Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Hi Ann, actually there is pressure to be thin at every level - I think even little boys feel it these days. But thats very scary. Pinky - Original Message - From: "Ann green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > Dear Judy, > i did not pay much heed to those who said Barbie was > not a good toy to have until my daughter at age 6 said > she did not eat much because "I want to look like > Barbie."I have found that the local school's breakfast > program has encouraged her to at least have a better > breakfast than before.Until our holiday in Tassie she > only weighed 15kgs.While there she put on 4 kgs in 6 > weeks!She is not small in height which is 115cm just > looks thin.Ann--- Judy Giesaitis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of course it is Barbies fault, I always thought that > > she was the spawn of > > satan Judy > > -Original Message- > > From: Ann green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:05 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > > > > > > Dear List, > > I had heard that pregnant Barbie was banned as she > > encouraged the use of c/sections.So it is not the > > obst/ians IT IS BARBIE"S fault!I saw one pregnant > > doll > > that after the baby was removed the doll returned to > > a > > nice flat stomach.In my dreams-how I wish I had one > > of > > those i.e. flat stomach.Ann --- Pinky McKay > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Alesia I > > forgot - have you seen the Brazilian > > > Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually > > > gEverything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > > or unsubscribe. > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > > or unsubscribe. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
??? where has the pregnant Barbie been banned for encouraging Csections - I havent heard this one -In the US she was removed fromshelves at Walmart due to customer complaints that she was TOO explicit!! and would encourage TEEN pregnancies!! Actually not sure how the children could work out HOW she got pregnant -she and hubby are reproductively challenged! That darn Barbie is a bad influence!!! Pinky - Original Message - From: "Judy Giesaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > > Of course it is Barbies fault, I always thought that she was the spawn of > satan Judy > -Original Message- > From: Ann green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > > > Dear List, > I had heard that pregnant Barbie was banned as she > encouraged the use of c/sections.So it is not the > obst/ians IT IS BARBIE"S fault!I saw one pregnant doll > that after the baby was removed the doll returned to a > nice flat stomach.In my dreams-how I wish I had one of > those i.e. flat stomach.Ann --- Pinky McKay > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Alesia I > forgot - have you seen the Brazilian > > Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually > > gEverything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Dear Judy, i did not pay much heed to those who said Barbie was not a good toy to have until my daughter at age 6 said she did not eat much because "I want to look like Barbie."I have found that the local school's breakfast program has encouraged her to at least have a better breakfast than before.Until our holiday in Tassie she only weighed 15kgs.While there she put on 4 kgs in 6 weeks!She is not small in height which is 115cm just looks thin.Ann--- Judy Giesaitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course it is Barbies fault, I always thought that > she was the spawn of > satan Judy > -Original Message- > From: Ann green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > > > Dear List, > I had heard that pregnant Barbie was banned as she > encouraged the use of c/sections.So it is not the > obst/ians IT IS BARBIE"S fault!I saw one pregnant > doll > that after the baby was removed the doll returned to > a > nice flat stomach.In my dreams-how I wish I had one > of > those i.e. flat stomach.Ann --- Pinky McKay > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Alesia I > forgot - have you seen the Brazilian > > Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually > > gEverything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Of course it is Barbies fault, I always thought that she was the spawn of satan Judy -Original Message- From: Ann green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List, I had heard that pregnant Barbie was banned as she encouraged the use of c/sections.So it is not the obst/ians IT IS BARBIE"S fault!I saw one pregnant doll that after the baby was removed the doll returned to a nice flat stomach.In my dreams-how I wish I had one of those i.e. flat stomach.Ann --- Pinky McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian > Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually > gEverything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Dear List, I had heard that pregnant Barbie was banned as she encouraged the use of c/sections.So it is not the obst/ians IT IS BARBIE"S fault!I saw one pregnant doll that after the baby was removed the doll returned to a nice flat stomach.In my dreams-how I wish I had one of those i.e. flat stomach.Ann --- Pinky McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian > Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually > gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and > breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a > Barbie. > Pinky > - Original Message - > From: Alesa Koziol > To: ozmidwifery > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM > Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie > > > Dear List > Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I > asked her about this doll (thought it could be a > useful prop for a sibling antenatal education > class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' > competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product > on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought > one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant > tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed > along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this > doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a > "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a > "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant > shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or > the basic > doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a > wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with > children which is where I will be using it. > Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on > this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel > one! > > Cheers > > Alesa > > Alesa Koziol > Clinical Midwifery Educator > Melbourne __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Ah, I was wondering how the interview went. Goodonya, Aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Hi Alesia, who makes the Steffi Love? I guess they havent got a PR machine like Mattel's causing a stir. Its such a game isnt it - I did a radio interview on 3ak last week it was a hoot and lots of fun -I took Hello Baby By Jenni Overend and In Union as "props" to show and tell and talked about my own ten year old being at my last birth - shes about to be a support person for her friend/ ex housemate (housemate told me that at the private hosp she is booked at they like women to have epidurals -its easier for staff as the women arent in pain!! We had a wee chat about being able to move round in labour/ water etc making things happen more easily) The radio host was Yvonne Adele - she is very pro natural birth and breastfeeding so we had a ball joking about Midge -and discussing children at birth and how people felt about that - she wasnt sure about that (isnt birth a bit "gory" for children?) so I was able to say it felt natural to me and I had explained to my girls that it was food blood not hurtig blood but I dont think larissa even noticed the blood - at least not with any alarm, it wasnt a strong memory - I have a beautiful story she wrote later - but each woman had to consider her own and her childs needs. It was quite a juicy discussion in spite of being light hearted. The phone-in was fun - one elderly lady upset that childrens innocence was being stolen / another stopped her car to phone that she had used a pregnant doll some years ago as a tool talking about families in a religious education class at a primary school !! thats pretty advanced stuff. I did a couple of news grabs yesterday -I havent listened to them but they were prerecorded so could have been "altered" for context - a Brisbane reporter was very pushy about the "ideal" family - I tried to sidestep that one -who gives a toss?? Midge and bub are in one box and Alan and toddler in another- people can decide the relevance for themselves - but Midge even fits her wedding ring - no swollen fingers!! At least its nice to have an 'involved' Daddy -frankly I cant see why all the fuss -its just a doll. I must have a look for the Steffi doll. Pinky --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/03
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
I don't know if it's the Steffi Love doll or not, but my local $2 shop has pregnant dolls with detachable tummies & babies in utero, and a lovely little mu-mu outfit - MUCH cheaper than the Mattel version - although this one may be an unwed mother (shock, horror) - no daddy in sight here. Veronyka - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Yes I have, but the cost was a deterrant to its purchase- too many books and charts to buy not enough money :). A great doll though, I specially like the breasts with nipples on that doll. Alesa - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a Barbie. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal education class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with children which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Yes I have, but the cost was a deterrant to its purchase- too many books and charts to buy not enough money :). A great doll though, I specially like the breasts with nipples on that doll. Alesa - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a Barbie. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal education class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with children which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Hi Alesia, who makes the Steffi Love? I guess they havent got a PR machine like Mattel's causing a stir. Its such a game isnt it - I did a radio interview on 3ak last week it was a hoot and lots of fun -I took Hello Baby By Jenni Overend and In Union as "props" to show and tell and talked about my own ten year old being at my last birth - shes about to be a support person for her friend/ ex housemate (housemate told me that at the private hosp she is booked at they like women to have epidurals -its easier for staff as the women arent in pain!! We had a wee chat about being able to move round in labour/ water etc making things happen more easily) The radio host was Yvonne Adele - she is very pro natural birth and breastfeeding so we had a ball joking about Midge -and discussing children at birth and how people felt about that - she wasnt sure about that (isnt birth a bit "gory" for children?) so I was able to say it felt natural to me and I had explained to my girls that it was food blood not hurtig blood but I dont think larissa even noticed the blood - at least not with any alarm, it wasnt a strong memory - I have a beautiful story she wrote later - but each woman had to consider her own and her childs needs. It was quite a juicy discussion in spite of being light hearted. The phone-in was fun - one elderly lady upset that childrens innocence was being stolen / another stopped her car to phone that she had used a pregnant doll some years ago as a tool talking about families in a religious education class at a primary school !! thats pretty advanced stuff. I did a couple of news grabs yesterday -I havent listened to them but they were prerecorded so could have been "altered" for context - a Brisbane reporter was very pushy about the "ideal" family - I tried to sidestep that one -who gives a toss?? Midge and bub are in one box and Alan and toddler in another- people can decide the relevance for themselves - but Midge even fits her wedding ring - no swollen fingers!! At least its nice to have an 'involved' Daddy -frankly I cant see why all the fuss -its just a doll. I must have a look for the Steffi doll. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal education class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with children which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a Barbie. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal education class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with children which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
[ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie
Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal education class) she informed me that Mattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love' has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can be removed along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy with children which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
