Re: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[Joy Cocks]

My oldest grandson is so used to co-sleeping that, when he was about 5 or 6
and we were discussing sleeping arrangements (must have been staying at my
place or something) he thought that his stepfather could sleep with me in my
bed!  I don't think so!!
Joy

Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM IBCLC
BRIGHT Vic 3741
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From: "nunyara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 14:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping


> Hi all!  Just a word on the co-sleeping issue.  Was told not to when I had
> my first child who is now 30 but tiredness won me over in the first couple
> of weeks so into the bed she came.  Same thing happened with second child
12
> months later.  On and off they co-slept and, even now, when visiting and
> staying over (although they only live 5 minutes away), they jump at the
> chance to sleep in bed with Mum when Dad is away working.  My grandson
> always sleeps with me when he stays as does my almost 4 year old grand
> daughter.  My youngest daughter also co-sleeps with her children.  Never
any
> problems other than the occasional falling out of bed but the mattress on
> the floor does the trick there!
>
> Cheers Ramona
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK
> Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 5:55 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping
>
> Yes!  So true.  As a permanent  P/T night-duty person, I hear the "don't
> want to get him/her into a bad habit" far too often.  I find by night 2/3
> they are so tired, they think that co-sleeping is a possibility and I
> encourage them fully!
>
> Mine still manage to find their way into our bed, and the youngest little
> possum is 4!! But at least they don't wander in until 4-5am now.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
> >From: "Ken Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >To: "ozmidwifery" 
> >Subject: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping
> >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:27:17 +1100
> >
> >
> >It's not necessarily the midwives preventing co-sleeping. I often hear
'the
> >baby's been awake all night. Would go to sleep and wake up as soon as I
> >put
> >him down.'  When  suggestions are made to co-sleep, they don't want to
> >"start bad habits".  a lot of women are influenced by their mothers,
> >partners etc,  who don't approve of co-sleeping., thank God the influence
> >on
> >breast feeding isn't quite as strong as it used to be.  It's strange,
these
> >little ones are expected to sleep on a hard, cold surface after been
> >snuggled up listening to mum for months.   If I remember right a
> >co-sleeping
> >policy was short and sweet. Mum had to be sedative free, the bedside up
and
> >bed as low as possible.
> >Ken & Maureen Ward
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> >
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RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[nunyara]

Hi all!  Just a word on the co-sleeping issue.  Was told not to when I had
my first child who is now 30 but tiredness won me over in the first couple
of weeks so into the bed she came.  Same thing happened with second child 12
months later.  On and off they co-slept and, even now, when visiting and
staying over (although they only live 5 minutes away), they jump at the
chance to sleep in bed with Mum when Dad is away working.  My grandson
always sleeps with me when he stays as does my almost 4 year old grand
daughter.  My youngest daughter also co-sleeps with her children.  Never any
problems other than the occasional falling out of bed but the mattress on
the floor does the trick there! 

Cheers Ramona

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 5:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

Yes!  So true.  As a permanent  P/T night-duty person, I hear the "don't 
want to get him/her into a bad habit" far too often.  I find by night 2/3 
they are so tired, they think that co-sleeping is a possibility and I 
encourage them fully!

Mine still manage to find their way into our bed, and the youngest little 
possum is 4!! But at least they don't wander in until 4-5am now.

Cheryl


>From: "Ken Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
>To: "ozmidwifery" 
>Subject: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:27:17 +1100
>
>
>It's not necessarily the midwives preventing co-sleeping. I often hear 'the
>baby's been awake all night. Would go to sleep and wake up as soon as I  
>put
>him down.'  When  suggestions are made to co-sleep, they don't want to
>"start bad habits".  a lot of women are influenced by their mothers,
>partners etc,  who don't approve of co-sleeping., thank God the influence 
>on
>breast feeding isn't quite as strong as it used to be.  It's strange, these
>little ones are expected to sleep on a hard, cold surface after been
>snuggled up listening to mum for months.   If I remember right a 
>co-sleeping
>policy was short and sweet. Mum had to be sedative free, the bedside up and
>bed as low as possible.
>Ken & Maureen Ward
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


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RE: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[Cheryl LHK]

Yes!  So true.  As a permanent  P/T night-duty person, I hear the "don't 
want to get him/her into a bad habit" far too often.  I find by night 2/3 
they are so tired, they think that co-sleeping is a possibility and I 
encourage them fully!


Mine still manage to find their way into our bed, and the youngest little 
possum is 4!! But at least they don't wander in until 4-5am now.


Cheryl



From: "Ken Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: "ozmidwifery" 
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:27:17 +1100


It's not necessarily the midwives preventing co-sleeping. I often hear 'the
baby's been awake all night. Would go to sleep and wake up as soon as I  
put

him down.'  When  suggestions are made to co-sleep, they don't want to
"start bad habits".  a lot of women are influenced by their mothers,
partners etc,  who don't approve of co-sleeping., thank God the influence 
on

breast feeding isn't quite as strong as it used to be.  It's strange, these
little ones are expected to sleep on a hard, cold surface after been
snuggled up listening to mum for months.   If I remember right a 
co-sleeping

policy was short and sweet. Mum had to be sedative free, the bedside up and
bed as low as possible.
Ken & Maureen Ward
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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[ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[Ken Ward]

It's not necessarily the midwives preventing co-sleeping. I often hear 'the
baby's been awake all night. Would go to sleep and wake up as soon as I  put
him down.'  When  suggestions are made to co-sleep, they don't want to
"start bad habits".  a lot of women are influenced by their mothers,
partners etc,  who don't approve of co-sleeping., thank God the influence on
breast feeding isn't quite as strong as it used to be.  It's strange, these
little ones are expected to sleep on a hard, cold surface after been
snuggled up listening to mum for months.   If I remember right a co-sleeping
policy was short and sweet. Mum had to be sedative free, the bedside up and
bed as low as possible.  
Ken & Maureen Ward
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[Jen Semple]

Hi Pinky,
 
I missed the show, but I found the transcript (love the ABC) http://www.abc.net.au/gnt/future/Transcripts/s1058920.htm
 
It looks like it came off quite well... sounds like everyone (inc. the doc that runs the sleep school) made it clear that they support co-sleeping.  Don't know about the quote (by the doc) "Women seem to develop this kind of oestrogenic fog that they move around in." though- what the?!
 
Well done to you & thanks for letting us know about the show.
 
Jen
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[ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

[Pinky McKay]

hi everyone,
I am "commenting" (I dont know how this will be 
chopped or re-arranged) in a segment on George Negus tonight re co-sleeping. It 
will also feature an interview with Prof James McKenna.
 
Thats at 6.30pm on ABC TV.
 
Fingers crossed it is sensible/ unbiased/ 
unsensational(mind you, would that be great TV??) as the presenter just 
happens to run a baby "sleep clinic" here in Melbourne. The producer is a 
nice young fellow - actually the presenter is a nice man too, so I found it 
difficult to imagine him "supporting" parents to control cry. It is all becoming 
so "normalised" isnt it.
 
Pinky
 

[ozmidwifery] Re co-sleeping

[Pinky McKay]

Thanks Lesley,
It is so good to see tow major infant health organisations working together 
like this instead of scaremongering or denying that co-sleeping happens.
Pinky

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  UNICEF releases new guidance on bed sharing for breastfeeding 
mothers-05/09/2003UNICEF 
UK's Baby Friendly Initiative, with the support of the Foundation for 
the Study of Infant Deaths (FSID), has launched a new information 
leaflet for breastfeeding mothers who are thinking of sharing a bed with 
their babies. This is the first time that the two organisations have 
released joint information.The UNICEF leaflet 'Sharing a bed 
with your baby' provides parents with accurate and helpful information 
about sleeping safely with their babies. It recognises that mothers who 
sleep with their babies find breastfeeding easier but also offers 
guidance on avoiding accidents and gives clear warnings against unsafe 
bed sharing. Parents are cautioned against sharing a bed with their baby 
if they smoke, have drunk alcohol, taken drugs or medication that makes 
them sleepy, or are extremely tired, as bed sharing under those 
conditions increases the risk of cot death. Parents are also informed of 
the dangers of sleeping with their babies on sofas. But the leaflet 
supports breastfeeding mothers who don't fall into these risk categories 
to use safe bed-sharing as a way of providing the enormous health 
benefits of breastfeeding."This leaflet should be extremely 
useful for both health professionals and parents," said Andrew Radford, 
Programme Director of UNICEF UK's Baby Friendly Initiative. "We know 
that many parents take their babies into bed with them for at least part 
of the night and that this can be a very positive experience, 
particularly if they're breastfeeding. However, we want to make sure 
that it's also a safe experience. By issuing a joint leaflet, UNICEF and 
FSID are giving clear and unambiguous information about both the 
benefits of bed sharing and the times when it is not safe" he 
added.Accessible via www.babyfriendly.org.uk/parents, more than 
half a million copies of the leaflet will be given free-of-charge each 
year to new mothers via the Baby Welcome sample packs distributed in 
hospitals.Commenting on the launch, FSID Director Joyce Epstein 
said, "We support the UNICEF Baby Friendly Initiative's efforts to 
promote safe bed sharing and we are delighted to be working with 
them."For more information or to arrange an interview with 
Andrew Radford at UNICEF UK's Baby Friendly Initiative please 
contact:Jo Fletcher in the UNICEF UK Press Office on: 020 7312 7677 
or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]Notes to Editor:The Baby 
Friendly Initiative is a global programme of UNICEF and the World Health 
Organisation which works with the health services to improve practice so 
that parents are enabled and supported to make informed choices about 
how they feed and care for their babies. Health care facilities which 
adopt practices to support successful breastfeeding receive the 
prestigious UNICEF/WHO Baby Friendly award. In the UK, the Baby Friendly 
Initiative is commissioned by various parts of the health service to 
provide advice, support, training, networking, assessment and 
accreditation.There are currently 49 fully accredited Baby 
Friendly health care facilities in the UK and another 75 which have been 
awarded the Certificate of Commitment, the first stage towards becoming 
Baby Friendly.Breastfeeding and healthBabies who are not 
breastfed are more likely to suffer several severe illnesses, including 
gasto-enteritis, respiratory, urinary tract and ear infections. In 
childhood they are also at greater risk of asthma, eczema, and diabetes, 
while as adults they are more likely to suffer high blood pressure, 
obesity and other cardiovascular risk factors.Mothers who breastfeed 
for longest are least likely to suffer from breast and ovarian cancer 
and osteoporosis in later life.Full details can be found on the 
UNICEF Baby Friendly Initiative 
website:www.babyfriendly.org.ukThe Foundation for the Study 
of Infant Deaths is one of the UK's leading baby charities working to 
prevent sudden infant deaths and promote baby health. FSID funds 
research, promotes health advice to parents and profess

[ozmidwifery] Re: co-sleeping

[Ann green]

 Dear List,
My response is who is so blessed to only have 3!?
As soon as there is 5 my husband leaves and sleeps
else where.Just so glad the 2 older children have left
home.Ann--- Pinky McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > 
> Three in a Bed is written by Deborah Jackson.
> The Asian website is www.healthtoday.net
> Rachel Salazar is the editor in chief if you want to
> contact her -the co-sleeping article I mentioned is
> on the site.
> 
> Pinky
> www.pinky-mychild.com
> 
>  

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