RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Have looked after a baby in Melb. whose mum was isoimmunised after TOP(s) with no Anti D given-fortunately doesn't happen too often-Julianne. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:00 To: DOH_HUB.dgwia.[EMAIL PROTECTED]; DOH_HUB.dgwia.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage The discussion was referring to using anti d after miscarriage, in which case you aren't able to ascertain the baby's blood type. Cheers Helen - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage we only give anti d to NEG mums with a proven POS babe love Bethany -Original Message- From: Graham Helen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 20:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? Something to bare in mind apart from the curette issue.. Helen C - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of NSW Health.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
The discussion was referring to using anti d after miscarriage, in which case you aren't able to ascertain the baby's blood type. Cheers Helen - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage we only give anti d to NEG mums with a proven POS babe love Bethany -Original Message- From: Graham Helen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 20:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? Something to bare in mind apart from the curette issue.. Helen C - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
we only give anti d to NEG mums with a proven POS babe love Bethany -Original Message- From: Graham Helen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 20:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? Something to bare in mind apart from the curette issue.. Helen C - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Hi, You should check out this sight www.ashermans.org it is a sight set up by women that have been made infertile in the main by DC's. Lesia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Me too! I have 8 miscarriages, one with a DC only because of bleeding problems...felt much better just being in my own environment, felling the loss, and trusting my body to do the job! Denise Love Birth Central - 02 9399 5854 LifeOptions - The Centre for LifeLong Learning Doula Express www.e-lifeoptions.com - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Hi Megan There is a chance of the mother developing antibodies(iso-immunization) against the baby in that and / or subsequent pregnancies. An injection of Anti-D can stop this happening but that is why it is important to at least be seen by a doctor after miscarriage, rather than just letting nature take it's course and staying home.If you didn't know your blood group at that time, they would test it and you should have the result within the time frame for receiving the Anti-D i.e. 72 hours. This is the treatment I am used to anyway... Correct me if i'm wrong anyone out there..I am sure you will!! Helen - Original Message - From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage how would a first time mum know if she was or not, especially if she didn't seek medical treatment, and what woul dthe implications of that be? just wondering, Megan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 28 July 2003 11:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage All Rh Neg women who have a miscarriage with or without a DC, have anti D given. Cheers, MM -- Original Message - What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Megan, Having had four miscarriages, and being a positive blood group, nature does cope with these things well. When I had my first mis/c after trying for 18months to even fall pregnant, I was a pretty stressed and ended up seeing an ob/gyn (for my first and hopefully last time ever) who might I say was a really pleasant chap - and pretty good on non-intervention. He told me that he wouldn't consider doing a DC until 10/40 or later gestation; or if there was continued vaginal loss, infection etc. The advice was pretty much - go home, rest, take some iron tablets, and I was surprised that he told me that to bleed/spot for weeks afterwards was quite OK as long as no offensive discharge/ fever etc. This was 5 years ago. Needless to say, for the next three mis/c's I just took a sickie and stayed at home!! Cheryl From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:11:46 +0930 What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? Cheers Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Women should be made aware of the risks of 'nicking' the uterus during a curette and the impact that can have on future births. One of the other main causes of uterine rupture during labour is a uterus that has been damaged in the past; OTHER than a cs. Out of interestdoes the system treat a woman with a previous curette as a possible rupture like they do vbacs? Afterall, who can tell if a 'nick' has occurred anyway? Probably should refrain from pointing those things out as it could be reasons enough to insist all women with curette history to have a cs for all future births. Sorry...feeling a little pissed at the vbac crap at the moment. Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? Something to bare in mind apart from the curette issue.. Helen C - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
That's an interesting one Jo, one of the women we birthed with last year had a large ovarian cyst that required emerg surgery a few months after the birth, and they went to lengths to discuss that they had accidentally nicked the uterus during surgery, but that it would have NO impact on her future childbearing potential, and would not influence in any way her ability to have future vaginal births. (Also stated that they chose to tell her out of courtesy, and that if they hadn't mentioned it, she would never had known.h, engenders trust in the medical system and their moral and ethical integrity, NOT!). Cheers Tania - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage Women should be made aware of the risks of 'nicking' the uterus during a curette and the impact that can have on future births. One of the other main causes of uterine rupture during labour is a uterus that has been damaged in the past; OTHER than a cs. Out of interestdoes the system treat a woman with a previous curette as a possible rupture like they do vbacs? Afterall, who can tell if a 'nick' has occurred anyway? Probably should refrain from pointing those things out as it could be reasons enough to insist all women with curette history to have a cs for all future births. Sorry...feeling a little pissed at the vbac crap at the moment. Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage I think nature does its job well - I hear too many stories of women having a curette after mc and then lots of related health problems. I've had 3 mc's, have never gone near a doctor and have healed very quickly each time. Jayne What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
All Rh Neg women who have a miscarriage with or without a DC, have anti D given. Cheers, MM -- Original Message - What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
Thanks for the responses, would these ideas go along with a blighted ovum as well, the suggestion was that leaving it would cause adhesions to form etc, true or what? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Megan Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 12:12 To: ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage What are peoples thoughts on having a curette after a miscarriage? I didn't involve the medico's, just my midwife so we just let nature take its course. However many I hear who go to hospital, have one as recommended. I guess there are medical indications for having one, but is it just a routine procedure? Cheers Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage
how would a first time mum know if she was or not, especially if she didn't seek medical treatment, and what woul dthe implications of that be? just wondering, Megan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 28 July 2003 11:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage All Rh Neg women who have a miscarriage with or without a DC, have anti D given. Cheers, MM -- Original Message - What about the need for anti D for those Mums who are RH negative? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
