Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-06 Thread pjwant
Dear Sally,

The person you really need to connect with regarding this entity is Marianne
Idle a wonderful homebirth midwife in Cairns. She has watched his
performances in court on a number of occasions, and challenged him on an
enormous number of issues. He has also caused her much pain in the past, I
dont know if they ever developed a close working relationship in recent
years. I do not have her phone number however someone else on the list may.

kind Regards

Jennie.
- Original Message -
From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 This does not sound very encouraging for the new head of obstetrics in
 WA :-(

 Sally Westbury

 Homebirth Midwife



 You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
 show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
 ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
 mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
 the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!

  from The Tao Te Ching


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pjwant
 Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 11:02 AM
 To: ozmidwifery
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

 Dear Sally,

 Whilst realising that this person may be your father, uncle, brother,
 lover
 or work colleague.you have entertained an open discussion which I am
 happy to discuss my feelings for this entity.

 In my personal experience, when this person enters a room an incredible
 feeling of darkness comes to my consciousness. It can be felt as a
 deathly
 kind of coldness. It makes me shudder when I feel it. I would have to
 say
 that I have not experienced such a feeling with anyone else to this day.
 I
 can only feel pity for this soul as the powerful darkness that engulfs
 him
 keeps him deeply unconscious to the love that emanates from spirits from
 the
 higher realms.

 When I was a student midwife it was interesting to watch the midwives on
 the
 unit flutter around him like bees to honey. Actually it was positively
 gross
 to see grown women fall around him and strike each other out for brownie
 points. His charm appears to be deadly to some women. Five of his
 ex-wives
 would probably tell a better story . I am not surprised that he shows
 little
 respect for most women. Their behaviour around him to date has been
 shamefully promiscuous. As donkey says to Shrek Stop and smell the
 phremones.  Im glad they never did anything for me. All I could liken
 the
 scene to was little Red Riding Hood and the big bad woof.

 May the grace of God save his soul or at least protect those that are
 forced
 to dwell in his company.

 Kind regards

 From a person who has sat quietly on the sidelines and watched his role
 as
 the chief circus clown in the obstetric arena at Cairns Base over a
 number
 of years.

 Keeping a respectful distance is the best advice I have to offer.


 - Original Message -
 From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


  I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book,
 it
  should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it
 should
  give you a taste.  marilyn
  - Original Message -
  From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
 
 
   Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
  
   Sally Westbury
  
   Homebirth Midwife
  
  
  
   You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good
 without
   show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you
 think
   ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
   mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is
 born,
   the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
  
from The Tao Te Ching
  
  
  
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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-06 Thread pjwant
Dear Leanne,

Firstly I dont think others are oblivious. Their just not talking.  On a
more serious note my perceptions relate to my own ability to perceive
different vibrational levels of energy. Similiar to the fourleggeds I guess.
It is not a conscious phenomena, it just presents itself in my brain out of
the blue so to speak. I have been accustomed to feeling these energy levels
for a number of years now which offers me great protection in my work
environment.

Irrespective of my own spirituality I know of several midwives who have felt
the same way, and have communicated this with me. However it is not for me
to disclose who they are. They can only speak for themselves. To talk ill of
someone does not sit well with my being either, however in this instance I
choose to disclose my truth as I feel it in order to protect my own kind
other midwives. I know of several midwives who have experienced great pain
when dealing with this shape shifter. It is this knowledge of their pain
that allows me to come out of the shaddows to offer a kindly warning to all
who have to work with this entity. In my experience His light is black;
there is only one truth and that is his as he sees it; its his way or the
highway. Maybe with age he has developed a wisdom similar to Michel Odent.
However I very much doubt it. I have been in Michel Odents energy field and
he is truely an enlightened being. These two men are poles apart. Everyday
before going to work I consciously say to the universe God I am grateful for
the protection you give me and the people under my care...I must confess I
attend great births, with women who are powerful and unmedicated.
I do not wish to instill fear into anyone just a healthy disrespect for the
type of energy that accompanies this particular being.

Kind regards Jennie.

- Original Message -
From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 I was fascinated by your description of this individual and your level of
 discernment. Why do you think you are able to sense this when others are
so
 obviously oblivious?






 From: pjwant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:02:02 +1000
 
 Dear Sally,
 
 Whilst realising that this person may be your father, uncle, brother,
lover
 or work colleague.you have entertained an open discussion which I am
 happy to discuss my feelings for this entity.
 
 In my personal experience, when this person enters a room an incredible
 feeling of darkness comes to my consciousness. It can be felt as a
deathly
 kind of coldness. It makes me shudder when I feel it. I would have to say
 that I have not experienced such a feeling with anyone else to this day.
I
 can only feel pity for this soul as the powerful darkness that engulfs
him
 keeps him deeply unconscious to the love that emanates from spirits from
 the
 higher realms.
 
 When I was a student midwife it was interesting to watch the midwives on
 the
 unit flutter around him like bees to honey. Actually it was positively
 gross
 to see grown women fall around him and strike each other out for brownie
 points. His charm appears to be deadly to some women. Five of his
ex-wives
 would probably tell a better story . I am not surprised that he shows
 little
 respect for most women. Their behaviour around him to date has been
 shamefully promiscuous. As donkey says to Shrek Stop and smell the
 phremones.  Im glad they never did anything for me. All I could liken
the
 scene to was little Red Riding Hood and the big bad woof.
 
 May the grace of God save his soul or at least protect those that are
 forced
 to dwell in his company.
 
 Kind regards
 
 From a person who has sat quietly on the sidelines and watched his role
as
 the chief circus clown in the obstetric arena at Cairns Base over a
number
 of years.
 
 Keeping a respectful distance is the best advice I have to offer.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
 
 
   I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book,
 it
   should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it
 should
   give you a taste.  marilyn
   - Original Message -
   From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM
   Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
  
  
Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
   
Sally Westbury
   
Homebirth Midwife
   
   
   
You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good
without
show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you
think
ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
mother is helped, yet still free

RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-06 Thread Robyn Thompson
YES!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ross W Timbs
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


Yes.  Why do you ask?

Jacky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
 
 Sally Westbury
 
 Homebirth Midwife
 
  
 
 You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
 show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
 ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
 mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
 the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
 
  from The Tao Te Ching
 
 
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-05 Thread pjwant
Dear Sally,

Whilst realising that this person may be your father, uncle, brother, lover
or work colleague.you have entertained an open discussion which I am
happy to discuss my feelings for this entity.

In my personal experience, when this person enters a room an incredible
feeling of darkness comes to my consciousness. It can be felt as a deathly
kind of coldness. It makes me shudder when I feel it. I would have to say
that I have not experienced such a feeling with anyone else to this day. I
can only feel pity for this soul as the powerful darkness that engulfs him
keeps him deeply unconscious to the love that emanates from spirits from the
higher realms.

When I was a student midwife it was interesting to watch the midwives on the
unit flutter around him like bees to honey. Actually it was positively gross
to see grown women fall around him and strike each other out for brownie
points. His charm appears to be deadly to some women. Five of his ex-wives
would probably tell a better story . I am not surprised that he shows little
respect for most women. Their behaviour around him to date has been
shamefully promiscuous. As donkey says to Shrek Stop and smell the
phremones.  Im glad they never did anything for me. All I could liken the
scene to was little Red Riding Hood and the big bad woof.

May the grace of God save his soul or at least protect those that are forced
to dwell in his company.

Kind regards

From a person who has sat quietly on the sidelines and watched his role as
the chief circus clown in the obstetric arena at Cairns Base over a number
of years.

Keeping a respectful distance is the best advice I have to offer.


- Original Message -
From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book, it
 should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it should
 give you a taste.  marilyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


  Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
 
  Sally Westbury
 
  Homebirth Midwife
 
 
 
  You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
  show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
  ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
  mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
  the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
 
   from The Tao Te Ching
 
 
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-05 Thread leanne wynne
I was fascinated by your description of this individual and your level of 
discernment. Why do you think you are able to sense this when others are so 
obviously oblivious?






From: pjwant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:02:02 +1000

Dear Sally,

Whilst realising that this person may be your father, uncle, brother, lover
or work colleague.you have entertained an open discussion which I am
happy to discuss my feelings for this entity.

In my personal experience, when this person enters a room an incredible
feeling of darkness comes to my consciousness. It can be felt as a deathly
kind of coldness. It makes me shudder when I feel it. I would have to say
that I have not experienced such a feeling with anyone else to this day. I
can only feel pity for this soul as the powerful darkness that engulfs him
keeps him deeply unconscious to the love that emanates from spirits from 
the
higher realms.

When I was a student midwife it was interesting to watch the midwives on 
the
unit flutter around him like bees to honey. Actually it was positively 
gross
to see grown women fall around him and strike each other out for brownie
points. His charm appears to be deadly to some women. Five of his ex-wives
would probably tell a better story . I am not surprised that he shows 
little
respect for most women. Their behaviour around him to date has been
shamefully promiscuous. As donkey says to Shrek Stop and smell the
phremones.  Im glad they never did anything for me. All I could liken the
scene to was little Red Riding Hood and the big bad woof.

May the grace of God save his soul or at least protect those that are 
forced
to dwell in his company.

Kind regards

From a person who has sat quietly on the sidelines and watched his role as
the chief circus clown in the obstetric arena at Cairns Base over a number
of years.

Keeping a respectful distance is the best advice I have to offer.


- Original Message -
From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book, 
it
 should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it 
should
 give you a taste.  marilyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


  Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
 
  Sally Westbury
 
  Homebirth Midwife
 
 
 
  You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
  show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
  ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
  mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
  the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
 
   from The Tao Te Ching
 
 
 
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RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-04 Thread Sally Westbury
Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??

Sally Westbury

Homebirth Midwife

 

You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!

 from The Tao Te Ching



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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-04 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book, it
should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it should
give you a taste.  marilyn
- Original Message -
From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??

 Sally Westbury

 Homebirth Midwife



 You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
 show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
 ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
 mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
 the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!

  from The Tao Te Ching



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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-04 Thread Ross W Timbs
Yes.  Why do you ask?

Jacky

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From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
 
 Sally Westbury
 
 Homebirth Midwife
 
  
 
 You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
 show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
 ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
 mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
 the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
 
  from The Tao Te Ching
 
 
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-04 Thread Ross W Timbs
Yes.  Why do you ask?

Jacky
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From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


 Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns??
 
 Sally Westbury
 
 Homebirth Midwife
 
  
 
 You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without
 show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think
 ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the
 mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born,
 the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves!
 
  from The Tao Te Ching
 
 
 
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RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-03 Thread Larry Megan
Had a read of the article and I think that She has splashed out £1800 to
hire independent midwife Deborah Purdue, one of the few experts who advocate
the practice. is money well spent, how many pounds is $5000 that the Ob
charges here(as posted last week). What exactly does the last comment mean,
these reporters need some education.

Megan


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Subject: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling


Wooohooo!
From the UK midwives list...
J K Rowling is planning to have a homebirth next month with an independent
midwife in the UK.
http://www.sundayherald.com/31121
I wonder if it will get as much publicity as Claudia's  Posh's C/S births?
Andrea

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Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling

2003-02-03 Thread DebSlater
$5000 is about 2000 pounds.

Debbie Slater
Perth, WA