Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Lois Wattis]

Hi again Juliana - the client I wrote about has chosen not to have ANY
ultrasounds, so LMP dates only.  Confounding factor is that they don't
recall having sex in the month between her last 2 periods, so took the
earlier date as the one to go by for conception (prior).  Your information
confirms what I already thought, but it's great to have it really clearly
researched and evidence-based.  I'll keep you informed as to her progress!

Thank you for offering to send your research paper.  My postal (office)
address is 39 McLarty Road, Pinjarra WA 6208, and my email is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .   Cheers, Lois

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From: "Juliana Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Lois,
Is this woman going by ultrasound dates or menstrual dates?  Why are her
dates doubtful?

There are risks to continuing pregnancy beyond term.  The risk of perinatal
death increases from 0.7 ongoing pregnancies at 37 weeks gestation to 2.4
ongoing pregnancies at 40 weeks, to 2.8 at 41 weeks, to 4.8 at 42 weeks to
5.8 ongoing pregnancies at 43 weeks gestation (Hilder et al 1998).  The risk
of perinatal death increases with the onset of labour (Enkin 2000).  What
remains controversial is whether induction of labour reduces the rate of
perinatal mortality in women with post dates pregnancy.  From the meta
analysis of 11 RCT's conducted between 1969 and 1992 comparing induction of
labour from 41 plus weeks to a conservative approach suggests a reduction in
perinatal mortality with induction of labour (Caritis 1995, Kierse 1993).
However, many reviews have been published recently questioning the validity
of the results found from these studies (Menticoglou 2002, Caritis 1995 and
Kierse 1993).  After extensive reading of these articles and their
arguments, the summary that I came up with was that there appears to be no
justification for a routine policy on induction of labour beyond 42
completed weeks gestation, as research does not conclusively show that
induction of labour decreases the rate of perinatal morbidity and mortality
compared with a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy.

>From my experience, most women choose induction of labour over a
conservative approach to post dates pregnancy.  Research hasn't been done on
women's views associated with continuing with pregnancy beyond term (42
weeks), however the reason why I chose this topic for my masters project was
that I came accross some women who did not want to be induced at 42 weeks.
Some women had experienced induction at 42 weeks before and gave birth to
healthy babies without any evidence that their babies were post dates.  Did
these women have naturally longer pregnancy gestations?  Would a
conservative approach put them at risk?  These are the sort of questions I
set out to try and answer.

How can we identify the 4.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies at 42 weeks and the
5.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies that are going to end up resulting in
perinatal death beyond 43 weeks gestation?  CTG is of no benefit.  One
possible way of detecting post dates pregnancies which are becoming high
risk is the use of doppler ultrasound.  However, there have been no studies
to date performed looking at the use of doppler ultrasound for women with
post dates pregnancies specifically, just high risk pregnancy such as
hypertension.  The results from these high risk studies are pleasing in
detecting pregnancies at risk, however the pathophysiology of post dates
pregnancy (placental insufficiency) may be different to that of women with
hypertension.

I would be happy to e mail you my guidelines off list.  I am hoping to
publish my findings in ACMI journal soon.  I don't want to publish the
policy alone as the arguments to both approaches to post dates pregnancy
need to be included with the publication.

I know my response has been long winded, but hopefully it has been helpful
for this woman.
Regards,
Juliana

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lois Wattis
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Julianne, I would like to read your paper too.  I have a client more that 3
weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does
not want to be induced.  Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term
now.  Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and
scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding.  Could you
please provide some info based on your 'policy'?  Thanks, Lois

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM
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It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice.

Love Sally

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[ozmidwifery] 50% of list of good websites to visit

[Julie Clarke]

Pregnancy & Birth

www.birthinternational.com  Educational resources for
midwives, childbirth educators and parents. Also links to other good
websites.

www.capersbookstore.com.au  Educational resources for
midwives, childbirth educators and parents.

www.avera.org/adam1st_trimester/tools/fetaldev_tool.htm Extraordinary website showing fetal
development.

www.visembyro.com/baby/index.html  Development of embryo and fetus
throughout pregnancy

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/debra_betts  Acupuncture information for
turning a breech baby in late pregnancy

www.birthpsychology.com/birthscene/initiative.html  for birthing info by Dr.
Marsden Wagner

www.maternitycoalition.org.au  mothers and midwives working together to
improve maternity services in Australia

www.cordclamping.com  A collection of articles
regarding cord clamping.

http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/  Caeserean
information and VBAC info. Guide
booklet available to download and distribute. Birthrites
philosophy: “With knowledge we can make choices that lead to empowerment, and healing through birth”

www.cochraneconsumer.com Cochrane collaboration consumer network

www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com  National Childbirth Trust  (UK)

www.dvirc.org,au/publications/pregnancy/parenting.htm   A Supportive Guide for Survivors of Child
Sexual Abuse

www.nace.org.au National
Association of Childbirth Educators  
(AUST)

www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news/  article regarding ultrasound use
for unborn babies.

www.birth.com  for excellent birthing information. On-line ante-natal classes.

www.activebirthcentre.com/freearticlesandreports.html   the website of Janet Balaskas
author of the wonderful book New Active Birth. Lots of
good articles available to print off and keep.

www.sheilakitzinger.com  the website of the anthropologist Sheila Kitzinger author of many books on Pregnancy, labour
birthing and breastfeeding and parenting. 


www.cea-nsw.com.au/video-library.html  Childbirth Education
Association. (Sydney)Provides a
7-day video library borrowing service 

www.waterbirth.org  Global Maternal/Child Health Association have
produced Gentle Birth Choices video. Available from CEA video
library.

www.wonderfulbirth.com the website
of a very popular independent childbirth educator in Melbourne

www.birthjourney.com website of
Lois Wattis Independent Midwife in Western Austalia

www.melbmidwifery.com.au website of Robyn
Thompson Independent midwife in Melbourne

www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm website of Joy
Johnson Independent midwife in Victoria

www.maternitywise.org since 1918
the Maternity Center Association has been dedicated
to the needs and interests of childbearing women and their families. This
website helps women learn about options and make informed
decisions. 

www.parenting.telecampus.com  Holistic overview of modern
birth.

www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on
caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide.

www.nutritionaustralia.org  for nutrition information

www.homebirthaccesssydney.org.au  for information on
homebirth and independent midwives.

www.pregnancy.com.au  website of Jane Palmer independent
midwife

www.gentlebirth.org This site
hosts a number of midwifery related web pages.

www.birthpsychology.com/apppah  Association for Pre and Perinatal Psychology
and Health (A.P.P.A.H.)

www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news   Describes the effect of ultrasound on the fetus. The sound of a train …

 

 

Julie Clarke CBE

Childbirth and Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook
  Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T.  (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au

 

RE: [ozmidwifery] internet sites (long)

[Wayne and Caroline McCullough]

This list is excellent. I am currently setting up my website for the CD
I'm about to release (hopefully October) and will be putting a few of
these on my links page. Thanks!

Cheers,

Cas McCullough

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[ozmidwifery] Skin2skin

[Denise Hynd]

Dear All 
Trust you all heard Nils Bergman talking with 
Geraldine on Life matters if not repeated tonite on Radio National
Denise Hynd

Re: [ozmidwifery] doula needed!

[Kelly Yates]

Thanks Jo,
Unfortunatly i live in victoria and dont know of 
any doula's in that area.
Good luck.
Cheers
Kelly

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  jo 
  hunter 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula 
  needed!
  
  Hi Kelly,
  Mid North coast of NSW.
  Cheers Jo
  
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From: 
Kelly Yates 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:40 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula 
needed!

Hello Jo,
Where is Bellingen?
cheers
Kelly

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  From: 
  jo 
  hunter 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:42 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] doula 
  needed!
  
  Hi all,
  Hoping that someone can help. I currently 
  have a client who is moving from the Blue Mtns to Bellingen in a few weeks 
  time. She has booked into the birthing room at Bellingen Hospital to have 
  her baby (due in early Dec) and would like to employ a doula to assist her 
  at the birth. Anyone know of a doula who works in this area?
  Thanks in advance.
  Jo Hunter
  Homebirth mum to 4
  HAS Coordinator
  INNATE BIRTH CBE and 
Doula

[ozmidwifery] next 50% of list of good websites to visit

[Julie Clarke]

Baby Care Breastfeeding and Parenting

www.breastfeeding.asn.au  this is the site of the Australia’s
Breastfeeding Association lots of good articles available to print.

www.babymilkaction.org  regarding unethical formula companies

www.swahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane Karitane
Mothercraft Society

www.cs.nsw.gov.au/Tresillian  Tresillian

www.sch.edu.au  Sydney Children’s Hospital

www.sidsaustralia.org.au  SIDS

www.lalecheleague.org  Le Leche League
International – providing support for breastfeeding

www.infantmassage.org.au  Infant Massage Australia courses
available for parents

www.compleatmother.com    Creative site dealing with
controversial issues: vaccinations, circumcision etc. 

 www.parentscentre.org.nz/having_a_baby/c-vitamink.htm vitamin k
injection offered routinely to all newborns

www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/vitaminksystemic20259 for more
info on Vit K

www.nocirc.org regarding circumcision decision making

www.circinfo.org  National organisation of Circumcision
Information

www.positiveparenting.com  For parenting information

www.amba.org.au  Australian Multiple Birth Association information for
parents of twins triplets and more!

www.aromababy.com  Beautiful aromatherapy oils for mother and
baby.

www.jurlique.com.au Pure
prenatal skin care

www.swsahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane  Karitane provides support, guidance and information to
families with children 0-5 years who are experiencing
parenting difficulties.  Usually feeding, sleeping or behaviour. Care line a 24 hr state wide service 1800 677 961 or 9794 1800.

www.attachmentparenting.org  Promotes a parenting philosophy nurturing
strong emotional family bonds.

www.iamyourchild.org Raising awareness of brain development in early years.

www.agsnet.com American
Guidance Services – under parenting see S.T.E.P.
Systematic Training for Effective Parenting. The direct web link is www.agsnet.com/Markets.asp?sMarketCode=4

www.stophitting.com the centre
for effective discipline – alternatives to corporal punishment

www.askdrsears.com Dr. Sears
USA Pediatrician

www.relationships.com.au  Relationships Aust provides individual,
couple and family counseling, mediation, relationship
and parenting education.

www.sydneycounselling.com.au  Provides psychological help and support for
all matters relating to childcare, parenting and family issues.

www.stjohnnsw.com.au  St John Ambulance first aid training and has
a special short course designed for parents “Caring for Kids”.

www.pinky-mychild.com  From unborn child to teen child, Pinky McKay author of Parenting by Heart and 100 Ways to
Calm the Crying offers a gentle approach to parenting, nurturing links forum
and email newsletter.

www.parenting.telecampus.com/  Holistic overview of modern birth.

www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on
caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide.

www.avn.org.au Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) for information on
vaccination for infants

www.health.gov.au:80/hfs/pubhlth/cdi/cdi2402/c Commonly
asked questions about vaccines and answers by the Commonwealth Dept of Health
and Aging.

www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (see article
in the NCIRS “facts” section noting the manufacturing
companies who produce vaccines for children without thiomersal.)

www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/a-z/immunisation.html  NSW Health Department
immunization web page, immunization timetable.

 

 

Julie Clarke CBE

Childbirth and Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook
  Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T.  (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au

 

RE: [ozmidwifery] internet sites

[Julie Clarke]

Hi Lois and all
In response to the mention of the list of internet sites I have compiled
I am happy to pass them on to everyone but it is too large to be
included in one go on Ozmidwifery so I will look at breaking into 2 or 3
lists.
If this is not successful - it won't appear on the list over the next
few days - in this case those who are interested are welcome to email me
direct and I will send them to you.
Hug
Julie

Julie Clarke CBE
Childbirth and Parenting Educator
ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor
NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer
Transition into Parenthood Sessions
9 Withybrook Place
Sylvania NSW 2224
T.  (02) 9544 6441
Mobile: 0401 265530
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lois Wattis
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 11:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] internet sites

Hi Alphia,
here are some to start off:-
www.birthjourney.com
www.birthrites.org.
www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au

Julie Clarke compiled an excellent list of websites recently.  I wourld
recommend you email her via ozmidwifery for a copy.  Kind regards, Lois

- Original Message -
From: "Alphia Garrety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] internet sites


Hello to all of you wise women out there,
Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents
continuously make use of the internet to aid them with their birthing
choices.  So I am currently attempting to search the internet and find
various sites that support the many approaches that women take to birth
-
from the homebirth to the planned caesarean.  So if anyone knows of some
sites I would really appreciate it if you could forward them onto me.
The impact of the net on our birthing choices is amazing - something
that I
have never quite considered.

Thanking everyone in advance
Warmly
Alphia
Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.)
PhD. Candidate
School of Applied and Human Sciences
Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney
UWS Locked Bag 1797
South Penrith Distribution Centre
NSW 1797 Australia

Phone: 02 97726628
Fax: 02 97726584

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[ozmidwifery] TeenAbortionHigh

[Denise Hynd]

Dear All
Sad WA research on news today says Abortion is the 
second highest reason for hospital admission for 12 -17 years olds!This 
also means they are having D&C's
Denise

RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Juliana Brennan]

Mary, Thats fine.  How should I get the paper to you?  I'm planning to get
it published with ACMI ASAP.  The reason for my delay in getting the
information published is that I'm a busy Mum.  Also, I'm told by the
university that I need to change each version slightly for each publication.
This is time consuming, yet I agree valuable information needs to be shared.
Juliana

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Juliana, It would be good if you could share this information with us all.
so often valuable work is done in academia and we are unable to access it
because we don't know it has been going on. I agree post dates gives us all
grief.  justifying non induction to the drs is very difficult for
women.cheers, MM

" > Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for
inducing
> labour."


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RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Juliana Brennan]

Lois,
Is this woman going by ultrasound dates or menstrual dates?  Why are her
dates doubtful?

There are risks to continuing pregnancy beyond term.  The risk of perinatal
death increases from 0.7 ongoing pregnancies at 37 weeks gestation to 2.4
ongoing pregnancies at 40 weeks, to 2.8 at 41 weeks, to 4.8 at 42 weeks to
5.8 ongoing pregnancies at 43 weeks gestation (Hilder et al 1998).  The risk
of perinatal death increases with the onset of labour (Enkin 2000).  What
remains controversial is whether induction of labour reduces the rate of
perinatal mortality in women with post dates pregnancy.  From the meta
analysis of 11 RCT's conducted between 1969 and 1992 comparing induction of
labour from 41 plus weeks to a conservative approach suggests a reduction in
perinatal mortality with induction of labour (Caritis 1995, Kierse 1993).
However, many reviews have been published recently questioning the validity
of the results found from these studies (Menticoglou 2002, Caritis 1995 and
Kierse 1993).  After extensive reading of these articles and their
arguments, the summary that I came up with was that there appears to be no
justification for a routine policy on induction of labour beyond 42
completed weeks gestation, as research does not conclusively show that
induction of labour decreases the rate of perinatal morbidity and mortality
compared with a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy.

>From my experience, most women choose induction of labour over a
conservative approach to post dates pregnancy.  Research hasn't been done on
women's views associated with continuing with pregnancy beyond term (42
weeks), however the reason why I chose this topic for my masters project was
that I came accross some women who did not want to be induced at 42 weeks.
Some women had experienced induction at 42 weeks before and gave birth to
healthy babies without any evidence that their babies were post dates.  Did
these women have naturally longer pregnancy gestations?  Would a
conservative approach put them at risk?  These are the sort of questions I
set out to try and answer.

How can we identify the 4.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies at 42 weeks and the
5.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies that are going to end up resulting in
perinatal death beyond 43 weeks gestation?  CTG is of no benefit.  One
possible way of detecting post dates pregnancies which are becoming high
risk is the use of doppler ultrasound.  However, there have been no studies
to date performed looking at the use of doppler ultrasound for women with
post dates pregnancies specifically, just high risk pregnancy such as
hypertension.  The results from these high risk studies are pleasing in
detecting pregnancies at risk, however the pathophysiology of post dates
pregnancy (placental insufficiency) may be different to that of women with
hypertension.

I would be happy to e mail you my guidelines off list.  I am hoping to
publish my findings in ACMI journal soon.  I don't want to publish the
policy alone as the arguments to both approaches to post dates pregnancy
need to be included with the publication.

I know my response has been long winded, but hopefully it has been helpful
for this woman.
Regards,
Juliana

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lois Wattis
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Julianne, I would like to read your paper too.  I have a client more that 3
weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does
not want to be induced.  Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term
now.  Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and
scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding.  Could you
please provide some info based on your 'policy'?  Thanks, Lois

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From: "sally westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice.

Love Sally

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana
Brennan
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

Dear Jo,
Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for
inducing
labour.  When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women
with post dates pregnancy.  I looked at Induction of labour as one
approach
and conservative care as the other.  I didn't do any research as such,
it
was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the
care
of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective.
ie a
conservative approach vs induction of labour.

I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour
vs an
alternative approach  to post dat

RE: [ozmidwifery] internet sites (long)

[Joyce, Sally]

Alphia,

I have been slightly obsessed with birth/ pg information and have a significant 
collection  of websites that I use. I am currently 12 weeks pg but have been looking 
for information for the past 3 years. I have a tendency to lean toward more natural 
approach but there are a lot of mainstream sites below as well. This isn't my entire 
list but contains most of the sites. Some of them are linking sites which I use on a 
regular basis. 

What I have found really scary is that a lot of women use discussion boards as sources 
of information. Inaccurate and completely ridiculous "facts" get posted on these 
boards by well meaning Mums and Mums-to-be that horrify me. You should definitely 
check out some of the bigger discussion lists both in Australia and around the world. 
I have includes some that I use or look at but most sites have their own forums or 
discussion boards.

In addition to the discussion lists associated with webpages you also have the all the 
yahoo, topica type elists that cover every possible pg and birth topic you can 
imagine. I am subscribed to around 4 of them but there is literally hundreds and women 
can just cruise around them until they find one that suit their lifestyle and beliefs. 

Hope this help and isn't too much information. 

Sally 

Australia Sites:

http://naturalparenting.com.au/forum/
http://naturalparenting.com.au
http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/
http://www.ninemonths.com.au/
http://www.ninemonths.com.au/bulletinboard/bulletinboardhome.asp
http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/
http://www.birthinternational.com.au/
http://www.birth.com.au/
http://www.breastandbelly.com/
http://www.byronchild.com/
http://www.carolfallows.com.au/index_p.html
http://www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au/
http://www.earthmamasweb.com/
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/
http://midwife.server101.com/
http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~midwife/newfront.htm
http://www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm
http://www.melbmidwifery.com.au/
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~midwife/asim.htm
http://www.natureschild.com.au
http://www.pregnancy.com.au/
http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au/
http://www.bubhub.com.au/
http://www.thebaby.com.au/
http://www.wonderfulbirth.com/
http://www.nappybag.com.au/index.php
http://www.motherhoodmysteries.com.au/
http://www.natureschild.com.au/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi
http://www.doulasdownundernetwork.com/
http://www.pinky-mychild.com/


HOMEBIRTH:
http://www.homebirthservices.com.au/
http://www.homebirthaustralia.org/
http://www.homebirth.org.uk/
http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/hma/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/3010/
http://www.homebirth.org.au/
http://www.homebirthservices.com.au/
http://www.homebirth.net/
http://www.sheilakitzinger.com/
http://www.changesurfer.com/Hlth/homebirth.html
http://www.homebirth.org.nz/
http://www.unassistedbirth.com/

World Sites:
http://www.birthlove.com
http://pregnancy.about.com/
http://www.parentsplace.com/
http://www.childbirth.org/
http://www.storknet.com/
http://www.parenthood.com/
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7269/#Feb01_01
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8148/birthstories.html
http://www.birthdiaries.com/diary/
http://naturalbirth.freeservers.com/
http://socalbirth.org/shelly/yoga.htm
http://www.gentleparenting.com/
http://www.thelaboroflove.com/
http://www.kjsl.com/parenting.html
http://www.birthbalance.com/
http://falcao.best.vwh.net/Midwife/advocacy.html
http://www.commonknowledgetrust.com/birthing_kit.htm
http://www.choicesinchildbirth.com
http://www.activebirthcentre.com/
http://www.bradleymethod.com/
http://am-i-pregnant.com/
http://www.thebabycorner.com/
http://www.baby-place.com/
http://www.maternitywise.org/home.html
http://www.babycenter.com/
http://www.birthcottage.com/resources.html
http://www.birthchoiceuk.com/
http://www.birthlove.com/
http://www.victoriousbirth.com/
http://www.birthpsychology.com/
http://www.mainstreetmom.com/
http://www.motherfriendly.org/
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/childbirth.html
http://www.theduedateclub.com/
http://www.hypnobabies.com/pages/895069/index.htm
http://www.gentlebirth.org/
http://www.mothering.com/
http://www.motherstuff.com/
http://www.oppera.org.uk/
http://www.parentlink.org/
http://www.parentsoup.com/
http://www.yoursnaturally.net/PBRI.html
http://www.birthingthefuture.com/default.html
http://www.susanweed.com/
http://www.babyworld.co.uk/
http://www.wearsthebaby.com/
http://www.babyzone.com/
http://www.birthpartners.com/bp.asp
http://www.blueribbonbaby.org/
http://www.childbirthsolutions.com/index.php
http://www.beingamother.com./
http://www.bygpub.com/natural/natural-childbirth.htm
http://www.hypnobirthing.com/
http://www.thebirthconnection.com/



-Original Message-
From: Alphia Garrety [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 11:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] internet sites


Hello to all of you wise women out there,
Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents 
continuo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Mary Murphy]

Juliana, It would be good if you could share this information with us all.
so often valuable work is done in academia and we are unable to access it
because we don't know it has been going on. I agree post dates gives us all
grief.  justifying non induction to the drs is very difficult for
women.cheers, MM

" > Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for
inducing
> labour."


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Re: [ozmidwifery] internet sites

[Alphia Garrety]

Thanks Lois  -Julie has already forwarded me the list - some great stuff!

Thank you
Take care
Alphia
At 09:14 PM 1/08/03 +0800, you wrote:
Hi Alphia,
here are some to start off:-
www.birthjourney.com
www.birthrites.org.
www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au
Julie Clarke compiled an excellent list of websites recently.  I wourld
recommend you email her via ozmidwifery for a copy.  Kind regards, Lois
- Original Message -
From: "Alphia Garrety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] internet sites
Hello to all of you wise women out there,
Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents
continuously make use of the internet to aid them with their birthing
choices.  So I am currently attempting to search the internet and find
various sites that support the many approaches that women take to birth -
from the homebirth to the planned caesarean.  So if anyone knows of some
sites I would really appreciate it if you could forward them onto me.
The impact of the net on our birthing choices is amazing - something that I
have never quite considered.
Thanking everyone in advance
Warmly
Alphia
Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.)
PhD. Candidate
School of Applied and Human Sciences
Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney
UWS Locked Bag 1797
South Penrith Distribution Centre
NSW 1797 Australia
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Lois Wattis]

Thanks Robin, I've emailed them directly for more info.  Regards, Lois
- Original Message -
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Here you go Lois, http://www.colinheaney.com/  but half the pleasure is
picking out the hundreds of different colours he uses in the glass. It
really is the most wonderful studio to visit, (and I'm lucky enough to be
going up there again in a few weeks time)

cheers,
Robin.

- Original Message -
From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Dear Robin, I had a look at this website and I'd like to know if it is
> possible to order these directly from Colin Heaney in Byron Bay, rather
than
> via the website which is USA based, and US$ p&h etc.  Any ideas?  Regards,
> Lois
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> This
> > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> tutor
> > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care.  She
(my
> > tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will
yet),
> so
> > I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects
> that
> > I could do a small research on.  I've never done anything like this
before
> > and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only
> > recently embarked on university studies).  I already have some vague
ideas
> > but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of.
> > I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something
that
>
> > symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't
been
> > able to think of a simple design to do.  Can anyone help?

Re: [ozmidwifery] Article in the local paper...

[Lois Wattis]

Well done Tania.  Local level communication is the 
'grass roots' of getting the message across.  Cheers, Lois

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom, Tania and Sam 
  Smallwood 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:47 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Article in the 
  local paper...
  
  Me again, here is the article, please excuse any typo's, 
  I'll try and get it across as accurately as I can!  From the Hills 
  Courier newspaper, Wed, July 23, 2003.
   
   
  "Midwives popular choice with expectant 
  mothers"
   
  Expectant mothers are still choosing to birth with midwives 
  despite problems with insurance and a lack of government support, a local 
  midwife has said.
   
  Stirling midwife Tania Smallwood said although midwives had 
  not had access to professional indemnity insurance since July 2001, the number 
  of women choosing midwives as carers during pregnancy and birth had not 
  dropped.  "Quite the opposite really, we're very busy" she said.  
  
   
  "I don't have insurance, like every other midwife in 
  Australia.  There is no professional indemnity insurance available.  
  I practise with another midwife, Wendy Thornton, and we're actually very busy 
  indeed, and turning people away."
   
  Mrs Smallwood said although midwives were extremely popular, 
  they were not held in the same esteem as other health professionals, such as 
  doctors and dentists.  "If all our dentists lost their insurance all hell 
  would break loose,"  she said.
   
  "But we don't have a system here that supports a known 
  midwife."
   
  Mrs Smallwood said choosing a midwife as the primary care 
  provider during pregnancy and birth could save the taxpayer up to $3000 a 
  birth.
   
  "Personal Care"
   
  "If a woman decides to have antenatal care and postnatal 
  care with a midwife and get out of hospital as quickly as possible, there is 
  very little cost to the taxpayer," she said.
   
  Mrs Smallwood said many women chose to be cared for by a 
  midwife because it meant a more personal level of care.  "Women have got 
  to stand up and say, 'I deserve to have someone I know right from the start 
  who's there at the birth',"she said.
   
  Expectant mother Casey Franchi of Lobethal said having a 
  midwife assisting during the birth seemed the logical choice.  "It's more 
  personal I think because you've built up such a strong relationship with your 
  midwife through the pregnancy, you know them so much better," she 
  said.
   
  "Having a baby is such an amazing experience, why would you 
  want a stranger to come in?"  Mrs Franchi, sho had her first child 
  Angelina at the Women's and Children's Hospital with a midwife, said her 
  second child would be born at home with an independent midwife assisting. 
  

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Lois Wattis]

Julianne, I would like to read your paper too.  I have a client more that 3
weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does
not want to be induced.  Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term
now.  Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and
scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding.  Could you
please provide some info based on your 'policy'?  Thanks, Lois

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From: "sally westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice.

Love Sally

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana
Brennan
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

Dear Jo,
Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for
inducing
labour.  When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women
with post dates pregnancy.  I looked at Induction of labour as one
approach
and conservative care as the other.  I didn't do any research as such,
it
was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the
care
of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective.
ie a
conservative approach vs induction of labour.

I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour
vs an
alternative approach  to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches,
perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal
surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their
effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative
practices to induce or augment labour.

Good luck with your studies.
Juliana


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M
Fisher
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic
and
my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not
one
to make quick decisions!
An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many
inductions
these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no
good
at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
Cheers,
Joanne.

- Original Message -
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I
have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin
K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in
our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research
the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B
immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and
idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and
it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do
babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring
phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals
seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating
blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> 

[no subject]

[Andrea Robertson]

HI everyone,

A positive story for once!

Sun-Herald, Sydney August 3 2003

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More power to midwives in bid to cut caesareans

By Miranda Wood, Health Reporter

Midwives at Sydney hospitals are working on a program to reduce the high 
rates of caesareans and other interventions during birth.

The new model of care, expected to be trialled in northern Sydney 
hospitals, involves a woman having the same midwife throughout pregnancy 
and birth.

As part of the changes, doctors are not required to be on duty, but 
midwives and expectant mothers can still request their assistance when 
necessary.

The proposed plan comes as a new Sydney study, published in this month's 
British Journal Of Obstetrics And Gynaecology, has revealed midwives are a 
cheaper
alternative to interventions during labour.

Nearly one in four NSW women has a caesarean birth, but the World Health 
Organisation recommends no higher than 15 per cent.

Sally Tracy, the study's author and midwifery practice development 
associate professor at the University of Technology, Sydney, said 
midwife-only births were far more
cost-effective for the health system.

"The paper is probably showing that, for the first time, we can now 
actually cost up the sort of things we can prevent happening in 
childbirth," she said.

NSW Health supports the new maternity program, which gives more power and 
autonomy to midwives.

A spokeswoman said: "The NSW Health department supports area health 
services in their development and implementation of best practice maternity 
care options,
which may include midwifery models of care that are provided in conjunction 
with other maternity health professionals."

Professor Tracy said evidence from other countries, including New Zealand, 
proved the proposed plan decreased the number of interventions.

"There is the research around to show that the biggest factors that prevent 
women from going on and having their baby quite naturally are the fear and 
giving birth
among people they don't know," she said.

"They've not had the continuity of having a midwife whom they know and can 
form a relationship with and can actually contact when they want to know 
the answer to
anything.

"When they come in to give birth, they know that the midwife is there and 
will be there with them and that, it seems, is the thing that lowers the 
intervention rate.

"We're looking at a better outcome for women and babies."

Professor Tracy said midwife-only births could reduce the number of 
interventions to between 7 and 10 per cent.

"If a woman shows any sign of having a complicated pregnancy or birth, then 
the lines are all open for that communication with the next level of care," 
she said.

Professor Tracy said an assigned midwife could also conduct home visits to 
assist mothers after birth.

The new plan needs approval from the body that monitors childbirth safety 
in NSW, the Maternal and Perinatal Committee.

Interventions include caesareans, epidurals and inductions, which must all 
be performed by doctors.

Professor Tracy said some doctors still had "very entrenched thinking" that 
women needed high-tech obstetric care.

"There is still a thinking out there that every birth is high-risk," she said.

Shellharbour Hospital, on the NSW south-coast, is also planning to 
introduce midwife-only births to cope with a shortage of obstetricians.

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwives on TV

[Judy Giesaitis]

you 
could ask at the ABC to purchase a copy. Ring the ABC in your state, ask for 
sales and see if they can help  Judy

  -Original Message-From: Denise Hynd 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 3:38 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [ozmidwifery] Midwives on TV
  Dear All
  The UK has recetly screened and ITZ series 
  "William and Mary" starring Martin Clunes as William an undertaker who falls 
  in love with a midwfe Mary.
  I have asked via feedback if ABC will screen it 
  does any one know of any other way of trying to get this interesting series on 
  our screens down under??Denise

RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage

[Julianne McDougall]

Have looked after a baby in Melb. whose mum was isoimmunised after TOP(s) with no Anti 
D given-fortunately doesn't happen too often-Julianne.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:00
To: DOH_HUB.dgwia."[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
DOH_HUB.dgwia."[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage


The discussion was referring to using anti d after miscarriage, in which
case you aren't able to ascertain the baby's blood type.

Cheers

Helen
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From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage


we only give anti d to NEG mums with a proven POS babe

love  Bethany


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From: Graham & Helen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 20:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage


What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative?
Something to bare in mind apart from the curette issue..

Helen C
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From: "jayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage


> I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having
a
> curette after mc and then lots of related health problems.
>
> I've had 3 mc's,  have never gone near a doctor and have healed very
quickly
> each time.
>
> Jayne
>
>
>
>
> > What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage?
> > I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature
take
> > its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as
> recommended.
> > I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a
> > routine procedure?
> >
>
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[sally westbury]

It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice.

Love Sally

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana
Brennan
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

Dear Jo,
Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for
inducing
labour.  When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women
with post dates pregnancy.  I looked at Induction of labour as one
approach
and conservative care as the other.  I didn't do any research as such,
it
was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the
care
of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective.
ie a
conservative approach vs induction of labour.

I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour
vs an
alternative approach  to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches,
perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal
surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their
effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative
practices to induce or augment labour.

Good luck with your studies.
Juliana


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M
Fisher
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic
and
my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not
one
to make quick decisions!
An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many
inductions
these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no
good
at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
Cheers,
Joanne.

- Original Message -
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I
have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin
K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in
our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research
the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B
immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and
idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and
it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do
babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring
phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals
seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating
blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to
the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses
and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me
thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again
after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observ

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Robin Moon]

Here you go Lois, http://www.colinheaney.com/  but half the pleasure is
picking out the hundreds of different colours he uses in the glass. It
really is the most wonderful studio to visit, (and I'm lucky enough to be
going up there again in a few weeks time)

cheers,
Robin.

- Original Message - 
From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Dear Robin, I had a look at this website and I'd like to know if it is
> possible to order these directly from Colin Heaney in Byron Bay, rather
than
> via the website which is USA based, and US$ p&h etc.  Any ideas?  Regards,
> Lois
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> This
> > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> tutor
> > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care.  She
(my
> > tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will
yet),
> so
> > I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects
> that
> > I could do a small research on.  I've never done anything like this
before
> > and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only
> > recently embarked on university studies).  I already have some vague
ideas
> > but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of.
> > I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something
that
>
> > symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't
been
> > able to think of a simple design to do.  Can anyone help???
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joanne (Fisher)
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[ozmidwifery] Article in the local paper...

[Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood]

Me again, here is the article, please excuse any typo's, I'll 
try and get it across as accurately as I can!  From the Hills Courier 
newspaper, Wed, July 23, 2003.
 
 
"Midwives popular choice with expectant 
mothers"
 
Expectant mothers are still choosing to birth with midwives 
despite problems with insurance and a lack of government support, a local 
midwife has said.
 
Stirling midwife Tania Smallwood said although midwives had 
not had access to professional indemnity insurance since July 2001, the number 
of women choosing midwives as carers during pregnancy and birth had not 
dropped.  "Quite the opposite really, we're very busy" she said.  

 
"I don't have insurance, like every other midwife in 
Australia.  There is no professional indemnity insurance available.  I 
practise with another midwife, Wendy Thornton, and we're actually very busy 
indeed, and turning people away."
 
Mrs Smallwood said although midwives were extremely popular, 
they were not held in the same esteem as other health professionals, such as 
doctors and dentists.  "If all our dentists lost their insurance all hell 
would break loose,"  she said.
 
"But we don't have a system here that supports a known 
midwife."
 
Mrs Smallwood said choosing a midwife as the primary care 
provider during pregnancy and birth could save the taxpayer up to $3000 a 
birth.
 
"Personal Care"
 
"If a woman decides to have antenatal care and postnatal care 
with a midwife and get out of hospital as quickly as possible, there is very 
little cost to the taxpayer," she said.
 
Mrs Smallwood said many women chose to be cared for by a 
midwife because it meant a more personal level of care.  "Women have got to 
stand up and say, 'I deserve to have someone I know right from the start who's 
there at the birth',"she said.
 
Expectant mother Casey Franchi of Lobethal said having a 
midwife assisting during the birth seemed the logical choice.  "It's more 
personal I think because you've built up such a strong relationship with your 
midwife through the pregnancy, you know them so much better," she 
said.
 
"Having a baby is such an amazing experience, why would you 
want a stranger to come in?"  Mrs Franchi, sho had her first child Angelina 
at the Women's and Children's Hospital with a midwife, said her 
second child would be born at home with an independent midwife assisting. 

RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Juliana Brennan]

Dear Jo,
Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing
labour.  When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women
with post dates pregnancy.  I looked at Induction of labour as one approach
and conservative care as the other.  I didn't do any research as such, it
was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care
of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective.  ie a
conservative approach vs induction of labour.

I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an
alternative approach  to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches,
perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal
surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their
effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative
practices to induce or augment labour.

Good luck with your studies.
Juliana


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M
Fisher
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and
my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not one
to make quick decisions!
An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions
these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good
at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
Cheers,
Joanne.

- Original Message -
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> This
> > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> tutor
> > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > enthusiastically spreading the word of contin

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Examination

[Judy Chapman]

Having made mistakes in the past with VE's I am now not happy to say I have felt the cervix until I have been able to really feel that edge and if possible and not painful, to be able to slip the finger tip right under it. 
Judy 



From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Examination 
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:54:55 +1000 

we've all done this in our life times I'm sure! I can remember calling the 
obstetrician for delivery, thinking all while that whilst I had felt her to 
be fully, she wasnt behaving fully. I should have listened to my inner 
voice. She was only 3cms. rgh. 

nowadays, I have learnt that the head or membranes or very thin cervix wall 
all feel different. Next time you've got a really posterior thin cervix, 
take time to 'feel' how that feels different from the latter two. 

The other trick i use is getting the women to sit on their hands if you're 
not immediately sure of what you're feeling. It has the effect of swinging 
the pelvis forward and allows you a different 'view' of the VE. 

Dont waste too much time stressing. We've all done it. 

Robin 

- Original Message - 
From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:50 PM 
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Examination 


> ive not made this mistake but have had another midwife chech ve's as i 
was very unsure of a similar situation. as other have said try not to beat 
yourself up over it, we have all done something similar at one time or 
another. it is an excellent goad to try not to repeat the mistake though. i 
have come up with a few little tricks to ensure i don't make mistakes i have 
made in the past again. 
> 
> love Bethany 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Andrea Quanchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 19:10 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Examination 
> 
> 
> Jean 
> You are certainly not alone in this as sometimes it can be really hard 
> to tell what you are feeling. Sometimes you put your fingers into the 
> anterior fornix and can feel the head through the vaginal wall which is 
> stretched so thin that you can hardly feel it. You feel the baby so well 
> that the natural assumption is that you are in the cervix. In this case 
> the cervix is often so posterior that you cant find it without making 
> the woman really uncomfortable. I'd like to meet the midwife who can 
> claim never to have made this mistake. Practice wil help and I would 
> suggest starting with women who are likely to be more dilated and 
> therfore easier to ascertain. then work backwards. Even better have 
> someone who is confident do the VE first and then have them talk you 
> through what they could feel as you are doing it. This is a really good 
> way to realise what you are actually feeling. The trouble with all this 
> is that none of it is good for the woman as it often interrupts the flow 
> of the labour. 
> If you can discuss it with the women before they are in labour it might 
> be easier for everyone. Women understand the need for us to learn and 
> are usually more than willing to co operate if it is approached in the 
> right way. 
> 
> Andrea Q 
> On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 07:17 PM, Steve Docherty wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > I would like to ask any midwives if they have ever completly stuffed up 
> > a vaginal examination as I would dearly love some reassurance that I'm 
> > not going completly mad. I have been a partime Midwife for 4 years, 
> > have not had a lot of labour ward experience but enough to not make 
> > stupid mistakes. 
> > I was looking after a primip who had SROM at term the day before and 
> > was having niggly contractions 2-3-in10. I was looking after her 
> > overnight, she was a private patient . She had had some pethidine 
> > overnight to get some sleep and the idea was to start syntocinon in the 
> > am if she hadn't got into active labour. Four hours after the pethidine 
> > wore off this was about 0500am she was wanting some more pain relief 
> > and was considering an epidural before the syntocinon started. I 
> > suggested doing a vaginal examination as she looked as though things 
> > were picking up slightly. I did a v.e. and thought I felt 5cm dilated. 
> > fully effaced -1. I handed this over to the day shift and anther 
> > vaginal examination wasnt done until 6 hours later, at this exam she 
> > was 2cm posterior 0.5 cm thick -2 . 
> > I keep asking myself what was I feeling to get my result?. It did cross 
> > my mind that she was too comfortable looking but this can be deceiving 
> > at times. I probably didnt go posteriorly enough , but I thought I 
> > felt the rim of the cervix in the mid position???. I'm now not on 
> > labour ward as I rotate so cannot do more vaginal exams to help myself 
> > feel more confident. I will just have to wait until I work on labour 
> > ward aga

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

Good idea Lois!!
Love Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Hi Jo - how about picking some photo's or pictures you like, scanning
them,
> printing them out, and using them for your template for your mosaic.  Or
you
> could use the pictures themselves, cut up, mosaic style??  Love Lois
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mrs Joanne M Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic
and
> my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not
one
> to make quick decisions!
> An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions
> these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
> ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
> The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no
good
> at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
> Cheers,
> Joanne.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
> >
> > Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I
have
> > two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
> feel.
> >  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
> >
> > Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin
K.
> > Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in
our
> > hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research
the
> > current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B
immunised,
> > and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Robin
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and
idea
> > for
> > > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
> classic
> > > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> > breast.
> > >
> > > love  Bethany
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do
babies
> > > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring
phototherapy?
> > Do
> > > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
> incidence
> > of
> > > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals
seem
> > to
> > > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> > denominator
> > > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating
blood,
> > so
> > > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> > >
> > > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to
the
> > CMP
> > > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses
and
> > > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> > about
> > > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > > To: Ozmidwifery
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> > This
> > > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> > tutor
> > > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > > enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care.  She
> (my
> > > tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will
> yet),
> > so
> > > I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for
subjects
> > that
> > > I could do a small research on.  I've never done anything like this
> before
> > > and know 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Lois Wattis]

Hi Jo - how about picking some photo's or pictures you like, scanning them,
printing them out, and using them for your template for your mosaic.  Or you
could use the pictures themselves, cut up, mosaic style??  Love Lois

- Original Message -
From: "Mrs Joanne M Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and
my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not one
to make quick decisions!
An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions
these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good
at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
Cheers,
Joanne.

- Original Message -
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> This
> > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> tutor
> > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care.  She
(my
> > tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will
yet),
> so
> > I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects
> that
> > I could do a small research on.  I've never done anything like this
before
> > and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only
> > recently embarked on university studies).  I already have some vague
ideas
> > but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of.
> > I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something
that
> > symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't
been
> > able to think of a simple design to do.  Can anyone help???
> >
> > Cheers,
> 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and
my table.  If there are any more ideas please send them to me.  I'm not one
to make quick decisions!
An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions
these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that?  The
ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions.
The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good
at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic!
Cheers,
Joanne.

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?


> Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table?
>
> Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have
> two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and
feel.
>  http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml.
>
> Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K.
> Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our
> hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the
> current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised,
> and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding?
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Neretlis, Bethany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
>
>
> > jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea
> for
> > artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the
classic
> > breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers
> breast.
> >
> > love  Bethany
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Hi Jo!  (HUG!!)  Great to hear from you.
> > Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K
> > administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's
> > (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns.   Do babies
> > given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy?
> Do
> > babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less
incidence
> of
> > jaundice?  It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem
> to
> > develop jaundice which requires phototherapy.  Could the common
> denominator
> > be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood,
> so
> > therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated
> > bilirubin?  I wonder?.
> >
> > Idea's for a mosaic?  What about something similarly constructed to the
> CMP
> > logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and
> > linked figures holding hands around the edge?  You've got me thinking
> about
> > art work now!  Take care my friend, love Lois
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher
> > To: Ozmidwifery
> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after
> > spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the
> > fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there).
> This
> > is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've been asked by my
> tutor
> > to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be
> > enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care.  She
(my
> > tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will
yet),
> so
> > I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects
> that
> > I could do a small research on.  I've never done anything like this
before
> > and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only
> > recently embarked on university studies).  I already have some vague
ideas
> > but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of.
> > I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something
that
> > symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't
been
> > able to think of a simple design to do.  Can anyone help???
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joanne (Fisher)
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