Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Mary Murphy]

I haven't a clue!  maybe it is something I will have to pursue when my 
head and body isn't "shagged"  by supporting women at their births.  
Cheers, MM

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denise Hynd 
   
  Mary 
  How do we go about getting NMAP on the agenda of 
  Emily's List???
  Becuase we need to be politically connected and 
  active to effect change just as RANZCOG and the AMA are to get what they 
  want!!
  Denise Hynd
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mary 
Murphy 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:39 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral 
Indignation

I recently joined Emily's List,  an ALP organisation. Why?  
Mostly because I just love their slogan."When women support 
women, women win!" 
 I think that says it all. 
  MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Greg Barbara Cook]

It is there in my area's chapter in Brisbane.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denise Hynd 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral 
  Indignation
  
  Mary 
  How do we go about getting NMAP on the agenda of 
  Emily's List???
  Becuase we need to be politically connected and 
  active to effect change just as RANZCOG and the AMA are to get what they 
  want!!
  Denise Hynd
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mary 
Murphy 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:39 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral 
Indignation

I recently joined Emily's List,  an ALP organisation. Why?  
Mostly because I just love their slogan."When women support 
women, women win!" 
 I think that says it all. 
  MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Denise Hynd]

Mary 
How do we go about getting NMAP on the agenda of 
Emily's List???
Becuase we need to be politically connected and 
active to effect change just as RANZCOG and the AMA are to get what they 
want!!
Denise Hynd

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mary 
  Murphy 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:39 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral 
  Indignation
  
  I recently joined Emily's List,  an ALP organisation. Why?  
  Mostly because I just love their slogan."When women support women, 
  women win!" 
   I think that says it all. 
MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Andrea Quanchi]

You got it Barb I was impressed with Robyn's part of the article but it 
was the comments by another well known midwife who is a member of the 
college that I was taking issue with. I deliberately didn't say who it 
was because I don't think it matters. Can't give you the link because I 
only saw the article which someone had cut out but it was one of the 
Victorian big papers (Age or Australian) last weekend.

Andrea
On Friday, August 30, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Barbara Howe wrote:

> The way I read the email, it wasn't Robyn Thompson,
> but someone else.
> Perhaps Andrea could send the link to the article, or
> the article itself so it's firsthand.
> Barb
>
> --- Denise Hynd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> Dear All
>>
>>  Regarding Robyn Thompson, I am sure that like a lot
>> of us , she has worked with the College, argued with
>> the College and tried every way she could to get
>> them to be effective in acting.to address the
>> midwifery issues in this country..
>> .
>> Now her frustration is only exceeded by her desire
>> to keep doing midwifery regardless of the personal
>> risk?
>>
>> Few of us have any understanding of putting
>> ourselves out for women and midwifery!
>> Imagine if even one maternity unit went on strike
>> unless a midwifery model of care was instigated with
>> support from the hospital administration.
>> There would be outrage but such a move would save
>> money and pain etc for women and babies and our
>> community!
>>
>> In NSW the GMTT recommendations (in last week end's
>> papers)
>> threatens several midwifery led units !
>> Where is the outrage of the midwives and consumers
>> involved let alone the NSWMA and midwives across the
>> state.
>> Where is the outrage that we have a refurbished
>> Birth Centre that is not allowed to have any
>> births??
>> (So much of what is happening with NSW Maternity
>> Services and GMTT is from a Yes Minister script!)
>>
>> I contemplate going to NZ or the UK if NMAP does not
>> get the support it deserves from the polies I wish I
>> could say it is overwhelmed by support from
>> midwives particularly the college!
>>
>> Now I know how busy they are and they do it in their
>> own time etc
>> and the polies and bureaucrats need to see this as
>> wanted by the consumers etc.
>>
>> Sorry but I can understand Robyn's frustration and I
>> hope her outburst shames midwives (particularly ACMI
>> ) into re arranging their priorities rather than
>> resulting in moral indignation!
>>
>> I see it as conferences, meetings and negotiations
>> have not changed midwifery and Australian birthing
>> (in fact we have been fiddling while the flames
>> engulf us !)
>> NMAP can with 100% support from informed midwives
>> and consumers!
>> Denise
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Mary Murphy]

I recently joined Emily's List,  an ALP organisation. Why?  
Mostly because I just love their slogan."When women support women, 
women win!" 
 I think that says it all. 
MM

[ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Barbara Howe]

The way I read the email, it wasn't Robyn Thompson,
but someone else.
Perhaps Andrea could send the link to the article, or
the article itself so it's firsthand. 
Barb

--- Denise Hynd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
Dear All 
> 
>  Regarding Robyn Thompson, I am sure that like a lot
> of us , she has worked with the College, argued with
> the College and tried every way she could to get
> them to be effective in acting.to address the
> midwifery issues in this country..
> .
> Now her frustration is only exceeded by her desire
> to keep doing midwifery regardless of the personal
> risk?
> 
> Few of us have any understanding of putting
> ourselves out for women and midwifery!
> Imagine if even one maternity unit went on strike
> unless a midwifery model of care was instigated with
> support from the hospital administration.
> There would be outrage but such a move would save
> money and pain etc for women and babies and our
> community!
> 
> In NSW the GMTT recommendations (in last week end's
> papers)
> threatens several midwifery led units !
> Where is the outrage of the midwives and consumers
> involved let alone the NSWMA and midwives across the
> state.
> Where is the outrage that we have a refurbished
> Birth Centre that is not allowed to have any
> births??
> (So much of what is happening with NSW Maternity
> Services and GMTT is from a Yes Minister script!)
> 
> I contemplate going to NZ or the UK if NMAP does not
> get the support it deserves from the polies I wish I
> could say it is overwhelmed by support from 
> midwives particularly the college!
>  
> Now I know how busy they are and they do it in their
> own time etc
> and the polies and bureaucrats need to see this as
> wanted by the consumers etc.
>  
> Sorry but I can understand Robyn's frustration and I
> hope her outburst shames midwives (particularly ACMI
> ) into re arranging their priorities rather than
> resulting in moral indignation!
> 
> I see it as conferences, meetings and negotiations
> have not changed midwifery and Australian birthing
> (in fact we have been fiddling while the flames
> engulf us !)
> NMAP can with 100% support from informed midwives
> and consumers!
> Denise 
> 
> 
>  

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[ozmidwifery] Moral Indignation

[Denise Hynd]

Dear All 

 
 Regarding Robyn Thompson, I am sure that 
like a lot of us , she has worked with the College, argued with the College and 
tried every way she could to get them to be effective in acting.to address the 
midwifery issues in this country..
.
Now her frustration is only exceeded by her desire 
to keep doing midwifery regardless of the personal risk?
 
Few of us have any understanding of putting 
ourselves out for women and midwifery!Imagine if even one maternity unit 
went on strike unless a midwifery model of care was instigated with support 
from the hospital administration.
There would be outrage but such a move would save money and pain etc for 
women and babies and our community!
 
In NSW the GMTT recommendations (in last week end's 
papers)
threatens several midwifery led units !Where is 
the outrage of the midwives and consumers involved let alone the NSWMA and 
midwives across the state.
Where is the outrage that we have a refurbished 
Birth Centre that is not allowed to have any births??
(So much of what is happening with NSW Maternity Services and GMTT is from 
a Yes Minister script!)
 
I contemplate going to NZ or the UK if NMAP does 
not get the support it deserves from the polies I wish I could say it is 
overwhelmed by support from  midwives particularly the 
college!
 
Now I know how busy they are and they do it in 
their own time etc
and the polies and bureaucrats need to see this as 
wanted by the consumers etc.
 
Sorry but I can understand Robyn's frustration and 
I hope her outburst shames midwives (particularly ACMI ) into re arranging 
their priorities rather than resulting in moral indignation!
 
I see it as conferences, meetings and negotiations have not changed 
midwifery and Australian birthing (in fact we have been fiddling while the 
flames engulf us !)
NMAP can with 100% support from informed midwives and consumers!
Denise