Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes

2006-10-14 Thread Janet Fraser



Why not start a yahoo group for 
Finnish MWs, Paivi? It's free and it comes in all languages. How excellent would 
that be?! I'm a big believer in starting your own group if it's needed. I can 
guarantee that if you feel a lack, so do others. Go for it!
J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Päivi 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:48 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes
  
  Just a quick noteto all of you, before I 
  run of to work.
  
  Two days ago I went to the Finnish Midwives 
  meeting, where a hospital midwife gave a speach. She described what it was 
  like to care for women twenty years ago, or even ten years ago, when they gave 
  birth on their own empowered. She also described the seem in the today's 
  hospitals with women wanting all possible drugs at the doorstep. It must be 
  hard to work in those circumstances. But what made me really sad is, that 
  thisparticular midwife had lost her hope for things ever changing. She 
  seemed to have accepted, that time had changed things, and there is no going 
  back anymore. When I got home I wrote to her and told about this list, how 
  every day I read your encouraging commets and stories of women giving birth on 
  their own every day in today's world. How that inspires me to beleive, that I 
  can still change things around in my country an tomorrow can be better, than 
  today. I received a reply from her. My letter to her had made her very happy, 
  because she saw, that there was someone, who has the energy to beleive in the 
  better future, to try to fight the system, to inform the parents and inspire. 
  Obviously she hadn't sensed this for years. We don't have a single forum like 
  this in my country, there are no homebirth conferences or such to attend. 
  Simply there is very little change for these midwives around the country to 
  support each other in their common goal; to provide women with evidence based 
  practise.
  
  I think this list is the best, because I always 
  get an onest opinion of what happens, when midwives don't give in to the 
  policies, and work independently. And also how things can be done even in the 
  high-risk hospital. You are the Best!
  
  Gotta go now,
  
  Don't leave sadie =)
  
  Päivi
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
adamnamy 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:04 
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes


I too appreciate 
the variety of input from all contributors. Things get a bit heated 
but that’s life at the coalface. Our biggest challenge is not each other but 
an attitude that says women can’t be in charge of their own bodies and make 
their own decisions. Let’s not lose sight of that goal and get 
personal. We all do our bit, the bit that we can do. And always, 
it will vary according to our strengths and 
weaknesses.

It would be a real 
shame to lose either of you. As a non midwife, I really appreciate the expertise and 
the perspectives that midwives working in various settings bring to the 
discussions. We need to know what we are up against…so be honest about 
the challenges you face, because they become ours pretty 
quickly.

In gratitude for 
your dedication,

amy





Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes

2006-10-14 Thread diane



Thank You Paivi,
Your letter is quite humbling. It should make us 
feel ashamed of our bickering. There is a far bigger picture than the snap shot 
we see every day, and our little philosophical differences. WE do make a 
difference, We have made a difference, and we will continue to do so. It is this 
list that gives me the strength and hope to keep chipping away at the coalface. 
I feel far less alone and radical when you are all out there doing the hard work 
too. This is more than a job for allof us, it is a calling. Some can do 
more than others, some do differently than others, the important thing is WE DO! 

Di



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Päivi 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:48 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes
  
  Just a quick noteto all of you, before I 
  run of to work.
  
  Two days ago I went to the Finnish Midwives 
  meeting, where a hospital midwife gave a speach. She described what it was 
  like to care for women twenty years ago, or even ten years ago, when they gave 
  birth on their own empowered. She also described the seem in the today's 
  hospitals with women wanting all possible drugs at the doorstep. It must be 
  hard to work in those circumstances. But what made me really sad is, that 
  thisparticular midwife had lost her hope for things ever changing. She 
  seemed to have accepted, that time had changed things, and there is no going 
  back anymore. When I got home I wrote to her and told about this list, how 
  every day I read your encouraging commets and stories of women giving birth on 
  their own every day in today's world. How that inspires me to beleive, that I 
  can still change things around in my country an tomorrow can be better, than 
  today. I received a reply from her. My letter to her had made her very happy, 
  because she saw, that there was someone, who has the energy to beleive in the 
  better future, to try to fight the system, to inform the parents and inspire. 
  Obviously she hadn't sensed this for years. We don't have a single forum like 
  this in my country, there are no homebirth conferences or such to attend. 
  Simply there is very little change for these midwives around the country to 
  support each other in their common goal; to provide women with evidence based 
  practise.
  
  I think this list is the best, because I always 
  get an onest opinion of what happens, when midwives don't give in to the 
  policies, and work independently. And also how things can be done even in the 
  high-risk hospital. You are the Best!
  
  Gotta go now,
  
  Don't leave sadie =)
  
  Päivi
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
adamnamy 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:04 
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes


I too appreciate 
the variety of input from all contributors. Things get a bit heated 
but that’s life at the coalface. Our biggest challenge is not each other but 
an attitude that says women can’t be in charge of their own bodies and make 
their own decisions. Let’s not lose sight of that goal and get 
personal. We all do our bit, the bit that we can do. And always, 
it will vary according to our strengths and 
weaknesses.

It would be a real 
shame to lose either of you. As a non midwife, I really appreciate the expertise and 
the perspectives that midwives working in various settings bring to the 
discussions. We need to know what we are up against…so be honest about 
the challenges you face, because they become ours pretty 
quickly.

In gratitude for 
your dedication,

amy





Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes

2006-10-13 Thread Päivi



Just a quick noteto all of you, before I run 
of to work.

Two days ago I went to the Finnish Midwives 
meeting, where a hospital midwife gave a speach. She described what it was like 
to care for women twenty years ago, or even ten years ago, when they gave birth 
on their own empowered. She also described the seem in the today's hospitals 
with women wanting all possible drugs at the doorstep. It must be hard to work 
in those circumstances. But what made me really sad is, that 
thisparticular midwife had lost her hope for things ever changing. She 
seemed to have accepted, that time had changed things, and there is no going 
back anymore. When I got home I wrote to her and told about this list, how every 
day I read your encouraging commets and stories of women giving birth on their 
own every day in today's world. How that inspires me to beleive, that I can 
still change things around in my country an tomorrow can be better, than today. 
I received a reply from her. My letter to her had made her very happy, because 
she saw, that there was someone, who has the energy to beleive in the better 
future, to try to fight the system, to inform the parents and inspire. Obviously 
she hadn't sensed this for years. We don't have a single forum like this in my 
country, there are no homebirth conferences or such to attend. Simply there is 
very little change for these midwives around the country to support each other 
in their common goal; to provide women with evidence based 
practise.

I think this list is the best, because I always get 
an onest opinion of what happens, when midwives don't give in to the policies, 
and work independently. And also how things can be done even in the high-risk 
hospital. You are the Best!

Gotta go now,

Don't leave sadie =)

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  adamnamy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:04 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes
  
  
  I too appreciate the 
  variety of input from all contributors. Things get a bit heated but 
  that’s life at the coalface. Our biggest challenge is not each other but an 
  attitude that says women can’t be in charge of their own bodies and make their 
  own decisions. Let’s not lose sight of that goal and get personal. 
  We all do our bit, the bit that we can do. And always, it will vary 
  according to our strengths and weaknesses.
  
  It would be a real 
  shame to lose either of you. As a non midwife, I really appreciate the expertise and the 
  perspectives that midwives working in various settings bring to the 
  discussions. We need to know what we are up against…so be honest about 
  the challenges you face, because they become ours pretty 
  quickly.
  
  In gratitude for your 
  dedication,
  
  amy