Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi Raelene My husband and I Co-slept and continue to do so with our two children. Infact when they are not sleeping with us they are sleeping together in one of their beds (super cute). My husband and I never worried about smothering them and I found it somewhat troubling that hospital staff would freakout when you feel asleep with baby on the breast. So good on you for looking into this so women and their babies have an option other than getting no sleep alone or getting sleep together. For the record I am sure that I would have struggled more (and she was difficult) in 18 months of my daughters life if I did not co sleep with her. Babies are smart and they instictively know when they are close to mum. Also with all of this 'secure attachment' theories that some governement maternal health centres are preaching you would think that co-sleeping would be encouraged and not scare tactics on increasing SIDS. Co-sleeping also makes everyone else happy as they are not listening to a grumpy, sleep depraived mother and her snitchy, overtired (and lonely) baby. Amy Rigano - Original Message - From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
I put on almost 20kg and mine had to be broken after the birth :) I know it's just anecdote, but I find this stuff interesting. Jo On 22/01/2007, at 9:21 AM, Michelle Windsor wrote: I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http:// au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
I am also in favour for at least putting the case to new parents for co-sleeping... I hear so often in my classes - in the coffee breaks - that the new mums are terrified of setting up bad habits and have heard so-and-so had made that mistake and was having a nihgtmare now. I had one extreme case of an older mum so concerned about 'spoiling' the baby that she only picked her up for feeding times and wouldn't let the husband hold her too often!! I think it's a case for explaining to new parents - whats the worst that could happen: maybe the toddler gets used to parents bed for 'too' ong - but the positives are - as everyone has mentioned - a less tired mum - not needing to completely wake up in the night when feeding and having a more secure and contented baby - as they say a secure infant is a confident child. My 3rd was cosleeping by default as my 3yr old and 18mth old were challenging enough and contemplating forcing a crying baby into a cot every night was too much to deal with! - Maybe not surprisingly she was the one who was happy to be in her own cot space by about 6 months and never had bed time issues. Isn't there a study that gives infants who sleep in the same bed / room as their parents much less of a risk of SIDS? (sorry can;t remember the ref. -) is is somethnig to do with the immaturity of their respiritory system being 'reminded' by the parents rhythm and even the higher CO2 concentration close to the baby initiates a breathing reflex. Steph- perth - Original Message - From: diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping I found this one too... http://www.babybunk.com/whatis.htm Di - Original Message - From: Kristi Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi Raelene, Here are just a few websites I found re: co-sleeping cots...hope this helps! http://www.babydelight.com/snuggle_nest.html - The Snuggle Nest http://armsreach.com/ - Bassinettes that attach to the side of the bed for baby http://www.thefirstyears.com - On this page, go down to the 'Safe Secure Sleeper' to see another version of the Snuggle Nest http://www.babybunk.com/ More bassinettes that attach to the side of the bed All the best, Kristi Midwifery student, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George, Raelene Sent: January 21, 2007 9:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1995 (20070121) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Having worked in Vietnam for 8 months - I asked some of the women how long before the baby sleeps in his own bed in Vietnam? They said, usually by 5 years when they go to school but often not until about 8!! Western culture is warped on this subject. Hey I realise co-sleeping has its downsides too but it's a matter of meeting everyone's needs the best way you can. Helen Mother of a 9 year old who still sleeps in our room in a bed next to ours. - Original Message - From: James Fairbairn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping I am also in favour for at least putting the case to new parents for co-sleeping... I hear so often in my classes - in the coffee breaks - that the new mums are terrified of setting up bad habits and have heard so-and-so had made that mistake and was having a nihgtmare now. I had one extreme case of an older mum so concerned about 'spoiling' the baby that she only picked her up for feeding times and wouldn't let the husband hold her too often!! I think it's a case for explaining to new parents - whats the worst that could happen: maybe the toddler gets used to parents bed for 'too' ong - but the positives are - as everyone has mentioned - a less tired mum - not needing to completely wake up in the night when feeding and having a more secure and contented baby - as they say a secure infant is a confident child. My 3rd was cosleeping by default as my 3yr old and 18mth old were challenging enough and contemplating forcing a crying baby into a cot every night was too much to deal with! - Maybe not surprisingly she was the one who was happy to be in her own cot space by about 6 months and never had bed time issues. Isn't there a study that gives infants who sleep in the same bed / room as their parents much less of a risk of SIDS? (sorry can;t remember the ref. -) is is somethnig to do with the immaturity of their respiritory system being 'reminded' by the parents rhythm and even the higher CO2 concentration close to the baby initiates a breathing reflex. Steph- perth - Original Message - From: diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping I found this one too... http://www.babybunk.com/whatis.htm Di - Original Message - From: Kristi Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi Raelene, Here are just a few websites I found re: co-sleeping cots...hope this helps! http://www.babydelight.com/snuggle_nest.html - The Snuggle Nest http://armsreach.com/ - Bassinettes that attach to the side of the bed for baby http://www.thefirstyears.com - On this page, go down to the 'Safe Secure Sleeper' to see another version of the Snuggle Nest http://www.babybunk.com/ More bassinettes that attach to the side of the bed All the best, Kristi Midwifery student, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George, Raelene Sent: January 21, 2007 9:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1995 (20070121) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1995 (20070121) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
There is heaps of info out there in cyberspace on co-sleeping. To add to your list - look up any information by Dr James McKenna. He is from US or Canada and spoke at an ABA conference in Hobart in 2005. He was fantastic! I grew up in Asia (parents worked there from when I was a baby) and the only model of sleeping that I was aware of was co-sleeping. When a baby/child moves out of the parental bed, it's into a bed with siblings, aunties, grandmothers etc. Sleep in never solitary. Maternity units assume co-sleeping and breastfeeding. BTW, we co-slept all three children and very tactile 5 year old still visits in the wee hours for her snuggle time. Also, I was speaking to a girlfriend in UK in Dec, who just had her first baby - breech LSCS. From when she returned from theatres, she had a co-sleeping cot attached to her bed. She was told that all LSCS mums had one attached. This normalised co-sleeping for her and she has kept doing it at home. Good luck with finding the information you are after. Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George, Raelene Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
We use these in England they are called clip on cots. not sure where to get them from but can try to find out for you. We have them on all beds to promote breastfeeding. Shelly - Original Message - From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.2/641 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 10:24 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Maybe I am alone in this but having coslept with our first and used a cot for #2 I found the opposite to be true - I get so much better quality sleep without the baby in bed with me that it is definitely worthwhile getting up even three times a night to feed her and then put her back in the cot. She is wonderfully secure and content and I really feel we have brought out the best in her sleep tendencies rather than the worst as we did with #1. Sleeping well is a life skill and to be honest I don't feel that we did #1 any favourss. I am not suggesting that cosleeping be discrouraged, we would absolutely have done it again if the bassinets/cot plan hadn't worked. But I guess I just don't think that cosleeping is necessarily a miracle cure either. I think the best solution is assuring parents that cosleeping can be done safely, that they can't spoil a baby and that they should do what works for them whatever that is. On 22/01/2007, at 8:53 PM, James Fairbairn wrote: but the positives are - as everyone has mentioned - a less tired mum - not needing to completely wake up in the night when feeding and having a more secure and contented baby
RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Know where you are coming from Jo. LOL We started co-sleping with #3, shift in ideas and necessity as he was a shocking sleeper. Even with being in bed with me he needed to be rocked for long periods through the night. Finally after 2 years we had our first full night sleep. We are still sleeping with #4 and at 2 1/2yrs we are trying to achieve something close to a full nights sleep. Both were and little one still is demand fed, which included many feeds during the night. I wouldn't change it, I have no doubt that with #3 in particular, that he was just not into sleeping and a cot set up would have never worked. The best part was waking up to his beautiful pudgy face in the morning, seeing your child wake is a truly priceless experience. For us, our 2 that slept in a cot were the best sleepers. After 5 years of very poor sleep I am exhausted and for us co-sleeping hasn't been quite as dreamy as it is often spelt out. Possibly just unlucky in having 2 non-sleepers, in which case laying in bed settling is much easier than standing next to a cot for hours. But, what I wouldn't give for a good nights sleep. Looking after 4 boys under 8 requires enormous amount of energy and a sleep deprived Mum is not always so pretty... cheers Megan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 8:44 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Maybe I am alone in this but having coslept with our first and used a cot for #2 I found the opposite to be true - I get so much better quality sleep without the baby in bed with me that it is definitely worthwhile getting up even three times a night to feed her and then put her back in the cot. She is wonderfully secure and content and I really feel we have brought out the best in her sleep tendencies rather than the worst as we did with #1. Sleeping well is a life skill and to be honest I don't feel that we did #1 any favourss. I am not suggesting that cosleeping be discrouraged, we would absolutely have done it again if the bassinets/cot plan hadn't worked. But I guess I just don't think that cosleeping is necessarily a miracle cure either. I think the best solution is assuring parents that cosleeping can be done safely, that they can't spoil a baby and that they should do what works for them whatever that is. On 22/01/2007, at 8:53 PM, James Fairbairn wrote: but the positives are - as everyone has mentioned - a less tired mum - not needing to completely wake up in the night when feeding and having a more secure and contented baby
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Sounds like that would be a really handy product! In their absence, though, there's always the good old side-car cot (remove side from cot, tie the cot to the side of the adult bed so it doesn't slip away from the bed, place a sheet over both the adult bed and the cot so there's no gap or suffocation risk for baby) which can be set up with any cot. :) Felicity - Membership Officer and Site Admin Every woman, and every baby, and every family deserve Joyous Birth! http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Australian home birth network. Remember this, for it is as true as true gets: your body is not a lemon! - Ina May Gaskin - Original Message - From: michelle gascoigne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping We use these in England they are called clip on cots. not sure where to get them from but can try to find out for you. We have them on all beds to promote breastfeeding. Shelly - Original Message - From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.2/641 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 10:24 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] ABPNS Conference - Andrea, Justine, Barb Carolyn to speak
As the subject states, updated industry speakers include Andrea Robertson (Birth International), Justine Caines (MC), Carolyn Hastie (Midwifery Manager, Belmont Birth Centre) and Barb Glare (ABA) who will all speak on the current and past industry challenges and achievements, and how/what we can all help move forward sooner. I have also invited Nicola Roxton from the ALP party, she is currently on leave, but I am chasing it up as quick as I can and shall use my best powers of persuasion! A reminder that this event in the Sofitel Melbourne is a once-off event only. Due to the huge amounts of time and effort required in planning these conferences, I am not planning on running this event again. So once we're full, we're full - the other rooms are booked out so we can't get more space. If you want this one and only opportunity to hear our best Australian industry speakers in the one room, while learning the secrets to getting your message across to consumers, the media and developing personally and professionally, you need to make a commitment to be there and book quickly. Be involved in an industry first. http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au/ - while you are there don't forget to add yourself to the mailing list for updates. If you can help in any way distributing flyers or spreading the word, please email me. Looking forward to seeing you there - it's going to be an amazing, charged conference - you'll be soo disappointed if you miss it. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support
RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
We did this and #3 still managed to find his way to the end of it and fall out of bed. I put a high backed chair in the way, so he fell out of the other side of the bed. The answer was to put the mattress on the floor, and there it stayed for a long time. My bedroom is never going to win any Better Homes and Gardens decoration award. Doesn't matter how pretty a quilt cover I buy, the Thomas the Tank one immediately next to it will always shine brighter. LoL Keeping a sense of humour helps, Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Felicity Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 9:15 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Sounds like that would be a really handy product! In their absence, though, there's always the good old side-car cot (remove side from cot, tie the cot to the side of the adult bed so it doesn't slip away from the bed, place a sheet over both the adult bed and the cot so there's no gap or suffocation risk for baby) which can be set up with any cot. :) Felicity - Membership Officer and Site Admin Every woman, and every baby, and every family deserve Joyous Birth! http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Australian home birth network. Remember this, for it is as true as true gets: your body is not a lemon! - Ina May Gaskin - Original Message - From: michelle gascoigne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping We use these in England they are called clip on cots. not sure where to get them from but can try to find out for you. We have them on all beds to promote breastfeeding. Shelly - Original Message - From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.2/641 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 10:24 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping
Hi all! Just a word on the co-sleeping issue. Was told not to when I had my first child who is now 30 but tiredness won me over in the first couple of weeks so into the bed she came. Same thing happened with second child 12 months later. On and off they co-slept and, even now, when visiting and staying over (although they only live 5 minutes away), they jump at the chance to sleep in bed with Mum when Dad is away working. My grandson always sleeps with me when he stays as does my almost 4 year old grand daughter. My youngest daughter also co-sleeps with her children. Never any problems other than the occasional falling out of bed but the mattress on the floor does the trick there! Cheers Ramona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 5:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping Yes! So true. As a permanent P/T night-duty person, I hear the don't want to get him/her into a bad habit far too often. I find by night 2/3 they are so tired, they think that co-sleeping is a possibility and I encourage them fully! Mine still manage to find their way into our bed, and the youngest little possum is 4!! But at least they don't wander in until 4-5am now. Cheryl From: Ken Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:27:17 +1100 It's not necessarily the midwives preventing co-sleeping. I often hear 'the baby's been awake all night. Would go to sleep and wake up as soon as I put him down.' When suggestions are made to co-sleep, they don't want to start bad habits. a lot of women are influenced by their mothers, partners etc, who don't approve of co-sleeping., thank God the influence on breast feeding isn't quite as strong as it used to be. It's strange, these little ones are expected to sleep on a hard, cold surface after been snuggled up listening to mum for months. If I remember right a co-sleeping policy was short and sweet. Mum had to be sedative free, the bedside up and bed as low as possible. Ken Maureen Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie
Hear, hear Suzi! I would have to agree with you. After two years working with women all around this amazing country of ours, I still say that my eight years in Kalgoorlie taught me the most. Hi Raelene and team. Good Luck with the co-sleeping issue. I have found that Australia wide many policies are forcing babies out of their mothers beds! Very frustrating! Donna Towers
[ozmidwifery] hb mw byron bay?
Hi all, I have a couple of enquiries atm for Byron. Who's local? : ) TIA, J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]