Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro...

[brendamanning]

HI Mel,
Congratulations 
!
I think the best piece of 
advice I was offered as a new midwife was:
'Assume everything 
is normal until proven otherwise'
 
Worked for me ! I also 
sat on my hands & watched alot !!
 
With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mel 
  Zilembo 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:01 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro...
  
  Hi 
  Everyone,
   
  My name is Mel and 
  I have just started my post grad mid in WA.  I'm a keen ozmid reader and 
  have read all the debates with great interest over the last few years.  
  Am very excited (but a little nervous) about the year ahead, so all tips for 
  survival in a big hospital are gladly taken!!
   
  Am looking forward 
  to chatting and exchanging info with you all.
   
  Cheers
  Mel

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Jennifairy]

I just wanted to write to say "thank you" Gloria for these wise words. 
Your views on the 'inner need for a big story' really resonated with me 
& have made me think about how we (& I include myself in this!) either 
allow or encourage situations to play out to fulfill this need & yes 
birth is amazing & wonderful & exciting & awesome, & in some ways an 
'extreme' experience, but also just as much mundane, ordinary, 
common-place & just part of 'daily life' & you see this 
'ordinary-ness' much more at home than in hospital I think (well that is 
my experience anyway). its got me to wondering how much the 
perceptions women hold around birth are culturally defined, & how big a 
role TV & other 'entertainment media' has played in this 'drama of 
birth' thing for women, & midwives, & other health professionals 
involved in maternity care. definitely our expectations have 
changed, both as consumers & carers... & whether women experience birth 
in hospital as 'ordinary' to start with...
just thinking out loud...
jennifairy
independant midwife in south australia
(so good to finally write that!)

Gloria Lemay wrote:
I've just joined the list and live in Vancouver, BC Canada.  Some of 
you know me from articles I've written for Midwifery Today Magazine or 
just from being a generally uppity, brazen woman. 
 
Lieve told me you were discussing the "drama in birth" thread and I 
have read the posts with interest.  It's so elusive, isn't it, trying 
to describe what birth "is".  It's very paradoxical a rites of 
passage, yet an ordinary day
profound and spiritual yet down and dirty
complex yet so simple
intimate yet lonely and solitary
painful yet pleasurable
a huge accomplishment yet not of our doing
 
Just when I think I know something about birth, something proves I 
know nothing once again.  What a fun profession to be in.   I would 
hope that introducing the lens of "drama" to examining birth would 
lead not so much to pointing fingers of blame for what's wrong with 
birth but, rather, to each player owning their own need for drama and 
lightening up a bit about it.  When I had my last baby, I learned a 
technique for "disappearing" pain and used it all through the birth 
process.  I only had about 5 minutes when I thought "Gloria, you 
idiot, you knew it would feel like this, why are you here again?!"   
As soon as the baby was out, I had this huge wave of regret. . . . .I 
had had a painless birth and had no story to tell, oh dear.  I 
realized what an idiot I was, of course.  Who in their right mind 
would want a dramatic story over a smooth birth??  I share that story 
with other women so they can take a look at the inner need for a big 
story in their own lives.  When we get these things out of the closet 
and into the light of day, we become more powerful.  The only demons 
that control us are the ones within.
 
As a birth attendant, too, I can see that I have a need to be a 
"saviour" and a 'hero" instead of a fly on the wall.  Dramatic births 
are food for the insatiable ego.  Learning to love the simple, silent 
arrivals with only a flickering, fleeting glance of gratitude from the 
woman transformed into mother. . . that is the quest of our spirits. 
 
I look forward to getting to know you on this list.  Gloria Lemay, 
Vancouver, BC Canada
 


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Gloria Lemay]

No worries, Mary.  How it all ended is that 
they put me in prison for 2 months for criminal contempt of court.  Strange 
because I had a civil injunction and was never even arrested.  This meant 
that the charges against me were never firm and it was like trying to hit a 
moving target with my defense.  I went to prison proudly and had an amazing 
experience.  Met many "angels" within and received many blessings.  
Don't want to go back but am prepared to at any time.  There are ongoing 
"investigations" and I conduct myself very carefully within the bounds of my 
injunction.  I am allowed to attend births, allowed to earn money, allowed 
to teach midwifery AND I'm not allowed to call myself a midwife, do pelvics, 
suture, or "manage" deliveries.  This means a very hands off approach 
working for people who really want an unassisted birth---it's very lovely 
actually.  I'm seeing birth as it would be in more simple times.  
Thank you for asking abut me, thank you for keeping the faith all you Aussies 
who have supported me, and thank you for doing the work you do.  I have 
heard that the brazen bunch is on this list.  Love Gloria

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mary 
  Murphy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Intro
  
  
  Hi Gloria, welcome to 
  the discussion list.  I have to admit I deliberately introduced this 
  thread to get people to express their thoughts about where we are as 
  individuals in this drama that is life.  I never thought it would tempt 
  you to join us!.  We are a brazen lot on this list too!  I remember 
  reading some time ago (?2 yrs) that you tangled with the authorities in regard 
  to your midwifery practice. Is it “over”?  How did it all end? If you 
  prefer not to share this with us, then of course tell me to mind my own 
  business.  We often hear from contacts in the U.S and Canada about 
  midwives being persecuted, but we rarely find out how it all ended.  Best 
  wishes. Mary Murphy.
  
  
  
  

RE: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Mary Murphy]

Hi Gloria, welcome to the discussion
list.  I have to admit I deliberately introduced this thread to get people to
express their thoughts about where we are as individuals in this drama that is
life.  I never thought it would tempt you to join us!.  We are a brazen lot on
this list too!  I remember reading some time ago (?2 yrs) that you tangled with
the authorities in regard to your midwifery practice. Is it “over”? 
How did it all end? If you prefer not to share this with us, then of course
tell me to mind my own business.  We often hear from contacts in the U.S and Canada about
midwives being persecuted, but we rarely find out how it all ended.  Best
wishes. Mary Murphy.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Callum & Kirsten Wooster]

Welcome Gloria!
 
Kirsten
BMid student midwife
Darwin
 
 
From: Gloria Lemay 

  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:04 PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro
  
  I've just joined the list and live in Vancouver, 
  BC Canada.  Some of you know me from articles I've written for Midwifery 
  Today Magazine or just from being a generally uppity, brazen woman.  
  
   
  Lieve told me you were discussing the "drama in 
  birth" thread and I have read the posts with interest.  It's so elusive, 
  isn't it, trying to describe what birth "is".  It's very paradoxical 
  a rites of passage, yet an ordinary day
  profound and spiritual yet down and 
  dirty
  complex yet so simple
  intimate yet lonely and solitary
  painful yet pleasurable
  a huge accomplishment yet not of our 
  doing
   
  Just when I think I know something about birth, 
  something proves I know nothing once again.  What a fun profession 
  to be in.   I would hope that introducing the lens of "drama" to 
  examining birth would lead not so much to pointing fingers of blame for what's 
  wrong with birth but, rather, to each player owning their own need for drama 
  and lightening up a bit about it.  When I had my last baby, I 
  learned a technique for "disappearing" pain and used it all through the birth 
  process.  I only had about 5 minutes when I thought "Gloria, you idiot, 
  you knew it would feel like this, why are you here again?!"   As 
  soon as the baby was out, I had this huge wave of regret. . . . .I had had a 
  painless birth and had no story to tell, oh dear.  I realized what an 
  idiot I was, of course.  Who in their right mind would want a dramatic 
  story over a smooth birth??  I share that story with other women so they 
  can take a look at the inner need for a big story in their own lives.  
  When we get these things out of the closet and into the light of day, we 
  become more powerful.  The only demons that control us are the ones 
  within.
   
  As a birth attendant, too, I can see that I have 
  a need to be a "saviour" and a 'hero" instead of a fly on the wall.  
  Dramatic births are food for the insatiable ego.  Learning to love the 
  simple, silent arrivals with only a flickering, fleeting glance of 
  gratitude from the woman transformed into mother. . . that is the quest of our 
  spirits.  
   
  I look forward to getting to know you on this 
  list.  Gloria Lemay, Vancouver, BC Canada
   

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Ceri & Katrina]

Welcome to the list Gloria. :-)

On 16/05/2005, at 1:34 PM, Gloria Lemay wrote:

I've just joined the list and live in Vancouver, BC Canada.  Some of you know me from articles I've written for Midwifery Today Magazine or just from being a generally uppity, brazen woman. 
 
Lieve told me you were discussing the "drama in birth" thread and I have read the posts with interest.  It's so elusive, isn't it, trying to describe what birth "is".  It's very paradoxical a rites of passage, yet an ordinary day
profound and spiritual yet down and dirty
complex yet so simple
intimate yet lonely and solitary
painful yet pleasurable
a huge accomplishment yet not of our doing
 
Just when I think I know something about birth, something proves I know nothing once again.  What a fun profession to be in.   I would hope that introducing the lens of "drama" to examining birth would lead not so much to pointing fingers of blame for what's wrong with birth but, rather, to each player owning their own need for drama and lightening up a bit about it.  When I had my last baby, I learned a technique for "disappearing" pain and used it all through the birth process.  I only had about 5 minutes when I thought "Gloria, you idiot, you knew it would feel like this, why are you here again?!"   As soon as the baby was out, I had this huge wave of regret. . . . .I had had a painless birth and had no story to tell, oh dear.  I realized what an idiot I was, of course.  Who in their right mind would want a dramatic story over a smooth birth??  I share that story with other women so they can take a look at the inner need for a big story in their own lives.  When we get these things out of the closet and into the light of day, we become more powerful.  The only demons that control us are the ones within.
 
As a birth attendant, too, I can see that I have a need to be a "saviour" and a 'hero" instead of a fly on the wall.  Dramatic births are food for the insatiable ego.  Learning to love the simple, silent arrivals with only a flickering, fleeting glance of gratitude from the woman transformed into mother. . . that is the quest of our spirits. 
 
I look forward to getting to know you on this list.  Gloria Lemay, Vancouver, BC Canada
 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Liz Newnham]

Hi Jennifairy,
welcome  back to the list and congrats on finishing your mid.  Milly said
she's told you how jealous we are about your apprenticeship. I searched
around for someone to take me on in that capacity after I graduated but
no-one was willing at the time. Anyway, enjoy. No doubt will see you around
the traps. I'm due in 5 weeks with my 4th baby.
Cheers, Liz.
- Original Message -
From: Jennifairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro


> Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list for
> the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study tended to
> take over my life & keeping up with the volume of mail from here was
> just too much!
> Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first
> cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with a
> MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying my
> life now that Im not under the study thumb!
> Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, & in the market for a
> waterproof doppler. What Im asking for from you gals (& maybe guys) is
> what you use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs
> in the hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out
> there & wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs are
> currently around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right decision! I
> havent started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big buy for me. Ive
> managed to find forcep clamps & a fabulous digital fishing scale for
> baby weighing on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay groupie now that I have
> the time), but if anyone has ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id
> be really happy to hear from you (for eg, where do I get wooden
> pinards?). I need everything!
> cheers & thanx in advance
> Jennifairy
> RM!!
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Andrea Quanchi]

Congratulations
I have a Huntleigh and have been very happy with it. Bargain them down 
esp if you can buy a few with other people. I played two reps off till 
one pulled out and got mine quite a bit lower than the first quoted 
price. Dont forget also that it can be depreciated on tax over a few 
years.
Andrea Quanchi
On 07/03/2005, at 7:44 PM, Jennifairy wrote:

Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list 
for the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study 
tended to take over my life & keeping up with the volume of mail from 
here was just too much!
Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first 
cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with 
a MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying 
my life now that Im not under the study thumb!
Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, & in the market for a 
waterproof doppler. What Im asking for from you gals (& maybe guys) is 
what you use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs 
in the hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out 
there & wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs 
are currently around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right 
decision! I havent started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big 
buy for me. Ive managed to find forcep clamps & a fabulous digital 
fishing scale for baby weighing on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay 
groupie now that I have the time), but if anyone has 
ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id be really happy to hear from you 
(for eg, where do I get wooden pinards?). I need everything!
cheers & thanx in advance
Jennifairy
RM!!
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Jan Robinson]

Hi Jenni

Welcome to the world of independent midwifery.  You can usually pick up good deals on most of the items you have mentioned if you attend the Trade and Education exhibitors at the State, National and International ACMI Conferences. If you are going to Brisbane to the ICM in July you will get some great prices there, especially if you utilise the buying power of a group of like-minded individuals.  Often the prices on Dopplers are reduced for Conference buyers and a further discount is provided if two or three of you buy together.

Another tack is to start attending meetings of the local IPMs and ask them who they buy from - someone may even have some second-hand home birth equipment for sale.

Yours in independent midwifery
Jan
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
National Coordinator  Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent   South Hurstville   NSW   2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
On 7 Mar, 2005, at 19:44, Jennifairy wrote:

Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list for the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study tended to take over my life & keeping up with the volume of mail from here was just too much!
Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with a MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying my life now that Im not under the study thumb!
Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, & in the market for a waterproof doppler. What Im asking for from you gals (& maybe guys) is what you use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs in the hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out there & wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs are currently around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right decision! I havent started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big buy for me. Ive managed to find forcep clamps & a fabulous digital fishing scale for baby weighing on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay groupie now that I have the time), but if anyone has ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id be really happy to hear from you (for eg, where do I get wooden pinards?). I need everything!
cheers & thanx in advance
Jennifairy
RM!!
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Andrea Robertson]

Welcome back Jennifairy!
Can't help you with the doppler, but we do have wooden Pinards in two sizes
Here they are:  http://www.acegraphics.com.au/product/equip/be009.html
Best wishes with your midwifery!
Andrea

At 07:44 PM 7/03/2005, you wrote:
Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list for 
the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study tended to 
take over my life & keeping up with the volume of mail from here was just 
too much!
Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first 
cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with a 
MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying my life 
now that Im not under the study thumb!
Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, & in the market for a waterproof 
doppler. What Im asking for from you gals (& maybe guys) is what you 
use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs in the 
hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out there & 
wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs are currently 
around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right decision! I havent 
started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big buy for me. Ive managed 
to find forcep clamps & a fabulous digital fishing scale for baby weighing 
on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay groupie now that I have the time), 
but if anyone has ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id be really happy to 
hear from you (for eg, where do I get wooden pinards?). I need everything!
cheers & thanx in advance
Jennifairy
RM!!
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro

[Tania Smallwood]

Hi Jennifairy!

Great to have you back on list...

Wendy and I use a doppler we got from Cottman's surgical supplies in
Adelaide, it's waterproof, has a long straight cord to the probe, and hasn't
missed a beat (pardon the pun) for over 3 years now.  Can't remember what
brand it is, and have just remembered that someone else on list asked about
this a little while ago and I was up to my armpits in it, so didn't
respond - sorry :)  We dealt with a lovely bloke called Andrew, not sure if
he's still there, but worth a try.  They have lots of other stuff too.

I have a wooden and plastic pinard, and to be honest, prefer the plastic one
sadly.  The wooden one just doesn't conduct the sound as well, but got them
both from Birth International I think, although most of the surgical
supplies places have the placcie ones for under $10.

Not sure what you do about cord clamps, but I make ours, just plait some
embroidery ties and bake them for an hour on 100C.  That's one less thing to
buy.

Hope this helps!

Tania



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From: "Jennifairy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:44 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro


> Hi all, just a short (hopefully!) intro. Ive been away from the list for
> the last 2 or 3 years whilst doing my BMid here in SA - study tended to
> take over my life & keeping up with the volume of mail from here was
> just too much!
> Anyways, Im finished/registered/the 'real deal' now, a RM of the first
> cohort of 'direct entry' midwives in Australia, now apprenticing with a
> MIPP on my way to fulfilling 'the dream' and *really* enjoying my
> life now that Im not under the study thumb!
> Im madly trying to get my 'kit' together, & in the market for a
> waterproof doppler. What Im asking for from you gals (& maybe guys) is
> what you use/would recommend brand-wise. Ive only ever used Huntleighs
> in the hospitals Ive done placements at, but there are some others out
> there & wondering if anybody can 'give me the goss' - the Huntleighs are
> currently around $900+ so I need to know Im making the right decision! I
> havent started earning 'real money' yet so this is a big buy for me. Ive
> managed to find forcep clamps & a fabulous digital fishing scale for
> baby weighing on EBay (yeah, Ive become an EBay groupie now that I have
> the time), but if anyone has ideas/contacts etc for other stuff Id
> be really happy to hear from you (for eg, where do I get wooden
> pinards?). I need everything!
> cheers & thanx in advance
> Jennifairy
> RM!!
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Lynne Staff]

No Carole your age isn't a problem! You might ask 
the midwives at the hospital - if there is a local homebirth miwife, they should 
know. 
 
I am on the Sunshine Coast - too far away. There 
may be a midwife out Ipswich way who could help
Congratulations on this pregnancy, and I hope you 
find what you are looking for in this birth.
Regards, Lynne

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carole 
  Claxton 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:52 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro & 
  Question
  
  Hello again!
  I'm saying again because I used to be a member of this list a couple of 
  years ago while doing my Master of Midwifery.   I unsubscribed due 
  to huge computer problems & because once I qualified I was unable to get 
  work in the maternity area...just as a casual which was few & far 
  between!
   
  Anyway,  about me.  I'm Carole Claxton..42years old & a 
  Registered Nurse/Midwife.  For the past year I've been working part-time 
  in a nursing home while being oncall for maternity work at the Base 
  hospital.  As from next week, I do have a 6 month contract for part-time 
  work in Special Care Nursery.  That I'm excited about but also nervous as 
  I feel I have forgotten everything I learnt!
   
  I 
  have 4 children,  1 of whom no longer lives at home & I have recently 
  discovered that I am pregnant,  with what my Mum calls a "whoopsie" 
  baby!  Which leads me to my question!  I have always wanted a 
  homebirth but was always talked out of them previously by my husband (who is 
  not around this time),  and not because of any medical 
  reasons.   My GP isn't keen on the idea because of my age!!  
  But I'd still like to consider the option & get as much info as I 
  can.   So,  is there a homebirth midwife in or near 
  Toowoomba?   What are the costs involved?  Is my age a negative 
  factor?
   
  Thanks for any info you can give me & I look forward to being a 
  part of this list again!
   
  Carole

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Pinky McKay]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question



Hi Justine 
This is why NMAP is vital - so we can all have the 
option of our own midwife and whatever birthplace we choose  - it 
simply wasnt financially possible for me at the time. 
 
Pinky

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Justine Caines 
  To: OzMid List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & 
  Question
  
  I too had a bonus baby -sorry cant 
give any advice on birth place but was told all manner of scary things re 
risks - a short labour -i was already in a hospital ward - labour stopped 
the night before on arrival as they put in an IV bung -just in case. This 
time, I laboured quietly in the dark before telling anyone -then asked if I 
could go to "delivery" and shower as I was now in labour and had just had a 
bowel motion and show, so went into shower and stayed there as they assumed 
my labour had just started. I came out when my husband and daughter arrived 
and I was in transition - no time for IVs or VEs or anything else - lovely 
birth with ten year old watching over the midwife's 
shoulder.Gee PinkyIsn't this why homebirth is so attractive? 
   No need to dodge the VE etc.  Homebirth is about birth on a woman’s 
  terms, no complying with protocols that are not based on evidence or fitting 
  in with organisational needs!!Hello CarolUnless your age 
  creates an obstetric condition, it doesn’t matter!  Age itself is not a 
  condition no matter how much they scare you!! I would think your body is 
  saying it is doing quite OK by getting pregnant!  Good Luck finding a 
  midwife and remember GP’s are generalists, midwives are experts in normal (and 
  beautiful birth).  Homebirth midwives who are not constrained by the 
  system see a lot more normal, sad but true.Trust your instinct and you 
  will birth beautifully.Justine CainesHomebirth Mum to Ruby 3, 
  Clancy 2 and William 8 monthsand co-ordinator of Homebirth 
  Australia 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Justine Caines]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question



 
 I too had a bonus baby -sorry cant give any advice on birth place but was told all manner of scary things re risks - a short labour -i was already in a hospital ward - labour stopped the night before on arrival as they put in an IV bung -just in case. This time, I laboured quietly in the dark before telling anyone -then asked if I could go to "delivery" and shower as I was now in labour and had just had a bowel motion and show, so went into shower and stayed there as they assumed my labour had just started. I came out when my husband and daughter arrived and I was in transition - no time for IVs or VEs or anything else - lovely birth with ten year old watching over the midwife's shoulder.
 
Gee Pinky

Isn't this why homebirth is so attractive?  No need to dodge the VE etc.  Homebirth is about birth on a woman’s terms, no complying with protocols that are not based on evidence or fitting in with organisational needs!!

Hello Carol

Unless your age creates an obstetric condition, it doesn’t matter!  Age itself is not a condition no matter how much they scare you!! I would think your body is saying it is doing quite OK by getting pregnant!  Good Luck finding a midwife and remember GP’s are generalists, midwives are experts in normal (and beautiful birth).  Homebirth midwives who are not constrained by the system see a lot more normal, sad but true.

Trust your instinct and you will birth beautifully.

Justine Caines

Homebirth Mum to Ruby 3, Clancy 2 and William 8 months

and co-ordinator of Homebirth Australia

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Marilyn Kleidon]

Carole: I do know of a midwife in the 
Toowoomba area, not sure if she is on this list though. I'll send you her name 
off list.
marilyn

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carole 
  Claxton 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:52 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro & 
  Question
  
  Hello again!
  I'm saying again because I used to be a member of this list a couple of 
  years ago while doing my Master of Midwifery.   I unsubscribed due 
  to huge computer problems & because once I qualified I was unable to get 
  work in the maternity area...just as a casual which was few & far 
  between!
   
  Anyway,  about me.  I'm Carole Claxton..42years old & a 
  Registered Nurse/Midwife.  For the past year I've been working part-time 
  in a nursing home while being oncall for maternity work at the Base 
  hospital.  As from next week, I do have a 6 month contract for part-time 
  work in Special Care Nursery.  That I'm excited about but also nervous as 
  I feel I have forgotten everything I learnt!
   
  I 
  have 4 children,  1 of whom no longer lives at home & I have recently 
  discovered that I am pregnant,  with what my Mum calls a "whoopsie" 
  baby!  Which leads me to my question!  I have always wanted a 
  homebirth but was always talked out of them previously by my husband (who is 
  not around this time),  and not because of any medical 
  reasons.   My GP isn't keen on the idea because of my age!!  
  But I'd still like to consider the option & get as much info as I 
  can.   So,  is there a homebirth midwife in or near 
  Toowoomba?   What are the costs involved?  Is my age a negative 
  factor?
   
  Thanks for any info you can give me & I look forward to being a 
  part of this list again!
   
  Carole

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Pinky McKay]

Hi Carole, congratulations!!
 
 I too had a bonus baby -sorry cant give any 
advice on birth place but was told all manner of scary things re risks - a short 
labour -i was already in a hospital ward - labour stopped the night 
before on arrival as they put in an IV bung -just in case. This time, 
I laboured quietly in the dark before telling anyone -then asked if I could 
go to "delivery" and shower as I was now in labour and had just had a bowel 
motion and show, so went into shower and stayed there as they assumed my 
labour had just started. I came out when my husband and daughter arrived and I 
was in transition - no time for IVs or VEs or anything else - lovely birth 
with ten year old watching over the midwife's shoulder.
 
 Enjoy, these "bonus babes" are a real 
bonus!!!
 
Pinky

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carole 
  Claxton 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:52 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Intro & 
  Question
  
  Hello again!
  I'm saying again because I used to be a member of this list a couple of 
  years ago while doing my Master of Midwifery.   I unsubscribed due 
  to huge computer problems & because once I qualified I was unable to get 
  work in the maternity area...just as a casual which was few & far 
  between!
   
  Anyway,  about me.  I'm Carole Claxton..42years old & a 
  Registered Nurse/Midwife.  For the past year I've been working part-time 
  in a nursing home while being oncall for maternity work at the Base 
  hospital.  As from next week, I do have a 6 month contract for part-time 
  work in Special Care Nursery.  That I'm excited about but also nervous as 
  I feel I have forgotten everything I learnt!
   
  I 
  have 4 children,  1 of whom no longer lives at home & I have recently 
  discovered that I am pregnant,  with what my Mum calls a "whoopsie" 
  baby!  Which leads me to my question!  I have always wanted a 
  homebirth but was always talked out of them previously by my husband (who is 
  not around this time),  and not because of any medical 
  reasons.   My GP isn't keen on the idea because of my age!!  
  But I'd still like to consider the option & get as much info as I 
  can.   So,  is there a homebirth midwife in or near 
  Toowoomba?   What are the costs involved?  Is my age a negative 
  factor?
   
  Thanks for any info you can give me & I look forward to being a 
  part of this list again!
   
  Carole

RE: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Jane Palmer]

Dear 
Carole
 
I 
personally don't see age as a factor when planning a homebirth - I plan to birth 
my 3rd baby at home (I'm 39).
 
On my 
website - I have a number of contacts for QLD listed - I haven't checked them 
for a while, but most should be still current. To see the contacts visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au/queensland.him
 
Cheers
 
Jane 
Palmer
Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au 
 On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 12:52 PM, Carole 
Claxton wrote:Hello again!I'm 
saying again because I used to be a member of this list a couple of years ago 
while doing my Master of Midwifery.   I un*subscribe due to huge 
computer problems & because once I qualified I was unable to get work in the 
maternity area...just as a casual which was few & far between! Anyway,  
about me.  I'm Carole Claxton..42years old & a Registered 
Nurse/Midwife.  For the past year I've been working part-time in a nursing 
home while being oncall for maternity work at the Base hospital.  As from 
next week, I do have a 6 month contract for part-time work in Special Care 
Nursery.  That I'm excited about but also nervous as I feel I have 
forgotten everything I learnt! I 
have 4 children,  1 of whom no longer lives at home & I have recently 
discovered that I am pregnant,  with what my Mum calls a "whoopsie" 
baby!  Which leads me to my question!  I have always wanted a 
homebirth but was always talked out of them previously by my husband (who is not 
around this time),  and not because of any medical reasons.   My 
GP isn't keen on the idea because of my age!!  But I'd still like to 
consider the option & get as much info as I can.   So,  is 
there a homebirth midwife in or near Toowoomba?   What are the costs 
involved?  Is my age a negative factor? Thanks 
for any info you can give me & I look forward to being a part of this list 
again! Carole

Re: [ozmidwifery] Intro & Question

[Andrea Quanchi]

Don't let anyone talk you out of it and I'm sure you will hear from midwives who are close to you via this list.  If not ry Lynne  Staff   whi is on the sunshine coast at nambour
Andrea Quanchi

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 12:52 PM, Carole Claxton wrote:

Hello again!
I'm saying again because I used to be a member of this list a couple of years ago while doing my Master of Midwifery.   I unsubscribed due to huge computer problems & because once I qualified I was unable to get work in the maternity area...just as a casual which was few & far between!
 
Anyway,  about me.  I'm Carole Claxton..42years old & a Registered Nurse/Midwife.  For the past year I've been working part-time in a nursing home while being oncall for maternity work at the Base hospital.  As from next week, I do have a 6 month contract for part-time work in Special Care Nursery.  That I'm excited about but also nervous as I feel I have forgotten everything I learnt!
 
I have 4 children,  1 of whom no longer lives at home & I have recently discovered that I am pregnant,  with what my Mum calls a "whoopsie" baby!  Which leads me to my question!  I have always wanted a homebirth but was always talked out of them previously by my husband (who is not around this time),  and not because of any medical reasons.   My GP isn't keen on the idea because of my age!!  But I'd still like to consider the option & get as much info as I can.   So,  is there a homebirth midwife in or near Toowoomba?   What are the costs involved?  Is my age a negative factor?
 
Thanks for any info you can give me & I look forward to being a part of this list again!
 
Carole