Re: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
Thanks Paul. David put me in touch with Grant at Microsoft who was able to determine that it had been removed and he put up a notice ( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vsoservice/archive/2014/07/08/issues-with-visual-studio-online-stack-rank-field-on-task-work-items-7-8-investigating.aspx) to that effect. There is an Excel based work around, listed there too. However looking this morning I noticed that stack rank is back. On 4 August 2014 10:15, Paul Glavich wrote: > We use TFS online all the time. We had noticed that StackRank column is > also missing from some of the forms. While you can include it to see what > the values are, you will find these values change as TFS online uses that > field now for internal ordering of backlog items. > > > > Quite painful for us since we use a customised version of scrum where we > actively attributed values to stack rank to assist in prioritisation of a > huge backlog at various phases. One might argue we should not have a huge > backlog but in our instance, this is not practical at all as stack rank was > one of the few common fields with bugs and stories. At any rate, we have > had to accommodate it by using the backlog ordering feature and a separate > area for defects/bugs. The removal of stackrank has forced us to cleanup > our backlog which is a good thing but we still need to retain a fair bit so > it has caused us more administrivia pain. I often find that scrum/agile > practices tend to work best in greenfields projects and the strictness that > is advocated causes more friction for no gain in much longer running > projects (Note: I am a scrum/agile advocate but I tend to customise each to > suite the environment/team/needs). > > > > I believe you can still access it if you use something like Excel to do > your work item management but you are fighting the system and I would guess > there may be times when that value gets overwritten internally by TFS > online so it is a risky proposition. > > > > - Glav > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Preet Sangha > *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 July 2014 3:45 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the > cloud)? > > > > Thanks David. Will contact Grant directly. > > > > On 8 July 2014 17:09, David Kean wrote: > > Grant says: > > > > Can you have them contact me directly with their > accountname.visualstudio.com? > > > > There was an issue on Friday regarding backlog columns, we may have > regressed something in some cases. > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vsoservice/archive/2014/07/03/issues-with-visual-studio-online-work-item-backlog-management-2-7-investigating.aspx > > > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean > *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2014 9:43 PM > *To:* ozDotNet; Grant Holliday > *Subject:* RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the > cloud)? > > > > Grant? > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Preet Sangha > *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2014 6:18 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? > > > > This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already > logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task > Work Item template. > > > > Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS > server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a > change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there > something we need to specially to fix this? > > > > It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will > affect a bazillion other people. > > > > > > Thanks. > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland > > > > > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland > -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
We use TFS online all the time. We had noticed that StackRank column is also missing from some of the forms. While you can include it to see what the values are, you will find these values change as TFS online uses that field now for internal ordering of backlog items. Quite painful for us since we use a customised version of scrum where we actively attributed values to stack rank to assist in prioritisation of a huge backlog at various phases. One might argue we should not have a huge backlog but in our instance, this is not practical at all as stack rank was one of the few common fields with bugs and stories. At any rate, we have had to accommodate it by using the backlog ordering feature and a separate area for defects/bugs. The removal of stackrank has forced us to cleanup our backlog which is a good thing but we still need to retain a fair bit so it has caused us more administrivia pain. I often find that scrum/agile practices tend to work best in greenfields projects and the strictness that is advocated causes more friction for no gain in much longer running projects (Note: I am a scrum/agile advocate but I tend to customise each to suite the environment/team/needs). I believe you can still access it if you use something like Excel to do your work item management but you are fighting the system and I would guess there may be times when that value gets overwritten internally by TFS online so it is a risky proposition. - Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 3:45 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? Thanks David. Will contact Grant directly. On 8 July 2014 17:09, David Kean mailto:david.k...@microsoft.com> > wrote: Grant says: Can you have them contact me directly with their accountname.visualstudio.com <http://accountname.visualstudio.com> ? There was an issue on Friday regarding backlog columns, we may have regressed something in some cases. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vsoservice/archive/2014/07/03/issues-with-visual-studio-online-work-item-backlog-management-2-7-investigating.aspx From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> ] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 9:43 PM To: ozDotNet; Grant Holliday Subject: RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? Grant? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task Work Item template. Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there something we need to specially to fix this? It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will affect a bazillion other people. Thanks. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
Thanks David. Will contact Grant directly. On 8 July 2014 17:09, David Kean wrote: > Grant says: > > > > Can you have them contact me directly with their > accountname.visualstudio.com? > > > > There was an issue on Friday regarding backlog columns, we may have > regressed something in some cases. > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vsoservice/archive/2014/07/03/issues-with-visual-studio-online-work-item-backlog-management-2-7-investigating.aspx > > > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean > *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2014 9:43 PM > *To:* ozDotNet; Grant Holliday > *Subject:* RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the > cloud)? > > > > Grant? > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Preet Sangha > *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2014 6:18 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? > > > > This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already > logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task > Work Item template. > > > > Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS > server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a > change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there > something we need to specially to fix this? > > > > It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will > affect a bazillion other people. > > > > > > Thanks. > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland > -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
Grant says: Can you have them contact me directly with their accountname.visualstudio.com? There was an issue on Friday regarding backlog columns, we may have regressed something in some cases. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vsoservice/archive/2014/07/03/issues-with-visual-studio-online-work-item-backlog-management-2-7-investigating.aspx From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 9:43 PM To: ozDotNet; Grant Holliday Subject: RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? Grant? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task Work Item template. Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there something we need to specially to fix this? It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will affect a bazillion other people. Thanks. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
Grant? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 6:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)? This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task Work Item template. Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there something we need to specially to fix this? It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will affect a bazillion other people. Thanks. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Any one here using the Visual Studio Online (TFS in the cloud)?
This morning all of us who logged into TFS (as opposed to were already logged in on sleeping machines) have had Stack Rank removed from the Task Work Item template. Cloud TFS doesn't allow changes to the WIT as you can with an in house TFS server so I was wondering if any of the MS people here know if there was a change to TFS that could have made this happen for us, or is there something we need to specially to fix this? It's not critical at the moment but I'm sure if is affects us it will affect a bazillion other people. Thanks. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: visual studio online
Don't make me come over there... -Original Message- From: "Scott Barnes" Sent: 18/03/2014 1:14 PM To: "ozDotNet" Subject: Re: visual studio online In agile aint no time for dat (project management) right? :) hehe --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Stephen Price wrote: Thanks Grant Reading the docs, it seems that the first 5 basic are free (currently not using any as mine is MSDN account). So have invited him via his email address and will see what it sends him. If it works as expected it should invite him in (and might even give him an option to use different email if he has a Microsoft one?) we'll see :) On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Grant Maw wrote: They'll need a Microsoft ID at a minimum. Not sure about the other ... On 18 March 2014 14:37, Stephen Price wrote: Hey all, Just wondering if anyone has added a project manager to tfs online? I just want to add a program owner to the project so they can get some project visibility, log bugs etc. Won't be coding. Will they be able to do that via their email address without msdn? The only people I've added in the past have had their own visual studio account so not sure if you can just invite someone via email and they can sign up? will try it out but just thought someone might have already done it. cheers, Stephen
Re: visual studio online
In agile aint no time for dat (project management) right? :) hehe --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Stephen Price wrote: > Thanks Grant > > Reading the docs, it seems that the first 5 basic are free (currently not > using any as mine is MSDN account). So have invited him via his email > address and will see what it sends him. If it works as expected it should > invite him in (and might even give him an option to use different email if > he has a Microsoft one?) > > we'll see :) > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Grant Maw wrote: > >> They'll need a Microsoft ID at a minimum. Not sure about the other ... >> >> >> On 18 March 2014 14:37, Stephen Price wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Just wondering if anyone has added a project manager to tfs online? I >>> just want to add a program owner to the project so they can get some >>> project visibility, log bugs etc. Won't be coding. >>> Will they be able to do that via their email address without msdn? >>> >>> The only people I've added in the past have had their own visual studio >>> account so not sure if you can just invite someone via email and they can >>> sign up? >>> >>> will try it out but just thought someone might have already done it. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Stephen >>> >> >> >
Re: visual studio online
Thanks Grant Reading the docs, it seems that the first 5 basic are free (currently not using any as mine is MSDN account). So have invited him via his email address and will see what it sends him. If it works as expected it should invite him in (and might even give him an option to use different email if he has a Microsoft one?) we'll see :) On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Grant Maw wrote: > They'll need a Microsoft ID at a minimum. Not sure about the other ... > > > On 18 March 2014 14:37, Stephen Price wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Just wondering if anyone has added a project manager to tfs online? I >> just want to add a program owner to the project so they can get some >> project visibility, log bugs etc. Won't be coding. >> Will they be able to do that via their email address without msdn? >> >> The only people I've added in the past have had their own visual studio >> account so not sure if you can just invite someone via email and they can >> sign up? >> >> will try it out but just thought someone might have already done it. >> >> cheers, >> Stephen >> > >
Re: visual studio online
They'll need a Microsoft ID at a minimum. Not sure about the other ... On 18 March 2014 14:37, Stephen Price wrote: > Hey all, > > Just wondering if anyone has added a project manager to tfs online? I just > want to add a program owner to the project so they can get some project > visibility, log bugs etc. Won't be coding. > Will they be able to do that via their email address without msdn? > > The only people I've added in the past have had their own visual studio > account so not sure if you can just invite someone via email and they can > sign up? > > will try it out but just thought someone might have already done it. > > cheers, > Stephen >
visual studio online
Hey all, Just wondering if anyone has added a project manager to tfs online? I just want to add a program owner to the project so they can get some project visibility, log bugs etc. Won't be coding. Will they be able to do that via their email address without msdn? The only people I've added in the past have had their own visual studio account so not sure if you can just invite someone via email and they can sign up? will try it out but just thought someone might have already done it. cheers, Stephen
