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Good advice, thanks Bill. I might hold out for the time being and see what happens. Cheers. On 24 May 2011 13:38, Bill McCarthy wrote: > The Mozart is the phone I'm using at present. It's got lots of good > features and some bad. In rural/poor coverage areas the battery life is > terrible; but in good coverage areas it is fair to good in terms of battery > life. The GPS in it seems incredibly flakey at times: last night for example > it wasn't able to give me a position fix and was showing my last position > some 20km away, whilst a friends Motorola Defy was working accurately within > ten or so metres accuracy > In terms of screen brightness I find the Mozart at times unreadable in > direct sunlight. I've seen an iPhone next to my Mozart on a sunny day and > the iPhone was readable whilst the Mozart wasn't. I believe the Defy is > quite good in that aspect to. Of course, some of the problem may have been > from the screen protector. > In terms of OS, WP7 is really good at reading mail and all that stuff. It's > nice to be able to have a rough look at office documents etc... The other > day I sent a word document attachment to a friend who didn't even realize > because he was using droid 2.2 or there about: I just laughed. > The recent WP7 updates really did improve performance. But there's still a > lot more to come that will make WP7 a lot more compelling. > If you can wait some months then it's probably wise to. If not, try to lock > in for as little time as possible; and there's new dual core phones coming > out next month, and then no doubt more to follow. > -------------- > From: Stephen Liedig > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 1:14 PM > > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans > > Cheers everyone, all good information. > > .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen > have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been > somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 > a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all > carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around > at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a > failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or > is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I > spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last > year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be > interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too > much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a > bit strange. > > Thanks again for all your comments. > > Steve > > > On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie wrote: > >> I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 >> >> I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network >> even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think >> the Mozart runs more smoothly >> >> when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't >> even notice the difference in size >> >> I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer >> >> One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light >> >> I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously >> mentioned in the threat it's not great >> I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from >> 3G to GSM all the time >> Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the >> test on my connection >> >> If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G >> network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit >> smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 >> and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only >> used the two I mentioned >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >>> >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >>> >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. >>> > >>> > You still have to wait for c
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Bill - good call w.r.t. waiting for WP vNext (aka Mango). One word "Nokia" - just look at how they innovate w.r.t. hardware and you can imagine what they'll do with WP. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 10:39 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans The Mozart is the phone I'm using at present. It's got lots of good features and some bad. In rural/poor coverage areas the battery life is terrible; but in good coverage areas it is fair to good in terms of battery life. The GPS in it seems incredibly flakey at times: last night for example it wasn't able to give me a position fix and was showing my last position some 20km away, whilst a friends Motorola Defy was working accurately within ten or so metres accuracy In terms of screen brightness I find the Mozart at times unreadable in direct sunlight. I've seen an iPhone next to my Mozart on a sunny day and the iPhone was readable whilst the Mozart wasn't. I believe the Defy is quite good in that aspect to. Of course, some of the problem may have been from the screen protector. In terms of OS, WP7 is really good at reading mail and all that stuff. It's nice to be able to have a rough look at office documents etc... The other day I sent a word document attachment to a friend who didn't even realize because he was using droid 2.2 or there about: I just laughed. The recent WP7 updates really did improve performance. But there's still a lot more to come that will make WP7 a lot more compelling. If you can wait some months then it's probably wise to. If not, try to lock in for as little time as possible; and there's new dual core phones coming out next month, and then no doubt more to follow. From: Stephen Liedig Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 1:14 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans Cheers everyone, all good information. .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a bit strange. Thanks again for all your comments. Steve On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie mailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think the Mozart runs more smoothly when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't even notice the difference in size I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously mentioned in the threat it's not great I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from 3G to GSM all the time Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the test on my connection If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only used the two I mentioned On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith mailto:meski...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors mailto:da...@codify.com>> wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith > mailto:meski...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Probably get
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, .net noobie wrote: > the Numbers is low, but it is only a few months old, i > hope Paris Hilton switches from a iPhone to WP7 > then the numbers should sky rocket ;) hehe > > Paris Hilton, made the iPhone a fashion item almost with young people ;) > > > Is she still popular? > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, mike smith wrote: > >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Stephen Liedig wrote: >> >>> Cheers everyone, all good information. >>> >>> .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have >>> seen have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been >>> somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 >>> a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all >>> carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around >>> at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a >>> failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or >>> is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I >>> spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last >>> year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be >>> interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too >>> much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a >>> bit strange. >>> >>> Thanks again for all your comments. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Down to 3.6% as of the last quarter. >> >> >> http://www.crn.com.au/News/258130,symbian-and-windows-phone-7-bleed-market-share.aspx >> >> Come on, Microsoft, at that level it's not worth developing for when you >> can hit most of the market by targeting iOS and Android. >> >> >> -- >> Meski >> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >> > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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the Numbers is low, but it is only a few months old, i hope Paris Hilton switches from a iPhone to WP7 then the numbers should sky rocket ;) hehe Paris Hilton, made the iPhone a fashion item almost with young people ;) On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, mike smith wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Stephen Liedig wrote: > >> Cheers everyone, all good information. >> >> .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen >> have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been >> somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 >> a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all >> carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around >> at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a >> failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or >> is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I >> spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last >> year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be >> interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too >> much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a >> bit strange. >> >> Thanks again for all your comments. >> >> >> > > Down to 3.6% as of the last quarter. > > > http://www.crn.com.au/News/258130,symbian-and-windows-phone-7-bleed-market-share.aspx > > Come on, Microsoft, at that level it's not worth developing for when you > can hit most of the market by targeting iOS and Android. > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >
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The Mozart is the phone I'm using at present. It's got lots of good features and some bad. In rural/poor coverage areas the battery life is terrible; but in good coverage areas it is fair to good in terms of battery life. The GPS in it seems incredibly flakey at times: last night for example it wasn't able to give me a position fix and was showing my last position some 20km away, whilst a friends Motorola Defy was working accurately within ten or so metres accuracy In terms of screen brightness I find the Mozart at times unreadable in direct sunlight. I've seen an iPhone next to my Mozart on a sunny day and the iPhone was readable whilst the Mozart wasn't. I believe the Defy is quite good in that aspect to. Of course, some of the problem may have been from the screen protector. In terms of OS, WP7 is really good at reading mail and all that stuff. It's nice to be able to have a rough look at office documents etc... The other day I sent a word document attachment to a friend who didn't even realize because he was using droid 2.2 or there about: I just laughed. The recent WP7 updates really did improve performance. But there's still a lot more to come that will make WP7 a lot more compelling. If you can wait some months then it's probably wise to. If not, try to lock in for as little time as possible; and there's new dual core phones coming out next month, and then no doubt more to follow. -Original Message- From: Stephen Liedig Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 1:14 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans Cheers everyone, all good information. .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a bit strange. Thanks again for all your comments. Steve On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie wrote: > I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 > > I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network > even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think > the Mozart runs more smoothly > > when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't > even notice the difference in size > > I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer > > One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light > > I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously > mentioned in the threat it's not great > I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from > 3G to GSM all the time > Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the > test on my connection > > If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G > network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit > smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 > and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only > used the two I mentioned > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: > >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors wrote: >> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >> >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >> >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. >> > >> > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root >> your >> > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and >> > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. >> > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. >> everyone >> > in the world gets it on day one). >> >> Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. >> NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls >> apart[1](no sign so far), or I ge
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Stephen Liedig wrote: > Cheers everyone, all good information. > > .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen > have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been > somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 > a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all > carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around > at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a > failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or > is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I > spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last > year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be > interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too > much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a > bit strange. > > Thanks again for all your comments. > > > Down to 3.6% as of the last quarter. http://www.crn.com.au/News/258130,symbian-and-windows-phone-7-bleed-market-share.aspx Come on, Microsoft, at that level it's not worth developing for when you can hit most of the market by targeting iOS and Android. -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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My mother in law bought a WP7 Mozart from Telstra. I was gobsmacked. The thing is, she would have bought whatever they pushed at her. The fact they sold her the WP7 and *not* an iPhone was hell impressive. Big thumbs up to whoever that salesperson was, or possibly Telstra. Their prices are pretty competitive these days, so the extra coverage makes it a nobrainer. Also, my mother in law *loves* the WP7. :) On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Stephen Liedig wrote: > Cheers everyone, all good information. > .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen > have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been > somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 > a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all > carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around > at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a > failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or > is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I > spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last > year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be > interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too > much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a > bit strange. > Thanks again for all your comments. > Steve > > On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie wrote: >> >> I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 >> >> I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network >> even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think >> the Mozart runs more smoothly >> when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't >> even notice the difference in size >> >> I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer >> >> One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light >> >> I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously >> mentioned in the threat it's not great >> I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from >> 3G to GSM all the time >> Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the >> test on my connection >> >> If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G >> network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit >> smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 >> and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only >> used the two I mentioned >> >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors wrote: >>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >>> >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >>> >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. >>> > >>> > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root >>> > your >>> > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and >>> > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. >>> > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. >>> > everyone >>> > in the world gets it on day one). >>> >>> Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. >>> NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls >>> apart[1](no sign so far), or I get tired of it I'll keep buying Nexus >>> series. >>> >>> http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-nexus-s.html or its successor? >>> >>> [1] It's holding together fairly well, I've got a silicone holster >>> type cover that leaves the screen exposed, and use the clear covers on >>> that. A minor quibble is that occasionally the touch screen goes out >>> of alignment, but a on-off (not a power recycle) fixes that. Could be >>> the clear screen cover I guess. >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- >>> > David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com >>> > Software Engineer >>> > Codify Pty Ltd >>> > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 >>> > 417 >>> > 189 363 >>> > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >>> > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Meski >>> >>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >> > >
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I have only looked/user those two phones, so that is just my personal feelings about them also... maybe worth noting, that apparently when the "Mango" update is coming will also potentially be some new versions of WP's released which apparently will have some new features, but they will obviously be a while away and also, I do not know if/when they will be available in Aus On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Stephen Liedig wrote: > Cheers everyone, all good information. > > .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen > have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been > somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 > a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all > carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around > at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a > failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or > is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I > spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last > year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be > interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too > much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a > bit strange. > > Thanks again for all your comments. > > Steve > > > On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie wrote: > >> I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 >> >> I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network >> even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think >> the Mozart runs more smoothly >> >> when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't >> even notice the difference in size >> >> I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer >> >> One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light >> >> I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously >> mentioned in the threat it's not great >> I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from >> 3G to GSM all the time >> Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the >> test on my connection >> >> If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G >> network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit >> smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 >> and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only >> used the two I mentioned >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >>> >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >>> >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. >>> > >>> > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root >>> your >>> > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and >>> > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. >>> > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. >>> everyone >>> > in the world gets it on day one). >>> >>> Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. >>> NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls >>> apart[1](no sign so far), or I get tired of it I'll keep buying Nexus >>> series. >>> >>> http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-nexus-s.html or its >>> successor? >>> >>> [1] It's holding together fairly well, I've got a silicone holster >>> type cover that leaves the screen exposed, and use the clear covers on >>> that. A minor quibble is that occasionally the touch screen goes out >>> of alignment, but a on-off (not a power recycle) fixes that. Could be >>> the clear screen cover I guess. >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- >>> > David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com >>> > Software Engineer >>> > Codify Pty Ltd >>> > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 >>> 417 >>> > 189 363 >>> > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >>> > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Meski >>> >>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >>> >> >> >
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Cheers everyone, all good information. .net noobie, your Mozart review is interesting, all the others I have seen have been a bit average. And the reviews on the HTC HD7 have also been somewhat discouraging (not to mention I totally object to having to pay $17 a month just for the privilege of owning one). It seems to me that all carriers are just pushing iphones and android devices. When you look around at what else is on offer WP7 don't look like an attractive option. Is this a failure on Microsoft's part not to push their marketing campaign further or is it the carriers refusal to push it due to the popularity of iPhone? I spoke to a rep in the Telstra store and he said that 55% of sales made last year were for iPhones. When you have those kind of figures why would you be interested in pushing the competition. Anyway, not going to analyse it too much, in fear of showing my ignorance in these matters but I just find it a bit strange. Thanks again for all your comments. Steve On 24 May 2011 09:58, .net noobie wrote: > I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 > > I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network > even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think > the Mozart runs more smoothly > > when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't > even notice the difference in size > > I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer > > One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light > > I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously > mentioned in the threat it's not great > I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from > 3G to GSM all the time > Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the > test on my connection > > If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G > network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit > smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 > and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only > used the two I mentioned > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: > >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors wrote: >> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >> >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >> >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. >> > >> > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root >> your >> > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and >> > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. >> > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. >> everyone >> > in the world gets it on day one). >> >> Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. >> NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls >> apart[1](no sign so far), or I get tired of it I'll keep buying Nexus >> series. >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-nexus-s.html or its successor? >> >> [1] It's holding together fairly well, I've got a silicone holster >> type cover that leaves the screen exposed, and use the clear covers on >> that. A minor quibble is that occasionally the touch screen goes out >> of alignment, but a on-off (not a power recycle) fixes that. Could be >> the clear screen cover I guess. >> >> >> >> > -- >> > David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com >> > Software Engineer >> > Codify Pty Ltd >> > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 >> 417 >> > 189 363 >> > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Meski >> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >> > >
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I have played with Samsung Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart 7 I found the Mozart to be better, runs better, Telstra much better network even after the new Samsung update has been released I still think the Mozart runs more smoothly when i swap from the larger 4" screen to the smaller 3.8" screen, i don't even notice the difference in size I also think the Mozart is just a nicer designed phone, it looks nicer One advantage of the Omnia 7 is the screen in bright light I actually got Optus to test mt 3G connection because as previously mentioned in the threat it's not great I am on the Gold Coast, not a small place, but my connection switches from 3G to GSM all the time Optus actually offered me to cancel the contract due to the results of the test on my connection If i personally chose again I would get the Mozart, due to superior 3G network and the phone is just better design and also I think runs a bit smoother and I may still take Optus up on the offer to hand back my Omnia 7 and get a Mozart (or some other Telstra WP7 phone) as I have really only used the two I mentioned On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, mike smith wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith wrote: > >> > >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, > >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them > >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. > > > > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root > your > > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and > > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. > > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. > everyone > > in the world gets it on day one). > > Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. > NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls > apart[1](no sign so far), or I get tired of it I'll keep buying Nexus > series. > > http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-nexus-s.html or its successor? > > [1] It's holding together fairly well, I've got a silicone holster > type cover that leaves the screen exposed, and use the clear covers on > that. A minor quibble is that occasionally the touch screen goes out > of alignment, but a on-off (not a power recycle) fixes that. Could be > the clear screen cover I guess. > > > > > -- > > David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com > > Software Engineer > > Codify Pty Ltd > > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 > 417 > > 189 363 > > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > > > > > > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Connors wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith wrote: >> >> Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, >> you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them >> rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. > > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root your > phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and > Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. > Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. everyone > in the world gets it on day one). Inclined to agree, but Google go close with their own models. NexusOne, etc - it deployed 2.3.4 this month. When it falls apart[1](no sign so far), or I get tired of it I'll keep buying Nexus series. http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-nexus-s.html or its successor? [1] It's holding together fairly well, I've got a silicone holster type cover that leaves the screen exposed, and use the clear covers on that. A minor quibble is that occasionally the touch screen goes out of alignment, but a on-off (not a power recycle) fixes that. Could be the clear screen cover I guess. > -- > David Connors | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com > Software Engineer > Codify Pty Ltd > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 > 189 363 > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, mike smith wrote: > Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, > you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them > rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. > You still have to wait for carrier updates for Android unless you root your phone and use cyanogen mods etc. My HTC Desire still has 2.2 on it and Telstra aren't releasing 2.3 until next month. Apple are the only company who has the update process right (i.e. everyone in the world gets it on day one). -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM, DotNet Dude wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Chris Walsh wrote: >> Reception and 3G speed. The Telstra NextG network kills anything available >> in Australia >> ++ Probably get the phone and plan separately. With Android at least, you get far more timely upgrades if the phone maker delivers them rather than waiting for the carrier to cripple^H modify the firmware. > > Yep you pay more with Telstra but get a way better service. I've also > found the Vodaphone,3 and Optus mobile boradband to be an absolute > joke compared to Telstra > >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> >> From: Stephen Liedig >> Sent: 23 May 2011 19:12 >> To: ozDotNet >> Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans >> >> Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good? >> >> On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh wrote: >>> >>> If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. >>> Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good >>> choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> >>> From: Stephen Liedig >>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 >>> To: ozDotNet >>> Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans >>> >>> Hello all, >>> have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and >>> wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and >>> plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 >>> offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was >>> looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I >>> heard the price! >>> Cheers, >>> Steve >> > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Chris Walsh wrote: > Reception and 3G speed. The Telstra NextG network kills anything available > in Australia > Yep you pay more with Telstra but get a way better service. I've also found the Vodaphone,3 and Optus mobile boradband to be an absolute joke compared to Telstra > Sent from my Windows Phone > > From: Stephen Liedig > Sent: 23 May 2011 19:12 > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans > > Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good? > > On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh wrote: >> >> If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. >> Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good >> choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ________ >> From: Stephen Liedig >> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 >> To: ozDotNet >> Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans >> >> Hello all, >> have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and >> wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and >> plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 >> offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was >> looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I >> heard the price! >> Cheers, >> Steve >
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Cheers Chris, I will keep that in mind making my decision. On 23 May 2011 17:31, Chris Walsh wrote: > Reception and 3G speed. The Telstra NextG network kills anything > available in Australia > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > -- > From: Stephen Liedig > Sent: 23 May 2011 19:12 > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans > > > Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good? > > On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh wrote: > >> If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. >> Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good >> choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ------ >> From: Stephen Liedig >> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 >> To: ozDotNet >> Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and >> wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and >> plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 >> offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was >> looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I >> heard the price! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> > >
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Reception and 3G speed. The Telstra NextG network kills anything available in Australia Sent from my Windows Phone From: Stephen Liedig Sent: 23 May 2011 19:12 To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good? On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh mailto:ch...@walshie.me>> wrote: If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Stephen Liedig Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans Hello all, have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I heard the price! Cheers, Steve
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Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good? On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh wrote: > If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. > Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good > choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. > > Sent from my Windows Phone > -- > From: Stephen Liedig > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 > To: ozDotNet > Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans > > > Hello all, > > have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and > wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and > plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 > offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was > looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I > heard the price! > > Cheers, > > Steve >
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If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra. Good pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good choice. I would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Stephen Liedig Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44 To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans Hello all, have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I heard the price! Cheers, Steve
[OT] Windows Phone 7 & Plans
Hello all, have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and wanted some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and plans. Have been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 offerings are pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was looking at the HD7 from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I heard the price! Cheers, Steve
