RE: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre
What I wonderful way to have a baby no intervention or medicalization of a natural process. The woman wants to be congratulated for that. A very rare way to have a baby nowdays unless you have the baby at home. As a student I was privy to this type of birth only once and although it was fast it was great. Regards sharon _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki Macfarlane Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 6:16 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre You know what, I have a different take on this. If the newspaper article has reported accurately what the parents said (and I highly doubt they have, but for the sake of argument lets give themt he benefit of the doubt!), there are some serious failings of expectations here and little empathy going on from the medical staff. The mother was rushed to hospital by ambulance and arrived in the later stages of labor - this in itself appeared to be distressing for her as it appeared she was taken by surprise by the speed with which labor was progressing. So, now having arrived in advanced labor, she is not checked as she expects to be and does not appear to have a midwife in the room with her. Now that may be because she does not appear to be in strong labour, or that there is no midwife available. But from the mother's perspective, it is not what she expects. She feels out of control, in intense pain, and not receiving the level of hospital support she is expecting. She could have called for help and support or asked her husband to go and find a midwife. But her expectations were not being met. And it is a pretty reasonable expectation to have a midwife at the very least to reassure a mother who feels she is in strong labor, and realistically to be checking or staying by her side if she appears to be imminently birthing. At the point at which the baby is born, both parents describe themselves as frantic. This was not the experience they were hoping for. Yes, she did it without pain medication or any intervention. Yes, this is what many women aspire to. Yes, this is better for baby and mother healthwise in most circumstances. However, the mother felt unsupported, and the father felt panicky. And the hospital's response? We are as disappointed as Kay and Michael that the birth of their second child did not go according to plan, but babies have a mind of their own sometimes. Really? What a leap! To make the assumption that the midwives feel the same degree of disappointment as the parents. Yes, babies do sometimes come quicker than anticipated. What would have been nice is for this mum and dad to have been heard and had their sense of distress and lack of support acknowledged. Whether the midwives felt justified in their actions or not, the parents still felt the way they did. The mum was in the hospital for at least an hour and appeared to have no midwifery support during that time. I get that there may have been none available. But to dismiss the whole affair with a patronising comment about how the midwives are just as upset as the parents is hardly effective communication and certainly not displaying good listening skills towards the parents. Now of course, the whole newspaper article may be complete tosh and the parents/midwives may not have said anything that was attributed to them in the quotes. Always a shame that such stories are not seen as an opportunity to talk about how incredible our bodies are or how tragic it is that the health system the world over is failing women because of shortages of experienced midwives, or a multitude of other approaches that would be more beneficial towards women and babies. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 8:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 8:40 PM
RE: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre
I completely understand what Nikki is saying and agree with her abut the mothers expectations and lack of midwifery care. I also agree with the comment about the patronizing tone used to the mother..the midwives are upset. It reminds me of the Cheif medical officer of a tertiary hospital telling a woman who was holding her stillborn baby, that she had upset all my staff (drs m/ws) by refusing a caesarean early enough to save the baby. Callousness at its best. Amanda, I believe that a clean toilet is one of the cleanest places in the house, and maybe even the hospital. I agree with your view that birthing on the toilet or on the toilet floor isn't a negative thing but- Chosing to birth on the toilet is a bit different from being left alone and terrified. Lots of home birthing women choose the toilet as the most comfortable and efficient. MM
[ozmidwifery] Folic acid article
Pregnant women urged to check folic acid dosage http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1832921.htm New Australian research has found that most pregnant women are not taking enough folic acid, leaving their unborn babies at risk of spinal cord defects. The study has found only 30 per cent of pregnant women are having adequate folic acid. Health authorities recommended women consume 400 micrograms of folic acid per day in the lead-up to conception and in the first three months of pregnancy. Professor Alaistair McLennan from the University of Adelaide says some brands of supplements do not contain the recommended dose. He says women need to be aware they may not be adequately protecting their baby. Australian food authorities are currently considering whether to add folate to bread and flour.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre
Well actually for my first and only labour and birth (so far) I took two panadol when I thought I could not stand it any longer!! (P.S I had no other drugs!) - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre I can obviously see why this mum's distressed, but I can help ask why she was surprised no one offered her Panadol. Having been in labour my fair share of times, never has it been offered and I think I would have laughed if it had been! Kylie From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:33:54 +1100 Mum gives birth in toilet Jane Metlikovec January 24, 2007 12:00am A MOTHER says her baby daughter was born in a hospital toilet bowl and had to be rescued after staff ignored her screams for help. Kay, 24, was in the final stages of labour when she was rushed by ambulance to Monash Medical Centre on Tuesday last week. In a statement to the Herald Sun yesterday, the hospital said it regretted the birth did not go according to plan. At the hospital, the Mt Waverley mother of two was told to wait in a standard share room instead of being directed to a birthing suite, despite having contractions fewer than two minutes apart. A midwife saw me when I came in and pressed on my stomach once. Nobody checked if I was dilated. I didn't even get offered a Panadol, Kay said. An hour after arriving, distressed and screaming in agony, she went to the toilet, where she gave birth to a girl. Her husband Michael, who had become frantic, had hit an emergency buzzer in panic to try to get help, but he said none came in time so he kicked down the locked door and ran in, pulling the infant from the toilet bowl. Kay said she was terrified her daughter could have died, and described the ordeal as horrific. I thought she could have been seriously hurt, or worse. If it wasn't for Michael coming to my aid, I don't know what the result would have been, Kay said. It was the most traumatic thing we have had to go through. I would have thought it would have been one of the happiest times of our lives, but it was terrible. Kay said Michael pressed the emergency buzzer three times, but no one responded until after a nearby caterer alerted medical staff. When someone finally came, Michael asked why it took so long and they told him the buzzer didn't work, Kay said. I was completely shocked. It is an emergency buzzer. This was an emergency. But the director of nursing at Monash Medical Centre, Kym Forrest, said in a statement to the Herald Sun: The buzzers were checked and both were working. The obstetrician and midwives were in fact alerted to the baby's arrival by the buzzer being sounded from Kay's room. Ms Forrest also denied the door had been kicked in. It is a dual lock which can be opened from both sides and this was the way access was achieved, she said. But Kay said the toilet cubicle, complete with broken door, looked like a murder scene. There was blood everywhere. I was screaming. It was just horrible, she said. The couple are seeking a formal apology, but Ms Forrest said they had not lodged a formal complaint with the hospital. We regret that Kay did not have the birth experience our midwives strive to provide to all the mums in their care, Ms Forrest said. We are as disappointed as Kay and Michael that the birth of their second child did not go according to plan, but babies have a mind of their own sometimes. Opposition health spokeswoman Helen Shardey called for the Government to investigate: It is just lucky the baby was not seriously injured in this fiasco. A spokeswoman for Health Minister Bronwyn Pike said it was an operational matter for the hospital to deal with. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre
Hi Sharon, It is very tempting to think of a fast labour as great, especially for someone like me who had two CS for FTP. I have learned, though, that many women who do have very rapid labours can find them VERY intense, and very frightening as they are s out of control. My imagination says it must be like being picked up by a tornado and then dumped unceremoniously. I can see her fear and agree that she probably had many expectations left unmet. I hope someone has the wisdom to sit down with the couple and debrief. Cheers Judy --- sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I wonderful way to have a baby no intervention or medicalization of a natural process. The woman wants to be congratulated for that. A very rare way to have a baby nowdays unless you have the baby at home. As a student I was privy to this type of birth only once and although it was fast it was great. Regards sharon _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki Macfarlane Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 6:16 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre You know what, I have a different take on this. If the newspaper article has reported accurately what the parents said (and I highly doubt they have, but for the sake of argument lets give themt he benefit of the doubt!), there are some serious failings of expectations here and little empathy going on from the medical staff. The mother was rushed to hospital by ambulance and arrived in the later stages of labor - this in itself appeared to be distressing for her as it appeared she was taken by surprise by the speed with which labor was progressing. So, now having arrived in advanced labor, she is not checked as she expects to be and does not appear to have a midwife in the room with her. Now that may be because she does not appear to be in strong labour, or that there is no midwife available. But from the mother's perspective, it is not what she expects. She feels out of control, in intense pain, and not receiving the level of hospital support she is expecting. She could have called for help and support or asked her husband to go and find a midwife. But her expectations were not being met. And it is a pretty reasonable expectation to have a midwife at the very least to reassure a mother who feels she is in strong labor, and realistically to be checking or staying by her side if she appears to be imminently birthing. At the point at which the baby is born, both parents describe themselves as frantic. This was not the experience they were hoping for. Yes, she did it without pain medication or any intervention. Yes, this is what many women aspire to. Yes, this is better for baby and mother healthwise in most circumstances. However, the mother felt unsupported, and the father felt panicky. And the hospital's response? We are as disappointed as Kay and Michael that the birth of their second child did not go according to plan, but babies have a mind of their own sometimes. Really? What a leap! To make the assumption that the midwives feel the same degree of disappointment as the parents. Yes, babies do sometimes come quicker than anticipated. What would have been nice is for this mum and dad to have been heard and had their sense of distress and lack of support acknowledged. Whether the midwives felt justified in their actions or not, the parents still felt the way they did. The mum was in the hospital for at least an hour and appeared to have no midwifery support during that time. I get that there may have been none available. But to dismiss the whole affair with a patronising comment about how the midwives are just as upset as the parents is hardly effective communication and certainly not displaying good listening skills towards the parents. Now of course, the whole newspaper article may be complete tosh and the parents/midwives may not have said anything that was attributed to them in the quotes. Always a shame that such stories are not seen as an opportunity to talk about how incredible our bodies are or how tragic it is that the health system the world over is failing women because of shortages of experienced midwives, or a multitude of other approaches that would be more beneficial towards women and babies. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 8:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 8:40 PM Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Folic acid article
And all our nutrients come from a pill Di - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Folic acid article Pregnant women urged to check folic acid dosage http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1832921.htm New Australian research has found that most pregnant women are not taking enough folic acid, leaving their unborn babies at risk of spinal cord defects. The study has found only 30 per cent of pregnant women are having adequate folic acid. Health authorities recommended women consume 400 micrograms of folic acid per day in the lead-up to conception and in the first three months of pregnancy. Professor Alaistair McLennan from the University of Adelaide says some brands of supplements do not contain the recommended dose. He says women need to be aware they may not be adequately protecting their baby. Australian food authorities are currently considering whether to add folate to bread and flour. __ NOD32 2001 (20070124) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre
The thought of birthing without help is terrifying for most people. They must have been so frightened. I agree that it is not satisfactory to have almost no care from a midwife and that most of us would agree that a woman in heavy labour should have one on one care and not be left alone. Of course as recognised, the story may not reflect the whole picture. Di - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre What I wonderful way to have a baby no intervention or medicalization of a natural process. The woman wants to be congratulated for that. A very rare way to have a baby nowdays unless you have the baby at home. As a student I was privy to this type of birth only once and although it was fast it was great. Regards sharon -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki Macfarlane Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 6:16 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mum Gives Birth In Toilet - Monash Medical Centre You know what, I have a different take on this. If the newspaper article has reported accurately what the parents said (and I highly doubt they have, but for the sake of argument lets give themt he benefit of the doubt!), there are some serious failings of expectations here and little empathy going on from the medical staff. The mother was rushed to hospital by ambulance and arrived in the later stages of labor - this in itself appeared to be distressing for her as it appeared she was taken by surprise by the speed with which labor was progressing. So, now having arrived in advanced labor, she is not checked as she expects to be and does not appear to have a midwife in the room with her. Now that may be because she does not appear to be in strong labour, or that there is no midwife available. But from the mother's perspective, it is not what she expects. She feels out of control, in intense pain, and not receiving the level of hospital support she is expecting. She could have called for help and support or asked her husband to go and find a midwife. But her expectations were not being met. And it is a pretty reasonable expectation to have a midwife at the very least to reassure a mother who feels she is in strong labor, and realistically to be checking or staying by her side if she appears to be imminently birthing. At the point at which the baby is born, both parents describe themselves as frantic. This was not the experience they were hoping for. Yes, she did it without pain medication or any intervention. Yes, this is what many women aspire to. Yes, this is better for baby and mother healthwise in most circumstances. However, the mother felt unsupported, and the father felt panicky. And the hospital's response? We are as disappointed as Kay and Michael that the birth of their second child did not go according to plan, but babies have a mind of their own sometimes. Really? What a leap! To make the assumption that the midwives feel the same degree of disappointment as the parents. Yes, babies do sometimes come quicker than anticipated. What would have been nice is for this mum and dad to have been heard and had their sense of distress and lack of support acknowledged. Whether the midwives felt justified in their actions or not, the parents still felt the way they did. The mum was in the hospital for at least an hour and appeared to have no midwifery support during that time. I get that there may have been none available. But to dismiss the whole affair with a patronising comment about how the midwives are just as upset as the parents is hardly effective communication and certainly not displaying good listening skills towards the parents. Now of course, the whole newspaper article may be complete tosh and the parents/midwives may not have said anything that was attributed to them in the quotes. Always a shame that such stories are not seen as an opportunity to talk about how incredible our bodies are or how tragic it is that the health system the world over is failing women because of shortages of experienced midwives, or a multitude of other approaches that would be more beneficial towards women and babies. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International __ NOD32 2001 (20070124) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 8:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Oh I agree totally, it seems so hard, so often back here in the East. Cath - Original Message - From: Michelle Windsor To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping There's no doubt that co-sleeping is the norm for indigenous women. In my experience the baby is either in bed with the mother, or on the breast. Often the aboriginal women would be puzzled as to why the other (ie white) babies were crying. It was a bit of an adjustment coming back to work in a mostly caucasian setting where distressed mothers and crying babies seem to be the norm (especially at night). As far as instinctive mothering goes, I think we can learn alot from the indigenous women. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Helen and Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 24 January, 2007 6:36:19 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping This story reminds me of my time working in Gove in the Northern Territory. The aboriginal women on the ward would co-sleep from day 1 and also leave their babies in their beds when they went outside to escape the airconditioning. You had to be VERY CAREFUL before you went ripping the sheets off the bed to make it. I was always afraid a baby would end up in the linen skip one day Helen - Original Message - From: Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi Raelene, We have a policy that allows co-sleeping.We had more concerns about babies falling out of bed(did actually happen) rather than them being smothered by mums so our policy just makes sure the bed rail is up on which ever side of mum the baby is sleeping with a pillow against the bed rail so bub doesnt slip through.We regularly have bubs in bed with mums .Works well for both mums and bubs. All the best with getting a working policy Lyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/01/2007 1:54 pm Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 2000 (20070123) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Belinda, Are you able to elaborate on how you were shown to sleep. We often encourage cosleeping but I have never heard of a particular method of laying. Megan (cosleeper with 3 kids and one very squished husband) - Original Message - From: Belinda Pound [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Just general thoughts...not directed personally at you Raelene... A Few years ago when I had my daughter at mater mothers in Brisbane, some of the midwives that cared for us actually encouraged my daughter sleep beside me. We were having breastfeeding challenges (to say the least) and were encouraged that the skin to skin/smell close contact etc would be of benefit with supply/attachment/bonding etc. We co slept on a double bed; and I was shown how to place my arm so that if I did try to roll over...I couldn't thus not rolling onto my baby. I have since had my second child and we often co sleep. I hate the thought of him being over there in his crib by himself..I want him to hear my breathing/heartbeat and have my body warmth. It disturbs me how after carrying your baby for nine month in utero that establishments find it necessary to separate mother and baby and formulate policies in view of ??litigation should a baby be smothered by the mother whilst co sleeping. Just for interest sake, does anyone know if 'mothers instinct' plays a part in her not rolling on/smothering her babe when co sleeping? Cheers Belinda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George, Raelene Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi everyone, I need some help! I'm trying to formulate a policy regarding co-sleeping and want to offer alternative sleeping arrangements for mothers and babies whilst in hospital. Does anyone know of a special cot that has been developed that allows the baby to sleep with mum but in a separate cot that is attached to the main bed. I've seen pictures of babies using a biliblanket in a cot attached to the bed in this way, but can't find any information. Can you help. Regards Raelene George Maternity Ward Kalgoorlie Hospital -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Lyle, If you go back through the archives of ozmid, I think there was a big discussion on this about 4+ yrs ago or so. Their was an excellent article written by a midwife in ?Qld about the effects of Hep B post birth and it's effect on establishing BF. Can't remember her name, but will try and find it. And I remember this so well because I had my 2nd baby immunized with Hep B at Day 2 (I was leaving the hosp) but I don't know whether it was co-incidence or not, but that baby and I struggled and eventually ceased BF after several months as it was taking a toll on both of us. With the 3rd baby 20 months later I refused Hep B at birth, due to this article I had read on the list (dr raised an eyebrow, but said nothing!) and had it at the 8 week visit instead. Vastly better BF experience. Cheryl From: Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:55:36 +1100 Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dhol%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_Txt_Link_Holiday_Oct06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
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RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Hi, Ewmail or speak to Kathy Scarborough from Vaccination Information South Aus (VISA), she is up to date on all things Hep B. She does tour occaisionally, worth a listen. http://www.visainfo.org.au/ Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Burgoyne Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 1:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie
Donna, where are you currently, can you email me off the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cath - Original Message - From: Donna Towers To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie Hear, hear Suzi! I would have to agree with you. After two years working with women all around this amazing country of ours, I still say that my eight years in Kalgoorlie taught me the most. Hi Raelene and team. Good Luck with the co-sleeping issue. I have found that Australia wide many policies are forcing babies out of their mothers beds! Very frustrating! Donna Towers
Re: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Our unit gives it at the same time as the neonatal screen for that very reason. Cheers Judy --- Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
