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On 29 July 2015 at 16:02, Adrian Halid adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au wrote: Hi David, Why would you use unRaid and not just the hardware raid? The 2 main reasons I use unRaid are the ease of decommissioning and the ease of upgrading my hardware (although I haven't needed to do either). unRaid is not a version of Raid. Instead it constantly maintains a parity drive so that any drive that goes down can be kept alive virtually. The actual drives that store the data are not striped, or modified in any other way, so could be pulled out of the server and stuck into another machine seamlessly. Upgrading the capacity is also seamless. Swapping a drive: Say I have 2 x 2TB data drives and 1x2TB parity drive. I can swap the 2TB parity drive for a 3TB drive without bringing the system down (the parity gets rebuilt in situ). I can then replace one of the 2TB data drives with a 3TB drive (again without bringing the system down). Easy. Plus, I can have any combination of drive sizes, as long as the parity drive is the biggest. Adding a new drive is even easier - just add it. For a freshly prepared drive, it just goes straight in without needing to rebuild the parity. Regards *Adrian Halid* Research and Development Manager Connect with me *[image: cid:image003.png@01CF107B.FB6C6300]* https://www.facebook.com/itvision.australia?fref=ts*[image: cid:image004.png@01CF107B.FB6C6300]* http://www.linkedin.com/company/514509?trk=tyahtrkInfo=tas%3Ait%20vision%20pt%2Cidx%3A1-1-1*[image: cid:image005.png@01CF107B.FB6C6300]* https://twitter.com/ITVisionTweets P: (08) 9315 7000 F: (08) 9315 7088 Help Desk: 1 300 042 669 W: www.itvision.com.au E: adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au *IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd* (ABN: 34 309 336 904) Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 *[image: cid:image002.png@01CF107B.FB6C6300]* NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Burstin *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2015 1:06 PM *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* RE: [OT] home server Sorry for the slow reply - I thought I had sent it but it was sitting in drafts. I am still using unRaid 5 so not sure about version 6. It runs on linux, so anything that can run on linux can run (at least in my experience). Version 5 did not allow for NTFS drives, and added drives had to be cleaned/prepared. The parity drive is also prepared before use. The advantage of this is that it exercises the drives and flushes out drive problems - I RTMd a couple of drives after proving they were faulty during this cleaning phase. Sorry I can't give you more info about the current version - version 5 is so good that I have never had a reason to upgrade. One thing I can say is that the community is very active and responsive, so I would check out the forums and direct any questions in that direction. Cheers Dave On 27 Jul 2015 4:23 pm, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a think about it. Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, striped, mirrored, RAID) once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive (which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously. Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at the end of last year, I guess – probably this http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/docker-on-windows-server-how-will-it-work--1275009) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”. -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Burstin *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth your time checking out UnRaid http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/. I have been using it for years without any problems. And it is free for up to 3 drives (2 data, 1 parity), so up to 6TB storage. Cheers Dave On 27 July 2015 at 14:19, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS
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Thanks. Will have a read up. Regards Adrian Halid From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2015 7:52 AM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] home server On 29 July 2015 at 16:02, Adrian Halid adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au mailto:adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au wrote: Hi David, Why would you use unRaid and not just the hardware raid? The 2 main reasons I use unRaid are the ease of decommissioning and the ease of upgrading my hardware (although I haven't needed to do either). unRaid is not a version of Raid. Instead it constantly maintains a parity drive so that any drive that goes down can be kept alive virtually. The actual drives that store the data are not striped, or modified in any other way, so could be pulled out of the server and stuck into another machine seamlessly. Upgrading the capacity is also seamless. Swapping a drive: Say I have 2 x 2TB data drives and 1x2TB parity drive. I can swap the 2TB parity drive for a 3TB drive without bringing the system down (the parity gets rebuilt in situ). I can then replace one of the 2TB data drives with a 3TB drive (again without bringing the system down). Easy. Plus, I can have any combination of drive sizes, as long as the parity drive is the biggest. Adding a new drive is even easier - just add it. For a freshly prepared drive, it just goes straight in without needing to rebuild the parity. Regards Adrian Halid Research and Development Manager Connect with me https://www.facebook.com/itvision.australia?fref=ts http://www.linkedin.com/company/514509?trk=tyahtrkInfo=tas%3Ait%20vision%20pt%2Cidx%3A1-1-1 https://twitter.com/ITVisionTweets P: (08) 9315 7000 F: (08) 9315 7088 Help Desk: 1 300 042 669 W: http://www.itvision.com.au/ www.itvision.com.au E: mailto:adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 1:06 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Sorry for the slow reply - I thought I had sent it but it was sitting in drafts. I am still using unRaid 5 so not sure about version 6. It runs on linux, so anything that can run on linux can run (at least in my experience). Version 5 did not allow for NTFS drives, and added drives had to be cleaned/prepared. The parity drive is also prepared before use. The advantage of this is that it exercises the drives and flushes out drive problems - I RTMd a couple of drives after proving they were faulty during this cleaning phase. Sorry I can't give you more info about the current version - version 5 is so good that I have never had a reason to upgrade. One thing I can say is that the community is very active and responsive, so I would check out the forums and direct any questions in that direction. Cheers Dave On 27 Jul 2015 4:23 pm, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a think about it. Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, striped, mirrored, RAID) once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive (which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously. Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at the end of last year, I guess – probably this http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/docker-on-windows-server-how-will-it-work--1275009 ) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”. _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth your time checking out UnRaid http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/ . I have been using it for years without any
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N54L – Windows Server 2012 R2 with Server Essentials role (this is my WHS replacement) Gen8 – Windows Server 2012 R2 Data Center Ed. (this is the VM host). On this box I run Exchange, AD, Forefront etc. I have a second Gen8 which is my testing box. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Halid Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 4:40 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Hi Ken, What OS are you running on your N54L? Regards Adrian Halid
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Hi Ian, Best to double check what disks your HP Proliant Microserver N36L supports. I have a N40L which uses the same storage controller as the N36L as per the spec sheet below. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/getpdf.aspx/c04111079.pdf?ver=17 It says a maximum of 8TB = (4 x 2 TB). I just recently purchased the HP Proliant Gen8 Microserver as it was a great price. Hopefully delivered next week. Now I too am trying to figure out how to upgrade and repurpose my N40L. Currently it is running vmware esxi 5.1 with a windows 8.1 and Ubunut guest OS. I am not using RAID either at the moment. I am thinking of updating the disks 4 x 2TB and configuring it to use the inbuilt hardware RAID1 to get 4 GB of storage mirrored. Then either run FreeNAS or esxi with FreeNAS as a guest. Or maybe retire the N40L and just run everything on the new Gen8. Regards Adrian Halid From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 12:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home
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Ken I have used WHS 2011 really only as a file server. The HP hardware was quite cheap when I bought it initially – apart from adding RAM, and extra drives. I have used TeamViewer to download to it remotely (I can use my personal data quotas at cheaper rates than when at a remote location, in Australia or overseas – and it’s Windows, necessary for the special-purpose downloader). I don’t have a great number of complaints about WHS 2011. I bought DriveBender, when initially released (Oct 2011), and never got to install any of the many versions (v1310 was the last I downloaded), as it seemed that it was never out of beta. Can you comment on its effectiveness? I have just had a look at Division-M’s support page and see that it supports Windows 8 and Server 2012, so I have downloaded v2380 and will contact the developers/publishers if I need to ‘renew’ my license. DriveBender may suit me best. unRAID free edition seems a little restrictive to me (2 drives), though mixing HDD sizes is an attraction cf RAID. I think the HP Microserver’s controller does support JBOD as well though. _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:55 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Hi, What are the limitations you see with WHS2011? I can then let you know if that goes away with WSE2012. With my setup, I’ve used a regular Windows Server 2012 R2 and added the WSE role – that allows you to join the server to my existing AD domain, and gives you all the related goodness (e.g. centralised account management etc.) I then have a CrashPlan subscription that allows me to backup critical information offsite (Crashplan also supports backups locally, and to friends you might have). I use DriveBender to give me folder-by-folder RAID1, rather than relying on hardware RAID. There’s various other software RAID systems out there you could also use. I like WSE because it’s a regular Windows Server under the covers, so you can do a lot more than just serve files (run whatever services you want, it can act as a reverse proxy etc.). However if your primary use case is to serve/backup files, then a NAS is probably going to be simpler to manage and consume less power. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 2:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun
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I think 2TB drives were the max when the hardware was released – certainly 3TB/4TB drives work just fine in N36L/N40L etc. I’ve used 6TB drives in N54L From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Halid Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 4:04 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Hi Ian, Best to double check what disks your HP Proliant Microserver N36L supports. I have a N40L which uses the same storage controller as the N36L as per the spec sheet below. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/getpdf.aspx/c04111079.pdf?ver=17 It says a maximum of 8TB = (4 x 2 TB). I just recently purchased the HP Proliant Gen8 Microserver as it was a great price. Hopefully delivered next week. Now I too am trying to figure out how to upgrade and repurpose my N40L. Currently it is running vmware esxi 5.1 with a windows 8.1 and Ubunut guest OS. I am not using RAID either at the moment. I am thinking of updating the disks 4 x 2TB and configuring it to use the inbuilt hardware RAID1 to get 4 GB of storage mirrored. Then either run FreeNAS or esxi with FreeNAS as a guest. Or maybe retire the N40L and just run everything on the new Gen8. Regards Adrian Halid From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 12:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25
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Hi Ken, I think 2TB drives were the max when the hardware was released – certainly 3TB/4TB drives work just fine in N36L/N40L etc. I’ve used 6TB drives in N54L Ah. Good to know. I was just reading the spec sheet. It seem many people are using 3 or 4 TB drives in them. Regards Adrian Halid From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 2:03 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken I have used WHS 2011 really only as a file server. The HP hardware was quite cheap when I bought it initially – apart from adding RAM, and extra drives. I have used TeamViewer to download to it remotely (I can use my personal data quotas at cheaper rates than when at a remote location, in Australia or overseas – and it’s Windows, necessary for the special-purpose downloader). I don’t have a great number of complaints about WHS 2011. I bought DriveBender, when initially released (Oct 2011), and never got to install any of the many versions (v1310 was the last I downloaded), as it seemed that it was never out of beta. Can you comment on its effectiveness? I have just had a look at Division-M’s support page and see that it supports Windows 8 and Server 2012, so I have downloaded v2380 and will contact the developers/publishers if I need to ‘renew’ my license. DriveBender may suit me best. unRAID free edition seems a little restrictive to me (2 drives), though mixing HDD sizes is an attraction cf RAID. I think the HP Microserver’s controller does support JBOD as well though. _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:55 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Hi, What are the limitations you see with WHS2011? I can then let you know if that goes away with WSE2012. With my setup, I’ve used a regular Windows Server 2012 R2 and added the WSE role – that allows you to join the server to my existing AD domain, and gives you all the related goodness (e.g. centralised account management etc.) I then have a CrashPlan subscription that allows me to backup critical information offsite (Crashplan also supports backups locally, and to friends you might have). I use DriveBender to give me folder-by-folder RAID1, rather than relying on hardware RAID. There’s various other software RAID systems out there you could also use. I like WSE because it’s a regular Windows Server under the covers, so you can do a lot more than just serve files (run whatever services you want, it can act as a reverse proxy etc.). However if your primary use case is to serve/backup files, then a NAS is probably going to be simpler to manage and consume less power. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 2:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? _ Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David
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Hi David, Why would you use unRaid and not just the hardware raid? Regards Adrian Halid Research and Development Manager Connect with me [cid:image001.png@01D0CA07.3776F8B0]https://www.facebook.com/itvision.australia?fref=ts[cid:image002.png@01D0CA07.3776F8B0]http://www.linkedin.com/company/514509?trk=tyahtrkInfo=tas%3Ait%20vision%20pt%2Cidx%3A1-1-1[cid:image003.png@01D0CA07.3776F8B0]https://twitter.com/ITVisionTweets P: (08) 9315 7000 F: (08) 9315 7088 Help Desk: 1 300 042 669 W: www.itvision.com.auhttp://www.itvision.com.au/ E: adrian.ha...@itvision.com.aumailto:adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904) Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153 PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153 [cid:image004.png@01D0CA07.3776F8B0] NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then delete both messages From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 1:06 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Sorry for the slow reply - I thought I had sent it but it was sitting in drafts. I am still using unRaid 5 so not sure about version 6. It runs on linux, so anything that can run on linux can run (at least in my experience). Version 5 did not allow for NTFS drives, and added drives had to be cleaned/prepared. The parity drive is also prepared before use. The advantage of this is that it exercises the drives and flushes out drive problems - I RTMd a couple of drives after proving they were faulty during this cleaning phase. Sorry I can't give you more info about the current version - version 5 is so good that I have never had a reason to upgrade. One thing I can say is that the community is very active and responsive, so I would check out the forums and direct any questions in that direction. Cheers Dave On 27 Jul 2015 4:23 pm, ILT il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a think about it. Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, striped, mirrored, RAID) once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive (which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously. Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at the end of last year, I guess – probably thishttp://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/docker-on-windows-server-how-will-it-work--1275009) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth your time checking out UnRaidhttp://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/. I have been using it for years without any problems. And it is free for up to 3 drives (2 data, 1 parity), so up to 6TB storage. Cheers Dave On 27 July 2015 at 14:19, ILT il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent
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Hi, What are the limitations you see with WHS2011? I can then let you know if that goes away with WSE2012. With my setup, I’ve used a regular Windows Server 2012 R2 and added the WSE role – that allows you to join the server to my existing AD domain, and gives you all the related goodness (e.g. centralised account management etc.) I then have a CrashPlan subscription that allows me to backup critical information offsite (Crashplan also supports backups locally, and to friends you might have). I use DriveBender to give me folder-by-folder RAID1, rather than relying on hardware RAID. There’s various other software RAID systems out there you could also use. I like WSE because it’s a regular Windows Server under the covers, so you can do a lot more than just serve files (run whatever services you want, it can act as a reverse proxy etc.). However if your primary use case is to serve/backup files, then a NAS is probably going to be simpler to manage and consume less power. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 2:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] home server Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho
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Ian, I recommend the Synology DS 415+, its an intel Atom chip, Synology boxes now have native Docker support with a UI on their management interface, i use Docker to run our OpenVPN gateway, Asterisk and GitLab (Github clone for LAN). Synology boxes also have LDAP out of the box and a native RADIUS server as well as all your other necessary Network servers (FTP, SMB, NTP, SMTP, DHCP, DNS etc). Main reason I went for 415+ is that it has dual 1GB network ports with redundancy / fail over or aggregation, you can also upgrade it to 8GB RAM and cheap $639.00. 32TB max storage on it but we use RAID 10. http://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=10bid=4id2=126sid=220958 Matt. On 27/07/15 16:23, ILT wrote: Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a think about it. Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, striped, mirrored, RAID) once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive (which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously. Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at the end of last year, I guess – probably this) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burstin Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] home server Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth your time checking out UnRaid. I have been using it for years without any problems. And it is free for up to 3 drives (2 data, 1 parity), so up to 6TB storage. Cheers Dave On 27 July 2015 at 14:19, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT Sent: Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] home server
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Sorry for the slow reply - I thought I had sent it but it was sitting in drafts. I am still using unRaid 5 so not sure about version 6. It runs on linux, so anything that can run on linux can run (at least in my experience). Version 5 did not allow for NTFS drives, and added drives had to be cleaned/prepared. The parity drive is also prepared before use. The advantage of this is that it exercises the drives and flushes out drive problems - I RTMd a couple of drives after proving they were faulty during this cleaning phase. Sorry I can't give you more info about the current version - version 5 is so good that I have never had a reason to upgrade. One thing I can say is that the community is very active and responsive, so I would check out the forums and direct any questions in that direction. Cheers Dave On 27 Jul 2015 4:23 pm, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Dave, I’ve read the What is unRaid and the Technology pages – now having a think about it. Not sure if I can add part-used NTFS format drives (Basic – not spanned, striped, mirrored, RAID) once the USB boot is created, and a parity drive (which I assume needs to be ‘fresh’, unused, Linux file system) has been designated and prepared. I’ve got more reading to do, obviously. Do you the ability to run Docker Containers? My last reading about Docker (at the end of last year, I guess – probably this http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/docker-on-windows-server-how-will-it-work--1275009) was that it’s “not yet right for Windows”. -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Burstin *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 2:24 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server Ian, if you already have the HP Microserver, I really think it would be worth your time checking out UnRaid http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/. I have been using it for years without any problems. And it is free for up to 3 drives (2 data, 1 parity), so up to 6TB storage. Cheers Dave On 27 July 2015 at 14:19, ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Thanks Ken. Not having experience with server management, but finding WHS2011 with a few add-ins a bit primitive, how would I go with the same system on my HP Microserver? Would you recommend a NAS or one of these hybrid mediaserver/cloud backup devices as well? I’d rather add sata drive space (I do retain Tb-sized amounts of stuff) than spend on another box. -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 1:58 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] home server Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Essentials role). I have an AD domain at home, so I’ve joined it to that for SSO etc. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *ILT *Sent:* Monday, 27 July 2015 1:35 PM *To:* 'ozDotNet' *Subject:* RE: [OT] home server Ken, are you still running WHS 2011? -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 11:24 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] home server Just setup files from MSDN subscription is a couple of terabytes on my NAS. Granted, I could go through and delete the old stuff, but it’s probably cheaper to just buy a bigger disk every so often than spend time trimming a few hundred MBs here and there. Even something mundane as Iphone/iPad backups seem to consume space really quickly (64GB at a time for my wife’s phone) *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Sunday, 26 July 2015 6:18 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5
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I'm backing up the Internet. Can never be too careful. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 16:18 David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
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How much actual data do you guys have that you need to keep? Mulitple- terabytes is a sh1tload. On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 at 11:22 Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) g...@greglow.com wrote: On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM *To:* ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
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On the subject of home servers, if someone wants to make an offer on a serious NAS - QNAP TS-879 PRO with 24TB (8x3TB Seagate Constellation SATA3 drives), little “r” ping me back. https://www.qnap.com/i/au/product/model.php?II=15 Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:05 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] home server I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria
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Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria
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Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria
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Before you buy a synology, check out UnRaid. I've got it running on a hp microserver. Great product, great support and community and can't beat the price. On 25 Jul 2015 8:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria
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I went for the 5 bay one the upgraded to an 8 bay. The 5 was then moved to our office and is our file server there. Love the cloud sync it means we can access Dropbox files without having to have the drive space on office laptops. The files sit on the nas and just share the folder. Forget the model number off the top of my head but it's the ones you can expand with a second bay doubling the number of bays. On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 6:24 am, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm looking at synology as well. Any recommendations? I was looking at a https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play with 2 3tb red drives for now. On 25 Jul 2015 09:44, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Synology NAS. Any model, choose based on your storage needs. Does all your file sharing, media stuff etc. I even got Crashplan running on it It's brilliant On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 2:51 PM ILT il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I’d appreciate some advice, from those who dabble in this area (home networking, media server). As Windows 10 RTM approaches, I’ve been thinking of replacing my aged home network, based on a nice little HP Proliant Microserver N36L with 8Gb RAM running the defunct Windows Home Server 2011. I’m not sure I need the capability of Windows Server Essentials. Maybe Windows 8 or 10 would do the job? Currently the HP is not even serving media, being used as file storage and not using its RAID capability. But with larger storage at good prices these days (eg, WD Red or Black 3Tb at the best price-point), should I be using storage spaces on a newer OS? I’d like to also use it as a media server, not sure what Windows 8 or Server Essentials would offer. Thanks -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria
