Re: Report Builder in VS2012
I haven't used Telerik Reporting but have used DevExpress XtraReports which is very similar. So I second the idea of a third party non-Crystal report writer that has better VS integration. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Grant Molloy wrote: > Have used Telerik Reporting to good effect about 12-18 months ago.. > It was a little limiting in fonts and styling because that part is html > based and they apparently didn't want to build a full html render engine. > It has inheritance and you can do queries in code for each different > section of report if you wish. Community forums and their online doco is > very good and useful. Was able to produce a pretty good looking data driven > multi page, multi chart report from absolutely no TR knowledge in a few > weeks (with several iterations by the business!). > > I had to modify some Crystal reports after working with Telerik Reporting, > which just left me feeling dirty. > On Oct 12, 2012 5:57 PM, "Heinrich Breedt" > wrote: > >> What do ppl use these days for reports? >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Arjang Assadi >> wrote: >> >>> Some (ir)relevant videos about reporting using Win Forms to get started >>> (There are also WPF vids as well). >>> >>> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=30532 >>> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142074 >>> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142067 >>> >>> Not keeping the Crystal is the best path forward, there are also ways of >>> making reports using Power Pivot With Excel and using SSRS and SSAS >>> directly from Excel, the rest is going to be history. >>> >>> Using reporting from Excel users can do their reports in an already >>> familiar environment. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Arjang >>> >>> >>> On 12 October 2012 15:47, Tony Wright wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using >>>> Crystal Reports in VS2010. >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: >>>> I did discover a hack workaround but I’m not happy with it) >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> That’s sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app >>>> anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder >>>> in VS2012. >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. >>>> It used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, >>>> but it appears that I now have some gaps there and I’m hoping someone can >>>> give me some tips. >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer – I can do that easily >>>> in Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn’t obvious? >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything >>>> seems to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row >>>> details showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I’m >>>> missing here? >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Heinrich Breedt >> >> “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by >> striking.” - William B. Sprague >> >
Re: Report Builder in VS2012
Have used Telerik Reporting to good effect about 12-18 months ago.. It was a little limiting in fonts and styling because that part is html based and they apparently didn't want to build a full html render engine. It has inheritance and you can do queries in code for each different section of report if you wish. Community forums and their online doco is very good and useful. Was able to produce a pretty good looking data driven multi page, multi chart report from absolutely no TR knowledge in a few weeks (with several iterations by the business!). I had to modify some Crystal reports after working with Telerik Reporting, which just left me feeling dirty. On Oct 12, 2012 5:57 PM, "Heinrich Breedt" wrote: > What do ppl use these days for reports? > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Arjang Assadi wrote: > >> Some (ir)relevant videos about reporting using Win Forms to get started >> (There are also WPF vids as well). >> >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=30532 >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142074 >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142067 >> >> Not keeping the Crystal is the best path forward, there are also ways of >> making reports using Power Pivot With Excel and using SSRS and SSAS >> directly from Excel, the rest is going to be history. >> >> Using reporting from Excel users can do their reports in an already >> familiar environment. >> >> Regards >> >> Arjang >> >> >> On 12 October 2012 15:47, Tony Wright wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using >>> Crystal Reports in VS2010. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: I >>> did discover a hack workaround but I’m not happy with it) >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> That’s sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app >>> anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder >>> in VS2012. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. It >>> used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, but >>> it appears that I now have some gaps there and I’m hoping someone can give >>> me some tips. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer – I can do that easily >>> in Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn’t obvious? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything seems >>> to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row details >>> showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I’m missing >>> here? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tony >>> >> >> > > > -- > Heinrich Breedt > > “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” > - William B. Sprague >
Re: Report Builder in VS2012
Power Pivot from Excel, Anything else handled by SSRS and VSTO/Office automation. What else is there? On 12 October 2012 18:57, Heinrich Breedt wrote: > What do ppl use these days for reports? > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Arjang Assadi wrote: > >> Some (ir)relevant videos about reporting using Win Forms to get started >> (There are also WPF vids as well). >> >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=30532 >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142074 >> http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142067 >> >> Not keeping the Crystal is the best path forward, there are also ways of >> making reports using Power Pivot With Excel and using SSRS and SSAS >> directly from Excel, the rest is going to be history. >> >> Using reporting from Excel users can do their reports in an already >> familiar environment. >> >> Regards >> >> Arjang >> >> >> On 12 October 2012 15:47, Tony Wright wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using >>> Crystal Reports in VS2010. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: I >>> did discover a hack workaround but I’m not happy with it) >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> That’s sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app >>> anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder >>> in VS2012. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. It >>> used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, but >>> it appears that I now have some gaps there and I’m hoping someone can give >>> me some tips. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer – I can do that easily >>> in Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn’t obvious? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything seems >>> to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row details >>> showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I’m missing >>> here? >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tony >>> >> >> > > > -- > Heinrich Breedt > > “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” > - William B. Sprague >
Re: Report Builder in VS2012
What do ppl use these days for reports? On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Arjang Assadi wrote: > Some (ir)relevant videos about reporting using Win Forms to get started > (There are also WPF vids as well). > > http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=30532 > http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142074 > http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142067 > > Not keeping the Crystal is the best path forward, there are also ways of > making reports using Power Pivot With Excel and using SSRS and SSAS > directly from Excel, the rest is going to be history. > > Using reporting from Excel users can do their reports in an already > familiar environment. > > Regards > > Arjang > > > On 12 October 2012 15:47, Tony Wright wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> ** ** >> >> I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using >> Crystal Reports in VS2010. >> >> ** ** >> >> I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: I >> did discover a hack workaround but I’m not happy with it) >> >> ** ** >> >> That’s sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app >> anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder >> in VS2012. >> >> ** ** >> >> But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. It >> used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, but >> it appears that I now have some gaps there and I’m hoping someone can give >> me some tips. >> >> ** ** >> >> Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? >> >> ** ** >> >> How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer – I can do that easily in >> Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn’t obvious? >> >> ** ** >> >> I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything seems >> to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row details >> showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I’m missing >> here? >> >> ** ** >> >> Regards, >> >> Tony >> > > -- Heinrich Breedt “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” - William B. Sprague
Re: Report Builder in VS2012
Some (ir)relevant videos about reporting using Win Forms to get started (There are also WPF vids as well). http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=30532 http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142074 http://windowsclient.net/learn/video.aspx?v=142067 Not keeping the Crystal is the best path forward, there are also ways of making reports using Power Pivot With Excel and using SSRS and SSAS directly from Excel, the rest is going to be history. Using reporting from Excel users can do their reports in an already familiar environment. Regards Arjang On 12 October 2012 15:47, Tony Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > ** ** > > I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using > Crystal Reports in VS2010. > > ** ** > > I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: I > did discover a hack workaround but I’m not happy with it) > > ** ** > > That’s sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app > anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder > in VS2012. > > ** ** > > But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. It > used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, but > it appears that I now have some gaps there and I’m hoping someone can give > me some tips. > > ** ** > > Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? > > ** ** > > How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer – I can do that easily in > Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn’t obvious? > > ** ** > > I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything seems > to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row details > showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I’m missing > here? > > ** ** > > Regards, > > Tony >
Report Builder in VS2012
Hi all, I am currently considering rebuilding a report previously created using Crystal Reports in VS2010. I am using VS2012, and as yet, Crystal Reports is not supported (read: I did discover a hack workaround but I'm not happy with it) That's sort of ok for me as I only have about 2 reports in this app anyway, so I am thinking of rebuilding it using the default Report Builder in VS2012. But it looks and behaves differently to what I remembered previously. It used to be that I could relate my Crystal knowledge straight to SSRS, but it appears that I now have some gaps there and I'm hoping someone can give me some tips. Is it SQL Server Reporting services, or a cut down version? How can I add a Report Header and Report Footer - I can do that easily in Crystal but in Report Builder the option isn't obvious? I am somewhat confused about the Column and Row groups. Everything seems to be some sort of tabulation, whereas all I want is to have row details showing with a summing in the Report footer. Is there something I'm missing here? Regards, Tony
