RE: [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK
Hi Jan and All, Just want to wish everyone involved in keeping the homebirth movement alive all the best for national homebirth awareness week. Last week we had a family evening watching the homebirth video of my second son and I was able to relive the amazing memories of that experience. Peace, calm, no fear, no being told what to do such a lack of fear which seems to permeate so much of birthing elsewhere today. My 7 year old son, the one who was being born in the video, wanted to know why he wasnt wearing any clothes when he was born and we had a big laugh about trying to get a nappy inside the womb. To my boys its normal and I think theyre quite proud to be the only boys at school who were born at home. Youre doing an amazing job and its something worth persevering and fighting for. One day gentle birth will predominate and the struggles of this current time will have been worth all the work. Keep up your amazing work, homebirthing women and men! Love from Karen in Townsville From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 9:42 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK To all ASIM members and any midwives who have been involved in home births Call your clients this week and tell them how much you value their support Pop in with a cake to see some house-bound mother with little children Keep the good-will going Have a wonderful week spreading the good word about home births The more you give - the more you'll get Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
[ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
Dear List, Im a birth educator and prenatal yoga teacher in Townsville. I hope these questions are appropriate for this list and would appreciate information from you: Induction. Andreas Preparing for Birth:Mothers book and the wall poster on cascade of intervention states that induction increases the risks of further intervention and ultimately caesarean, and thats what Ive always taught in my Active Birth classes. However, when challenged for statistics by a client in a recent workshop, I looked up Enkin, Kierse etc. who stated that induction does not increase the risk of caesareans, recommending that induction is recommended soon after a women passes her EDD. Can anyone clear this up for me? Third stage of labour. I was under the belief that if active management of third stage was chosen, the cord had to be clamped and cut quickly to avoid an over-transfusion of blood from the placenta into the baby. However, an OB recently told a client of mine that even if she had a Synto injection, the cord could be left until it stopped pulsing. Ive checked Myles textbook for midwives but its not clear on this. I appreciate your support. Best wishes, Karen Shlegeris in Townsville
RE: [ozmidwifery] another induction
I can imagine this would create problems due to logistics, because our OBs are so busy already. One yoga student of mine planned her active birth/VBAC with her OB extensively, then when she went a few days past due date he told her that he was sure she'd go into labour the following weekend when he wasn't on call. He told her that he didn't believe the on-call OB would support her desire for an active birth and that she'd be likely to end up with another caesarean, so she was convinced to have an induction by ARM and Synto (as her cervix was already soft). Luckily, all went well - she had a short labour and gave birth to her baby vaginally. She's very happy with the result and feels quite empowered. But what a sorry situation that is!! Karen in Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 7:05 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] another induction What is wrong with the Ob asking the covering ob to see all his women for one visit? Then the woman would have at least met the doctor who might be on when hers is away. In W.A. Homebirth midwives usually have a backup midwife who both covers her but also attends as second midwife at the birth. MM Honey wrote: what about the Private OB's who have every second weekend off (or only work every one in 3 weekends) and their backup OB covers, you go into labour on the weekend turn up and here is an OB you have never met before. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
Hi, During my second labour at home I said ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow all the way through each contraction, as if to let everyone know that I was feeling something very strong, which I don't describe as pain, and boy it helped just to verbalise it. No-one even seemed to notice, in fact it probably indicated to the midwife what was happening and how far along I was. I encourage the women in my classes to find a noise and go with it! We even practice roaring and moaning out loud - it makes them all laugh and really lifts their spirits. Hope the hospital midwives support them in their noise on the day! Best wishes, Karen in Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meaghan Moon Sent: Monday, 15 August 2005 2:38 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth I am very late in on this thread and haven't read all of the e-mails on the topic. I like mooing. In Canada, I talk to mums about bellowing like a moose. Roaring is also good. Had a mum recently who was a real roarer, and in fact explained to her 5 year old that she was having a good time roaring just like a lion, so it was all O.K. He seemed to be reassured by this, even though we had heard him fall out of bed when he was woken by her belly roars! Meaghan At 10:21 PM 8/13/05, you wrote: Dear Andrea and Miriam I love your emails and am mooing myself happily Again it shows the wonderfull instintcs women have I have not been with women who have mooed but from my time with homebirth midwives and then clients and also in my singing for non singers course I learnt that deep noises rather than high pitch ones (screams0 are the ones to encourage as they send the energy down into your abdomen and then to the uterus and baby whereas the high pitched looses energy out of the body through the head Mooing is a low pitch noise!! Where I did my mid in the UK the maternity unit was out the back of the hospital and overlooked pastures with cows and I remember saying to the women we humans need to reconnenct with nature to nurture and now birth our young!! Denise Hynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth Sorry for the late input on this, have been cruising the South Pacific with my family, but am catching up on many emails now...don't feel too sorry for me! Ah Miriam, you have such a way with words! I too was beckoned as a student midwife only a few years ago to join in and feel the love with a woman who could only be described as mooing, and it was a very connecting experience for us both. It also meant that the supervising midwife, who was obviously not at all comfortable with birthing noises (funny that, how she was very comfortable with cleaning noises, people barging in to look at charts noises...) kept her distance and just let 'us'go for it! I myself moaned and groaned and then growled my way through 18 hours of labour first time around, and there are shadows of the school kids walking past the bathroom window on the video just before Sam is born! I still wonder why no-one knocked on the front door to see what was going on in there! A friend who has recently had her first homebirth after several hospital births has commented on how she thought she was a quiet birther, but then after birthing at home, realized that she did indeed feel restricted in the hospital, and that she now thinks that she was aware of feeling like her midwives would judge her if she was too vocal in the hospital. Interesting stuff. Tania x -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.