RE: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_Gen2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements * Supported Operating Systems:Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: * Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. * Drive Formatting: NTFS * Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable * RAM: 8 GB or more recommended * Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the 2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine goog_1420228367 (RTM)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any other party, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer.
Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Would you suggest building a desktop instead? I'm happy to invest in a laptop but these days no amount of RAM is good enough. Tejas. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_Gen2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben -- *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tejas Goradia *Sent:* Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements -- - *Supported Operating Systems:*Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: - Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. - Drive Formatting: NTFS - Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable - RAM: 8 GB or more recommended - Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the *2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine * http://goog_1420228367(RTM)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any other party, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer.
RE: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
I think this really depends on what you want to run. With an 8GB laptop and a couple of SSDs, you can run 4-5 VMs without too many issues – even I/O intensive ones like SCOM or Exchange. But this would mainly be for testing things on an ad hoc basis If you’re looking to have a permanent lab running, and actually build up data in databases, then you’ll probably need a desktop machine. Most mid-high end ones will go to 16GB RAM, and the workstation class ones will give you 24+ GB That all said, the more VMs you run, the more I/O throughput you need. So, get SSDs. Trying to run 10 VMs off 2 regular disks (for example) will just be painful. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 6:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Would you suggest building a desktop instead? I'm happy to invest in a laptop but these days no amount of RAM is good enough. Tejas. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.aumailto:ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_Gen2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements * Supported Operating Systems:Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: * Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. * Drive Formatting: NTFS * Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable * RAM: 8 GB or more recommended * Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the 2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine http://goog_1420228367 (RTM)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas
Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
If you buy a laptop double check that it supports 64 bit virtualisation. I am miffed that a HP DV7 I bought does not and so I can only do 32 bit virtualisation even though the processor is 64 bit !. If you don't need portability, stick to a desktop assembly, go to MSY and roll out your own (they will build as well). Much better bang for the buck. Regards, Stuart On 9 June 2011 21:03, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I think this really depends on what you want to run. With an 8GB laptop and a couple of SSDs, you can run 4-5 VMs without too many issues – even I/O intensive ones like SCOM or Exchange. But this would mainly be for testing things on an ad hoc basis If you’re looking to have a permanent lab running, and actually build up data in databases, then you’ll probably need a desktop machine. Most mid-high end ones will go to 16GB RAM, and the workstation class ones will give you 24+ GB That all said, the more VMs you run, the more I/O throughput you need. So, get SSDs. Trying to run 10 VMs off 2 regular disks (for example) will just be painful. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tejas Goradia *Sent:* Thursday, 9 June 2011 6:21 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Would you suggest building a desktop instead? I'm happy to invest in a laptop but these days no amount of RAM is good enough. Tejas. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_Gen2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben -- *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tejas Goradia *Sent:* Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements -- - *Supported Operating Systems:*Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: - Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. - Drive Formatting: NTFS - Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable - RAM: 8 GB or more recommended - Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the *2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine * http://goog_1420228367(RTM)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
RE: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
Sorry Tejas There's been so many threads about laptops recently I just assumed that this was another one! I'd definitely get a desktop unless you need the portability. If you are up for building a machine yourself (rather than buying one) then IMO you can't go past the Intel 2600k CPU (~$320) with an overclocking friendly motherboard (e.g. ASUS or Gigabyte) and just whack 16GB into it and be done with it. I've got mine running 24/7 at 4.2 GHz on the stock fan and heat sink and it is blazingly fast. However, as Ken pointed out you really want to ensure you have enough I/O throughput so get SSDs for it. If you build something yourself it shouldn't be too expensive at all. Regards, Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 6:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Would you suggest building a desktop instead? I'm happy to invest in a laptop but these days no amount of RAM is good enough. Tejas. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.aumailto:ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_Gen2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements * Supported Operating Systems:Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: * Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. * Drive Formatting: NTFS * Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable * RAM: 8 GB or more recommended * Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the 2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine http://goog_1420228367 (RTM)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any other party, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer. This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any other party, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer.
RE: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
Hi Stuart, Have you checked with them about bios upgrades? We got a bunch of Dell machines a while back that had the same limitation but after a bios upgrade, all good. Regards, Greg From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear Sent: Friday, 10 June 2011 8:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. If you buy a laptop double check that it supports 64 bit virtualisation. I am miffed that a HP DV7 I bought does not and so I can only do 32 bit virtualisation even though the processor is 64 bit !. If you don't need portability, stick to a desktop assembly, go to MSY and roll out your own (they will build as well). Much better bang for the buck. Regards, Stuart On 9 June 2011 21:03, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I think this really depends on what you want to run. With an 8GB laptop and a couple of SSDs, you can run 4-5 VMs without too many issues - even I/O intensive ones like SCOM or Exchange. But this would mainly be for testing things on an ad hoc basis If you're looking to have a permanent lab running, and actually build up data in databases, then you'll probably need a desktop machine. Most mid-high end ones will go to 16GB RAM, and the workstation class ones will give you 24+ GB That all said, the more VMs you run, the more I/O throughput you need. So, get SSDs. Trying to run 10 VMs off 2 regular disks (for example) will just be painful. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 6:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Would you suggest building a desktop instead? I'm happy to invest in a laptop but these days no amount of RAM is good enough. Tejas. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I'm not sure if any laptops exist that have the option of having Win Server 2008 R2 installed. If they do they are likely pretty expensive. Here's a reasonable Acer laptop for $1,050 (after cash back from Acer) that will meet your specs once you add another 4GB of RAM (comes with 1x 4GB but can be upgraded to 2x 4GB) and install your OS of choice. I've bought a couple of things from MWave before and had no problems with them (I have no affiliation with them). http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-31010931-Acer_AS5750G_2634G64Mn_Notebook_Intel_G en2_Core_i7_2630QM_Processor_%282_0GHz_up_t There are faster processors but this is pretty good (the entry-level Sandy Bridge mobile CPU with 4 cores and hyper threading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge Ben _ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tejas Goradia Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:14 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements. System Requirements _ * Supported Operating Systems:Windows Server 2008 R2 Additionally you will need: * Windows Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V role enabled. * Drive Formatting: NTFS * Processor: Intel VT or AMD-V capable * RAM: 8 GB or more recommended * Hard disk space required for install: 50 GB This machine is going to be dedicated for running Virtual Machines made available from Microsoft like the http://goog_1420228367 2010 Information Worker Demonstration and Evaluation Virtual Machine (RTM) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=751fa0d1-356c-4 002-9c60-d539896c66cedisplaylang=en I naturally don't want to spend a fortune so please suggest good value for money. Thanks, Tejas -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
Re: Calling out to all you geeks to help me buy\build a machine (preferably laptop) that can support following System Requirements.
Have you checked with them about bios upgrades? We got a bunch of Dell machines a while back that had the same limitation but after a bios upgrade, all good. Yes, on my desktop HP it was turned off by default in the bios and I had to turn it on. Craig.
