Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta

[Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood]

"Doubtless consuming placentas
> has many benefits.  Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements
> instead..."

I heard recently on talkback radio (now I know I'm getting old...)that the
Marino sheep society in Adelaide make a sheep's placenta cream, which is
very good for dermatitis and eczema.  Interesting!

Tania


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Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta

[alastair tawns]

I too know about the high levels of zinc theory ..yes it is good for all the
things that you mention  but in addition zinc is frequently deficient in
those suffering depression..so the theory about it staving off pnd carries
some weight...I bet somebody has already said this ..forgive me I have been
virus fighting for the last couple of weeks
Cheerio
Mel
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From: "Jo Slamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta


> Ditto - except our kitty birthed in the lounge room and ate all 5
placentas
> for all kittens (after each birth she ate the placenta - she had 30 mins+
> b/w each kitten).
>
> I'd heard the predator theory too, and also understand placenta very high
in
> zinc - a mineral which helps both mother and babe remain calm, and
excellent
> for the skin - helps prevent grazed nipples.  Doubtless consuming
placentas
> has many benefits.  Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements
> instead...
>
> Jo>
> >
> > I watched our cat give birth to five kittens under the house years ago.
> She ate three placentas with gusto, managed to stomach the fourth and took
a
> nibble at the fifth before turning away with a grimace as if to say 'I
just
> can't' .
> >
> > Margie
> >
> > 
>
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[ozmidwifery] Fw: [NMAPAustralia] fundraising for MC

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Ozmid listers

Below is the web site for information on an art exhibition which will raise
funds for Maternity coalition
Please support it if you can including encouraging other artists to
participate!
Denise Hynd
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: [NMAPAustralia] fundraising for MC


> Dear NMAP team
> we would like to advise you that the 'art of birthing' web page is
> now online.
> www.artofbirthing.com.au
>
> This is a special fundraising venture for Maternity Coalition, being
> managed by an enthusiastic and talented group of people who wanted
> to do something practical for the cause.  If you go to the website I
> am sure you will be impressed.  There are 2 artworks to view at the
> moment, and more will be added as they are confirmed.
>
> Questions can be directed to Becc at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Joy
>
>
>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta

[Jo Slamen]

Ditto - except our kitty birthed in the lounge room and ate all 5 placentas
for all kittens (after each birth she ate the placenta - she had 30 mins+
b/w each kitten).

I'd heard the predator theory too, and also understand placenta very high in
zinc - a mineral which helps both mother and babe remain calm, and excellent
for the skin - helps prevent grazed nipples.  Doubtless consuming placentas
has many benefits.  Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements
instead...

Jo>
>
> I watched our cat give birth to five kittens under the house years ago.
She ate three placentas with gusto, managed to stomach the fourth and took a
nibble at the fifth before turning away with a grimace as if to say 'I just
can't' .
>
> Margie
>
> 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Jean Sutton

[Andrea Robertson]

Jean Sutton is in the UK at present - I heard her speak at a Conference in 
Birmingham 2 weeks ago. She is very dogmatic in her views, and will not 
brook any alternative opinion, but there is growing disquiet about her 
claims. A number of midwives have said to me that they have trouble 
following her arguments, which are not based on any direct evidence, but 
are all anecdotal. Some recent research has also challenged her claims (see 
MIDIRS June 2002 "Malpoisitions and malpresentations of the occiput: 
current research and practice tips).

Cheers,

Andrea



At 08:21 17/10/2002, Andrea Quanchi wrote:
Felicity,
I am trying to do some research based on the booklet 'understanding and 
teaching OFP. I have tried unsuccessfully to reach Jean Sutton by email 
and from what I hear she is not interested in talking to riff raff. I have 
however had several email chat with Pauline Scott who is most helpful, co 
operative and happy to chat. her email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hope this helps
Andrea Quanchi
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 10:21 AM, Felicity Cummins wrote:

Hello List

I am a midwife and interested in Jean Sutton's optimal positioning 
theory.  I would like to e-mail or talk to her, does anyone have her 
contact address or phone number?


Regards
Felicity




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Andrea Robertson
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education

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web: www.birthinternational.com


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[ozmidwifery] Bits left in Uterus - please advise

[Jo Slamen]

Dear List,

I am a lay member of the list and I have been in close contact with an
interstate friend (she's in Tassie - rural area) during her late pregnancy,
labour (yes, it was dial-a-doula me!) and postnatal period to date.  Jenny's
4640g baby boy (first baby) was born Tuesday October 8.  Jen's had some
trouble with attachment and I've been in touch with her regarding her
nipples etc.

Speaking to her yesterday, she told me she had a sore breast and felt hot
and feverish and generally unwell, and I said I suspected mastitis, gave her
some advice and recommended she see a doctor.  She couldn't see one until
the next day, so I recommended she be more forceful, say that she believed
it was mastitis.  So she was able to see a doctor late yesterday afternoon.

I spoke to hubby late last night, and mastitis had been confirmed, and
doctor suspected she may have retained material in the uterus due to
continuing heavy blood loss, which (as it was described to me) was 400 ml at
birth and not subsiding.

Anyway, Jen had an ultrasound today, which confirmed "bits and pieces" in
there.  She is a private patient and is not being seen until this coming
Monday when she'll "probably get a curette".

I don;t know much about this, but that sounds risky to me?  She is on
antibiotics for mastitis, but does that help her situation with her uterus?

I am concerned about the possibility of infection and haemorrhage
(particularly given that she lives probably 40 mins from the nearest
hospital).  Should she be seen to earlier than this??  I'm more than
prepared to ring her and suggest she front up at hospital if it's medically
advisable.

Jo Slamen

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Jean Sutton

[Greg Barbara Cook]

The town is Tauranga (note A not the U as written previously) 
in the Bay of Plenty, North Island. A wonderful place to live work and 
play.
Barb

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  Sutton
  In a message dated 10/16/02 7:59:07 AM W. Australia 
  Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  I am a midwife and interested in Jean Sutton's optimal 
positioning theory.  I would like to e-mail or talk to her, does anyone 
have her contact address or phone number?In 
  Jean's book, she writes:For more information please 
  contact:Birth Concepts128 Sutherland 
  RoadTaurungaNZThe email given is 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone +64 7 576 1500 or +64 7 544 4090 Fax: +64 7 
  576 4172HTHDebbie SlaterPerth, WA