RE: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
My baby was breech and I believe it happened for a number of reasons. First, my posture was pretty bad. Second, my lifestyle was mainly sedentiary. Third, I had this lovely chair in which I could lean back and relax, so I hardly spent any time leaning forward while awake. Fourth, we were always taught to tuck put stomacks in and straighten our backs, so my stomach was rarely relaxed and when it was, it was in the wrong direction :). Only after giving birth did I come up to the great advice for relaxing those muscles during birth and that was to imagine that youre 10 months pregnant. I often remember this advice when I have a period and it really takes away the pain. And last, I was afraid not of the birth, but of the after birth I didnt know if I was going to be able to be a good mother and this was really important to me to be a good mother. Anyway, I had an ECV (shining light to the baby, talking to it and lifting my pelvis didnt do it) and it was the less of two evils in my opinion the only other alternative offered was CS. I heard later on about the moxa sticks. That would be something Id try before ECV if I were in the same situation again. Probably also hypnosis if it were available. Vedrana From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Diane Gardner Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Hi Madelaine In my experience I have found that the mothers of babies who are breech usually have something going on in their lives or fear of something in relation to birth. The babies have their heads close to the mum's heart for comfort knowing that something is not right with her. We have successfully turned many babies with hypnosis. A study done in the USA on 2 groups of 100 women where inthe 1st group where nothing was done 26% of the babies turned while in the hypnosis group 84% turned. Babies know when you talk to them and also maybe the mum needs some further reassurance that all is OK in her world. I have had them commence to turn while in my office and certainly many where arms and legs are going everyehere. I personally do not agree with the hands on approach. Babies are breech for a reason andI believe that ifthey don't turn by thermselves then don't mess with nature. regards Diane Gardner - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Sonja, the lady who currently has a breech baby does have a OB or a referal to someone who will preform and ECV. Madelaine - Original Message - From: Sonja Barry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby do you live near an Ob who will perform an ECV? ' Sonja
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
thank you for the website. Madelaine - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Try these : ) One midwifes collection of breech turning info.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechcl.htmlAttending a breech birth.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechbr.htmlTurning a breech.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechtn.htmlBook review on breech babies.http://www.midwiferytoday.com/reviews/breech.aspIna May Gaskin on catching surprise breech babies!http://www.midwiferytoday.com/artic...isebreeches.aspHomeopathy to turn babies in utero.http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/turnbaby.aspA great site on moving breech babies.http://www.spinningbabies.comA Natural Breech Birth - hospitalhttp://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBMarApr01p47.htmlMore than you could ever hope for from the UK midwives (I love these women!)http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/breech.htmAbout 500 birth stories with clear descriptions.http://www.breechbabies.com/hospital_breech.htmMake sure you visit~http://www.spinningbabies.com/pregnancy.html - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Hi, I was wondering if anyone can suggest anyway to turn a breeched baby. I have recommended moxa every day for 15minutes on thenail of the little toes - this actually started the process but has not fully turned the baby. I have also given her pulsutilla 200c, suggested visualisation and talking to the baby. I amslight apprehensive in recommending any of the yoga exercises as I dont know that much about them. I would appreciate if anyonecouldrecommend anything at all or any website that would have information for my lady. Her OB is recommending she go in for a c-section at 38wk or to manually turn the baby however he has said this can create complications. Thanking you Madelaine Akras Naturopath
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
Sonja, the lady who currently has a breech baby does have a OB or a referal to someone who will preform and ECV. Madelaine - Original Message - From: Sonja Barry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby do you live near an Ob who will perform an ECV? ' Sonja - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Hi, I was wondering if anyone can suggest anyway to turn a breeched baby. I have recommended moxa every day for 15minutes on thenail of the little toes - this actually started the process but has not fully turned the baby. I have also given her pulsutilla 200c, suggested visualisation and talking to the baby. I amslight apprehensive in recommending any of the yoga exercises as I dont know that much about them. I would appreciate if anyonecouldrecommend anything at all or any website that would have information for my lady. Her OB is recommending she go in for a c-section at 38wk or to manually turn the baby however he has said this can create complications. Thanking you Madelaine Akras Naturopath
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
Hi Madelaine In my experience I have found that the mothers of babies who are breech usually have something going on in their lives or fear of something in relation to birth. The babies have their heads close to the mum's heart for comfort knowing that something is not right with her. We have successfully turned many babies with hypnosis. A study done in the USA on 2 groups of 100 women where inthe 1st group where nothing was done 26% of the babies turned while in the hypnosis group 84% turned. Babies know when you talk to them and also maybe the mum needs some further reassurance that all is OK in her world. I have had them commence to turn while in my office and certainly many where arms and legs are going everyehere. I personally do not agree with the hands on approach. Babies are breech for a reason andI believe that ifthey don't turn by thermselves then don't mess with nature. regards Diane Gardner - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Sonja, the lady who currently has a breech baby does have a OB or a referal to someone who will preform and ECV. Madelaine - Original Message - From: Sonja Barry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby do you live near an Ob who will perform an ECV? ' Sonja
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
Try these : ) One midwifes collection of breech turning info.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechcl.htmlAttending a breech birth.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechbr.htmlTurning a breech.http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechtn.htmlBook review on breech babies.http://www.midwiferytoday.com/reviews/breech.aspIna May Gaskin on catching surprise breech babies!http://www.midwiferytoday.com/artic...isebreeches.aspHomeopathy to turn babies in utero.http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/turnbaby.aspA great site on moving breech babies.http://www.spinningbabies.comA Natural Breech Birth - hospitalhttp://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBMarApr01p47.htmlMore than you could ever hope for from the UK midwives (I love these women!)http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/breech.htmAbout 500 birth stories with clear descriptions.http://www.breechbabies.com/hospital_breech.htmMake sure you visit~http://www.spinningbabies.com/pregnancy.html - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Hi, I was wondering if anyone can suggest anyway to turn a breeched baby. I have recommended moxa every day for 15minutes on thenail of the little toes - this actually started the process but has not fully turned the baby. I have also given her pulsutilla 200c, suggested visualisation and talking to the baby. I amslight apprehensive in recommending any of the yoga exercises as I dont know that much about them. I would appreciate if anyonecouldrecommend anything at all or any website that would have information for my lady. Her OB is recommending she go in for a c-section at 38wk or to manually turn the baby however he has said this can create complications. Thanking you Madelaine Akras Naturopath
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby
do you live near an Ob who will perform an ECV? ' Sonja - Original Message - From: Madelaine Akras To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breeched baby Hi, I was wondering if anyone can suggest anyway to turn a breeched baby. I have recommended moxa every day for 15minutes on thenail of the little toes - this actually started the process but has not fully turned the baby. I have also given her pulsutilla 200c, suggested visualisation and talking to the baby. I amslight apprehensive in recommending any of the yoga exercises as I dont know that much about them. I would appreciate if anyonecouldrecommend anything at all or any website that would have information for my lady. Her OB is recommending she go in for a c-section at 38wk or to manually turn the baby however he has said this can create complications. Thanking you Madelaine Akras Naturopath
