Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for sharing your experience. I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I - is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE sleep deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors also. I know one thing... we wouldn't have to worry about being quiet... or checking for the pitter patter of footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! It's almost like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get caught! kindest regards, Nicole - Original Message - From: Graham and Helen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I have a personal experience to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died when I was four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and 12. I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died and continued to do so most nights until I was about 15. Mum never ever had a relationship again which was very sad and hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed in their beds but soon after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding school as Mum thought they needed a male influence...but that is another story. I certainly don't class myself to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home and travelled extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing. I still do, however, have a very close emotional bond to Mum who is now in her eighties. I found out a few years ago that my older brother was a bit worried that I was still sleeping with Mum when I was fourteen. At that stage Mum and I were living alone as my sister had moved out by then. She didn't tell me at the time and when I heard I thought it was a bit of a laugh. So anyway, when it came to co-sleeping with our child it seemed only natural, despite the fact that I had no preconcieved ideas about how we would handle it. I did recognize that my situation with Mum would no doubt have been quite different if Dad had still been alive. He used to let us get in to the bed in the night, but we were still predominantly in the cot when he was around. We certainly find our child needs to co-sleep as part of his emotional security and it is predominantly a beautiful bond strengthening experience alround, but admit as per my recent postings on the subject, that it can be "challenging to say the least" and does, at times, interfere with our sex lives. We don't seem to be as energetic, imaginative or motivated as we were early in our relationship. I wonder if it is also an age/familiarity related thing...again that is another story. I too have really enjoyed the recent discussions on this subject and thanks those who have give us an insight into their lives when the sun goes down. Helen Cahill
RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
Apparently putting Vaseline on the door knob stops littlies from coming in to the bedroom at inopportune moments LOL. Cheers, Julie Garratt a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Christensen Sent: Sunday, 21 March 2004 10:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for sharing your experience. I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I - is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE sleep deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors also. I know one thing... we wouldn't have to worry about being quiet... or checking for the pitter patter of footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! It's almost like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get caught! kindest regards, Nicole - Original Message - From: Graham and Helen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I have a personal experience to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died when I was four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and 12. I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died and continued to do so most nights until I was about 15. Mum never ever had a relationship again which was very sad and hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed in their beds but soon after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding school as Mum thought they needed a male influence...but that is another story. I certainly don't class myself to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home and travelled extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing. I still do, however, have a very close emotional bond to Mum who is now in her eighties. I found out a few years ago that my older brother was a bit worried that I was still sleeping with Mum when I was fourteen. At that stage Mum and I were living alone as my sister had moved out by then. She didn't tell me at the time and when I heard I thought it was a bit of a laugh. So anyway, when it came to co-sleeping with our child it seemed only natural, despite the fact that I had no preconcieved ideas about how we would handle it. I did recognize that my situation with Mum would no doubt have been quite different if Dad had still been alive. He used to let us get in to the bed in the night, but we were still predominantly in the cot when he was around. We certainly find our child needs to co-sleep as part of his emotional security and it is predominantly a beautiful bond strengthening experience alround, but admit as per my recent postings on the subject, that it can be "challenging to say the least" and does, at times, interfere with our sex lives. We don't seem to be as energetic, imaginative or motivated as we were early in our relationship. I wonder if it is also an age/familiarity related thing...again that is another story. I too have really enjoyed the recent discussions on this subject and thanks those who have give us an insight into their lives when the sun goes down. Helen Cahill
RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
Its pretty obvious from this list that co-sleeping can't inhibit your sex life too much, just look at how many of us have 3 children, and some. I remember before having my children, working full time in my own business and hubby working full time, plus renovating and a social life etc, we had some pretty quiet times in the bedroom. Exhaustion is not a good aphrodisiac, no matter what causes it. My total picture now is much happier, and the sex is pretty damn good when we make the effort. Maybe we just appreciate it more. Cheers Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Nicole ChristensenSent: Sunday, 21 March 2004 10:45To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for sharing your experience. I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I - is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE sleep deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors also. I know one thing... we wouldn't have to worry about being quiet... or checking for the pitter patter of footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! It's almost like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get caught! kindest regards, Nicole - Original Message - From: Graham and Helen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I have a personal experience to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died when I was four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and 12. I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died and continued to do so most nights until I was about 15. Mum never ever had a relationship again which was very sad and hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed in their beds but soon after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding school as Mum thought they needed a male influence...but that is another story. I certainly don't class myself to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home and travelled extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing. I still do, however, have a very close emotional bond to Mum who is now in her eighties. I found out a few years ago that my older brother was a bit worried that I was still sleeping with Mum when I was fourteen. At that stage Mum and I were living alone as my sister had moved out by then. She didn't tell me at the time and when I heard I thought it was a bit of a laugh. So anyway, when it came to co-sleeping with our child it seemed only natural, despite the fact that I had no preconcieved ideas about how we would handle it. I did recognize that my situation with Mum would no doubt have been quite different if Dad had still been alive. He used to let us get in to the bed in the night, but we were still predominantly in the cot when he was around. We certainly find our child needs to co-sleep as part of his emotional security and it is predominantly a beautiful bond strengthening experience alround, but admit as per my recent postings on the subject, that it can be "challenging to say the least" and does, at times, interfere with our sex lives. We don't seem to be as energetic, imaginative or motivated as we were early in our relationship. I wonder if it is also an age/familiarity related thing...again that is another story. I too have really enjoyed the recent discussions on this subject and thanks those who have give us an insight into their lives when the sun goes down. Helen Cahill
Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
yep - it works!! but dont leave it where they can get it- we had a cat smeared in vaseline once!! :) pinky - Original Message - From: Julie Garratt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:52 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children Apparently putting Vaseline on the door knob stops littlies from coming in to the bedroom at inopportune moments LOL. Cheers, Julie Garratt a -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole ChristensenSent: Sunday, 21 March 2004 10:45 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for sharing your experience. I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I - is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE sleep deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors also. I know one thing... we wouldn't have to worry about being quiet... or checking for the pitter patter of footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! It's almost like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get caught! kindest regards, Nicole - Original Message - From: Graham and Helen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children I have a personal experience to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died when I was four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and 12. I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died and continued to do so most nights until I was about 15. Mum never ever had a relationship again which was very sad and hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed in their beds but soon after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding school as Mum thought they needed a male influence...but that is another story. I certainly don't class myself to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home and travelled extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing. I still do, however, have a very close emotional bond to Mum who is now in her eighties. I found out a few years ago that my older brother was a bit worried that I was still sleeping with Mum when I was fourteen. At that stage Mum and I were living alone as my sister had moved out by then. She didn't tell me at the time and when I heard I thought it was a bit of a laugh. So anyway, when it came to co-sleeping with our child it seemed only natural, despite the fact that I had no preconcieved ideas about how we would handle it. I did recognize that my situation with Mum would no doubt have been quite different if Dad had still been alive. He used to let us get in to the bed in the night, but we were still predominantly in the cot when he was around. We certainly find our child needs to co-sleep as part of his emotional security and it is predominantly a beautiful bond strengthening experience alround, but admit as per my recent postings on the subject, that it can be "challenging to say the least" and does, at times, interfere with our sex lives. We don't seem to be as energetic, imaginative or motivated as we were early in our relationship. I wonder if it is also an age/familiarity related thing...again that is another story. I too have really enjoyed the recent discussions on this subject and thanks those who have give us an insight into their lives when the sun goes down. Helen Cahill
Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
I have noticed a few people say that their kids
"happily moved to their own room", and so I was wondering just how this
happened. Was it adult or child initiated? Was there anything that you did to
make sure that they were comfortable/secure etc? Any tips, advice or stories
would be appreciated.
I must admit that I am not looking forward to that
stage.
thanks,
megan.
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From:
Pinky McKay
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:11
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
and older children
yep - it works!! but dont leave it where they can
get it- we had a cat smeared in vaseline once!! :)
pinky
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From:
Julie Garratt
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:52
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Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
and older children
Apparently putting
Vaseline on the door knob stops littlies from coming in to the bedroom at
inopportune moments LOL.
Cheers,
Julie Garratt a
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Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole
ChristensenSent: Sunday,
21 March 2004 10:45 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
and older children
I loved reading your story Helen
- thank you for sharing your
experience.
I wonder how our sex life would
be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because
of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I
- is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE sleep
deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors
also.
I know one thing... we wouldn't
have to worry about being quiet... or checking for the pitter patter of
footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! It's almost
like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get
caught!
kindest
regards,
Nicole
- Original Message -
From: Graham
and Helen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject:
[ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
I have a personal experience
to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died when I was
four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and
12. I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died
and continued to do so most nights until I was about 15.
Mum never ever had a relationship again which was very sad and
hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been
comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed
in their beds but soon after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding
school as Mum thought they needed a male influence...but that is another
story.
I certainly don't class myself
to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home and travelled
extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing. I
still do, however, have a very close emotional bond to Mum who is now in
her eighties.
I found out a few years ago
that my older brother was a bit worried that I was still sleeping with Mum
when I was fourteen. At that stage Mum and I were living alone
as my sister had moved out by then. She didn't tell
me at the time and when I heard I thought it was a bit of a laugh.
So anyway, when it came to
co-sleeping with our child it seemed only natural, despite the fact that I
had no preconcieved ideas about how we would handle it. I did
recognize that my situation with Mum would no doubt have been quite
different if Dad had still been alive. He used to let us get in to
the bed in the night, but we were still predominantly in the cot when
he was around.
We certainly find our child
needs to co-sleep as part of his emotional security and it is
predominantly a beautiful bond strengthening experience alround, but admit
as per my recent postings on the subject, that it can be "challenging to
say the least" and does, at times, interfere with our sex
lives. We don't seem to be as energetic, imaginative or motivated as
we were early in our relationship. I wonder if it is also an
age/familiarity related thing...again that is another story.
I too have really enjoyed the
Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children
We fully coslept for 18 months, then we bought DD a bed and put her bed against the wall and our mattress on the floor on the otherside so that she was close to us and if she rolled out she had a soft landing. We made a big deal of setting it up, bought her nice linen and always made it look lovely and inviting. She loved her own bed and moved to it very happily (though so did I most of the time). Then at about 22 months we reorganised our tiney 1 bd appartment plus sunroom so that she got the sunroom as her bedroom and our bed was in what should have been loungeroom, just outside her door as it happened. Again we made a big fuss of "her own room" and when she woke up in their the first time and I asked did she like it she said "thankyou daddy" (he had given up his study for her room and she obviously knew that). I continued to spend a lot of time in her bed on and off until a week ago when we night weaned. She still wakes up once most nights but DH and I are on a mission to! get her sleeping through as well as night weaned (which is working very easily) so we both get up to her, I lie down next to her and he sits on a chair next to the bed and makes me stay awake so that I leave the bed as soon as she is asleep. I was in her bed for 1.5 hrs last night because she woke so close to morning, but that is the first such long period since we started. just not feeding half night has improved my energy levels, to say nothing of the extra sleep. cheers Jo At 7:46 +1000 23/3/04, megan davidson wrote: >I have noticed a few people say that their kids "happily moved to their own room", >and so I was wondering just how this happened. Was it adult or child initiated? Was >there anything that you did to make sure that they were comfortable/secure etc? Any >tips, advice or stories would be appreciated. >I must admit that I am not looking forward to that stage. >thanks, >megan. > >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Pinky McKay >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:11 PM >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children > >yep - it works!! but dont leave it where they can get it- we had a cat smeared in >vaseline once!! :) >pinky > >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Julie Garratt >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:52 PM >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children > >Apparently putting Vaseline on the door knob stops littlies from coming in to the >bedroom at inopportune moments LOL. > >Cheers, Julie Garratt a > >-Original Message- >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >Of Nicole Christensen >Sent: Sunday, 21 March 2004 10:45 PM >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children > >I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for sharing your experience. > >I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be >less zealous because of familiarity, our age or pure comfort. my guess with my >husband and I - is that our sex life is profoundly affected by exhaustion and SEVERE >sleep deprivation... and then marginally affected by the above factors also. >I know one thing... we wouldn't have to worry about being quiet... or checking for >the pitter patter of footsteps... peering eyes or the baby waking for a feed!!! >It's almost like we are back being teenagers again - not wanting to get >caught! > >kindest regards, >Nicole > >- Original Message - > >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Graham and Helen >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:47 PM >Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping and older children > >I have a personal experience to share about co-sleeping as a child. My father died >when I was four and I had 3 older brothers and sisters between the ages of 8 and 12. >I slept with Mum, without question, from the day that Dad died and continued to do so >most nights until I was about 15. Mum never ever had a relationship again which was >very sad and hopefully not because of me!!! I actually think Mum would have been >comforted by my being there (as was I). The others all stayed in their beds but soon >after...the oldest 2 (boys) were sent to boarding school as Mum thought they needed a >male influence...but that is another story. > >I certainly don't class myself to be clingy/dependent as I have lived away from home >and travelled extensively since I was 17 when I started nursing.I still do, >how
