Re: OT - iPhone Programming
Android just feels like a cheap-unfinished clone of the iPhone :) [Now let the war begin] On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! I left my iPhone for my WP7 now :) There are still some issues with WP7 (it's clearly a v1.0) but I have to say that I went back to the iPhone 3GS two weeks after working with WP7 and the UI of the iPhone looks so odd, outdated and noisy that I was surprised I've ever liked it :) Have you tried Android? (release 2.1 at least) The grass is (still) greener :) Corneliu. Oh, and XBox games on WP7 are mind blowing. Seems odd that a xbox game that's used to highpowered CPU GPU could scale down to a phone. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Android just feels like a cheap-unfinished clone of the iPhone :) Or an unrestricted version, that runs things that Jobs disapproves of [Now let the war begin] On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! I left my iPhone for my WP7 now :) There are still some issues with WP7 (it's clearly a v1.0) but I have to say that I went back to the iPhone 3GS two weeks after working with WP7 and the UI of the iPhone looks so odd, outdated and noisy that I was surprised I've ever liked it :) Have you tried Android? (release 2.1 at least) The grass is (still) greener :) Corneliu. Oh, and XBox games on WP7 are mind blowing. Seems odd that a xbox game that's used to highpowered CPU GPU could scale down to a phone. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
On 29 November 2010 23:37, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Android just feels like a cheap-unfinished clone of the iPhone :) Or an unrestricted version, that runs things that Jobs disapproves of I have an iPhone 4, HTC Desire with Froyo on it, and an HTC Mozart. Each of the current gen smart phones have their strengths and weaknesses. My take on how things will play out: 1. Nokia has been asleep at the wheel and is like IBM with mainframes in the 80s. Seeya guys. 2. Blackberry are not actually asleep at the wheel - but it is difficult to see how a strategy based on re-heated QNX is going to excite people in this day and age. 3. WP7 is clearly v1.0 as others have said. Putting the niggles (no tethering, multitasking, etc) to one side - it is 1000x improvement of WM6.5. Microsoft has infinitely deep pockets and will do whatever it takes to be a contender. They tipped what- USD$8bln down the xbox hole before they started making any coin out of it. 4. Android is going to stay. The licensing terms are pretty attractive to Asian manufacturers. 5. iPhone is going to stay, and Apple's real strength here is vertical integration. I'd love to know how much they make on a per unit basis vs Android/WP7. I'd call it a three-horse race from now and into the indefinite future. I don't think it is possible to argue one is better than the other - they each have clear strengths and weaknesses and I don't see that changing any time soon. In the saas world we live in now, people seem to talk more about apps than devices/operating systems anyway. I'd also put good odds on the outside chance no one talks about much: WebOS now that HP own Palm. Again, deep pockets + lots of enterprise inroads. I don't know why people don't rate it - architecturally, UI, performance, features, etc - it all looks very good. David. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! I left my iPhone for my WP7 now :) There are still some issues with WP7 (it's clearly a v1.0) but I have to say that I went back to the iPhone 3GS two weeks after working with WP7 and the UI of the iPhone looks so odd, outdated and noisy that I was surprised I've ever liked it :) Have you tried Android? (release 2.1 at least) The grass is (still) greener :) Corneliu. Oh, and XBox games on WP7 are mind blowing. Seems odd that a xbox game that's used to highpowered CPU GPU could scale down to a phone. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.au wrote: I left my iphone for an android now! -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
We looked into it. As far as I can tell, there is no .NET way of doing it. Even programming for iPhone in Windows is an arduous process as far as I can determine. Of course, things may have changed in the last few months. Info I got at the time: http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/225702387 Dylan. -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 12:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. - To find out more about the Sunshine Coast Regional Council, visit your local office at Caloundra, Maroochydore, Nambour or Tewantin or visit us online at www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au. If correspondence includes personal information, please refer to Council's Privacy Policy at http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au . This email and any attachments are confidential and only for the use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error you are requested to notify the sender by return email or contact council on 1300 00 7272 and are prohibited from forwarding, printing, copying or using it in anyway, in whole or part. Please note that some council staff utilise Blackberry devices, which results in information being transmitted overseas prior to delivery of any communication to the device. In sending an email to Council you are agreeing that the content of your email may be transmitted overseas. Any views expressed in this email are the author's, except where the email makes it clear otherwise. The unauthorised publication of an email and any attachments generated for the official functions of council is strictly prohibited. Please note that council is subject to the Right to Information Act 2009 (Qld) and Information Privacy Act 2009 (Qld).
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
Hi silky, Try taking a look at `MonoTouch`. It's Mono for the iPhone. http://monotouch.net/ From the website: What is MonoTouch? MonoTouch allows developers to create C# and .NET based applications that run on Apple's iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch devices, while taking advantage of the iPhone APIs and reusing both code and libraries that have been built for .NET, as well as existing skills. And I believe that `MonoDroid` is coming for Android phones. Cheers. James. -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 13:05 To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature.
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
I have used monotouch in the past. More info: http://monotouch.net/ HTHs, Hemal -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature.
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, James Chapman-Smith ja...@enigmativity.com wrote: Hi silky, Try taking a look at `MonoTouch`. It's Mono for the iPhone. http://monotouch.net/ From the website: What is MonoTouch? MonoTouch allows developers to create C# and .NET based applications that run on Apple's iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch devices, while taking advantage of the iPhone APIs and reusing both code and libraries that have been built for .NET, as well as existing skills. And I believe that `MonoDroid` is coming for Android phones. Thanks James (and Hemal) I just noticed that MonoTouch is not free; probably more effective to buy a Mac for that price. But I don't know if I can justify that kind of expenditure. Cheers. James. -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
If you want program the iPhone using the .net framework check out http://monotouch.net/ . Mono is a .net cross platform development environment for Windows, Macs and Linux based Oses. http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Hope this helps. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.au ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
Really...I didn't know but looks like they are still selling monotouch from the web site. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 3:28 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT - iPhone Programming Did apple not make a statement that you cannot use things like monotouch anymore they said that if you want make iphone apps you need use the apple/iphone tools only or you are breaking there TC's or whatever correct? On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.au wrote: If you want program the iPhone using the .net framework check out http://monotouch.net/ . Mono is a .net cross platform development environment for Windows, Macs and Linux based Oses. http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Hope this helps. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
On 26 November 2010 18:28, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote: Did apple not make a statement that you cannot use things like monotouch anymore they said that if you want make iphone apps you need use the apple/iphone tools only or you are breaking there TC's or whatever correct? They did, then they backtracked. http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/09/09/apple.opens.up.ios.limits.following.adobe.scrutiny/ On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.au wrote: If you want program the iPhone using the .net framework check out http://monotouch.net/ . Mono is a .net cross platform development environment for Windows, Macs and Linux based Oses. http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Hope this helps. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000 F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.au W: http://www.itvision.com.au ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: OT - iPhone Programming
I am not into the iphone but here is a link talking about it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2604033/is-monotouch-now-banned-on-the-iphone/2608823#2608823 On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.auwrote: Really…I didn’t know but looks like they are still selling monotouch from the web site. *David Loo* *Analyst/Programmer* *IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd* (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.au ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *.net noobie *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2010 3:28 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: OT - iPhone Programming Did apple not make a statement that you cannot use things like monotouch anymore they said that if you want make iphone apps you need use the apple/iphone tools only or you are breaking there TC's or whatever correct? On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.au wrote: If you want program the iPhone using the .net framework check out http://monotouch.net/ . Mono is a .net cross platform development environment for Windows, Macs and Linux based Oses. http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Hope this helps. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.au ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
RE: OT - iPhone Programming
I left my iphone for an android now! David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 3:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT - iPhone Programming I am not into the iphone but here is a link talking about it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2604033/is-monotouch-now-banned-on-the-iphone/2608823#2608823 On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.au wrote: Really...I didn't know but looks like they are still selling monotouch from the web site. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 3:28 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: OT - iPhone Programming Did apple not make a statement that you cannot use things like monotouch anymore they said that if you want make iphone apps you need use the apple/iphone tools only or you are breaking there TC's or whatever correct? On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Loo david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.au wrote: If you want program the iPhone using the .net framework check out http://monotouch.net/ . Mono is a .net cross platform development environment for Windows, Macs and Linux based Oses. http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page Hope this helps. David Loo Analyst/Programmer IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 P: (08) 9315 7000F: (08) 9315 7088 E: david@itvision.com.aumailto:david@itvision.com.auW: http://www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ ___ NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages. ___ -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of silky Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 10:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: OT - iPhone Programming Hey, Is anyone doing this on Windows and/or with .NET? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com
