of the highest 
priority -- Greg K

 

On 31 October 2014 18:36, Greg Keogh  wrote:

 

 

On 30 October 2014 19:19,  wrote:

BrightstarDB - http://brightstardb.com/ may be of interest…

 

After fiddling with this for half an hour I'm starting to think this product is 
a work of art! It's pleasing to discover a managed product that is well 
thought-out, elegantly layered, (quite) well documented, well tooled, 
uncluttered, and free. I had the samples working in minutes without a glitch, 
and most importantly they worked in a really familiar style.

 

You can work with two lower levels of API or at the higher "entity" level. They 
have VS templates to add interfaces from which a T4 template will generate 
EF-like entities. In fact they've mimicked EF with amazing fidelity, even 
relationship collections. It's weird to find a NoSql database that supports 
"joins". I don't know yet how much of EF's IQueryable behaviour they've 
reproduced. They foolishly seem to have created their own query language called 
SPARQL.

 

I'm going to investigate BrightstarDB in much more detail and I'll report any 
startling news. Anyone else here using it?

 

Greg K

 

 

 

RE: Validation

[ILT (O)]

The DataAnnotations namespace is extensive. I haven’t explored how to make use 
of its many classes.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 5:03 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Validation

 

There is a similar usage of DataAnnotations described in an article at 
CodeProject - 
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/256183/DataAnnotations-Validation-for-Beginner
 

 

Ta, I eventually stumbled on that one too. For ages I couldn't find anything 
that actually used the attributes and I thought they might be only used 
internally for DB entities. But I finally found the Validator class (which has 
a rather strange class!). I made a custom validation attribute and it works 
pleasantly -- Greg

RE: Validation

[ILT (O)]

There is a similar usage of DataAnnotations described in an article at 
CodeProject - 
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/256183/DataAnnotations-Validation-for-Beginner
 

I’ve found this method useful (initially discovered at MSDN Library here 
 ). 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Validation

 

Finally found a way of using the DataAnnotations. This guy 
  points out 
the Validator 

  class static methods. The code is a bit weird through, as you make a context 
with the thing to validate, then you call Validate on the thing, passing the 
context, so you give it the thing twice. You can derive from 
ValidationAttribute and make your own rules. The context is used to pass extra 
information to the validation processing, so you could put multiple things in a 
dictionary and validate them against each other. This suits my needs for now -- 
Greg

 

On 7 October 2014 15:14, Greg Keogh  wrote:

Using the Framework classes, is there is neat and easy way of annotating 
properties of a class with validation rules and then validating the rules to 
get the error(s)?

 

I ask because the DataAnnotations 

  namespace has dozens of attributes for defining the rules and data format of 
properties, but I can't find anything that then processes the rules to give you 
results. I get the impression these attributes are just for code-first.

 

I can also implement IDataErrorInfo 

  but it seems designed for use in UI binding and again I can't find who 
actually runs the validation.

 

I just wanted to annotate a class with rules and then process then when I want 
with minimum effort, independent of the environment. Is there some trick I'm 
missing?

 

Greg K

 

RE: MSI failures

[ILT (O)]

Greg K and others who might be interested - 

Oleg Shilo’s WixSharp / Wix# recently has been given a new feature, documented 
well with a CodeProject article. 

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/804584/Wixsharp-WixSharp-UI-Extensions 

“Wix# (WixSharp) UI Extensions”

Taken from the most recent article: 

Wix# was first released and described in this CodeProject article: Wix# 
(WixSharp) - managed interface for WiX 

 .  

Wix# answers many MSI authoring challenges. It solves the common MSI/WiX 
authoring limitations in a very elegant and yet unorthodox way. Wix# follows 
the steps of other transcompilers like Script#, CoffeeScript or GWT by using 
source code of a more manageable syntax (C# in this case) to produce the 
desired source code of a less manageable syntax (WiX). A "more manageable 
syntax" in this context means less verbose and more readable code, better 
compile-time error checking and availability of more advanced tools.

Also Wix# removes necessity to develop MSI sub-modules (Custom Actions) in the 
completely different language (e.g. C++) by allowing both the components and 
behavior to be defined in the same language (C#). This also allows homogeneous, 
simplified and more consistent source code structure. 

Despite of all this there is one category of the setup authoring problems that 
Wix# didn't address so far: MSI custom UI.

The current article by Oleg Shilo in CodeProject addresses the remaining 
problem, using two approaches to UI. Both are described in the article, but 
this quote begins an explanation of the external UI approach – 

(it is) possible to implement fully isolated, self sufficient UI (with no MSI 
dependency) and "connect" it at runtime to the MSI engine running your MSI file.

I’ll leave you to read the article and test the code, and the efficacy of 
WixSharp, for yourself/selves.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 10:13 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: MSI failures

 

This is just a heads-up and I'm recording my own thoughts.

 

I mentioned several weeks ago that setup projects (vdproj) support can return 
to VS2013 via the Installer Projects Extension 

 . I was most pleased by this and have resurrected many setup projects and have 
been using them successfully ... until I tried them on Windows XP and Server 
2003, which results in "The installer was interrupted" failure on the first 
wizard step.

 

Examining an msiexec log shows "DIRCA_CheckFX return value 3". Ensuring that 
Framework 4 and Installer 4.5 are present makes no difference. Extensive web 
searches reveal no useful advice, but there are a few hints that it's a bug in 
the setup project templates (which I think is feasible!).

 

I used orca to disable the failing conditions inside the MSI's sequence tables 
and it got the wizard through to the 3rd wizard step, but then I received some 
weird entry point failure in InstallUtil. At this point I officially gave up.

 

So I remain confused about the exact cause of this problem, or the cure: is it 
the old operating systems, some dependency, or a bug in the setup templates. 
Uh?! Maybe I should consider migrating permanently to WiX, which I'll do if I 
can find a nice GUI over it so I don't have to write XML by hand.

 

Greg K

 

P.S. Setup project generated web installers require IIS 6 metabase 
compatibility on if you're using IIS 7. This didn't wasn't relevant to my 
situation above, but it was worth mentioning as lots of people have stumbled 
over this subtle dependency when the installation fails with the same unhelpful 
"interrupted" failure.

RE: MSI failures

[ILT (O)]

I haven’t used WiX for ages, but I think it does have come code tools and 
integrates into Visual Studio. Its project location is on CodePlex these days 
http://wix.codeplex.com/ 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 10:13 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: MSI failures

 

This is just a heads-up and I'm recording my own thoughts.

 

I mentioned several weeks ago that setup projects (vdproj) support can return 
to VS2013 via the Installer Projects Extension 

 . I was most pleased by this and have resurrected many setup projects and have 
been using them successfully ... until I tried them on Windows XP and Server 
2003, which results in "The installer was interrupted" failure on the first 
wizard step.

 

Examining an msiexec log shows "DIRCA_CheckFX return value 3". Ensuring that 
Framework 4 and Installer 4.5 are present makes no difference. Extensive web 
searches reveal no useful advice, but there are a few hints that it's a bug in 
the setup project templates (which I think is feasible!).

 

I used orca to disable the failing conditions inside the MSI's sequence tables 
and it got the wizard through to the 3rd wizard step, but then I received some 
weird entry point failure in InstallUtil. At this point I officially gave up.

 

So I remain confused about the exact cause of this problem, or the cure: is it 
the old operating systems, some dependency, or a bug in the setup templates. 
Uh?! Maybe I should consider migrating permanently to WiX, which I'll do if I 
can find a nice GUI over it so I don't have to write XML by hand.

 

Greg K

 

P.S. Setup project generated web installers require IIS 6 metabase 
compatibility on if you're using IIS 7. This didn't wasn't relevant to my 
situation above, but it was worth mentioning as lots of people have stumbled 
over this subtle dependency when the installation fails with the same unhelpful 
"interrupted" failure.

OzDotnet problem or my Outlook problem?

[ILT (O)]

Has anyone had this today? 

I just received 2 list emails from "nobody", dated today - which is the
exact content of one that I sent myself in late March this year. 



Either my desktop Outlook 2010 has screwed up indexes, or something's wrong
at the OzDotnet email server. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

Developing for multiple Windows versions

[ILT (O)]

I've been reading some of the opinions from pundits in the IT press, such as
Mary Jo Foley [1
 ]. In this quote, she's discussing the next
Windows OS - assumed to be for 3 distinct platforms: desktop/laptop, 2-in-1
devices like Surface Pro, and tablet/phone. "Threshold" or Windows 9 are
used interchangeably for the next Windows release after 8.1.1. 

The Threshold OS will look and work differently based on hardware type.

Users running Threshold on a desktop/laptop will get a SKU, or version, that
puts the Windows Desktop (for running Win32/legacy apps) front and center.
Two-in-one devices, like the Lenovo Yoga or Surface Pro, will support
switching between the Metro-Style mode and the Windowed mode, based on
whether or not keyboards are connected or disconnected.

The combined Phone/Tablet SKU of Threshold won't have a Desktop environment
at all, but still will support apps running side by side, my sources are
reconfirming. This "Threshold Mobile" SKU will work on ARM-based Windows
Phones (not just Lumias), ARM-based Windows tablets and, I believe,
Intel-Atom-based tablets.

One of Microsoft's primary missions with Threshold is to try to undo the
usability mistakes made with Windows 8 for those who prefer and/or are stuck
with devices that are not touch-first and for which keyboard/mouse use is of
central importance.

A sensible enough vision, if true - certainly it is more palatable from a
user's point of view (there are numerous articles that point out that
desktop / tablet / phone devices are used differently, for different
purposes - by the same individual, who may be predisposed towards on or
other platform).

And I think this insight or "realisation" by Microsoft (if that is what it
is, as MJF and other media pundits like to say) may permit developers to
focus more clearly on applications appropriate to these reasonably distinct
Windows platforms. 

The Mary Jo Foley article is short, and of course has to throw in some of
the attention-getting criticisms (Vista, start menu, etc) but this and other
articles bring into focus some of the issues that forthcoming APIs need to
address to bring this vision to reality.  

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: Optus to sell Office365

[ILT (O)]

Greg, I agree. Peripheral to the Office365 matter, I would like to see
Microsoft with a more prominent "marketing presence" than has been so in the
last many years. But not to the extent and manner of Apple Stores and the
Genius Bar.

Perhaps the 3-year deal with Telstra hinged on Telstra's large commitment to
'cloud' in Australia, a platform which did require some selling - as did
software as a service. I know the SBIT Pro group members were annoyed at the
Telstra-only model, and I don't think the addition of Optus would ameliorate
that irritation. 

It was interesting to note the 1Tb cloud storage trumped by Google
announcing 'unlimited'. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:41 AM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: RE: Optus to sell Office365

 

I don't want to see it forced through any reseller. I just want to have the
option to deal directly with Microsoft. Other people in the loop just
complicate support for me. I can do that with Google and with any number of
other global providers, so why not Microsoft?

 

If I was running a milk bar or a cafe, I might feel differently. 

 

Both options should be available (ie: dealing with a partner if you need
that type of help, or not dealing with one if you don't need that type of
help). And partners that push the products should be part of the ongoing
return on the products. I used to like the model that some companies used
when ADSL first appeared. Customers could deal directly with them if they
wanted. Partners could be involved in getting people signed up, and if they
did, they were part of the revenue stream from that point on (indefinitely
in relation to those connections).

 

Bottom line is that I shouldn't be penalised for being based in Australia.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax


SQL Down Under | Web:  <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of ILT (O)
Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 7:56 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Optus to sell Office365

 

I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia have been
p!ssed off with O365 sales being Telstra-controlled for so long, so this
<http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/cloud/optus-gearing-up-to-fight-telstra-on-mic
rosoft-365-turf-20140623-zse9x.html>  announcement (SMH, today) is good
news. 


Optus gearing up to fight Telstra on Microsoft 365 turf 


Optus is preparing to tread on Telstra's turf in the cloud computing market
after securing a long overdue partnership with Microsoft. 

There's more interesting information in that SMH IT Pro article.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

Optus to sell Office365

[ILT (O)]

I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia have been
p!ssed off with O365 sales being Telstra-controlled for so long, so this
  announcement (SMH, today) is good
news. 


Optus gearing up to fight Telstra on Microsoft 365 turf 


Optus is preparing to tread on Telstra's turf in the cloud computing market
after securing a long overdue partnership with Microsoft. 

There's more interesting information in that SMH IT Pro article.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

[ILT (O)]

Now at $722 incl GST from NetPlus in Perth. 

Samsung U28D590DS/XY 28 

 " UHD

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:54 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

DSE has them in stock for $699 
(http://www.dicksmith.com.au/computer-monitors/samsung-28-uhd590-monitor-dsau-xc9312)

Just got one off JW.com.au 
(http://www.jw.com.au/samsung-u28d590ds-28-ultrahd-1ms-4k-monitor-p-54326)

who did a price match

My laptop will not drive the full resolution, but it is worthwhile anyway...

 

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Stephen Price  
wrote:

Just an update on this new Samsung 4k monitor (U28D590D), I used it in 
2560x1440 for a while due to the fonts looking blurry and not being used to the 
small fonts. Few days ago, I tried it back in its native res and started 
getting used to it. I usually RDP to my laptop and spend most of my time there 
(which is where I was getting blurryness in Visual Studio). While RDP'ing to 
another laptop, I suddenly realised the fonts were crisp. That machine was on 
ethernet not wifi, comparing them side by side, the laptop on wifi was 
definitely blurry in comparison. Turned on the setting to force it to think it 
was on a LAN connection and reconnected. It's now crisp like the other machine. 

 

A lot happier now. (if somewhat sheepish it took me so long to twig what was 
going on). :)

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Stephen Price  
wrote:

Or... buy two monitors!

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a happier 
developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime earnings. I 
say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.

 

Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- Greg

 

 

 

RE: Global References

[ILT (O)]

Wouldn't you create a new project template (web site or web project), as you
would do for a new desktop (WinForms) template? 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/ms185291(v=vs.100).aspx 

then use that subsequently .

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

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On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:07 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: Global References

 

Is it possible in c# web projects to have a global using ms.system.lib
instead of adding this to every page?

 

 

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RE: [OT] Browser use

[ILT (O)]

GregL - I thought I saw, 2-3 weeks/months ago? - that IE11 can be put into Edge 
Mode (IE8)  – but of course that requires your visitors to be aware of that.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:33 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Browser use

 

I never thought I’d change my default browser but I had to do so with IE11. 
Moved to using Chrome as a default. I eventually I got to a point where I just 
had to get things done and whether or not Microsoft believe they did the right 
thing by removing the agent string entries, they “broke the internet” for too 
many people.

 

I don’t think they understood the politics of this. If someone is browsing ok, 
and updates to IE11 and then so many sites don’t work, they won’t blame the 
sites, they’ll blame what they just updated.

 

There were lots of Microsoft’s own properties that wouldn’t work with IE11.

 

You can’t even lodge a BAS return here in Australia with IE11 and if you talk 
to the ATO, they just say “Use Chrome”.

 

Wish it wasn’t so.

 

Last month was the first month where I noted more Chrome use than IE use at our 
web  site, and we’re a Microsoft related site. That’s a big change for us from 
6 months ago. It used to be an IE majority for us.

 

Apart from the lack of compatibility with so many existing sites, I quite like 
many things about IE11. I just can’t get work done when it’s my default browser.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:   www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:23 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Browser use

 

Just want to spread my use of technology amongst many companies instead of a 
few…it also inspires competition and innovation.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 1:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Browser use

 

So you would rather support a small non powerful company that uses your data 
any way they want? 

 

The underdog so to speak? 

 

Personally, I'd rather use the browser that does everything I want it to and 
none of the things I don't. Targeted advertising? Sure I want that. I *WANT* to 
see ads for the latest and greatest Tablet or Monitor. I *don't* want to see 
tampon ads. Sign me up. Shut up and take my money!

 

If said company becomes an issue, I'll change. I'm a fickle customer, more so 
than they are. I'm using them more than they are using me. 

 

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM,  wrote:

I use Firefox, Chrome is great but I do not want to support a company that is 
so powerful and use your data what ever way they want.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:06 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Browser use

 

I am pretty much with you. I find IE works better with VS so use it for most 
development unless I need to do a lot of client side debugging in which case I 
use Chrome. I then use Chrome for everyday use. I only use Firefox for cross 
browser testing.

 

Craig

 

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Price  
wrote:

I disagree. I think? 

 

I find I use Chrome and IE. For development it depends what I'm doing. If I 
want to hit a breakpoint in VS then IE does that. If I want to use the debugger 
in the browser then I use Chrome. IE keeps changing their Developer tools and 
even though they are improving I still find Chrome more productive for 
debugging. 

 

For actual USE I use Chrome for most things but occasionally something doesn't 
work right and I switch. Pluralsite for example seems to hang after a while in 
Chrome. No issues in IE. 

Not used Firefox in some years. Toggling between two is fine. A third becomes 
too much.

 

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Burstin  wrote:

I was using Firefox on some machines, but recently moved to Chrome as a 
political statement, not because I love Google but rather because I wanted to 
show my dissatisfaction with Firefox's political correctness/censorship 

 . (And in case you were wondering, I do support marriage equality but even 
more than that I support peoples right to disagree with me. Agree?)

 

On 22 May 2014 11:43, Bec Carter  wrote:

This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other than 
Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test sites across 
different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome and just find it 
nicer than Safari 

RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

[ILT (O)]

This N-Trig page shows which Windows devices use their gear: 
http://www.n-trig.com/Content.aspx?Page=Windows8 

Anecdotally (sample size: 3) there have been driver problems. I also see some 
chatter on the web.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

N-Trig’s traditionally had a bad rap. I think the Sony Vaio Flip is the only 
mainstream laptop that uses their latest tech DuoSense 2. Dunno if the Surface 
3 will have something newer/better, or DuoSense 2.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

Don't really like the  batteries, my Dell Venue 8 has a pen that takes that 
and it only lasted 3 months. They were also *REALLY* hard to find a place that 
sell them and they don't have rechargables. At least I know where to get them 
so will buy a stack of them. I hope they didn't change from Wacom just for 
politics or whatever. ie a real reason to do so feature wise. I couldn't find 
anything about them tho. Anyone got any info on what N-Trig has over Wacom?

 

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM, ILT (O)  wrote:

Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices, Windows 
laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).

 


  _  


Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM


To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

  _  

From: Stephen Price <mailto:step...@perthprojects.com> 
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNet <mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> 
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.  

 

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker  wrote:

Do you need some enabling?  

 

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for coding/etc.

 

On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price  wrote:

Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has 
them in stock.  

http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the impulse 
buy as long as I can... :)

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker  wrote:

Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released? 

 

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

[ILT (O)]

Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices, Windows 
laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

  _  

From: Stephen Price  
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNet  
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.  

 

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker  wrote:

Do you need some enabling?  

 

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for coding/etc.

 

On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price  wrote:

Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has 
them in stock.  

http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the impulse 
buy as long as I can... :)

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker  wrote:

Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released? 

 

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Spreadsheets and data

[ILT (O)]

Stephen, there are at least 2 (not-free, expensive) .NET libraries that do a
good job of being a spreadsheet, but I don't know if either can simply scan
an existing Excel spreadsheet ecosystem or even a simple XLS or XLSX file to
make it into an application. 

For your simple description, it may well be that there is a Codeplex project
does those straight-forward non-recursive operations, perhaps with a few
simple Excel-like functions. I would doubt that such a project or code
library would handle anything more like most businesses' use of Excel. 

Unless you want to make a VSTO application? 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:03 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Spreadsheets and data

 

Hey all,

 

Wondering if anyone has taken a spreadsheet and turned it into an app
before? 

 

This spreadsheet has lots of data that used the previous row to calculate
the new row's data (as spreadsheets often do). Was wondering how the best
way to duplicate that functionality in a .Net app with classes/database.

 

Possible ways I've thought of; 

1. Class that calculates on the fly the desired row/year of data each time
it needs it.

 

2. The spreadsheet takes some starting values and the applies a formula to
each row, could do the same thing in memory in a lookup dictionary or
similar so it only needs to be done once. 

 

3. Alternatively put that data into tables in database... downside, if the
initial value is changed it would have to find and modify the appropriate
rows in the database. 

 

other ways?

 

cheers,

Stephen

 

 

RE: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

[ILT (O)]

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/530926/new_supercomputer_uses_ssds_alternative_dram_hard_drives/
 

Although this is a “consumer-grade” IT press article from ComputerWorld, it 
indicates to me that SSDs are now more than a throw-away consumable. 

As Ken suggests, if almost all laptops (and all tablets) are supplied with 
solid state drives, and we’re not hearing alarmist reports (like the “Li 
batteries catching fire” news of a couple of years ago), then we should be able 
to choose an SSD with a reliable reputation. Intel? 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:08 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 4:55 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

 

After reading some technical stuff on SSDs several weeks ago and how they work 
and wear-levelling and the like I became a bit worried and moved the swap file 
to a HDD in an attempt to cut down the writes. It's actually a bit worrying how 
SSDs work when you look into them.

 

 

Whilst the idea of a really fast swap file is nice, the implementation of SSD's 
suggest that its a bad combo.  Unless you do something like use a dedicated SSD 
for the swap drive, and eat the cost when it dies.  I'm still a bit wary about 
the integrity of 'dirty' data on the swap file getting written thru to a 
magnetic drive.  Thoughts?

 

 

Just about every laptop sold today is SSD only – no option to put the swap file 
on a mechanical drive, and there doesn’t seem to be widespread reports of mass 
failure of laptop drives. As I mentioned in the previous post (and you can 
check on the main tech forums like AnandTech etc.), current generation SSDs 
seem capable of many terabytes of writes.

 

Cheers

Ken

RE: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

[ILT (O)]

SandForce is not SanDisk (SanForce has been acquired by LSI, anyway). I’m not 
sure who manufactured for SandForce – they are described as a fabless 
manufacturing   
company. (that’s not fabulous J )

Look them up on Wikipedia. 

I don’t know where the components for your particular SanDisk SSD were made.

It is interesting that the latest supercomputers, just funded by US government 
bodies, have been designed to use massive amounts of RAM (SSD) rather than an 
ever-increasing CPU count.

It seems to indicate that there are SSDs and SSDs (and probably, controllers). 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:16 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

 

Chaps, it's a SanDisk 240MB, which is suspicious regarding your comments! I 
just went up to MSY and got a replacement, a Kingston this time, not another 
SanDisk.

 

The shop guy said they'll send the SSD back to be analysed and either repaired 
or replaced. I told him it was my C: drive so I'll have to reinstall before I 
can give him the old one.

 

After reading some technical stuff on SSDs several weeks ago and how they work 
and wear-levelling and the like I became a bit worried and moved the swap file 
to a HDD in an attempt to cut down the writes. It's actually a bit worrying how 
SSDs work when you look into them.

 

If the C: drive can stay on life support until the weekend I'll be happy. 
Luckily the main work I'm on at the moment is inside a VM on a HDD D: drive.

 

Greg

 

On 25 March 2014 14:50,  wrote:

My guess is a drive based on a SandForce controller. 

 

You’ve described the symptoms I had before my SandForce SDD died a couple of 
years ago. I was going to replace it with a newer SandForce drive until I 
Googled a bit and then opted to go with an Intel 510 which used a Marvell 
controller and have had no problems with it.

 

I’d back up everything you want to keep that is on that drive ASAP.


Ben

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 11:26 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

 

Hi Greg,

 

Always horrible to hear that. What sort of drive was it?

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:   www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 2:00 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD

 

Folks, I have a warning post:

 

Since I installed a fresh Windows 7 on an SSD as Xmas I've been suspicious of 
how one time in 20 it will stop and say "Bad boot drive" and I have to power 
off and on again and then it always starts okay. No other symptoms have been 
observed.

 

Well today, I was shutting down my PC when it blue screened on the way down, it 
said SERVICE_EXCEPTION. Just to be safe I rebooted it normally to check it was 
okay.

 

First problem. IE 32-bit shortcut says it's invalid, but I can see the 
iexplore.exe in the correct place. Double-clicking it does nothing. The 64-bit 
iexplore.exe tells me "The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable." Then 
I notice most of my Start menu All Programs are gone. The Administrative Tools 
menu is empty. I searched for an hour but none of the advice is relevant or 
useful. Last known good config recover did nothing. I even thought I had a 
virus, but found no evidence.

 

Finally I did a chkdsk C: /F and rebooted and I saw about 20 repairs (including 
iexplore.exe) and now it seems to be back to normal. However I suspect the SSD 
is about to die unpredictably and all of my mysterious symptoms were side 
effects. I'm just posting this in case it might be useful for someone in a 
similar situation.

 

Now I'm going to the shops to get a new SSD and psych myself up for a possible 
Windows reinstall over the whole weekend. At Xmas it took 4 x 12 hour days to 
get to a satisfactory working state.

 

Greg K


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RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

[ILT (O)]

OK, I'm way off-topic here with the WP tangent anyway. What I did find
lately was a WP8 [1] and Windows 8 / Windows RT [2] password management
application written by Ginny Caughey, called Password Padlock (there's also
another of that same name, written by a NZ dev). 

 

[1
<http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/password-padlock/edbf1d8f-7ad5-
df11-a844-00237de2db9e> ]  [2
<http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en/app/password-padlock/de8a7dc4-beb3-4d4
d-8b00-def5cc6a1182/m/ROW> ] 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 10:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Ian 

I use Password Safe on Windows 8 but not on a phone, and you are right they
don't seem interested in a WP8 version. Sorry, I've not seen any comparisons
between PWSafe and others. I've been using PWSafe since its very early
versions and never bothered looking elsewhere.

G

 

On 24 March 2014 11:23, ILT (O)  wrote:

Grant, re Password Safe (etc) - I was using RoboForm on $9.95 a year and
they have just released a version for Windows Phone 8, but I have let it
lapse. I would rather back up my pw database to OneDrive than have RoboForm
manage it at their site, for some reason.

Have you see any comparison of Password Safe with RoboForm? 

It seems the Password Safe Sourceforge dev project isn't interested in a WP8
version. I would like to use the same application across the different
platforms.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:08 AM


To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Or, just use Schneier's Password Safe program and let it generate all your
passwords for you. I've been using it for years and I swear by it. I have
hundreds of passwords stored in it's files and they're all long and very
complex.

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/

 

On 22 March 2014 16:08, Greg Keogh  wrote:

Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletter
<https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1403.html>  there is a section at the
end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is
to this interesting and frightening article:

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of
-your-passwords/

 

The hashes in this cracking test were made with plain old MD5, but even
ignoring that, it's a sobering reminder of the progress in guessing and
cracking hashed passwords. I was surprised to learn that salting the hashes
doesn't offer much defence. I was amazed that they were using GPUs for
hashing and a graph shows that they're faster than CPUs ... is that
possible? After this I think the lessons are:

 

* Schneier suggests you make passwords out of pieces of words and sentences
to avoid predictable formats.

* Use a more recent and computationally intensive hasher.

* Don't let anyone steal your hashes.

* Don't store the whole hash (I learned in Russinovich's book that msv1_0
<http://dll.paretologic.com/detail.php/msv1_0> .dll only stores half a
user's hash in the registry).

 

Greg K

 

 

RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

[ILT (O)]

Nathan, I had never considered Keepass though have seen it discussed etc for
years. I have often used TrueCrypt USB 'disks' (sticks) when travelling, I
guess what you're doing with a TrueCrypt file on Dropbox is much the same. I
would like to see this a bit more automatic as a backup for password
database, though. 

 

Is anyone using 7Pass? (The WP7 version of Keepass, for which it seems v3.6
is OK for WP7.8 and WP8 - ?)

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:29 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

I used to use Password Safe and there's a pretty good .Net implementation of
the password store reader on CodeProject
<http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/20892/Password-Safe-Database-Reader-Lib
rary-in-C-for-NET>  if you want to extend its usefulness yourself.

 

That said, I now use Keepass and have no regrets: http://keepass.info/

 

It's also open source but has a much more active dev community around it
than SPS, the downloads page has ports to virtually any platform you could
possibly want, and there's a well-designed plugin system which lets you do
things like near transparently replace the Firefox or Chrome saved password
functionality with Keepass. I run a portable instance in a TrueCrypt disk
saved on Dropbox so I have online sync without the usual concerns.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of ILT (O)
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 12:23 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Grant, re Password Safe (etc) - I was using RoboForm on $9.95 a year and
they have just released a version for Windows Phone 8, but I have let it
lapse. I would rather back up my pw database to OneDrive than have RoboForm
manage it at their site, for some reason.

Have you see any comparison of Password Safe with RoboForm? 

It seems the Password Safe Sourceforge dev project isn't interested in a WP8
version. I would like to use the same application across the different
platforms.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:08 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Or, just use Schneier's Password Safe program and let it generate all your
passwords for you. I've been using it for years and I swear by it. I have
hundreds of passwords stored in it's files and they're all long and very
complex.

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/

 

On 22 March 2014 16:08, Greg Keogh  wrote:

Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletter
<https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1403.html>  there is a section at the
end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is
to this interesting and frightening article:

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of
-your-passwords/

 

The hashes in this cracking test were made with plain old MD5, but even
ignoring that, it's a sobering reminder of the progress in guessing and
cracking hashed passwords. I was surprised to learn that salting the hashes
doesn't offer much defence. I was amazed that they were using GPUs for
hashing and a graph shows that they're faster than CPUs ... is that
possible? After this I think the lessons are:

 

* Schneier suggests you make passwords out of pieces of words and sentences
to avoid predictable formats.

* Use a more recent and computationally intensive hasher.

* Don't let anyone steal your hashes.

* Don't store the whole hash (I learned in Russinovich's book that msv1_0
<http://dll.paretologic.com/detail.php/msv1_0> .dll only stores half a
user's hash in the registry).

 

Greg K

 

 

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RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

[ILT (O)]

Greg, did you follow up on the (promised) article in arstechnica on how to
do it properly? I couldn't find one .

The closest relevant advice (for users) was to use a password minder, but I
guess that doesn't help if the visited passworded websites store unsafely. 

(I see that iiNet pops up a warning when customers have unsafe passwords,
and offer to generate a better on using their online tool. I would assume
quite a few subscribers to this list work for enterprises that use the
better methodologies)

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:09 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletter
  there is a section at the
end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is
to this interesting and frightening article:

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of
-your-passwords/

 

The hashes in this cracking test were made with plain old MD5, but even
ignoring that, it's a sobering reminder of the progress in guessing and
cracking hashed passwords. I was surprised to learn that salting the hashes
doesn't offer much defence. I was amazed that they were using GPUs for
hashing and a graph shows that they're faster than CPUs ... is that
possible? After this I think the lessons are:

 

* Schneier suggests you make passwords out of pieces of words and sentences
to avoid predictable formats.

* Use a more recent and computationally intensive hasher.

* Don't let anyone steal your hashes.

* Don't store the whole hash (I learned in Russinovich's book that msv1_0
 .dll only stores half a
user's hash in the registry).

 

Greg K

RE: [OT] Password hash cracking

[ILT (O)]

Grant, re Password Safe (etc) - I was using RoboForm on $9.95 a year and
they have just released a version for Windows Phone 8, but I have let it
lapse. I would rather back up my pw database to OneDrive than have RoboForm
manage it at their site, for some reason.

Have you see any comparison of Password Safe with RoboForm? 

It seems the Password Safe Sourceforge dev project isn't interested in a WP8
version. I would like to use the same application across the different
platforms.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:08 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking

 

Or, just use Schneier's Password Safe program and let it generate all your
passwords for you. I've been using it for years and I swear by it. I have
hundreds of passwords stored in it's files and they're all long and very
complex.

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/

 

On 22 March 2014 16:08, Greg Keogh  wrote:

Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletter
  there is a section at the
end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is
to this interesting and frightening article:

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of
-your-passwords/

 

The hashes in this cracking test were made with plain old MD5, but even
ignoring that, it's a sobering reminder of the progress in guessing and
cracking hashed passwords. I was surprised to learn that salting the hashes
doesn't offer much defence. I was amazed that they were using GPUs for
hashing and a graph shows that they're faster than CPUs ... is that
possible? After this I think the lessons are:

 

* Schneier suggests you make passwords out of pieces of words and sentences
to avoid predictable formats.

* Use a more recent and computationally intensive hasher.

* Don't let anyone steal your hashes.

* Don't store the whole hash (I learned in Russinovich's book that msv1_0
 .dll only stores half a
user's hash in the registry).

 

Greg K

 

RE: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

[ILT (O)]

Mac Pro - $10K? 

I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard some time back that some developers had 
bought MacBook Pro for its hardware, removed the Apple OS and installed Windows 
7. Apocryphal? 

I know a 14yo who uses his mother’s desktop Mac (one of those things that has 
everthing behind its screen) with Parallels – it performed well enough for the 
commercial Windows games he’s allowed to have, but it took a bit of stuffing 
about with DVD drivers as I recall. December 2012.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro

 

Do you mean Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro - that heniously expensive cylinder they're 
releasing? 

 

Apple have a thing called BootCamp that dual boots into Windows, loads all the 
right drivers and so on. 




David Connors
  da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors

 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 wrote:

I remember someone on one of these lists was using it day to day.  Just
concerned about stability, display drivers etc.


|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea
|Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 5:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: Re: OT: Windows on a Mac Pro
|
|I just saw a MacPro running WindowsXP this morning on the train. If that
works ..
|anything will work :)
|
|As long as you can live with the keyboard and with heaps of missing keys
the rest
|should be ok ...
|
|
|On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Bill McCarthy
| wrote:
|
|
|   Hi,
|
|   Any of you guys run windows on a mac pro? What is needed ? Any
issues
|?
|
|   Thanks
|
|
|



 

RE: [OT] TortoiseHG "not under root" error

[ILT (O)]

This, from 2010, indicates that many culprit processes have a similar effect, 
eg Windows indexing and on-access virus checking.

https://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/hgtk/issue/1323/question-mark-overlay-icon-shown-on-folder
  

That seems similar to me, probably never fixed. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:21 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] TortoiseHG "not under root" error

 

Perhaps you have a file open in a viewer? This was a reported error in 2008 
(Sourceforge), no reported fix I could find.

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Windows Phone

  _  

From: Greg Keogh  
Sent: ‎6/‎03/‎2014 14:11
To: ozDotNet  
Subject: [OT] TortoiseHG "not under root" error

If there are any experienced users of TortoiseHG here I'd like to ask them if 
they know of this problem and a way to fix it:

 

Right-clicking a file in the TortoiseHG UI and selecting Add or Forget popups a 
dialog telling me: "Filename not under root Folder".

 

If I use the equivalent context menu from Windows Explorer the commands work 
and refreshing the TortoiseHG UI shows me the changes. Web searches produce no 
useful information on this problem. I have no idea what started this, as I 
haven't run any upgrades or moved folders or done other suspicious things, the 
problem just started one morning a couple of weeks ago. It's driving me barking 
mad.

 

Greg K

RE: [OT] WindowsRT the new Silverlight? and Windows 9 - a triumvirate of products

[ILT (O)]

eer the ship in a direction of aggressive change
management which has backfired. Now the new heads of state have to figure
out how to salvage what they have left into meaningful pieces that can
essentially tap into the above behaviours.

 

The article is right, you have really three options - fade out you core
business (enterprise) and go full retard on consumers adoption, reverse the
namespace/SDK engines and build a bridge between old and new but lose what
small foothold you have on consumers  - or - abandon consumer focus and
retreat back to safety around enterprise/small business.

 

I'd place my money on the 2nd option, bridge building but that's going to be
filled with a lot of apologies and the only way they can even attempt to
make that work is to ramp up their DPE practices beyond where it is today
(that is a lot of people on a lot of planes, apologising and seeding a
new/existing audience with solutions). The head of DPE (former CEO of Skype)
is a business development numbers guy who clearly has no real passion for
DPE, so i don't see how even if they find a way to build that bridge can
make that happen (it's an attitude issue as well as a technical one).

Building a bridge between old and new is not as scary as one would assume
(well i dont anyway), there is a lot of positive work put into the Windows 8
SDK's .. i don't think anyone can say outloud that Microsoft doesn't get
their shit together technically when given the chance, there is and has
always been more positives in their technical abilities than negatives - it
just always always always comes down to the way in which they deliver the
message and react to developer/customer issues of the day.

Is it really a case of just refactoring Windows 8 namepsaces or proxy
classes of some sort to convince Developers to continue on WPF/Silverlight
path? ... Is it a matter of just investing more in that "devigner" tooling
problem (Expression Blend makes a comeback but with less reliance of
"reflection" based property grids).

 

*shrug* .. i can personally see a way they could rebuild and get on with the
Windows 9 approach and I don't think it requires a radical overhaul but more
architectural common sense.

 

 

 




---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com

 

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

I have noticed in a few places discussions comparing the UI and API of WinRT
with Silverlight, and suggesting that it (WinRT) is preferable. Mostly,
these were quite old posts (a series of 6 or more at SharpGIS was my first
sense of this).  

It does raise the possibility that Windows / Microsoft will rebirth or
rethink some technologies. 

Related (in my eyes, anyway), apparently there is a wider discussion about
Windows 9 (based on leaks and conjecture) suggesting that there is to be a
complete rethink of Windows market segments in Windows 9 "Threshold". 

It's summarised here
<http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/cause-hope-windows-8-gets-the-
heave-ho-in-the-next-wave-of-updates-232389>  in InfoWorld (December 2013)
in an article by some bloke named Woody Leonhard. 

He sets the tone in his first sentence:

"If independent leaks are to be believed, Windows chief Terry Myerson
appears to be dismantling the Jekyll-and-Hyde monstrosity that is Windows 8,
instead replacing it with a triumvirate of products
<http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/microsoft-exec-hints-separate-
windows-release-trains-consumers-business-232299>  that people and companies
will actually want."

I'll be interested in Scott's comments on the triumverate of products,
including the quote that refers to Terry Myerson's supposed intentions. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

 

[OT] WindowsRT the new Silverlight? and Windows 9 - a triumvirate of products

[ILT (O)]

I have noticed in a few places discussions comparing the UI and API of WinRT
with Silverlight, and suggesting that it (WinRT) is preferable. Mostly,
these were quite old posts (a series of 6 or more at SharpGIS was my first
sense of this).  

It does raise the possibility that Windows / Microsoft will rebirth or
rethink some technologies. 

Related (in my eyes, anyway), apparently there is a wider discussion about
Windows 9 (based on leaks and conjecture) suggesting that there is to be a
complete rethink of Windows market segments in Windows 9 "Threshold". 

It's summarised here
  in InfoWorld (December 2013)
in an article by some bloke named Woody Leonhard. 

He sets the tone in his first sentence:

"If independent leaks are to be believed, Windows chief Terry Myerson
appears to be dismantling the Jekyll-and-Hyde monstrosity that is Windows 8,
instead replacing it with a triumvirate of products
  that people and companies
will actually want."

I'll be interested in Scott's comments on the triumverate of products,
including the quote that refers to Terry Myerson's supposed intentions. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: [OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

[ILT (O)]

Sorry, Ken - my typo - NationZoom as the subject says - not browserzoom as
in my first line. 

I'll take a look at bleeping and see what's needed with Malwarebytes. Thx

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:24 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

 

I can't find any hits for "browserzoom", but there is a relatively common
piece of malware called Nationzoom. Perhaps that it what your friend has? If
so, Malware Bytes will remove it (according to the instructions at:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-nationzoom.com-browser-
hijacker)

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of ILT (O)
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 3:57 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: [OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

 

As I have lost my access to the SMBiT Professionals email lists, I thought
someone on this one might have an idea of how to remove the browser hijacker
browserzoom. 

 

A friend has the problem - his laptop was infected in India, apparently. I
gather that it is some sort of music downloader, but infects / hijacks
browsers. I'm not sure what browser he has installed on his laptop, though
(perhaps several). 

He has Norton AV on his system, and mentioned some Microsoft utility - but
these don't work / don't detect it (I'm not sure). 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

[OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

[ILT (O)]

As I have lost my access to the SMBiT Professionals email lists, I thought
someone on this one might have an idea of how to remove the browser hijacker
browserzoom. 

 

A friend has the problem - his laptop was infected in India, apparently. I
gather that it is some sort of music downloader, but infects / hijacks
browsers. I'm not sure what browser he has installed on his laptop, though
(perhaps several). 

He has Norton AV on his system, and mentioned some Microsoft utility - but
these don't work / don't detect it (I'm not sure). 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[ILT (O)]

I wasn’t aware that Scott Guthrie had responsibility for Silverlight and XAML 
initially.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:28 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer 
blogosphere)

 

inline  (but not const)

 

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

Silverlight “end-of-life” is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my 
reading (eg, just today – Visual Studio Magazine – “Satya Nadella's To-Do List” 
[link 
<http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/02/11/satya-nadellas-to-do-list.aspx>
 ] – Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of advice to the new CEO, and 
to Scott Guthrie as interim head of Enterprise and Cloud at Microsoft. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:49 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Migrating TFS

 

Greg? Where are you? 

This is your cue.

 

Ah! What! I'm awake ... I saw Silverlight mentioned as dead and abandoned. 
Guess what I've been doing all day today .. expanding a large Silverlight 5 
app. We have no alternative, we've spent years developing the app and it's in 
use by some gigantic companies internationally.

 

 

So is COBOL and FORTRAN

 

What the hell else can we do? Seriously! Discussion here last year pointed out 
that HTML5 is the only alternative to delivering rich apps on the browser 
desktop, but it groans under stress and I was warned that it just can't show 
attractive interactive charts of the type available with the ComponentOne SL 
libraries.

 

 

Hope that MS are feeling nice and release it to SourceForge.

 

Also, I have subscribed to MSDN Magazine (MSJ as it was) since 1993 and I agree 
that it is generally uninteresting these days because it's mostly about 
JavaScript, Stores, Azure, Windows RT and Windows 8 (the latest groovy stuff 
you're talking about). I find I flip through new issues and chuck them aside. I 
like academic articles, but Petzold's and McCaffrey's articles are so abstract 
they're in the twilight zone.

 

 

MSJ - used to be a good magazine.  Matt Pietrek, Paul DiLascia ( "If this code 
works, it was written by Paul DiLascia. If not, I don't know who wrote it".) 
were awesome.  It's a puff piece now.

 

My day to day development experience is consistently as infuriating and 
unpredictable as ever. Projects won't build, IIS goes haywire with code 500s, 
versions clash, dependencies are all over the shop, kits don't work, samples 
are simplistic, designers crash, I'm coding XAML UIs by hand, I have to learn 
WiX, I have to run VS2013 and VS2012 side by side due to COM problems, my 
VS2013 is diseased, and so on. I get up in the morning and the things that 
worked the night before are all on the fritz. Sometimes I miss punch cards.

 

 

Wix, damnable stuff makes your eyes bleed to read it.

 

However, I don't want to fuel the jovial atmosphere of impending doom that 
pervades this forum ;-)

 

Greg





 

-- 
Meski


  <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[ILT (O)]

Silverlight "end-of-life" is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my
reading (eg, just today - Visual Studio Magazine - "Satya Nadella's To-Do
List" [link
 ] - Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of advice to the new
CEO, and to Scott Guthrie as interim head of Enterprise and Cloud at
Microsoft. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:49 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Migrating TFS

 

Greg? Where are you? 

This is your cue.

 

Ah! What! I'm awake ... I saw Silverlight mentioned as dead and abandoned.
Guess what I've been doing all day today .. expanding a large Silverlight 5
app. We have no alternative, we've spent years developing the app and it's
in use by some gigantic companies internationally.

 

What the hell else can we do? Seriously! Discussion here last year pointed
out that HTML5 is the only alternative to delivering rich apps on the
browser desktop, but it groans under stress and I was warned that it just
can't show attractive interactive charts of the type available with the
ComponentOne SL libraries.

 

Also, I have subscribed to MSDN Magazine (MSJ as it was) since 1993 and I
agree that it is generally uninteresting these days because it's mostly
about JavaScript, Stores, Azure, Windows RT and Windows 8 (the latest groovy
stuff you're talking about). I find I flip through new issues and chuck them
aside. I like academic articles, but Petzold's and McCaffrey's articles are
so abstract they're in the twilight zone.

 

My day to day development experience is consistently as infuriating and
unpredictable as ever. Projects won't build, IIS goes haywire with code
500s, versions clash, dependencies are all over the shop, kits don't work,
samples are simplistic, designers crash, I'm coding XAML UIs by hand, I have
to learn WiX, I have to run VS2013 and VS2012 side by side due to COM
problems, my VS2013 is diseased, and so on. I get up in the morning and the
things that worked the night before are all on the fritz. Sometimes I miss
punch cards.

 

However, I don't want to fuel the jovial atmosphere of impending doom that
pervades this forum ;-)

 

Greg

RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

You must have the Lumia 1520 (better screen, SD card, more storage). What 
options did you add to the Dell Venue 8 – keyboard on the 64Gb, I guess – what 
else? 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:29 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

Dell venue 8. 

The Nokia was an impulse buy. I had a 920 for a while but switched to android. 
When I saw the new 6 inch I thought I'd give it another shot. Its improved a 
lot and the screen is really nice. Happy until my next impulse switch 😃

 

Sent from Windows Mail

 

From: ILT (O) <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> 
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎8‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎1‎:‎53‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet <mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> 

 

Stephen, remind me: what is your 8” tablet? And why did you choose the 6” Lumia 
phone (1320), over say the 920/925 or the 1020? 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:09 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

Personally, I don't care what's on my phone. Its all just a mirror of whats in 
the cloud anyway. 

I could destroy my phone (or lose it) and wouldn't lose anything except for the 
device itself. 

 

The whole thing about whats better is all well and good. I like there are 
multiple platforms, it keeps everyone trying. They all get better over time and 
everyone wins. 

Right now i'm 100% Microsoft devices (still have a couple of Android devices 
that are still current but hardly use them). That may well change in the 
future, I won't promise anything. 

 

Friend of mine spec'd up a fancy gaming laptop ($8000 worth) and I said, specs 
sound pretty good but if you spend the $8k now it will be worth $1k in 1 to 2 
years. Which is exciting because it means in a couple of years the power of 
devices will be another leap on what they are. Exciting times. 

 

My favourite device is still my 8" tablet with windows 8.1 on it. So sweet 
being able to carry around a computer not much larger than my phone (remember I 
have a 6" phone lol) that can be plugged into screen and keyboard and function 
like a full PC. It makes me want to squeel with glee. :)

 

 

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>From the earlier link (about 1/3 of the way down)

Notes

*   Your phone will wait for a WiFi connection to automatically save 
backups. If you don't connect to WiFi for a week, any changes to your App list 
and settings will be saved using a mobile data connection.
*   Backup saves the apps on your phone, but it doesn't save any data 
associated with the apps.
*   Start will reset to its default set of pinned Tiles when you restore.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 4:18 PM


To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

Looking further into the WP8 backup, this paints an even worse picture than I’d 
imagined:

 

http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16663_When_is_a_backup_not_a_backup_.php

 

 

 

RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

Stephen, remind me: what is your 8" tablet? And why did you choose the 6"
Lumia phone (1320), over say the 920/925 or the 1020? 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:09 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

Personally, I don't care what's on my phone. Its all just a mirror of whats
in the cloud anyway. 

I could destroy my phone (or lose it) and wouldn't lose anything except for
the device itself. 

 

The whole thing about whats better is all well and good. I like there are
multiple platforms, it keeps everyone trying. They all get better over time
and everyone wins. 

Right now i'm 100% Microsoft devices (still have a couple of Android devices
that are still current but hardly use them). That may well change in the
future, I won't promise anything. 

 

Friend of mine spec'd up a fancy gaming laptop ($8000 worth) and I said,
specs sound pretty good but if you spend the $8k now it will be worth $1k in
1 to 2 years. Which is exciting because it means in a couple of years the
power of devices will be another leap on what they are. Exciting times. 

 

My favourite device is still my 8" tablet with windows 8.1 on it. So sweet
being able to carry around a computer not much larger than my phone
(remember I have a 6" phone lol) that can be plugged into screen and
keyboard and function like a full PC. It makes me want to squeel with glee.
:)

 

 

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>From the earlier link (about 1/3 of the way down)

Notes

*   Your phone will wait for a WiFi connection to automatically save
backups. If you don't connect to WiFi for a week, any changes to your App
list and settings will be saved using a mobile data connection.
*   Backup saves the apps on your phone, but it doesn't save any data
associated with the apps.
*   Start will reset to its default set of pinned Tiles when you
restore.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 4:18 PM


To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

Looking further into the WP8 backup, this paints an even worse picture than
I'd imagined:

 

http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16663_When_is_a_backup_not_a_b
ackup_.php

 

 

 

RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

Cross-posting here ..

I find that Here Maps and Here Drive+ are quite good, with a few problems that 
I would like to see fixed. I can’t see  an effective way to make this known. 
Nokia Care? 

I have a Lumia 920 – Ok (I have no long-term experience of anything else 
smartphone, though)

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 7:15 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

You can’t get Here Maps (previously Nokia Drive etc.) instead? That has options 
to use/avoid toll roads, defaults to Australian addresses etc. 

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 9:48 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

I have a problem with Bing Maps as well on my Windows Phone. 

 

Firstly, it doesn’t seem to recognise where I am. Even after locating me on the 
map, when I put a location in to get directions, it expects me to put in that 
I’m in Victoria, every time. If I don’t, it tries to find the location in the 
US, or doesn’t find the location at all.

 

Secondly, when it does find a location, it always tries to get me to take toll 
ways. Even if it’s much longer than going another way, or another way is just 
as good, it will always try to get me to pay a toll. Ridiculous.

 

Which leads me to Windows Phone. I am one of the suckers that has one. I like 
that it has upgraded to give me more items on my front screen, but it looks 
like industry has now standardised on iPhone and Android. Which means that due 
to lack of market penetration, most of the apps advertised are not on Windows 
Phone, or if they are, have lower functionality. The range of apps is so much 
better on Android and iPhone.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2014 10:24 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:53 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

David, actually I don’t mind Bing. What aggravates you about it – browser and 
desktop? 

Google morphs every month or week which upsets my conventionalism, and I just 
can’t get the hang of Google browser on iPad (well, many things on that 
platform confuse me).

 

Bing's results are garbage. Today I needed to confirm a few points about the 
installation of a Zenmuse gimbal on a Phantom 2 quadcopter. The manual was a 
bit crap so I went to Google - got the answer and it was installed. 

 

Check out Bing's efforts at machine learning vs Google's. Google *knows* what a 
Zenmuse 3D-2D is and gives me nothing but content relating to that. Bing just 
does some juvenile keyword matching including offering me games and movies in 
3D - one relevant result which is a question. Google is all answers. 

 

I go back to Bing from time to time to see if it has improved - but it is 
useless. Related searches ... Mahjong.  WAT

 

Googles:

 

 

 

Bing It: 

 

 

 

RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

David, actually I don’t mind Bing. What aggravates you about it – browser and 
desktop? 

Google morphs every month or week which upsets my conventionalism, and I just 
can’t get the hang of Google browser on iPad (well, many things on that 
platform confuse me). 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM, ILT (O)  wrote:

As I read it, Nadella’s roles over the past few years have been achieving 
exactly that. To use the acronyms - PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.

 

And Bing - but no one is perfect.




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RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

I read about 8-10 “IT press” articles about Nadella yesterday, and a few are 
looking for the controversy – usual for any media reporting, I suppose. 

Additionally, it’s ramping up significantly in areas that Anthony identified as 
“the future” (e.g. cloud-based products/services)

As I read it, Nadella’s roles over the past few years have been achieving 
exactly that. To use the acronyms - PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.

Equally interesting is his emphasis (in all the snippets of interviews that I 
have seen) on devices. And I don’t believe that he is defing devices as 
narrowly as tablets and phones, Surface and Windows Phone. 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:33 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

46 years old, 22 with Microsoft – and his experience within MS is quite 
impressive. I think he’s an excellent choice.

 

Have a read of this: 
http://gigaom.com/2014/01/31/the-gigaom-interview-a-chat-with-microsofts-satya-nadella-from-before-he-was-the-likely-next-ceo/

 

He seems pretty considered and thoughtful. I don't think we'll be seeing any 
more monkey boy dances, that's for sure. 

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RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

[ILT (O)]

46 years old, 22 with Microsoft – and his experience within MS is quite 
impressive. I think he’s an excellent choice.

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:10 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...

 

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:03 PM,  wrote:

Maybe everyone is selling their stocks!

 

Don't reckon he was a good choice? 

 

I thought they did extremely well for an internal candidate.

 

David. 

 

[OT] WP developers

[ILT (O)]

Being largely (?totally) ignorant of the WP development scene, I was pleased
to discover an application that purports to collate Australian-developed
applications for Windows Phone devices. I have a Nokia Lumia 920 (WP8) -
having resisted for years buying or even using so-called smartphones. 

Finding a weather app that uses Australian BOM information was really
hit-and-miss for me at Nokia Store and the WindowsPhone store. This
catalogue has 400 apps, 135 publishers (it may be out-of-date, or a small
sampling of what is available, but discoverability is key). 

The app is called Developed Down Under. There is a user-group WPDownUnder
(http://www.wpdownunder.com/) and a company/developer mobilewares.net that
produced this. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: Windows Phone list?

[ILT (O)]

I did consider asking WP8 questions on OzDotNet, of course. Do WP devs have 
hobbies?

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:25 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Windows Phone list?

 

I want a list for xaml designers who have basket weaving and blythe doll 
photography as hobbies. 

 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:14 PM,  wrote:

Also joined 😊

 

Is there a list for AUS Windows 8 Store app devs?

 

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

 

From: ILT (O) <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> 
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎21‎ ‎January‎ ‎2014 ‎10‎:‎58‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet <mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> 

 

Ok, I have joined the WP list so that makes 23 inactive members! 

The Windows Phone Developer Community site looks like a useful site for 
resources. Thanks, Andrew.

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:15 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Windows Phone list?

 

Cool – will also promote to the Windows Phone Developer Community ( 
<http://wp.msdeveloper.com.au> http://wp.msdeveloper.com.au) 

 

Cheers,

 

Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping 
Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719   • Mob +61 (416) 134 
993   • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 
  •  <http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat> 
http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat

Sent from the  <http://office.com/preview> new Office

 

 

 

RE: Windows Phone list?

[ILT (O)]

Ok, I have joined the WP list so that makes 23 inactive members! 

The Windows Phone Developer Community site looks like a useful site for 
resources. Thanks, Andrew.

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:15 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Windows Phone list?

 

Cool – will also promote to the Windows Phone Developer Community ( 
 http://wp.msdeveloper.com.au) 

 

Cheers,

 

Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping 
Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 •  
 http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat

Sent from the   new Office

 

 

Windows Phone list?

[ILT (O)]

I think there is an Australian Windows Phone dev list. Can someone give me a
link, please?

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

WP8 - File manager/explorer?

[ILT (O)]

Is there a file explorer / file manager available for WP8, Nokia Lumia
flavour (820-920-925-etc)? I know that it's easy to connect via their USB
cable to a Windows PC and do it, but I am looking for something that runs on
the device itself. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

[OT] Syme

[ILT (O)]

I followed the link in the ARN article  , and
interestingly it's available only if you're using a Chrome browser! 


Will you release Syme on other platforms?


Syme will soon be available on Firefox and Safari in addition to Chrome. We
will look into building mobile and desktop apps in the near future. 


Why the name?


Syme is the name of a character from George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.
Syme was "vaporized" by the Party because he remained a freethinking
intellectual. 


Who's working on this?


Syme's founders are Louis  , Jon
  and Chris 
. We're a three-person team based in Montreal, Canada. 

And they use twitter, facebook, etc to advertise their project. open source,
code at github.

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

[ILT (O)]

Ironically, when I go there I get a huge popup Ad in the middle of the
screen that I have to dismiss.

Greg, maybe that's ARN (IDG Communications) , if you're referring to what
happens when you follow my link. 

As to what is actually at "Syme", I have no idea. Did you try to connect to
the site? 

But as a Melbourne-ite I thought you might wonder (as I do) about the origin
of the name for this encrypted site: "Syme" - I immediately thought of David
Syme, one-time editor / founder of "The Age", etc (not sure exactly of his
role). 

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:37 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

 

Has this any chance of attracting enough people to survive? 


 
 Encrypted social network vies for disgruntled
WhatsApp, Facebook users


(link  )

 

Ironically, when I go there I get a huge popup Ad in the middle of the
screen that I have to dismiss. A encrypted social networking site, it's a
great idea, but it's too late -- Greg

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

[ILT (O)]

Has this any chance of attracting enough people to survive? 


 

 Encrypted social network vies for disgruntled WhatsApp, Facebook users


(link  )

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:59 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

 

 

On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stephen Price  
wrote:

There are other words you could use to describe someone who wants everything 
for free and won't pay (or expect others to pay) for what they use. 

 

I'll gladly put up with the ads rather than pay, say, $20 a month for google.  
OTOH, sometimes I'm willing to pay for a site, and that turns the ads off and 
gives extra features.  (but I'm not willing to enrich Murloch by doing this)

 

-- 
Meski


   
  
 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

[OT] rules in Outlook.com (2)

[ILT (O)]

Definitely not a programming question. Has anyone used outlook.com for
email, and successfully constructed a rule that will file away emails from
this list? Sender is ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com , so the 2 rules I
constructed with its online tool were

 

Move messages to OzDotNet if sender's address is "ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com"

Allowing a few hours for some mail to arrive, I find this isn't working. The
destination folder exists, is spelled right. I have 4 or 5 other rules that
do work, but the online outlook isn't as capable as the desktop in
management, to be expected I guess. 

 

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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

[OT] rules in Outlook.com

[ILT (O)]

Testing my outlook.com Rule

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: SCreen Recorder

[ILT (O)]

Anthony

It is way more capable than just screen recording, but VisioForge Video
Capture SDK is .NET and works on Windows 7 and earlier. They have recently
released Windows 8 specific products, too I think (Windows 8 has a lot of
enhancements for easily capturing video, which aren't a part of .NET 4.5).

 

Video Capture SDK .Net -

http://visioforge.com/video-capture-sdk-net2.html 

 

It is easy enough to use. The free version will display a brand (no
advertising), but the paid subscription is 250 Euro, frequent updates and
enhancements. 

They have a number of related products. 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:08 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: SCreen Recorder

 

Want something that is dotnet code..don't want to rely on windows 7

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Preet Sangha
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:03 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: SCreen Recorder

 

Can you use the built into windows (7+) Problem Steps Recorder?

 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8512730/how-to-integrate-problem-steps-re
corder-psr-in-my-application

 

On 28 November 2013 12:09,  wrote:

Anyone suggest a third party control or code to record screen video within
an application?

 

 

Anthony Salerno

Melbourne StuffUps

 

 

 

 

 

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