[ozmidwifery] rh neg discussion

2005-08-22 Thread Janet Ireland



DISCUSSION PLEASE 
if a mother is rh neg and babe rh pos kliehauer neg 
and weak anti d present passive from last anti natal ante D does a mother still 
have to have anti D JAN


[ozmidwifery] contact for maggie

2005-08-04 Thread Janet Ireland



please forward contact for maggie L T CHEERS JAN 



Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: bathing babies

2005-07-10 Thread Janet Ireland
opps was repling to acceta apoligies jan
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifairy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: bathing babies


 um, did I miss something?
 Janet are you replying about the placenta accreta? or the timing of the
 1st bath?
 Im confused!
 Can you please include more detail on yr posts so I know what you are
 talking about?
 cheers
 Jennifairy

 Janet Ireland wrote:

 the woman had 2 bouts of infection both treated with abs iv she is now
 pregnant and looking forward to no complications jan
 - Original Message - 
 From: sally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:56 PM
 Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: bathing babies
 
 
 
 
 Pardon my ignorance, but what would be the risk of infection?
 I think as long as the babe's temp is ok and it hasn't been compromised
in
 any way it doesn't really matter. As long as the parents are happy. I
 certainly wouldn't be bathing the baby if the parents were unable to
 participate, at any stage after the birth.
 A bath is a bath, I don't think we need guidelines or a rationale,
surely?
 ( I seem to remember posts about this subject earlier in the year, am I
 right?)
 
 Sally
 - Original Message -
 From: Nicole Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ozmid ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:50 PM
 
 
 
 
 Dear fellow list members,
 
 What is your practice regarding the timing of the first bath, in a
 
 
 hospital
 
 
 setting? One of my colleagues is re-examining our current practice of
 delaying the first bath until approx 24hrs, and after babe's temp is
 confirmed to be normal. We are keen to know the rationale for other
 midwives' practice, including it's impact on the infant's temperature
 
 
 and
 
 
 risk of infection.
 
 Your input would be most appreciated.
 
 Nicole Carver.
 
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:placenta accreta

2005-07-09 Thread Janet Ireland
not till late and once engorment gone very limited and she tried and tried
no one told her why her lactation was tardy and unsucessful and she was so
relieved when i explained to her today jan
- Original Message - 
From: Joy Cocks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:placenta accreta


 Re the placenta accreta which was left to come out on it's own. I'm
 wondering what the effect on lactation was?  Did this woman's milk come
in
 do you know, Jan?
 Cheers,
 Joy

 Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC
 BRIGHT Vic 3741
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: bathing babies

2005-07-09 Thread Janet Ireland
the woman had 2 bouts of infection both treated with abs iv she is now
pregnant and looking forward to no complications jan
- Original Message - 
From: sally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: bathing babies


 Pardon my ignorance, but what would be the risk of infection?
 I think as long as the babe's temp is ok and it hasn't been compromised in
 any way it doesn't really matter. As long as the parents are happy. I
 certainly wouldn't be bathing the baby if the parents were unable to
 participate, at any stage after the birth.
 A bath is a bath, I don't think we need guidelines or a rationale, surely?
 ( I seem to remember posts about this subject earlier in the year, am I
 right?)

 Sally
 - Original Message -
 From: Nicole Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ozmid ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:50 PM


  Dear fellow list members,
 
  What is your practice regarding the timing of the first bath, in a
 hospital
  setting? One of my colleagues is re-examining our current practice of
  delaying the first bath until approx 24hrs, and after babe's temp is
  confirmed to be normal. We are keen to know the rationale for other
  midwives' practice, including it's impact on the infant's temperature
and
  risk of infection.
 
  Your input would be most appreciated.
 
  Nicole Carver.
 
 
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[ozmidwifery] accreta

2005-07-08 Thread Janet Ireland



Love when i have never heard of this 
has anyone hadexperience with accreta where 
the placenta is left to come away itself ie in this case 3 mths later , jan 



Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal breech birth

2005-04-24 Thread Janet Ireland



and seek u out they do 
one little girl went to great lengths her parents 
planned a homebirth the universe greated enormous challenges the mums bp went up 
protein appeared in the urine the baby turned and remained breech a hospital 
birth was planned 
at 40 weeks mums bloods were still normal and bp 
high and protien high we escaped induction the family went on a picnic the dad 
entered a competetion racing in a bathtub down the banks of the river 

he broke his leg 
2 days later labour started 
the support persons ie drivers did not answer 
phone
mw went to family to drive to hospital arrived 30 
before footling breech birth 
alls happy 
jan 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jan 
  Robinson 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:33 
AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal breech 
  birth
  You will KimOne day a little breech baby will seek you out 
  and you'll be fine supporting it's mother.Make sure you all support 
  this student and buy her a copy of Maggie Banks book Breech Birth Woman-Wise 
  so she knows there is another way.JanJan 
  Robinson Independent Midwife PractitionerNational Coordinator Australian 
  Society of Independent Midwives8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 
  Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.auOn 24 
  Apr, 2005, at 16:19, Kim Stead wrote:
  Hi againNot 
sure what happened in theatre as I only heard about it afterwards but it 
sounded pretty straight forward after the initialpanic and getting to 
theatre before mum birthed her baby herself. What was really 
disappointing is the two people involved - a clinical nurse educator and 
student midwife.I don'tblame the student at all but 
think someone supposedly experienced enoughto be in a teaching role, 
should have known better and acted accordingly.. Afterwards the 
student was very overwhelmed and the nurse educator repeatedly kept saying, 
thank god we got her to theatre and saved her!!! I wascompletely 
speechless about the whole event. What message does this student take 
away from this situation and how will this affect her future midwifery 
practice???I've 
never been fortunate enough to be present at a breech birth butknowing 
the mechanisms and rules of hands off etc, think that wewould all be 
capableof supporting mum to birth this baby herself. There is 
always senior staff on hand but perhaps that is where the problem 
lays?Just thinking out loud.I 
prey that I get to see this and vaginal twin birth before I retire.Kim---Original 
Message---From: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Date: 
04/24/05 12:54:07
  To: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Subject: 
Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES
  yes 
this was very much a planned breech birth. we have a breech-very keen 
obstetrician and there have been 4 at that hospital this week including 2 
breech twins. (this one was actually caught by the MW with him in the room)the 
mum's attitude too, was such a huge part of it i think. she just thought 
'why wouldnt i be able to birth her??' so she birthed her on the birth stool 
with no troubles :)what 
happened once in theatre kim? 
Kim 
Stead [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:Thatsounds 
wonderful Emily. I 'assume' is was a known/planned breech 
birth??The last one at our hospital was an undiagnosed multi who 
wasfully, raced to theatre in order to 'save'mum and 
babe!! Arhh!! It is certainly a dying art.Kiwi 
Kim---Original 
Message---From: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Date: 
04/24/05 11:42:34
  To: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Subject: 
Re: [ozmidwifery] ENDING GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MIDWIVES
  yepo 
mine is sent off too Jan.BTW, 
this morning at 5am i was at a lovely vaginal breech birth and a new little 
black haired girl came in to the world on the night of the full moon. this 
was the first breech baby i had seen born - except for videos! - and i was 
amazed how quick it all was. about 3 hrs 1st stage and 18 mins of pushing. 
and an 8 pound 5 girl.perfect!Justine 
Caines 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:Hi 
Nicole and allI believe I 
wrote this letter some time ago. I am unsure where it has resurfaced 
from!!Tony Abbott 
embarrassed? Who cares.The update on the 
Medicare safety-net is.It 
was purely from Obstetricians hiking their fees (70% in 12 months!!) that 
blew the safety net out. So what does the responsible Howard 
Government do?Doe they 
rope in Obstetricians gross increase? NoThey punish the 
poorest Australians and increase the safety net from $300 to $500.Remember this 70% 
increase only represents care for 30% of Australian women (as thats how 
many private Obs care for).Rural women pay 
as 

[ozmidwifery] Re:

2005-04-20 Thread Janet Ireland





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  sharon 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:40 
  PM
  
  hi just caught the program thought it was great. 
  wonderful work in and ideal world it would be great for women to have the 
  option of home birth covered by our medicare system. IF ONLY. congratulations 
  for being so involved.


Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)

2005-03-29 Thread Janet Ireland
devine whats on friday? been bed ridden with back should be right by then
love jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)


 Hi everyone,

 I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few
weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge
combined it's fantastic and inspirational!

 I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year
bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course
and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do
this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!!  I have four children who
keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who
have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!)

 So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i
observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear
of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would
be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding
between mother and baby.

 Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling
with the politically correct stuff).

 I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at
employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that
hospital?

 Thanks for you time and help in advance.

 ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success
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[ozmidwifery] returned

2005-03-18 Thread Janet Ireland



hi i have returned to line after 6 
mths
asking for help

1 baby with short tongue no tongue tie indeed 
no frenulum any one seen before
healthy interestested attaches tongue folds 
back cant tranf milk 

2mws for homebirth wodonga wcheproof 
swanhill

3 midwife in wa for home/hosp birth also natural 
childbirth advocates who are also obstettricians Mullaloo 6027. 
More well-known suburbs that Mullaloo is near are "Joondalup

these enquires came from former clients 

cheers jan
thankyou 


Re: [ozmidwifery] returned

2005-03-18 Thread Janet Ireland



thanks sally i have forwarded to client 
jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sally Westbury 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:08 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] returned
  
  
  Hi 
  Jan,
  
  For the WA 
  woman. Community Midwifery 
  WA would be her best contact. If she wants to have a homebirth with a midwife 
  she can apply for our government funded program. http://www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au 
  For lots of information one of our resource centres is in Leederville. There 
  is a library of books and videos to borrow and a midwife to speak with. The 
  woman can just phone the resource centre to speak with a midwife 
  tooMidwifery 
   Natural Childbirth 
  Centre336 Oxford 
  StreetLeederville 
  WA 
  6007Tuesday  Thursday 
  10 
  - 2 pmPhone 9242 
  3330
  
  
  
  Sally 
  Westbury
  Homebirth 
  Midwife
  
  "It 
  takes courage to remain a true advocate for women, challenging authority and 
  sacrificing social and professional acceptance. It takes courage for a woman 
  to choose a caregiver who will truly advocate for and empower 
  her." -Judy Slome Cohain
  


Re: Let's hear from you!

2001-09-27 Thread Janet Ireland

Dear all I gues I havn't contributed becuse Ifeel low re this PI insurance
and the global stae of affairs I have cancelled my dreamed of trip to France
for midwifery conference [at great $ loss ] not to mention headspace stuff.
I joust don't want to leave my family [6 children ]at this uncertain time .
Since lossing my insurance although I have never been notified or had a
reply from ANF to multilple queries I have given my clients a disclaimer to
fill in and each time I do that I feel like midwifrey care is some how
dangerous chatting about no fault damage etc makes me sick ie every day .
I have attended 6 births this month 3 homebirths and 3 care at home and then
transfer to hosp for birth[3 pgs each one at different hosps for about 3-4
hrs prior to birth  all have gone very well but a bit of relief creeps over
me as I drive home.In a nutshell I am anxious and would be very happy to
hear a date for confirmation of insurence.
Iwill pick up my socks and contribute twoot wit lol jan

- Original Message -
From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: Let's hear from you!


 Hi Everyone,

 The list has been very quiet recently and various requests for info have
 not generated much response. This could be because everyone is just too
 busy to get involved (which is a pity because we need to support each
other
 as we much as possible),  or it could be because people are replying
 privately. The only way this list works is when we share our ideas - could
 you please avoid sending messages privately in response to requests made
to
 the list? Also, there is no need to cc the list when sending a private
 reply - the message will turn up anyway on the list and the intended
 recipient can read it there. If people have to pay for downloads, the
extra
 messages can cost money

 Sadie, I don't know how the Rhonda wants you to look at this message got
 onto the list, but I hope everyone realised that this is just the kind of
 message that contains a virus or worm. Delete all those messages
 immediately and don't look at the suggested site!

 Cheers

 Andrea

 -
 Andrea Robertson
 Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education

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Re: BP duriong pregnancy

2001-09-27 Thread Janet Ireland

I take the reading when I can no longer hear sound .jan
- Original Message -
From: Julia Monaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: BP duriong pregnancy


 Can anyone help me with a question about estimating BPs? Should an
 estimation of the diastolic be made using the IV or V Korotkov sound?
Enkin
 et al recommend using V and Sweet and Tiran recommend using IV. What do
you
 use or recommend in your practice? Thanks

 Julia M

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bakup mw

2001-09-12 Thread Janet Ireland



wanted mw in leongatha meenyan area for homebirth 
back up between 15-10-01-10-11- edd 6-11mg. lol jan SC if yor reading this give 
me a ring 


stress

2001-09-07 Thread Janet Ireland



I heard that the book launch was a fabulous night I 
was at a birth but it wasn't the same 

The room is warm the fire crackling the woman wide 
eyed and almost luminous in the half light .Her man is supporting her as she 
births her baby. She cries out in her native tongue and the midwife kneels at 
her feet; the baby is born the placenta arrives the family rest and eat 

This IS A MIRICLE WITTNESSED BY THE MIDWIVES MANY 
TIMES BUT SOMETHING IS CLOUDING THE JOY.

the midwives embrace and say I am so glad every 
thing went well.
is this fear or stress whatever it takes away from 
at least my practise.
Thankyou to all persons working for women' chioces 
in childbirth .jan ireland


public meeting

2001-09-07 Thread Janet Ireland



any one in Healeville area who would like to attend 
a meeting re midwifrey campaign please respond with contact and I will pass it 
on .
Lets go for it and activate everyone we can think 
of all my free time this weekend is dedicated to activating families to increase 
the magnitude of midwifrey campign ol jan


listen in

2001-09-04 Thread Janet Ireland



3LO 774 re MIDWIVES ETC Jan 



Re: Bipolar realities long

2001-08-19 Thread Janet Ireland

Dear Joy and list
What did u do in the hospital? was there anything different than at home was
the family happier in hospital or was the midwife safer This is the common
scenario go to hospital but what forhydration? syntocinon? 2nd opinion
?[why not get it from a mw or p/p from back up hospital?]
it is soo frustrating was the woman activly pushing ?
I READ A BIRTH PLAN RECENTLY FROM A PLANNED HOME BIRTH WERE THE REASONS FOR
GOING TO HOSP WERE CLEARLY listed . They didn't include slow progress but
did include if the family/midwife felt it was better even though no
intervention was nec is this defensive midwifery?
Recently during a labour I thought to myself this women has to birth at home
because we can't front up now after all this time do we trans to aviod doing
it with egg [TIME NOT PROBLEMS] on our faces] do we like to be well thought
of because we miss the collegship of our cloth members?all these questions
arise when your at home with no problems except,
 slow  worst of all is it fear and for me i think it is.
I have been with 3 pg this week they all took days to get to 4cms and then
delivered after a few hard wondrful hrs.
The first woman was a planned hosp birth and 42 weeks and I advised her to
see her ob she did had ctg and u/s and was augmented at 4cm  as the AFI was
dangerously low out of all 3 her labour was most difficult and I regret my
advise All three women had nvds and are all happy
My ADVISE IS YOUR DAMMED IF U DO AND DAMMED IF U DON'T
But what's new keep up the good work. LOL JAN

 hrs

- Original Message -
From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Bipolar realities


 Dear Carolyn
 There were a couple of reasons why I was not going to read your message.
  It came as a text attachment, and I am very wary of attachments; and
 because you said it was long.  But because *you* wrote it I felt compelled
 to open and read.  I'm glad I did. Thankyou.

 In my practice in the past week there has also been an event which has
made
 me reflect seriously about streams of thinking.  I have been challenged by
 the boundaries of normalcy - particularly time.  The woman was planning
 homebirth; and experienced a slow and frustrating (first) labour that
 seemed to be going nowhere.  Having tried all the physical and mental
 empowerment strategies I know, I suggested to both mother and father that
 they close their eyes and rest a while, in preparation for transfer to
 hospital.  Stretched out in the bathtub, with soft winter light filtering
 through the closed louvres, with noone else around, and with me sitting on
 the floor with my back up against the bathroom wall, the woman's labour
 took on new energy and in a very short time the unmistakable sounds of
 pushing were heard.  This was about 2pm.
 Four hours later, once again with infrequent and quite mild contractions,
 we agreed that hospital was the best place to be.  There was a wild storm
 outside.  I would have done anything to stay at home!  The woman was not
 distressed by labour - in fact she appeared tired but totally unstressed
as
 we stood at the desk in the birth unit, and introduced ourselves.
 In hospital, the doctor, a woman-friendly female GP with experience in
 homebirth, came into our partnership with new energy and confidence.  Her
 words babies are meant to be pushed, not pulled, were beautiful.
 It was about 10.30 pm, when the woman gave birth to a very healthy boy.
  More than 8 hours after I suspected full dilatation!

 Birth challenges us from many different perspectives.  I want to be able
to
 be 'with woman' whether it's at home or hospital, whether I am taking a
 leading role, as the midwife responsible for the birth, or in a little
team
 of strangers that have been allocated to work in that room.  In the
 situation I have described, I had become puzzled and concerned by the lack
 of activity.  Did I slow it all down even further by taking my client out
 through that storm?  Could I have confidently waited for a couple more
 hours? What then? ... (I have many unanswered questions.)

 If anyone is interested in further reading on twin births, there is a
 wonderful account by Celia Adams and Tim Jacka - Three births in the
 Birth Story section of my website. www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm

 Joy Johnston

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Re: Twin policies.LONG

2001-08-18 Thread Janet Ireland

There is 1 option for natural childbirth of twins and that is informed
decision making partnership of parents I have cared for such parents with
great outcomes so far not at home but in private and public hospitals with
all sorts of birth plans that were worked and worked from 20 weeks on and
respectfully followed.Policies and proceedures put on hold Drs and midwives
who felt they would not be a positive influence were asked to stay away and
those who felt they could support parents invited to attend. The second twin
has taken from 2 mins to 3 hrs none have been, 'man handled  iv bungs have
always been in sometimes synto has been used after an agreed time varies 30
mins -2hrs all presentationsof 2nd twin have been checked if time allows. S
OME epidural catheters are in [non medicated]most women have agreed to cord
cutting and active management of 3rd stage .
 One memorial birth was MMC were the registar, resus cots all equip[just in
case was out side room] and myself and staff midwife supported the space for
a beautiful spont twin birth the 2nd being born 40 min after the first the
registar was so supportive that when the mw thought the 2nd twin was breech
he put up synto as arranged did a ve smiled broadly said head first and left
, the 3rd stage took an hr the babies went home from LW very happy parents
well supported by the hospital. the secret to sucess the parents met with
staff many times and negotiated a birth plan. loljan
- Original Message -
From: Toni Cannard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Twin policies.


 Hi everyone!

 I have just been told that at one of our Brisbane private hospitals they
 have a strict policy stating they allow only 10 mins between the birth of
 the first and second twin.

 I'm wondering how many other maternity units have a policy such as this?

 Love,
 Toni

 PS Good luck Robin - remember speak the truth and fear no man (or
woman) -
 a favourite quote of mine from Spiritual Midwifery.


 From: Rhonda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Moon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Twin policies.
 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:22:36 +1000
 
 Re: Twin policies.Robin,
 
 Good Luck!
 
 You are not only standing up for what you believe is right but for the
many
 women who will surely suffer without your strength to protect them.
 Best wishes to you and know that whatever the outcome you have done what
is
 right.
 You obviously have him worried as if his only come back is to attack you
 personally then he is not being very professional.  Try to point that
fact
 out -  if he had enough solid evidence then he would welcome challenge
and
 defend it with facts.
 
 Rhonda.
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Robin Moon
To: Jan Robinson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Twin policies.
 
 
Thank you Jan, for that input.
 
Unfortunately,  he is still pushing for it to be made policy. I pity
the
 poor women of the North Shore when he becomes a VMO next year.
 
Can I just clarify that this sentence; -
 
'No offsetting advantages in terms of decreased fetal or neonatal
 morbidity or mortality were found.
 
implies that whether the 2nd twin was delivered by emergency c/section
 or by podalic version etc, there was no difference in the(neonatal)
 outcome?( I dont have my hands on this book until Monday, which is when I
 am mediating on the issue) This of course is the crux of his argument,
that
 the 2nd twin is always in peril and intervention must be instigated ahead
 of time to offset it. *sigh*. I wonder where the word 'skill' comes in?
 
Sorry to keep on about this, but I feel so strongly for the women on
 this issue.His indignant letter of complaint resulting from me
challenging
 his actions contained so much slander about me that I feel it necessary
to
 bring legal representation with me as support for mediation.  I just want
 to be sure of my facts before I face him.
 
Robin
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jan Robinson
  To: Robin Moon
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Twin policies.
 
 
 
 
  Dear Robin
 
 
  There are no teaching hospitals in Sydney that have such a policy
...
  Women with multiple pregnancies and no obvious complications should
be
 able to formulate birth plans which request minimal intervention ...
(that
 does not include a trip to theatre for delivery!)
  Most dizygotic twins births are perfectly staightforward as long as
 the woman remains upright and is able to assist.
 
 
 
 
  From 3rd Ed Guide to effective care in pregnancy and childbirth ...
 p.146
 
 
  Virtually no data from controlled trails are available to help
 determine the choice between vaginal birth and cesarean section for women
 with multiple pregnancy. A single trial has assessed the effect of
cesarean
 section for delivery when 

Re: Birth Matters Volune 5.3

2001-08-13 Thread Janet Ireland

Looking for a homebirth midwife in Cairns looking for a homebirth friendly
doctor in Cairns thankyou in anticipation jan
- Original Message -
From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Gail Pizzi (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:28 PM
Subject: Birth Matters Volune 5.3


 The next issue of Birth Matters, the journal of the Maternity Coalition,
 has gone to the printer, and I would like to encourage everyone to
consider
 subscribing at this time when we all need, so much, to pull together.  The
 future of childbirth in Australia is at a critical point, and I believe we
 can work together strategically to bring in the needed changes.

 This issue focuses on consumers, and the title on the front cover is:
 Closing the gap: on women's choice, control, continuity of carer and
 midwives' ability to practice

 It's a bumper issue. The articles include:
 Consumer power, by Christine and Damien Toppi
 Private Health Insurance Funds - Report by Emma Fleay
 Consumer participation - who controls what you get? By Karen Lane
 Trusting enough to be out of control, by Jenny Parratt
 On being a mother - four accounts by women
 Midwives and women: a with-woman relationship? By Fiona Brooks and Helen
 Lomax
 The new midwife, by the B Mid student collective
 Bachelor of Midwifery in Victoria, by Diane Cutts
 My experience as a direct entry midwifery student, by Carole Bastian
 A time of crisis - the gap is closing  - editorial
 Press releases and reports on the PI crisis, by various organisations and
 individuals
 ACT branch report
 MIPP column
 Letters, and lots more.

 www.maternitycoalition.org.au
 You may join/renew membership by sending your contact details with $30 to
 The secretary, Maternity Coalition
 PO Box 73
 Brunswick South Vic 3055

 Group subscription (4 copies of each issue to one address) $100
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not from me

2001-08-07 Thread Janet Ireland



Its the middle of the night and i've turned on to 
look up aclinical problem [potters syndrome]that is keeping me awake and this 
list tells me Ihave sent just now 4 e-mails 1 from spiritual midwifery another 
aabout primal theraphy and one about starting up a home business also an e-mail 
keeps reappearing that Isent days ago re guthrie what's going on . 

Also there are replies about the guthrie with 
attachments do not open as i am supicious Iam just going to update my virus 
check any ideas about whats happening lol jan


Re: Guthrie's at the breast

2001-08-06 Thread Janet Ireland
Title: Re: Guthrie's at the breast



As with most things its important to adapt to 
situation. No rules rather  chioces, suggestions and informed decisions however 
the practitioner obviously has preferences. I admit I usually end up putting the 
little foot in a bowl of hot water and thenthe mother attaches the 
baby and I prick its heel. wait for it to resettle then get the sample . of 
interest I don't collect samples till babe has full breastmilk stool or I have 
waited till cord or with [ lotus birth placenta] has seperated As to aspirating 
what a silly idea who holds a baby at the breast the baby attaches or comes off. 
Ihave had one poor sample that the RCHsaid had coffee spilt on it didn't 
happen before the post! lol jan  

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jackie Mawson 
  To: Ozmidwifery List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:28 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Guthrie's at the 
breast
  
  Just wondering if anybody out 
there is aware of any information on performing guthries on the babies 
whilst they are at the breast.It is the best way, as far as Mother and child are 
  concerned. As far as I know, babies are very unlikely to aspirate when 
  they are newborn. It is only when they get older and start talking that 
  aspiration becomes more of a problem  Chimpanzees, gorillas, etc, never 
  choke (even as infants) but they also never talk. The tendency for humans to 
  choke has something to do with the ability we have to talk (larger larynx?) 
  and we have a protective mechanism when very small to help avoid this 
  happening  thats why small children have tiny, high pitched voices, that 
  develop as they grow.Anyway, I dont think aspiration is an issue. And 
  doing Guthrie's while breastfeeding is just so much less traumatic for mother 
  and baby (I know, I insisted on it for my 3rd child  the other 2 I didnt 
  know about it).Birthing Beautifully,Jackie Mawson.Convenor 
  of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc.Visit our Website at: 
  http://www.birthrites.orgEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: 61 08 9418 
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  Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service.Email 
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listen in now

2001-07-25 Thread Janet Ireland



now 730-830 on 3lo which 77.4 ring in talk back on 
home birth lol jan


Well done

2001-07-25 Thread Janet Ireland



Alana and Joy you did a great job and as much as u 
had the oppurtunity spoke up for midwives and families thankyou from one midwife 
jan 


PIH -thanks

2001-07-10 Thread Janet Ireland



dear listers,
Some time ago I recieved enormous help from 
,"listers" re a client [pg] with PIH with significant proteinuria a SGA baby in 
a breech position . Monitoring of her pathology and baby became routine and 
yesterday she was admitted under an obstet for an ECV at 40 weeks she had tried 
everything excercises acupuncture herbs etc . The ECV failed and the 
bottom remained mobile over brim estimated weight at 39 weeks on u/s 4lb 11oz 
.Her BP remained elevated but stable and her proteinuria increased all maternal  
blood tests and  bio-physical profiles  on baby remained wonderful, the parents 
were disappioted as they wanted a home birth but private hospital 
arrangments were made with some labour care at home prior to transfer.  

Last night her husband rang me  at 0330 hrs to say 
she was in established labour with membranes ruptured, clear liquor first 
contraction at 0245 I arrived at 0430 baby was born at 0458 lotus breech birth, 
the baby is 5lb and has b/f non stop. Agars 7and 9 .We rang the hospital to say 
the baby was born.and we were staying home .BP after del still up [but not as 
much as it has been] but I expect it to be down when I visit this 
afternoon.
WHAT A JOURNEY THIS HAS BEEN and thanks for all 
your help lol jan