Re: [OT] New laptop

[Craig van Nieuwkerk]

I have a number of basic static type websites and I just host them in an
Azure VM (old school!), it is much cheaper. My actual cloud app that is
doing a lot of work is hosted in Web Apps.

Craig

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Do you have each website on its own machine or something?
>> I'm using web apps (not vms) for all my websites.
>>
>
> Like you, I have no VMs. I have no SQL DBs at the moment either. I have an
> "App Service" to host each site and domain. My Subscription page just now
> shows $30 for basic Small App service hours and $14 for Premium storage. So
> it looks like most of the dosh is going on the web sites which have trivial
> hit counts and usage.
>
> Ah! The history page which I hadn't noticed before. It shows $51 last
> month for the App Services, which are barely used. Hmmm! So I guess I'm
> paying for up time, not by hits and or data transfer.
>
> I'm sure I can make this exercise more cost effective, but how hard is it?!
>
> *GK*
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Greg Keogh]

>
> Do you have each website on its own machine or something?
> I'm using web apps (not vms) for all my websites.
>

Like you, I have no VMs. I have no SQL DBs at the moment either. I have an
"App Service" to host each site and domain. My Subscription page just now
shows $30 for basic Small App service hours and $14 for Premium storage. So
it looks like most of the dosh is going on the web sites which have trivial
hit counts and usage.

Ah! The history page which I hadn't noticed before. It shows $51 last month
for the App Services, which are barely used. Hmmm! So I guess I'm paying
for up time, not by hits and or data transfer.

I'm sure I can make this exercise more cost effective, but how hard is it?!

*GK*

Re: [OT] New laptop

[David Connors]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 at 10:46 Greg Keogh  wrote:

> BAD: I have to FTP up the files and deploy the apps. The Azure burn rate
> hints that without an MSDN free quota I would be paying about $700/year (
> *WHAT!* These sites and apps are mostly idle, so it's an appalling cost
> increase compared to running my own server box).
>

The Cloud is flexible, not cheap. :)


> The last hurdles are replacing my old Mercury mail server with something
> upstairs, and where to put the 350 gigwatts of mp3 files.
>

Google Play Music. You can upload 20,000 songs to your personal library
free of charge. There is a tool you install on your PC and it fingerprints
your songs and then puts 300kbps+ versions of the original with album art
and everything in your account. I highly recommend.

David.
-- 
David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

Do you have each website on its own machine or something?

I'm using web apps (not vms) for all my websites. $200 per month is plenty. I 
have four websites, each with database (and dev slots with their own database) 
as well as blob storage and some other stuff like AD. Granted they are not 
super high volume or big data but it's plenty.
You can use the cost calculator page to see where your biggest costs are (shown 
under history tab I think), it can be easy to add something and forget about it.

Sent from Outlook on iOS




On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:46 PM -0700, "Greg Keogh" 
> wrote:


I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs buying 
best in the breed local computing power.

In my spare time I'm attempting to replace the server that been sitting under 
my desk for 17 years (not the same one!) with cloud services. I've got 5 of my 
static web sites up in Azure at the moment and the last one will go up when I'm 
sure I can install the SSL certificate okay. A handful of simple SOAP and REST 
web services are also mapped as virtual directories and running in these static 
Azure sites.

GOOD: The performance is fabulous! Web sites don't have to "wake up" any more 
and everything responds and downloads in a blink. It's not taking up my 
broadband allowance. It's not burning my electricity.

BAD: I have to FTP up the files and deploy the apps. The Azure burn rate hints 
that without an MSDN free quota I would be paying about $700/year (WHAT! These 
sites and apps are mostly idle, so it's an appalling cost increase compared to 
running my own server box).

The last hurdles are replacing my old Mercury mail server with something 
upstairs, and where to put the 350 gigwatts of mp3 files.

GK

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Greg Keogh]

>
> I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs
> buying best in the breed local computing power.
>

In my spare time I'm attempting to replace the server that been sitting
under my desk for 17 years (not the same one!) with cloud services. I've
got 5 of my static web sites up in Azure at the moment and the last one
will go up when I'm sure I can install the SSL certificate okay. A handful
of simple SOAP and REST web services are also mapped as virtual directories
and running in these static Azure sites.

GOOD: The performance is fabulous! Web sites don't have to "wake up" any
more and everything responds and downloads in a blink. It's not taking up
my broadband allowance. It's not burning my electricity.

BAD: I have to FTP up the files and deploy the apps. The Azure burn rate
hints that without an MSDN free quota I would be paying about $700/year (
*WHAT!* These sites and apps are mostly idle, so it's an appalling cost
increase compared to running my own server box).

The last hurdles are replacing my old Mercury mail server with something
upstairs, and where to put the 350 gigwatts of mp3 files.

*GK*

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

I was actually starting to think this myself.

I have a vm on my Azure (mainly so we can browse the Internet as they have a 
barbaric white listed proxy, but have a port open to azure) and I have it with 
ssd's and 7gb or ram. Worked out the automation so it shuts down during non 
working hours. Gives me a gruntier machine and extends the credit.
Can even RDP to it from my iPad Pro and the MS RDP app is actually really good. 
Can toggle from touch mode to mouse. Starting to think  local hardware is less 
needed. Stuff like mobile dev where you need your phone plugged into the 
computer might not be as easy. But am liking the remote vm. Still leaning 
towards local hardware overall though. For now.

Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/kr63o9> on iOS




On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:52 PM -0700, "Tejas Goradia" 
<byteb...@gmail.com<mailto:byteb...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?

I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs buying 
best in the breed local computing power.

Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?

On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has been 
released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've successfully 
trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay" for it later. :)

It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be 
embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C port(s) 
but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it takes for 
devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.

Exciting times!

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD

Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc) $3,649.00 AUD 
(though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in Surface Book?)

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

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From: DotNet Dude<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>

In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozd

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

Yeah I have one of these as well. Rock solid.
On 6 Apr 2016 11:19, "Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)" <g...@greglow.com> wrote:

> Still loving my Dell E7440. Lightweight, and I fitted it with 16GB memory
> from Crucial, 2TB EVO SSD, and an LTE-A internal modem from Sierra
> Wireless. (Currently getting near 100MB/sec down and 45MB/sec up).
>
>
>
> Great machine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
> fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Walker
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 April 2016 8:34 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> i5 is fine though I struggle a little with only 8 GB of ram. Ssd way more
> important though.
>
> My mac - or the current equivalent - I bought last year seems to have
> jumped $1k which would have made it out of my bracket.
>
> On 6 Apr 2016 09:52, "Tejas Goradia" <byteb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?
>
> I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs
> buying best in the breed local computing power.
>
> Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?
>
> On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
> been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
>
> Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
> successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
> for it later. :)
>
>
>
> It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
> embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
>
> It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
> port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
> takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.
>
>
>
> Exciting times!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>
>
>
> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc) $3,649.00
> AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in Surface
> Book?)
>
>
>
> Jason Roberts
> Journeyman Software Developer
>
> Twitter: @robertsjason
> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>
> ===
> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
> ===
>
>
>
> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>
>
>
> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
> though
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>
> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
> locally
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
> the corre

RE: [OT] New laptop

[罗格雷格博士]

Still loving my Dell E7440. Lightweight, and I fitted it with 16GB memory from 
Crucial, 2TB EVO SSD, and an LTE-A internal modem from Sierra Wireless. 
(Currently getting near 100MB/sec down and 45MB/sec up).

Great machine.

Regards,

Greg

Dr Greg Low

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax
SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com<http://www.sqldownunder.com/>

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave Walker
Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2016 8:34 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop


i5 is fine though I struggle a little with only 8 GB of ram. Ssd way more 
important though.

My mac - or the current equivalent - I bought last year seems to have jumped 
$1k which would have made it out of my bracket.
On 6 Apr 2016 09:52, "Tejas Goradia" 
<byteb...@gmail.com<mailto:byteb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?

I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs buying 
best in the breed local computing power.

Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?
On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has been 
released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've successfully 
trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay" for it later. :)

It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be 
embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C port(s) 
but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it takes for 
devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.

Exciting times!

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD

Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc) $3,649.00 AUD 
(though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in Surface Book?)

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

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From: DotNet Dude<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>

In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.d

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

i5 is fine though I struggle a little with only 8 GB of ram. Ssd way more
important though.

My mac - or the current equivalent - I bought last year seems to have
jumped $1k which would have made it out of my bracket.
On 6 Apr 2016 09:52, "Tejas Goradia" <byteb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?
>
> I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs
> buying best in the breed local computing power.
>
> Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?
> On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
>>> been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
>>> Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
>>> successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
>>> for it later. :)
>>>
>>> It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
>>> embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
>>> It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
>>> port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
>>> takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.
>>>
>>> Exciting times!
>>>
>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>>>>
>>>> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc)
>>>> $3,649.00 AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in
>>>> Surface Book?)
>>>>
>>>> Jason Roberts
>>>> Journeyman Software Developer
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @robertsjason
>>>> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
>>>> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>
>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>>> though
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>>> there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their
>>>>>> new stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might 
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I r

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Preet Sangha]

I'm sort of looking at this now.  Since I have a powerful desktop at work I
can rdp from any piece of rubbish and still be productive.  However for
offline access and dev power is still needed so I'm still debating.

I like the idea of a lightweight i5 Mac type device to be honest.
On 6/04/2016 9:52 am, "Tejas Goradia" <byteb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?
>
> I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs
> buying best in the breed local computing power.
>
> Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?
> On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
>>> been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
>>> Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
>>> successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
>>> for it later. :)
>>>
>>> It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
>>> embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
>>> It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
>>> port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
>>> takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.
>>>
>>> Exciting times!
>>>
>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>>>>
>>>> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc)
>>>> $3,649.00 AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in
>>>> Surface Book?)
>>>>
>>>> Jason Roberts
>>>> Journeyman Software Developer
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @robertsjason
>>>> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
>>>> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>
>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>>> though
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>>> there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their
>>>>>> new stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might 
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>&

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tejas Goradia]

Just wondering, is it worth spending so much money on local computing?

I wonder how many people are now using Amazon or Azure as an option vs
buying best in the breed local computing power.

Is 8gb, i5 environment not enough?
On 29/10/2015 9:22 AM, "Tom Rutter" <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
>> been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
>> Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
>> successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
>> for it later. :)
>>
>> It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
>> embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
>> It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
>> port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
>> takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.
>>
>> Exciting times!
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>>>
>>> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc)
>>> $3,649.00 AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in
>>> Surface Book?)
>>>
>>> Jason Roberts
>>> Journeyman Software Developer
>>>
>>> Twitter: @robertsjason
>>> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
>>> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>>>
>>> ===
>>> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
>>> ===
>>>
>>> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>
>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>> though
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 2

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

I can’t say that this is a 100% fix, but I’ve had 0 display driver crashes 
since installing this yesterday evening. Looking good at this stage.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2015 4:22 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Display driver issue update - 
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-releasing-new-display-driver-surface-pro-4


On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 at 21:05 Dave Walker 
<rangitat...@gmail.com<mailto:rangitat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Another option(s) are Lenovos - I really like the look of the Yoga pro 3 and 
the X1 Carbon. X1 carbon is in the 'black friday' sale they have as well..

On 30 November 2015 at 22:28, David Rhys Jones 
<djones...@gmail.com<mailto:djones...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On a bit of a tangent, I started a new job a couple of weeks ago and was given 
a Dell Inspiron 7000, with windows 10 installed.  It was randomly resetting, 
locking up or keys stopped working. I searched on the web for solutions and 
came up with graphic card drivers as the cause, it wasn't

Eventually I installed a personal copy of Norton on my work machine, it found 
20+ viruses non of which Defender had caught. Then I ran this script to clean 
up the image.

fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\ usn deletejournal /d /n 
c: /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup& 
/scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /scannow 
/Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

After that it's been a joy to use.

Davy.


Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one last 
time just in case lol

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Greg Kennedy]

Display driver issue update -
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-releasing-new-display-driver-surface-pro-4


On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 at 21:05 Dave Walker <rangitat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Another option(s) are Lenovos - I really like the look of the Yoga pro 3
> and the X1 Carbon. X1 carbon is in the 'black friday' sale they have as
> well..
>
> On 30 November 2015 at 22:28, David Rhys Jones <djones...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On a bit of a tangent, I started a new job a couple of weeks ago and was
>> given a Dell Inspiron 7000, with windows 10 installed.  It was randomly
>> resetting, locking up or keys stopped working. I searched on the web for
>> solutions and came up with graphic card drivers as the cause, it wasn't
>>
>> Eventually I installed a personal copy of Norton on my work machine, it
>> found 20+ viruses non of which Defender had caught. Then I ran this script
>> to clean up the image.
>>
>> fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\ usn deletejournal /d /n
>> c: /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup&
>> /scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
>> /scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
>> /ResetBase
>>
>> After that it's been a joy to use.
>>
>> Davy.
>>
>>
>> *Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes*.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm
>>> probably going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd
>>> check one last time just in case lol
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <
>>> step...@perthprojects.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new
>>>>>> Surface Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be
>>>>>> expensive though
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what 
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their
>>>>>>>> new stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might 
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo,
>>>>>>>> etc) BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember 
>>>>>>>> reading
>>&g

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

Another option(s) are Lenovos - I really like the look of the Yoga pro 3
and the X1 Carbon. X1 carbon is in the 'black friday' sale they have as
well..

On 30 November 2015 at 22:28, David Rhys Jones <djones...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On a bit of a tangent, I started a new job a couple of weeks ago and was
> given a Dell Inspiron 7000, with windows 10 installed.  It was randomly
> resetting, locking up or keys stopped working. I searched on the web for
> solutions and came up with graphic card drivers as the cause, it wasn't
>
> Eventually I installed a personal copy of Norton on my work machine, it
> found 20+ viruses non of which Defender had caught. Then I ran this script
> to clean up the image.
>
> fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\ usn deletejournal /d /n
> c: /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup&
> /scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
> /scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
> /ResetBase
>
> After that it's been a joy to use.
>
> Davy.
>
>
> *Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes*.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm
>> probably going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd
>> check one last time just in case lol
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <
>> step...@perthprojects.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>>>> though
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their
>>>>>>> new stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might 
>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading 
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with 
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
&g

Re: [OT] New laptop

[David Rhys Jones]

On a bit of a tangent, I started a new job a couple of weeks ago and was
given a Dell Inspiron 7000, with windows 10 installed.  It was randomly
resetting, locking up or keys stopped working. I searched on the web for
solutions and came up with graphic card drivers as the cause, it wasn't

Eventually I installed a personal copy of Norton on my work machine, it
found 20+ viruses non of which Defender had caught. Then I ran this script
to clean up the image.

fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\ usn deletejournal /d /n
c: /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup&
/scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
/scannow /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
/ResetBase

After that it's been a joy to use.

Davy.


*Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes*.


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm
> probably going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd
> check one last time just in case lol
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>>> though
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>>> there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their
>>>>>> new stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might 
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where Microsoft could really m

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

I agree that this probably isn’t Surface Book specific – I was talking to some 
of our EUC guys last week, and they’re reporting the same problems on the new 
Skylake Lenovo laptops we’ve been given for testing as well.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015 8:29 AM
To: 'ozDotNet' <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: RE: [OT] New laptop

>> Display driver still crashes, but not as often as prior to the last system 
>> update.
I get this all the time for my Intel driver. I am not on a surface book though, 
just a regular gigabyte P34. My colleague also gets the display driver crashing 
regularly and restarting causing small pauses as it recovers. Happens to me a 
few times a day since the latest Win10 update.


-  Glav

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Friday, 27 November 2015 12:45 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: RE: [OT] New laptop

Mine’s arguably getting less stable – several BSODs over the past few days 
(INTERNAL_POWER_ERROR) after redocking. Either that, or the unit just locks up 
requiring a power-off.
Display driver still crashes, but not as often as prior to the last system 
update.

Hardware wise, it’s a great laptop (do take note of Stephen’s comment re being 
able to push the screen back – it makes it important to have your desk at the 
right height to allow you to use it ergonomically. Same issue that affected the 
Lenovo Helix, Samsung Ativ etc.). It’s just a pity that the software lets it 
down. On the positive note, software issues can be fixed relatively easily I 
guess.

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm
probably going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd
check one last time just in case lol

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
wrote:

> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>> though
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>>>> available in Australia…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>>>> manufacturer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR
>>>>> things happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would
>>>>> have had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds 
>>>>> about
>>>>> the competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Koster
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Meski
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[stephen]

No deal breakers so far, still love it. 

Two things I have noticed after using it for a week now.
The screen/lid when opened to its maximum angle is fine when sitting in front 
of it, but I have noticed a couple of times thinking it would be nice if it 
opened a tiny bit more. Mainly when using it at an odd angle, ie to the left of 
my desktop at work. 
The other odd thing is the feet seem slippery on the desk. Like a mouse slides. 
Might end up on the floor

Got another firmware update this morning. Three now since I got it, so 
hopefully more stability. Camera was blue screening but that's fixed now

Cheers
Stephen
Ps also I've noticed I neglect my other computers now

> On 25 Nov 2015, at 9:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
> going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one 
> last time just in case lol
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>> 
>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface 
>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive 
>>>> though
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced 
>>>>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new 
>>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer 
>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>> To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always 
>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
>>>>>> <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
>>>>>> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when 
>>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with 
>>>>>> all the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is a link to their US store: 
>>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>>>> To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
>>>>>> <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would 
>>>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition 
>>>>>> laptops/PCs avail

Re: [OT] New laptop

[osjasonroberts]

Hi Stephen, are you using the new dock/multi monitor


http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msaus/en_AU/pdp/Microsoft-Surface-Dock/productID.326743400


Notice there are some negative reviews 








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From: step...@lythixdesigns.com
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎25‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎45‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet






No deal breakers so far, still love it. 




Two things I have noticed after using it for a week now.

The screen/lid when opened to its maximum angle is fine when sitting in front 
of it, but I have noticed a couple of times thinking it would be nice if it 
opened a tiny bit more. Mainly when using it at an odd angle, ie to the left of 
my desktop at work. 

The other odd thing is the feet seem slippery on the desk. Like a mouse slides. 
Might end up on the floor




Got another firmware update this morning. Three now since I got it, so 
hopefully more stability. Camera was blue screening but that's fixed now




Cheers

Stephen

Ps also I've noticed I neglect my other computers now


On 25 Nov 2015, at 9:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:





Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one last 
time just in case lol



On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> 
wrote:

Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.




On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:



Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?



On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:


In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though



On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there



On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:




Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally


 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> 
wrote:




The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:




This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…


 


Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


 




 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:







What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?


 


Are you talking about Superfish?


 


http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/


 


Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...


 


--


Thomas Koster


 






 

-- 


Meski
















 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv




"Going to Starbucks for coffee is l

Re: [OT] New laptop

[stephen]

Yeah, I did get the dock.
Not really used it much yet. I did have some issues initially (didn't detect I 
had external monitors) but reboot of surface book fixed that. 
Picked up two dp to mini-dp cables last night and works well with two screens 
(and laptop screen as well). Using a dell 30" and Samsung monitor. 
Not tried a 4K screen yet.
Not sure if I will put laptop in front with two screens behind/ either side and 
use keyboard on the laptop, or put the laptop to one side and use 
keyboard/mouse and two screens. Seems a waste to not use the surface book 
screen, it's beautiful.

> On 25 Nov 2015, at 10:47 AM, "osjasonrobe...@gmail.com" 
> <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, are you using the new dock/multi monitor
> 
> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msaus/en_AU/pdp/Microsoft-Surface-Dock/productID.326743400
> 
> Notice there are some negative reviews
> 
> 
> Jason Roberts
> Journeyman Software Developer
> 
> Twitter: @robertsjason
> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
> 
> ===
> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
> ===
> 
> From: step...@lythixdesigns.com
> Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎25‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎45‎ ‎AM
> To: ozDotNet
> 
> No deal breakers so far, still love it. 
> 
> Two things I have noticed after using it for a week now.
> The screen/lid when opened to its maximum angle is fine when sitting in front 
> of it, but I have noticed a couple of times thinking it would be nice if it 
> opened a tiny bit more. Mainly when using it at an odd angle, ie to the left 
> of my desktop at work. 
> The other odd thing is the feet seem slippery on the desk. Like a mouse 
> slides. Might end up on the floor
> 
> Got another firmware update this morning. Three now since I got it, so 
> hopefully more stability. Camera was blue screening but that's fixed now
> 
> Cheers
> Stephen
> Ps also I've noticed I neglect my other computers now
> 
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 9:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
> going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one 
> last time just in case lol
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>> 
>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface 
>>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive 
>>>> though
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced 
>>>>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new 
>>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer 
>>>>>> the same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>>> To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always 
>>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
>>>>>> <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
>>>>>> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when 
>>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, 

Re: [OT] New laptop

[osjasonroberts]

Cool, thanks 






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From: step...@lythixdesigns.com
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎25‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎11‎:‎02‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet





Yeah, I did get the dock.

Not really used it much yet. I did have some issues initially (didn't detect I 
had external monitors) but reboot of surface book fixed that. 

Picked up two dp to mini-dp cables last night and works well with two screens 
(and laptop screen as well). Using a dell 30" and Samsung monitor. 

Not tried a 4K screen yet.

Not sure if I will put laptop in front with two screens behind/ either side and 
use keyboard on the laptop, or put the laptop to one side and use 
keyboard/mouse and two screens. Seems a waste to not use the surface book 
screen, it's beautiful.


On 25 Nov 2015, at 10:47 AM, "osjasonrobe...@gmail.com" 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi Stephen, are you using the new dock/multi monitor




http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msaus/en_AU/pdp/Microsoft-Surface-Dock/productID.326743400




Notice there are some negative reviews 








Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

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From: step...@lythixdesigns.com
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎25‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎45‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet






No deal breakers so far, still love it. 




Two things I have noticed after using it for a week now.

The screen/lid when opened to its maximum angle is fine when sitting in front 
of it, but I have noticed a couple of times thinking it would be nice if it 
opened a tiny bit more. Mainly when using it at an odd angle, ie to the left of 
my desktop at work. 

The other odd thing is the feet seem slippery on the desk. Like a mouse slides. 
Might end up on the floor




Got another firmware update this morning. Three now since I got it, so 
hopefully more stability. Camera was blue screening but that's fixed now




Cheers

Stephen

Ps also I've noticed I neglect my other computers now


On 25 Nov 2015, at 9:14 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:





Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one last 
time just in case lol



On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> 
wrote:

Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.




On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:



Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?



On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:


In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though



On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there



On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:




Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally


 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> 
wrote:




The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:




This is where Microsoft could 

RE: [OT] New laptop

[罗格雷格博士]

Have a chat to Adam Cogan. Adam’s bought a bunch of them and been posting in 
various lists about issues. Just see if anything is relevant.

Regards,

Greg

Dr Greg Low

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax
SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com<http://www.sqldownunder.com/>

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of step...@lythixdesigns.com
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2015 11:45 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

No deal breakers so far, still love it.


Two things I have noticed after using it for a week now.
The screen/lid when opened to its maximum angle is fine when sitting in front 
of it, but I have noticed a couple of times thinking it would be nice if it 
opened a tiny bit more. Mainly when using it at an odd angle, ie to the left of 
my desktop at work.
The other odd thing is the feet seem slippery on the desk. Like a mouse slides. 
Might end up on the floor


Got another firmware update this morning. Three now since I got it, so 
hopefully more stability. Camera was blue screening but that's fixed now


Cheers
Stephen
Ps also I've noticed I neglect my other computers now

On 25 Nov 2015, at 9:14 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Any updates on the surface book guys? Any deal breakers pop up? I'm probably 
going to put in an order today and break the bank so thought I'd check one last 
time just in case lol

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

Are you talking about Superfish?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-mid

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>> though
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
>>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>> purchased locally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>>> available in Australia…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>>> manufacturer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR
>>>> things happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
>>>> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
>>>> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Koster
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Meski
>>>>
>>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Michael Ridland]

Just wondering what laptops you've owned in the past, how does it compare
to a MacBook Pro?


On Tuesday, 17 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
wrote:

> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','therut...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','adotnetd...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>> though
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','adotnetd...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k...@adopenstatic.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>>>> available in Australia…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>>>> manufacturer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR
>>>>> things happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would
>>>>> have had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds 
>>>>> about
>>>>> the competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Koster
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Meski
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

-- 

*Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP*

XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists

www.xam-consulting.com

Blog: www.michaelridland.com

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Any dislikes yet?
How are the keyboard and touchpad?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
wrote:

> Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
>
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>>> though
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be
>>>> announced oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>>> purchased locally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>>>> available in Australia…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>>>> manufacturer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR
>>>>> things happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would
>>>>> have had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds 
>>>>> about
>>>>> the competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Koster
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Meski
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

3.5kg…

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:22 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming quad core Xeon based lenovos?

http://www.notebookreview.com/feature/lenovo-thinkpad-p50-and-p70-first-look-preview/

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

===
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===

From: Ken Schaefer<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎17‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎10‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>

I’ve found my keyboard and touchpad to be fine. But then I don’t really care 
what keyboard I use, and I don’t use touchpads (external mouse for me). That 
said, the touchpad is quite good.

Of the main problems reported re the SB:

a)  BSODs – I’ve had one – related to the video card drivers

b)  Video card driver falling over – happens to me all the time – maybe 
once every 30 minutes. Screen freezes for a fraction of a second then comes 
back. Possibly a problem if you are in the middle of a game, but no biggie if 
just doing regular work.

c)   Losing cursor when undocking/redocking – haven’t had this happen me

d)  Popping audio – haven’t had this either

Screen is bright, undock works well. Hoping that the various problems can be 
solved via software updates.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:49 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any dislikes yet?
How are the keyboard and touchpad?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
> though
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>> purchased locally
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
>>> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>> available in Australia…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>> manufacturer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
>>> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
>>> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
>>> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thomas Koster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Meski
>>>
>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>
>>>
>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

I thought I did when I said "yep"

My bad :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Nov 2015, at 12:30 PM, Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA) <
andrew.coa...@microsoft.com> wrote:

You could have said **that** when I asked you about it today in front of
2000+ people J



Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1
Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 •
http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat



*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
*Sent:* Tuesday, 17 November 2015 9:45 AM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:

Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?



On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though



On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there



On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
same online I guess, once the store opens.







*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
*Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
locally



On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..



Here is a link to their US store:
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoftstore.com%2fstore%2fmsusa%2fen_US%2fcat%2fcategoryID.69916600=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=4laOC6mO%2fxvUrZjkRvwjfgkYVbW4tMFOrHDtPZFpivw%3d>





*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
*Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
available in Australia…



Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?





*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
*Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:

What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?



Are you talking about Superfish?



http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2farstechnica.com%2fsecurity%2f2015%2f02%2flenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections%2f=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=a3A9nW0NPzPV9hTPyLRsYE8xH2GElTXoqX2Sz7bMF60%3d>



Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had
to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...



--

Thomas Koster







-- 

Meski

 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcourteous.ly%2faAOZcv=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=WGKEGwCKW89lcCXD9sYCwxGvlpbklFKC03P%2biSllQvg%3d>


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

I’ve found my keyboard and touchpad to be fine. But then I don’t really care 
what keyboard I use, and I don’t use touchpads (external mouse for me). That 
said, the touchpad is quite good.

Of the main problems reported re the SB:

a)  BSODs – I’ve had one – related to the video card drivers

b)  Video card driver falling over – happens to me all the time – maybe 
once every 30 minutes. Screen freezes for a fraction of a second then comes 
back. Possibly a problem if you are in the middle of a game, but no biggie if 
just doing regular work.

c)   Losing cursor when undocking/redocking – haven’t had this happen me

d)  Popping audio – haven’t had this either

Screen is bright, undock works well. Hoping that the various problems can be 
solved via software updates.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:49 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any dislikes yet?
How are the keyboard and touchpad?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

Are you talking about Superfish?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

--
Thomas Koster




--
Meski
 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA)]

You could have said *that* when I asked you about it today in front of 2000+ 
people ☺

Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping 
Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • 
http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 9:45 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoftstore.com%2fstore%2fmsusa%2fen_US%2fcat%2fcategoryID.69916600=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=4laOC6mO%2fxvUrZjkRvwjfgkYVbW4tMFOrHDtPZFpivw%3d>


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

Are you talking about Superfish?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2farstechnica.com%2fsecurity%2f2015%2f02%2flenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections%2f=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=a3A9nW0NPzPV9hTPyLRsYE8xH2GElTXoqX2Sz7bMF60%3d>

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

--
Thomas Koster




--
Meski
 
http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcourteous.ly%2faAOZcv=01%7c01%7cACOAT%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c536a667a1bb14f7db36908d2eee00a2c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7c

Re: [OT] New laptop

[osjasonroberts]

Anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming quad core Xeon based lenovos? 


http://www.notebookreview.com/feature/lenovo-thinkpad-p50-and-p70-first-look-preview/






Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

===
I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
===





From: Ken Schaefer
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎17‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎10‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet






I’ve found my keyboard and touchpad to be fine. But then I don’t really care 
what keyboard I use, and I don’t use touchpads (external mouse for me). That 
said, the touchpad is quite good.

 

Of the main problems reported re the SB:

a)  BSODs – I’ve had one – related to the video card drivers

b)  Video card driver falling over – happens to me all the time – maybe 
once every 30 minutes. Screen freezes for a fraction of a second then comes 
back. Possibly a problem if you are in the middle of a game, but no biggie if 
just doing regular work.

c)   Losing cursor when undocking/redocking – haven’t had this happen me

d)  Popping audio – haven’t had this either

 

Screen is bright, undock works well. Hoping that the various problems can be 
solved via software updates.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:49 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Any dislikes yet?


How are the keyboard and touchpad?


 


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> 
wrote:


Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.



 



On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> wrote:



Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?


 


On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:



In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though



 


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:


I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there





On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:




Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally


 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> 
wrote:




The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:




This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…


 


Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


 




 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:







What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?


 


Are you talking about Superfish?


 


http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/


 


Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...


 


--


Thomas Koster


 






 

-- 


M

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Jorke Odolphi]

Keep them off your lap…?

From: <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> on 
behalf of "osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>" 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:21 pm
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming quad core Xeon based lenovos?

http://www.notebookreview.com/feature/lenovo-thinkpad-p50-and-p70-first-look-preview/

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

===
I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
===

From: Ken Schaefer<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎17‎ ‎November‎ ‎2015 ‎9‎:‎10‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>

I’ve found my keyboard and touchpad to be fine. But then I don’t really care 
what keyboard I use, and I don’t use touchpads (external mouse for me). That 
said, the touchpad is quite good.

Of the main problems reported re the SB:

a)  BSODs – I’ve had one – related to the video card drivers

b)  Video card driver falling over – happens to me all the time – maybe 
once every 30 minutes. Screen freezes for a fraction of a second then comes 
back. Possibly a problem if you are in the middle of a game, but no biggie if 
just doing regular work.

c)   Losing cursor when undocking/redocking – haven’t had this happen me

d)  Popping audio – haven’t had this either

Screen is bright, undock works well. Hoping that the various problems can be 
solved via software updates.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:49 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any dislikes yet?
How are the keyboard and touchpad?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Still early days but so far it's the best laptop I've owned. Ever.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 at 9:33 AM, Tom Rutter 
<therut...@gmail.com<mailto:therut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have any devs here had a play with the surface book yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there


On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edit

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Geez had a look and it gets expensive real quick

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
wrote:

> I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
> been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
> Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
> successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
> for it later. :)
>
> It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
> embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
> It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
> port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
> takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.
>
> Exciting times!
>
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>>
>> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc)
>> $3,649.00 AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in
>> Surface Book?)
>>
>> Jason Roberts
>> Journeyman Software Developer
>>
>> Twitter: @robertsjason
>> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
>> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>>
>> ===
>> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
>> ===
>>
>> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>
>> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
>> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
>> though
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
>>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>>> purchased locally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc)
>>>> BUT stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>>> available in Australia…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>>> manufacturer?
>&

Re: [OT] New laptop

[osjasonroberts]

Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD 


Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc) $3,649.00 AUD 
(though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in Surface Book?)






Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

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From: DotNet Dude
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet





In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book 
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though



On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced oct 6 
so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there



On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:




Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally


 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com> 
wrote:




The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:




This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…


 


Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


 




 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 




On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:







What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?


 


Are you talking about Superfish?


 


http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/


 


Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...


 


--


Thomas Koster


 






 

-- 


Meski
















 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv




"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

I've ordered mine. If the 1Tb version was available (no date on that has
been released yet) I would have gotten that one. Shut up and take my money!
Have disclosed said pre-order to my significant other, and I've
successfully trained her to react with a simple eye roll. I'll likely "pay"
for it later. :)

It's a great feeling to not have to drool over Apple hardware and be
embarrassed about being in the Microsoft camp.
It would have been nice for the Surface Book to have come with Usb-C
port(s) but given I don't actually yet have any devices, and how long it
takes for devices to spring up, I can live with USB 3.0 for a while more.

Exciting times!

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 at 08:49 <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah - looks pretty nice, 512GB / i7/ 16GB for $4,199 AUD
>
> Compared to similar spec Lenovo ThinkPad W541 (no touch/pen/etc) $3,649.00
> AUD (though I think the Lenovo is 5th Gen i7 not 6th Gen as in Surface
> Book?)
>
> Jason Roberts
> Journeyman Software Developer
>
> Twitter: @robertsjason
> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>
> ===
> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
> ===
>
> *From:* DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎7‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎5‎:‎18‎ ‎PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>
> In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface
> Book will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive
> though
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
>> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always
>>> purchased locally
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
>>> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a link to their US store:
>>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>>> available in Australia…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their
>>> manufacturer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
>>> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
>>> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
>>> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thomas Koster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Meski
>>>
>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>
>>>
>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[DotNet Dude]

In case anyone here hasn't heard yet and is interested the new Surface Book
will apparently be available in Oz on Nov 12th. Looks to be expensive though

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
> oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>
>> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
>> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
>> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
>> locally
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
>> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
>> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
>> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a link to their US store:
>> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
>> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would
>> stop thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
>> available in Australia…
>>
>>
>>
>> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
>> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you talking about Superfish?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>>
>>
>>
>> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
>> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
>> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thomas Koster
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Meski
>>
>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>
>>
>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>
>>
>>
>

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Eddie de Bear (Gmail)]

Off the top of my head, there are two issues. One is the power supply, the 
other is warranty.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com 
<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>  
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> ] 
On Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <eddie.deb...@gmail.com 
<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

 

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>  
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> ] 
On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com 
<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

 

Are you talking about Superfish?

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

 

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

 

--

Thomas Koster

 





 

-- 

Meski


  <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

 

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

Some manufacturers offer international warranties? I had a laptop from UK
while based here in NZ and dell had a guy out same day it died to replace
the hard drive.
On 23 Sep 2015 18:20, "Eddie de Bear (Gmail)" <eddie.deb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Off the top of my head, there are two issues. One is the power supply, the
> other is warranty.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
> locally
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>
>
>
> Here is a link to their US store:
> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
> thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
> available in Australia…
>
>
>
> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>
>
>
> Are you talking about Superfish?
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>
>
>
> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thomas Koster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
>
>

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new stores 
in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the same online 
I guess, once the store opens.



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased 
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
<eddie.deb...@gmail.com<mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, 
<osjasonrobe...@gmail.com<mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

Are you talking about Superfish?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

--
Thomas Koster




--
Meski
 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] New laptop

[DotNet Dude]

I also read somewhere next version of Surface Pro likely to be announced
oct 6 so anyone interested may want to wait to see what happens there

On Thursday, 24 September 2015, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> Microsoft are going to start offering Signature editions via their new
> stores in Aus (first one opening soon-ish in Sydney). They might offer the
> same online I guess, once the store opens.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');> [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2015 3:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com');>>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
> locally
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eddie.deb...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>
>
>
> Here is a link to their US store:
> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');> [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');>] *On
> Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com');>>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eddie.deb...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
> thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
> available in Australia…
>
>
>
> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');> [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com');>>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','osjasonrobe...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>
>
>
> Are you talking about Superfish?
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>
>
>
> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thomas Koster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
>
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Any things to look out for if I buy direct from US? I've always purchased
locally

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
> stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
> Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
> the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..
>
>
>
> Here is a link to their US store:
> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) <
> eddie.deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
> thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
> available in Australia…
>
>
>
> Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop
>
>
>
> On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, <osjasonrobe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
> happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?
>
>
>
> Are you talking about Superfish?
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/
>
>
>
> Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
> had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
> competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thomas Koster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

I don't think the HP x360 Spectre I was talking about is a MS Signature
model, but I do know Microsoft had a big part in its design. Some kind of
partnership I think.
Actually, you can buy it in a Signature edition. I found it listed in the
US Microsoft store. I guess the difference is no bloatware installed. Not
that I noticed anything horrible on mine except for Mcafee.
Here's the article I read on the design with Microsoft story.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/01/hp-spectre-x360/


On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 at 12:31 Eddie de Bear (Gmail) eddie.deb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT
 stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when
 Microsoft first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all
 the correct tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..



 Here is a link to their US store:
 http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600





 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
 *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM


 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
 eddie.deb...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
 thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
 available in Australia…



 Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?





 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
 *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote:

 What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
 happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?



 Are you talking about Superfish?




 http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/



 Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
 had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
 competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...



 --

 Thomas Koster







 --

 Meski

  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
 you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Grant Maw]

I recently bought an Alienware 15 with Win 8.1 Pro pre-installed.

It upgraded to Win 10 without a hitch and has been working perfectly ever
since. It's even faster than it was under 8.1, which seems like a distant
memory now.

On 25 August 2015 at 20:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[mike smith]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) 
eddie.deb...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
 thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
 available in Australia…


Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?




 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
 *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote:

 What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
 happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?



 Are you talking about Superfish?




 http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/



 Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
 had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
 competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...



 --

 Thomas Koster






-- 
Meski

 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 Is the win key really a deal-breaker?   I don't find myself using it on a
 Windows machine.  OTOH, the 'feel' of MBP keyboards is a dealbreaker, if I
 use it all day I'm on a plug-in keyboard (and monitor (via thunderbolt))


 I actually use the win key a lot but can always remap the macbook keys I
guess. I guess I can adapt to any keyboard after a while




 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers









 --
 Meski

  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
 you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Eddie de Bear (Gmail)]

The Signature Editions are the exact same machines (HP, Lenovo, etc) BUT 
stripped bare of all the crapware.. From what I remember reading when Microsoft 
first started with them, it’s a clean windows install, with all the correct 
tweeks, drivers etc to get the most out of the hardware..

 

Here is a link to their US store: 
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:11 PM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) eddie.deb...@gmail.com 
mailto:eddie.deb...@gmail.com  wrote:

This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

 

Do they make them (or rebadge) ?  If the former, whose their manufacturer?

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] 
On Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com 
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com 
mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com  wrote:

What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

 

Are you talking about Superfish?

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

 

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

 

--

Thomas Koster

 





 

-- 

Meski


  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll 
get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] New laptop

[osjasonroberts]

What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?






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From: Christopher Walsh
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎27‎ ‎August‎ ‎2015 ‎1‎:‎32‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet






The XPS 13” QHD model was OK, limited to a 256GB SSD in AU, but the Bluetooth 
Windows 8.1  Windows 10 drivers for it suck.  

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2015 9:53 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


There was an interesting review on cnet for new laptops at ces 2015. 
http://www.cnet.com/news/lighter-laptops-longer-lasting-batteries-for-computers-at-ces-2015/


 


As much as I dislike Dell, it suggests that the latest Dell XPS 13 is worthy of 
a look.


 


There's also a review on cnet for the 2015 xps 13 which has some interteresting 
performance comparisons with a few of the other options: 
http://www.cnet.com/au/products/dell-xps-13-2015/2/


 


T.


 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com 
wrote:



Yeah the top model was hard to get (had to wait three weeks and they got three 
units into the store) but I'm pretty sure it was listed on the Harvey Norman 
website. It was a few months ago now so not looked lately. 



 



On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 09:32 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:



I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code so 
can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 


 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com 
wrote:



Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought it and 
I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store warranties 
but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for an equivalent 
spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs up the the top 
model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it again on the new 
one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its the original purchase 
price as store credit which is better because the specs get better over time 
but the price seems to stay constant). 


I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be 
exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 



On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:



If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 


 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com 
wrote:


HP x360, Spectre that is. 



On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:


I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a 
laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro which is 
tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important difference 
(for me).
Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great battery 
but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never is!) 
Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not silver. If 
you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the letters. My only 
complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest they go which is enough 
but always love more



On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:



c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering 
macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 


 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:




What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 


Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a little 
annoying


 


Cheers


 


On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:



I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.


 


On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:



Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?


 


Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[DotNet Dude]

Don't know about that specific model but I've been screwed by Dell twice
before and never going back to them. I'd avoid them. F U Dell

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Christopher Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote:

 The XPS 13” QHD model was OK, limited to a 256GB SSD in AU, but the
 Bluetooth Windows 8.1  Windows 10 drivers for it suck.



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
 *Sent:* Thursday, 27 August 2015 9:53 AM

 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 There was an interesting review on cnet for new laptops at ces 2015.
 http://www.cnet.com/news/lighter-laptops-longer-lasting-batteries-for-computers-at-ces-2015/



 As much as I dislike Dell, it suggests that the latest Dell XPS 13 is
 worthy of a look.



 There's also a review on cnet for the 2015 xps 13 which has some
 interteresting performance comparisons with a few of the other options:
 http://www.cnet.com/au/products/dell-xps-13-2015/2/



 T.



 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 Yeah the top model was hard to get (had to wait three weeks and they got
 three units into the store) but I'm pretty sure it was listed on the Harvey
 Norman website. It was a few months ago now so not looked lately.



 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 09:32 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code
 so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040





 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).

 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be
 exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)



 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?





 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.

 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a
 laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
 which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
 difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not silver.
 If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the letters. My
 only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest they go which
 is enough but always love more

 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering
 macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down





 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Thomas Koster]

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote:

 What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
 happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?


Are you talking about Superfish?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had
to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

--
Thomas Koster

Re: [OT] New laptop

[mike smith]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering
 macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


Is the win key really a deal-breaker?   I don't find myself using it on a
Windows machine.  OTOH, the 'feel' of MBP keyboards is a dealbreaker, if I
use it all day I'm on a plug-in keyboard (and monitor (via thunderbolt))





 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers









-- 
Meski

 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Eddie de Bear (Gmail)]

This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop 
thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs available 
in Australia…

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koster
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

 

On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com 
mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com  wrote:

What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things happen 
in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?

 

Are you talking about Superfish?

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

 

Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have had to 
sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the competence 
and trustworthiness of Lenovo...

 

--

Thomas Koster

 

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

Oh lenovo yoga 3 pro is meant to be awesome.
On 28 Aug 2015 12:45, Eddie de Bear (Gmail) eddie.deb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This is where Microsoft could really make a difference, if they would stop
 thinking about just the US and make the Signature Edition laptops/PCs
 available in Australia…



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Koster
 *Sent:* Friday, 28 August 2015 10:09 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 On 27 August 2015 at 19:28, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote:

 What’s peoples views on Lenovo ATM given there have been a few PR things
 happen in the last 12 months…? price v performance v reliability?



 Are you talking about Superfish?




 http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/



 Consider how this could have happened and all the people who would have
 had to sign off on this. I'll let people make up their own minds about the
 competence and trustworthiness of Lenovo...



 --

 Thomas Koster

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering
macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a
laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
difference (for me).
Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
is!)
Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not silver.
If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the letters. My
only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest they go which
is enough but always love more
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering
 macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

HP x360, Spectre that is.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a
 laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
 which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
 difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not silver.
 If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the letters. My
 only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest they go which
 is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
 little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought it
and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be
exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's
 a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
 which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
 difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was
 a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a
 laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
 which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
 difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was
 a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code
so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be
 exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
  wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's
 a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro
 which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important
 difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Christopher Walsh]

The XPS 13” QHD model was OK, limited to a 256GB SSD in AU, but the Bluetooth 
Windows 8.1  Windows 10 drivers for it suck.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2015 9:53 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

There was an interesting review on cnet for new laptops at ces 2015. 
http://www.cnet.com/news/lighter-laptops-longer-lasting-batteries-for-computers-at-ces-2015/

As much as I dislike Dell, it suggests that the latest Dell XPS 13 is worthy of 
a look.

There's also a review on cnet for the 2015 xps 13 which has some interteresting 
performance comparisons with a few of the other options: 
http://www.cnet.com/au/products/dell-xps-13-2015/2/

T.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
Yeah the top model was hard to get (had to wait three weeks and they got three 
units into the store) but I'm pretty sure it was listed on the Harvey Norman 
website. It was a few months ago now so not looked lately.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 09:32 Tom Rutter 
therut...@gmail.commailto:therut...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code so 
can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought it and 
I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store warranties 
but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for an equivalent 
spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs up the the top 
model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it again on the new 
one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its the original purchase 
price as store credit which is better because the specs get better over time 
but the price seems to stay constant).
I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be 
exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter 
therut...@gmail.commailto:therut...@gmail.com wrote:
If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
HP x360, Spectre that is.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that it's a 
laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface pro which is 
tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but important difference 
(for me).
Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great battery 
but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never is!)
Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not silver. If 
you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the letters. My only 
complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest they go which is enough 
but always love more
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter 
therut...@gmail.commailto:therut...@gmail.com wrote:
c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight. Considering 
macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer 
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a little 
annoying

Cheers

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker 
rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.

On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter 
therut...@gmail.commailto:therut...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tony Wright]

As the review shows, it wouldn't be a bad choice to go macbook just from a
technical point of view. They both look like they have their pluses and
minuses. I know it was mentioned that there is no Windows key, but is it
possible to map the apple command key to the window key?

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Bec C bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 For prices like that you could get a macbook and never look back :-)

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount
 code so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might
 be exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build.
 Great battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It
 never is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[DotNet Dude]

So people actually use the touchscreen? I never do

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe if they came out with touchscreen model this year. Though I just
 bought a new Mac last year so def won't be buying another for some time.
 On 27 Aug 2015 13:59, Bec C bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 For prices like that you could get a macbook and never look back :-)

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount
 code so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I
 bought it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in
 store warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit
 for an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the
 specs up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so
 got it again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent
 spec, its the original purchase price as store credit which is better
 because the specs get better over time but the price seems to stay
 constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might
 be exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to 
 surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build.
 Great battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It
 never is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me 
 down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
  wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker 
 rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Bec C]

For prices like that you could get a macbook and never look back :-)

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code
 so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
  wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be
 exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

Maybe if they came out with touchscreen model this year. Though I just
bought a new Mac last year so def won't be buying another for some time.
On 27 Aug 2015 13:59, Bec C bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 For prices like that you could get a macbook and never look back :-)

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount
 code so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might
 be exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build.
 Great battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It
 never is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Stephen Price]

Yeah the top model was hard to get (had to wait three weeks and they got
three units into the store) but I'm pretty sure it was listed on the Harvey
Norman website. It was a few months ago now so not looked lately.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 09:32 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount code
 so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
  wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might be
 exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build. Great
 battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It never
 is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tony Wright]

There was an interesting review on cnet for new laptops at ces 2015.
http://www.cnet.com/news/lighter-laptops-longer-lasting-batteries-for-computers-at-ces-2015/

As much as I dislike Dell, it suggests that the latest Dell XPS 13 is
worthy of a look.

There's also a review on cnet for the 2015 xps 13 which has some
interteresting performance comparisons with a few of the other options:
http://www.cnet.com/au/products/dell-xps-13-2015/2/

T.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 Yeah the top model was hard to get (had to wait three weeks and they got
 three units into the store) but I'm pretty sure it was listed on the Harvey
 Norman website. It was a few months ago now so not looked lately.

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 09:32 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount
 code so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I bought
 it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in store
 warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store credit for
 an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the specs
 up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so got it
 again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent spec, its
 the original purchase price as store credit which is better because the
 specs get better over time but the price seems to stay constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might
 be exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build.
 Great battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It
 never is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard
 was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

It actually can add to the experience quite significantly I've found. More
for browsing the Web and that sort of thing where gestures have become
common place. Loses alot of its value when using in conjunction with a
mouse.
On 27 Aug 2015 14:13, DotNet Dude adotnetd...@gmail.com wrote:

 So people actually use the touchscreen? I never do

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Maybe if they came out with touchscreen model this year. Though I just
 bought a new Mac last year so def won't be buying another for some time.
 On 27 Aug 2015 13:59, Bec C bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 For prices like that you could get a macbook and never look back :-)

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I can't see the top model anywhere but HP site. Also found a discount
 code so can get 15% off making the $2400 one down to $2040


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Harvey Norman. I had an old Samsung that died 2 1/2 years after I
 bought it and I had their new for old warranty. I don't usually get the in
 store warranties but for some reason I had. I basically got in store 
 credit
 for an equivalent spec'd machine. I added some extra ($500) to bring the
 specs up the the top model and was kind of impressed with that warranty so
 got it again on the new one. (this time around it's not for equivalent
 spec, its the original purchase price as store credit which is better
 because the specs get better over time but the price seems to stay
 constant).
 I think JB-HiFi also have that laptop but the QHD screen version might
 be exclusive to Harvey Norman (or it was at the time?)

 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 at 07:24 Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 If u dont mind me asking where did you buy it from?


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 HP x360, Spectre that is.
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 5:33 pm, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 I recently got a HP x360 (the pro version).
 512gb ssd. 8gb ram, qhd touch screen. What I like about it is that
 it's a laptop first that can flip around into tablet. Compared to 
 surface
 pro which is tablet first that can be used like a laptop. Subtle but
 important difference (for me).
 Also it's mistaken for a MacBook because of its aluminium build.
 Great battery but not the 12.5 hrs they claim on their advertising. (It
 never is!)
 Really happy with it. Only thing I'd change would be dark keys not
 silver. If you put backlight on keys during the day you can't see the
 letters. My only complaint. Oh more ram as an option but 8gb is highest
 they go which is enough but always love more
 On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 at 2:45 pm, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 c# web dev mainly, 13-14 maybe 15, approx macbook pro weight.
 Considering macbook actually but no win key and higher price let me 
 down


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Ken Schaefer 
 k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

 What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] New laptop



 Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward.
 Keyboard was a little annoying



 Cheers



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker 
 rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.



 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?



 Cheers

RE: [OT] New laptop

[Ken Schaefer]

What are your requirements? Size? Weight? Workload?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Rutter
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:06 AM
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] New laptop

Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a little 
annoying

Cheers

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker 
rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.

On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter 
therut...@gmail.commailto:therut...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Dave Walker]

I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.

On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[Tom Rutter]

Tried out the surface and found it too small and awkward. Keyboard was a
little annoying

Cheers

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.

 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop

[DotNet Dude]

Also heard that but new model coming oct/nov I hear

On Tuesday, 25 August 2015, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard that the surface pro works really well with it.

 On 25 August 2015 at 22:01, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','therut...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Anyone here got a new win 10 laptop lately? Recommendations?

 Cheers

Re: [OT] New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM

[David Connors]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote:

 So how's that new laptop going? did you get touchscreen on it? (I notice
 that seems to drop the available resolution).


It is awesome. I didn't get the multitouch screen for the reason you
identified.


 Had a look at the photos, and it seems boxy. Very thick and square
 looking. It's important to consider how it looks, people judge you. ;)
 Oh sure it has fruit but if its ugly then is that a show stopper? Would I
 buy a Volvo? (They are boxy but safe. lol)


It looks 'solid and professional'. At the end of the day, I always use it
in the dock behind my desk with the lid closed.

Heaps of people have commented on the size of it. OOoo errr.


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