Re: [ozmidwifery] NICE guidlines for C Section published
For obvious reasons one cannot tell a group of pregnant women that they must give birth vaginally, while other women - at random - are told they must have a caesarean. SEND IT ON TO CROWTHER AND THE ACTOBAC CREW - Original Message - From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:21 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] NICE guidlines for C Section published Debbie wrote Interestingly, it says there should be RCT's to compare vaginal birth and sections !!! I am nearly finished reading Michel Odent's, The Caesarean, and twice he has commented on RCT re this topic. To quote For obvious reasons one cannot tell a group of pregnant women that they must give birth vaginally, while other women - at random - are told they must have a caesarean. Why is the blatantly obvious missed by so many others? Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials
Hi Denise. I am definitely going to the ABA conference, so will catch up with you there. I got in contact with Rochelle (Hi!) and will attend one of the Birth Place meetings in Joondalup. I just need to look up to see if there is one tomorrow because I have the day off. Things in JHC are ok - rather hectic though. I went to an 'obstetric emergencies' lecture today, and it was good to recap all of the manouvers again. Talk to you soon, Jo Original Message From: Denise HyndTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:25 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Greatconference specials Dear Jo How are things in JHC and any luck with Birthplace Northern suburbs contact?? If you do not go to the AbA conference come to the Perth activity in Forrest Place Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specialsThanks Barb :) Looking forward to it. Jo Original Message From: barbara glare chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Hi Just turn up. You will definately be there. In fact I'll look you up on the website in a minute and confirm, but I know you'll be there. You will get a receipt on the day Barb - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Barbara, I registered for the conference in Perth, but haven't heard anything back yet... Should I just turn up, or call someone to confirm first? Thanks, Jo Original Message From: barbara glare chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Hi, If you are going to the Australian Breastfeeding Association's Breastfeeding: Science and Expereince, come prepared to avail yourself of some great conference specials Subscribe to the LRC. All that at your fingertips, including subscription to Breastfeeding Review. Currently $142 SEMINAR SPECIAL $120.00 Hot new posters A3 Black and White. Same photo as conf brochure . See photo at www.lrc.asn.au A3 $4.00 each Slogan - Breastmilk. Goodness right to the last drop Conference CDs or printed booklet. Free with your conference registration or $8 each otherwise. Dr Jane Morton's Video "A Premie needs his mum" 2 video pack (part A and Part B, boxed together, only $99. (normally $132) Great accompaniment for breastpump hire in your group. Other great stuffknitted breastsWA Rebecca Cool MugsThe new adoptive breastfeeding and relactation booklet.Breastfeeding establishment keyrings -only *.50 - a must for midwives and up-dated with the "new" breast diagram, great breastfeeding artwork. ... Study modules The new multi-language breastfeeding information CD Heaps and heaps of great stuff and no postage. If you really, really want something, it might be best to check with ABA that it will be there. To register for the seminar go to www.lrc.asn.au Barb Glare Mum of Zac, 11, Daniel 9, Cassie 6 and Guan 1 Breastfeeding counsellor ABA Warrnambool Group Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.abavic.asn.au-- Babies are Born... Pizzas are delivered.
[ozmidwifery] Helpful hint
The Art of Midwifery I have been a midwife since 1979, and in all these years I think the best help for a mom with a posterior-positioned baby is to have her sit on the toilet backward with her feet flat on the floor. Sometimes I apply pressure to her back with my hand or apply heat with a warmed-up rice bag. Linda Thorpe, CNM, Fort Edward NY
Re: [ozmidwifery] Helpful hint
I love these snippets you put on here Mary - thanks! Sadie - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Helpful hint The Art of Midwifery I have been a midwife since 1979, and in all these years I think the best help for a mom with a posterior-positioned baby is to have her sit on the toilet backward with her feet flat on the floor. Sometimes I apply pressure to her back with my hand or apply heat with a warmed-up rice bag. Linda Thorpe, CNM, Fort Edward NY
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials
Dear Jo I will not be at the ABA conference I am involved in the Maternity Coalition National Day of Action activity in Forrest Pl. Can you email me off list and I will send you a flyer to circulate at JHCThanks Denise - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Hi Denise. I am definitely going to the ABA conference, so will catch up with you there. I got in contact with Rochelle (Hi!) and will attend one of the Birth Place meetings in Joondalup. I just need to look up to see if there is one tomorrow because I have the day off. Things in JHC are ok - rather hectic though. I went to an 'obstetric emergencies' lecture today, and it was good to recap all of the manouvers again. Talk to you soon, Jo Original Message From: Denise HyndTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:25 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Greatconference specials Dear Jo How are things in JHC and any luck with Birthplace Northern suburbs contact?? If you do not go to the AbA conference come to the Perth activity in Forrest Place Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Thanks Barb :) Looking forward to it. Jo Original Message From: barbara glare chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Hi Just turn up. You will definately be there. In fact I'll look you up on the website in a minute and confirm, but I know you'll be there. You will get a receipt on the day Barb - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Barbara, I registered for the conference in Perth, but haven't heard anything back yet... Should I just turn up, or call someone to confirm first? Thanks, Jo Original Message From: barbara glare chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Science and Experience Great conference specials Hi, If you are going to the Australian Breastfeeding Association's Breastfeeding: Science and Expereince, come prepared to avail yourself of some great conference specials Subscribe to the LRC. All that at your fingertips, including subscription to Breastfeeding Review. Currently $142 SEMINAR SPECIAL $120.00 Hot new posters A3 Black and White. Same photo as conf brochure . See photo at www.lrc.asn.au A3 $4.00 each Slogan - Breastmilk. Goodness right to the last drop Conference CDs or printed booklet. Free with your conference registration or $8 each otherwise. Dr Jane Morton's Video "A Premie needs his mum" 2 video pack (part A and Part B, boxed together, only $99. (normally $132) Great accompaniment for breastpump hire in your group. Other great stuffknitted breastsWA Rebecca Cool MugsThe new adoptive breastfeeding and relactation booklet.Breastfeeding establishment keyrings -only *.50 - a must for midwives and up-dated with the "new" breast diagram, great breastfeeding artwork. ... Study modules The new multi-language breastfeeding information CD Heaps and heaps of great stuff and no postage. If you really, really want something, it might be best to check with ABA that it will be there. To register for the seminar go to www.lrc.asn.au Barb Glare Mum of Zac, 11, Daniel 9, Cassie 6 and Guan 1 Breastfeeding counsellor ABA Warrnambool Group Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.abavic.asn.au-- Babies are Born... Pizzas are delivered.
[ozmidwifery] Re workshops in Brisbane
Hi Brisbane ladies, I am coming to Brisbane to speak at ABA seminar on Tuesday but will be also doing a 2 hour toddler workshop on Monday am and a talk at 7pm on Monday night at the Esther Centre, Cnr Peel and merivale Sts, South Brisbane. If anyone would likemore info, please email meoffline. Also, if any of you have fliers re your business/ maternity coalition etc, I am happy to have them there for parents. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
[ozmidwifery] ?address for AIMS
Can anyone tell me if AIMS Australia still exists? If so I'd love to have the latest contact address. Ta Jan Jan Robinson 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Australia Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 www: midwiferyeducation.com.au National Coordinator Australian Society of Independently Practising Midwives (ASIM)
Re: [ozmidwifery] Helpful hint
Me too Mary. You are a gem! Can I put this one in the next Communique? Jan On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, at 09:53 PM, Sadie wrote: I love these snippets you put on here Mary - thanks! Sadie - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Helpful hint The Art of MidwiferyThe Art of Midwifery I have been a midwife since 1979, and in all these years I think the best help for a mom with a posterior-positioned baby is to have her sit on the toilet backward with her feet flat on the floor. Sometimes I apply pressure to her back with my hand or apply heat with a warmed-up rice bag. Linda Thorpe, CNM, Fort Edward NY Jan Robinson 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Australia Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 www: midwiferyeducation.com.au National Coordinator Australian Society of Independently Practising Midwives (ASIM)
[ozmidwifery] funds for professional development
Hi Laraine (Think I've finally learned to spell your name right!) I am interested in the Maggie Banks workshop, probably December. So just putting my bid in if the funding becomes reality. Let me know what you think of it. Cheers Lynda - Original Message - From: Laraine Hood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Australian research My onlyquestion isdo we impose what we as midwives want on women? Surely if they want their baby weighed for whatever reason, they have that right. Otherwise it is again limiting women's choice. Ihave heard ofmidwives who refuse to weigh the baby until the next day, do we have that right? Even if their reasons are that they teach the mum to look at their baby and assess its growth etc rather than relying on weighing, but again , do we have that right to say what they can and can't do? No criticism, just thoughts. Cheers, Laraine - Original Message - From: Judy Chapman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Australian research Hear, Hear Sadie. I won't weigh the baby before feeding unless we have tried and baby is not ready. I often joke with the women about them not even knowing what a pound is. They want it for the grandparents. Cheers Judy Sadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting research Mary - however it is quite amazing how many couples want their baby weighed before even considering feeding! And why do people insist on knowing the baby's weight in the old imperial system of pounds?? Even really young couples want to know the weight in pounds! Cheers, Sadie Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] natural birthing options in Adelaide
Unfortunately your friend is out of the catchment area to have her baby with the Midwifery group practice at the women's and children's hospital, although she can still go to the Wch delivery suite. The is an excellent birthing centre at Flinders hospital which would be closer to her. Kathy - Original Message - From: Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] natural birthing options in Adelaide Hi there everyone! This message was posted on a parenting forum, Ithought Id copy it here to see if anyone could help. Thanks in advance! Melissah My best friend is pregnant and looking at birthing options - she wanted to go to the Womens Childrens birthing centre but lives in Belair so was told she was 'out of the catchment area'. Does anyone have any info I can pass on to her for Adelaide ? www.Splitart.com - Original Message - From: Debbie Slater To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MCMgtCte ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] NICE guidlines for C Section published The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) in the UK have just published their CS guidelines. Haven't studied them in detail (it's about 60 odd pages), but here are summaries of some of the points I picked up (I think): CS should not be offered before 39 weeks; Women should be advised that a homebirth will reduce their risk of a section, but using midwifery-led units doesn't !!! Continous support in labour reduces risk of CS; Induction should not be offered until after 41 weeks; Maternal request should not be a reason for a section; Active managment and early amniotomy should not be offered, but a four hour partogram should be used !!; EFM increases the likelihood of a CS; Breech presentation should be offered ECV before a section is offered; Twin pregnancies should try vaginal birth if first twin is cephalic; VBAC should be supported Interestingly, it says there should be RCT's to compare vaginal birth and sections !!! For the full guidelines - see http://www.nice.org.uk/Cat.asp?pn%20=publiccn=toplevelln=en Debbie Perth, WA
Re: [ozmidwifery] Helpful hint
Jan, the quote comes from Midwifery Today E News, 6:9 - 28th April 2004. I am sure that Jan Tritten (Editor) wouldn't mind as long as it is attributed. Cheers, MM Jan wrote" Can I put this one in the next Communique?"
Re: [ozmidwifery] natural birthing options in Adelaide
Has your friend tried the birthing unit at Flinders Medical Centre, Great place, wonderful staff, don't know about catchment area though? Good Luck, Tracey - Original Message - From: Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] natural birthing options in Adelaide Hi there everyone! This message was posted on a parenting forum, Ithought Id copy it here to see if anyone could help. Thanks in advance! Melissah My best friend is pregnant and looking at birthing options - she wanted to go to the Womens Childrens birthing centre but lives in Belair so was told she was 'out of the catchment area'. Does anyone have any info I can pass on to her for Adelaide ? www.Splitart.com - Original Message - From: Debbie Slater To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MCMgtCte ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] NICE guidlines for C Section published The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) in the UK have just published their CS guidelines. Haven't studied them in detail (it's about 60 odd pages), but here are summaries of some of the points I picked up (I think): CS should not be offered before 39 weeks; Women should be advised that a homebirth will reduce their risk of a section, but using midwifery-led units doesn't !!! Continous support in labour reduces risk of CS; Induction should not be offered until after 41 weeks; Maternal request should not be a reason for a section; Active managment and early amniotomy should not be offered, but a four hour partogram should be used !!; EFM increases the likelihood of a CS; Breech presentation should be offered ECV before a section is offered; Twin pregnancies should try vaginal birth if first twin is cephalic; VBAC should be supported Interestingly, it says there should be RCT's to compare vaginal birth and sections !!! For the full guidelines - see http://www.nice.org.uk/Cat.asp?pn%20=publiccn=toplevelln=en Debbie Perth, WA
