Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

Thanks to Miriam, Julie and Anne for your replies to my query re-evening
primrose oil.

Cheers, Joanne.

- Original Message - 
From: "Julie Garratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ozmidwifery" 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil


> Hi Mim and Joanne,
> I as Mim says I've seen evening primrose oil used to ripen the cx of post
> date women in the Philippines 40+1-2 weeks. What we did was pierce a hole
in
> the gel capsule (one) and squirt the contence around high in the vagina.
> Either these overdue women would have gone into labour anyway, it was
> placebic/psychological or just another excuse to stir things up a bit I
cant
> be sure of unless someone does the research. Seemed to work, no side that
I
> saw. Sorry I cant be more specific, I have been meaning to look this up
but
> haven't had the reason or opportunity since I've been back. I read the
list
> every day and have done for several years now, I find this midwifery
> collective consciousness invaluable:) Look forward to what you uncover.
> Julie (3rd year BMid fusa)
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Miriam Hannay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
>
>
> >
> > --- Hi Joanne, I have no experience with this method
> > but spoke some months ago to a fellow Bmid student who
> > came across it while on a clinical placement at a free
> > standing birth centre in the Phillipines.
> >
> > Apparently the capsule is pierced then inserted into
> > the vagina where the contents are squirted around the
> > cervix, i'm not aure of dose etc but the student
> > (Julie) is aporadically onlist I think so i'll text
> > her and ask her to post more specific details.
> >
> > hope you have good luck with it! regards, miriam (2nd
> > yr bmid fusa).



> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone used/advised evening primrose oil vaginally to ripen the cervix
> of overdue women?  If so, what dose?  Is the capsule of oil opened first
or
> does it dissolve once inserted.  Any studies done on this procedure at
all?
> What are the possible side effects and hazards?  How "overdue" do you
> recommend to use it?  How often can it be inserted?  What time of the day
is
> best to insert it?  I've heard that a tampon can be used to help keep it
in
> place, is this so?  Thanks heaps.
>
> Cheers Joanne



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Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps.

[Denise Hynd]

I can not believe there are units still doing rectal temperatures on well 
babies

22 years ago there was an astounding amount of research on the risks (anal 
sphinter trauma hyperstimualation when using a rigid thermometer) and 
misinformation about the benefit of this route and that was before Tympanic 
option was available

Tympanics also have operator and machine failure rates which can be 
heithened with mec vernix in the ears

If a child is this cold it should require at least  a soft probe?
Where is the informed consent in doing this invasive procedure on babies
Sounds like so much more is needed to be done to keep sick and well  babies 
Skin to skin with its parent .

DeniseHynd
"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled."

- Linda Hes
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From: "Miriam Hannay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps.


hi there,
it is standard practice in our scbu, for all
admissions.
i have questioned this practice several times and the
answer is usually that 'its necessary to establish
patency'!?! had a babe come from theatre last week
covered in mec and the midwife asks me to do a pr
temp! i question again, and she backtracks saying 'its
the best way of establishing accurate core temp'.
this is so clearly not evidence based practice - i
find it so frustrating! i'm thinking of doing a lit
review on it for uni and would be interested in other
people's opinions/experiences/information.
regards miriam 2nd year bmid fusa
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps.

[Miriam Hannay]

hi there,

it is standard practice in our scbu, for all
admissions.

i have questioned this practice several times and the
answer is usually that 'its necessary to establish
patency'!?! had a babe come from theatre last week
covered in mec and the midwife asks me to do a pr
temp! i question again, and she backtracks saying 'its
the best way of establishing accurate core temp'. 

this is so clearly not evidence based practice - i
find it so frustrating! i'm thinking of doing a lit
review on it for uni and would be interested in other
people's opinions/experiences/information.

regards miriam 2nd year bmid fusa

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Lindsay Kennedy]

Hi,
I work in the neonatal unit, and we never do rectal temps.  Nor do we do
tympanic temps, they are all axilla.  My opinion is that this must have
varying levels of accuracy, depending on how careful you are with placement
of the thermometer (have seen some very poor practice at times).  One of the
nurses at our NICU is doing research into tympanic vs traditional temp
monitoring at present.  
Cheers
Lindsay

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 8:21 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

 hi i know this is off the track but i would like to know if it is common
practice in all SCBU that you do a rectal temp on neonates when they are
admitted. i know that there is evidence to state this practice is not good
and that we should be doing tympanic temps as they are far more accurate
also can anyone point me in the right direction to find this as ive tried
looking but can find the trial to print out 
thanks sharon
 Anne Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Dear Joanne,
> 

> 
The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women as per Birth Centre
Induction of Labour booklet! 
> 
Take Evening Primrose oil (gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert
2 in the vagina at   bedtime--you must stay laying down on your side or else
the caps may fall out (only try this as long as the bag of waters is
intact). 
> 

> 

> 
It doesn't START labour, only prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening
Primrose oil at just about any health food/vitamin/herbal type store or
supermarket. You can start taking about2 - 3 capsules orally daily at
almost 38 weeks.
> 

> 
 
> 


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

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 hi i know this is off the track but i would like to know if it is common 
practice in all SCBU that you do a rectal temp on neonates when they are 
admitted. i know that there is evidence to state this practice is not good and 
that we should be doing tympanic temps as they are far more accurate also can 
anyone point me in the right direction to find this as ive tried looking but 
can find the trial to print out 
thanks sharon
 Anne Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Dear Joanne,
> 

> 
The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women as per Birth Centre 
Induction of Labour booklet! 
> 
Take Evening Primrose oil (gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert 2 
in the vagina at   bedtime--you must stay laying down on your side or else the 
caps may fall out (only try this as long as the bag of waters is intact). 
> 

> 

> 
It doesn't START labour, only prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening Primrose 
oil at just about any health food/vitamin/herbal type store or supermarket. You 
can start taking about2 - 3 capsules orally daily at almost 38 weeks.
> 

> 
 
> 


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Anne Clarke]

Dear Joanne,
 
The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women 
as per Birth Centre Induction of Labour booklet! 

Take Evening Primrose oil 
(gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert 2 in the vagina at   bedtime--you must stay laying down 
on your side or else the caps may fall out (only try 
this as long as the bag of waters is intact). 

It doesn't START labour, only 
prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening Primrose oil at just about any health 
food/vitamin/herbal type store or supermarket. You can start taking about    2 - 3 capsules orally daily 
at almost 38 weeks.
 

Fw: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Julie Garratt]

Hi Mim and Joanne,
I as Mim says I've seen evening primrose oil used to ripen the cx of post 
date women in the Philippines 40+1-2 weeks. What we did was pierce a hole in 
the gel capsule (one) and squirt the contence around high in the vagina. 
Either these overdue women would have gone into labour anyway, it was 
placebic/psychological or just another excuse to stir things up a bit I cant 
be sure of unless someone does the research. Seemed to work, no side that I 
saw. Sorry I cant be more specific, I have been meaning to look this up but 
haven't had the reason or opportunity since I've been back. I read the list 
every day and have done for several years now, I find this midwifery 
collective consciousness invaluable:) Look forward to what you uncover.
Julie (3rd year BMid fusa)


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From: "Miriam Hannay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil


--- Hi Joanne, I have no experience with this method
but spoke some months ago to a fellow Bmid student who
came across it while on a clinical placement at a free
standing birth centre in the Phillipines.
Apparently the capsule is pierced then inserted into
the vagina where the contents are squirted around the
cervix, i'm not aure of dose etc but the student
(Julie) is aporadically onlist I think so i'll text
her and ask her to post more specific details.
hope you have good luck with it! regards, miriam (2nd
yr bmid fusa).
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Hi all,
Has anyone used/advised evening primrose oil vaginally to ripen the cervix 
of overdue women?  If so, what dose?  Is the capsule of oil opened first or 
does it dissolve once inserted.  Any studies done on this procedure at all? 
What are the possible side effects and hazards?  How "overdue" do you 
recommend to use it?  How often can it be inserted?  What time of the day is 
best to insert it?  I've heard that a tampon can be used to help keep it in 
place, is this so?  Thanks heaps.

Cheers Joanne 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Miriam Hannay]

--- Hi Joanne, I have no experience with this method
but spoke some months ago to a fellow Bmid student who
came across it while on a clinical placement at a free
standing birth centre in the Phillipines.

Apparently the capsule is pierced then inserted into
the vagina where the contents are squirted around the
cervix, i'm not aure of dose etc but the student
(Julie) is aporadically onlist I think so i'll text
her and ask her to post more specific details.

hope you have good luck with it! regards, miriam (2nd
yr bmid fusa).

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[ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

Hi all,
 
Has anyone used/advised evening primrose oil 
vaginally to ripen the cervix of overdue women?  If so, what 
dose?  Is the capsule of oil opened first or does it disolve once 
inserted.  Any studies done on this procedure at all?  What are the 
possible side effects and hazards?  How "overdue" do you recommend to 
use it?  How often can it be inserted?  What time of the day is best 
to insert it?  I've heard that a tampon can be used to help keep it in 
place, is this so?  Thanks heaps.
 
Cheers Joanne.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil

[jo hunter]

Hi Karen,

This is taken from "Birthings' a Homebirth Access Sydney publication, the
topic for this magazine was 'Natural Induction'.


'Evening Primrose Oil is a natural prostaglandin. The oil will assist in
softening/ripen the cervical tissues and increase the flexibility of the
pelvic ligaments, and will help the baby to deeply engage in the pelvis.
It's also useful for softening scar tissue from abortions or IUD damage.
You can take evening primrose oil, orally, in the last four weeks of your
pregnancy. You should take three evening primrose oil capsules daily for the
first week (36th week of gestation) and then one to two capsules a day for
the last three weeks of pregnancy. In the last week you can insert 2
capsules into the vagina at bedtime as long as the bag of waters is intact'.

I've also heard of midwives massaging the cervix with evening primrose oil
but wouldn't know how often etc etc.

Cheers
Jo Hunter

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From: "Fred and Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:36 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil


> Hi all,
>
> Just a query, can anyone tell me whether you have heard of evening
primrose
> oil being used vaginally to help bring on labour?
>
> If so, how much, how often etc etc???
>
> Many thanks
> Cheers
>
> Karen
>
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[ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil

[Fred and Karen]

Hi all,

Just a query, can anyone tell me whether you have heard of evening primrose
oil being used vaginally to help bring on labour?

If so, how much, how often etc etc???

Many thanks
Cheers

Karen

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