Re: Kerberos Pain

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On 19/04/2012, at 15:21, Dylan Tusler  
wrote:

> Interesting. I've run setspn -x and it turned up a duplicate entry.
>  
> It is a duplicate entry for the server, but with a different login name. So 
> probably not an issue.
>  
> A colleague here has pointed out a setting in IIS which is buried deep in 
> Advanced Settings under the web site authentication area, and it seems to 
> have the desired effect. I just don't know how it got "unset" in the first 
> place, which is troubling.
>  
> Cheers,
> Dylan Tusler
> Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
> ICTS Branch
> Sunshine Coast Regional Council
> P 07 5420 8002
> E dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au
> A Locked Bag 72, Sunshine Coast Mail Centre QLD 4560
> W www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au
> 
> Please consider the sanity of others before replying to replies to replies to 
> this email. Sometimes it just makes more sense to pick up the phone.
> 
>  
> 
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf 
> Of Iain Carlin
> Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:02
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: Re: Kerberos Pain
> 
> I had the identical situation here and it ended up being due to a duplicate 
> SPN being configured for the site that was asking for credentials.
> 
> Kerberos is hours of fun...not!
> 
> On 19 April 2012 14:27, Dylan Tusler  
> wrote:
> Hi, new to list, I've been lurking a short while, but this is driving me 
> crazy so I'm plunging in.
>  
> We have a number of web applications. At one point, almost all of them were 
> configured to use Kerberos (via Authentication Providers under "Manage Web 
> Applications")
>  
> One of them, our main intranet site (Sharepoint 80) is still configured to 
> use Kerberos and works fine.
>  
> None of the other sites now work with Kerberos. I've had to switch them all 
> gradually back to NTLM authentication. (When using Kerberos, users get asked 
> to log in all the time, and credentials are rejected after three attempts.)
>  
> There are several sites that use the same app pool identity as Sharepoint 80. 
> I cannot see any difference between the way the sites that don't work are set 
> up and the way the site that does work is set up.
>  
> What is going on here?
>  
> Dylan Tusler
> 
> 
> Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
> ICTS Branch
> Sunshine Coast Regional Council
> P 07 5420 8002
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RE: SharePoint or ASP.NET

[Tony Finnemore]

Hi Tom - Yes it can be done and has been done as you will find if you look
at SharePoint applications listed on sites like
http://www.sharepointreviews.com/product-directory/business-solutions.html 

 

That is not to say it is easy or why would you want to start from scratch
with a CRM type application.

 

LookOut Software has a CRM built on SharePoint lists with all the
functionality you would expect of a CRM http://sharepointcrmtemplate.com/
and a Stakeholder Relationship Management application with far more complex
data relationships than a CRM. The CRM and SRM are based on a small
collection of web parts and can be easily modified without being impacted by
future upgrades.

 

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From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Ng
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2012 2:48 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: SharePoint or ASP.NET

 

Hi Everyone,
Just a quick question.

If you were building a complex web system (where you have complex
relationships in your database say equivalent to a lightweight CRM system),
I am curious if you'd build this in a separate asp.net or ALL (many mini web
parts) in SharePoint?

Do you keep your custom system development inside your SharePoint intranet
always? (to take advanteage of user security/profiles etc?)

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RE: Kerberos Pain

[Dylan Tusler]

Interesting. I've run setspn -x and it turned up a duplicate entry.

It is a duplicate entry for the server, but with a different login name. So 
probably not an issue.

A colleague here has pointed out a setting in IIS which is buried deep in 
Advanced Settings under the web site authentication area, and it seems to have 
the desired effect. I just don't know how it got "unset" in the first place, 
which is troubling.

Cheers,

Dylan Tusler
Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
ICTS Branch
Sunshine Coast Regional Council
P 07 5420 8002
E 
dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au
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From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Iain Carlin
Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:02
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Re: Kerberos Pain

I had the identical situation here and it ended up being due to a duplicate SPN 
being configured for the site that was asking for credentials.

Kerberos is hours of fun...not!

On 19 April 2012 14:27, Dylan Tusler 
mailto:dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au>>
 wrote:
Hi, new to list, I've been lurking a short while, but this is driving me crazy 
so I'm plunging in.

We have a number of web applications. At one point, almost all of them were 
configured to use Kerberos (via Authentication Providers under "Manage Web 
Applications")

One of them, our main intranet site (Sharepoint 80) is still configured to use 
Kerberos and works fine.

None of the other sites now work with Kerberos. I've had to switch them all 
gradually back to NTLM authentication. (When using Kerberos, users get asked to 
log in all the time, and credentials are rejected after three attempts.)

There are several sites that use the same app pool identity as Sharepoint 80. I 
cannot see any difference between the way the sites that don't work are set up 
and the way the site that does work is set up.

What is going on here?


Dylan Tusler

Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
ICTS Branch
Sunshine Coast Regional Council
P 07 5420 8002
E 
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RE: Kerberos Pain

[Dylan Tusler]

Aah, yes, Sharepoint 2010 SP1 with June 2011 CU


Dylan Tusler
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From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Nigel Hertz
Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:02
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Kerberos Pain

Hi Dylan

Welcome to the list. First, and probably the most important question - 
SharePoint 2010 or MOSS 2007?   :)

N

From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Dylan Tusler
Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 2:57 PM
To: 'ozmoss@ozmoss.com'
Subject: Kerberos Pain

Hi, new to list, I've been lurking a short while, but this is driving me crazy 
so I'm plunging in.

We have a number of web applications. At one point, almost all of them were 
configured to use Kerberos (via Authentication Providers under "Manage Web 
Applications")

One of them, our main intranet site (Sharepoint 80) is still configured to use 
Kerberos and works fine.

None of the other sites now work with Kerberos. I've had to switch them all 
gradually back to NTLM authentication. (When using Kerberos, users get asked to 
log in all the time, and credentials are rejected after three attempts.)

There are several sites that use the same app pool identity as Sharepoint 80. I 
cannot see any difference between the way the sites that don't work are set up 
and the way the site that does work is set up.

What is going on here?


Dylan Tusler
Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
ICTS Branch
Sunshine Coast Regional Council
P 07 5420 8002
E 
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Re: Kerberos Pain

[Iain Carlin]

I had the identical situation here and it ended up being due to a duplicate
SPN being configured for the site that was asking for credentials.

Kerberos is hours of fun...not!

On 19 April 2012 14:27, Dylan Tusler
wrote:

> **
> Hi, new to list, I've been lurking a short while, but this is driving me
> crazy so I'm plunging in.
>
> We have a number of web applications. At one point, almost all of them
> were configured to use Kerberos (via Authentication Providers under "Manage
> Web Applications")
>
> One of them, our main intranet site (Sharepoint 80) is still configured to
> use Kerberos and works fine.
>
> None of the other sites now work with Kerberos. I've had to switch them
> all gradually back to NTLM authentication. (When using Kerberos, users get
> asked to log in all the time, and credentials are rejected after three
> attempts.)
>
> There are several sites that use the same app pool identity as Sharepoint
> 80. I cannot see any difference between the way the sites that don't work
> are set up and the way the site that does work is set up.
>
> What is going on here?
>
>
> Dylan Tusler
>
> Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
> ICTS Branch
> Sunshine Coast Regional Council
> P 07 5420 8002
> E 
> *dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au*
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RE: Kerberos Pain

[Nigel Hertz]

Hi Dylan

Welcome to the list. First, and probably the most important question - 
SharePoint 2010 or MOSS 2007?   :)

N

From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Dylan Tusler
Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 2:57 PM
To: 'ozmoss@ozmoss.com'
Subject: Kerberos Pain

Hi, new to list, I've been lurking a short while, but this is driving me crazy 
so I'm plunging in.

We have a number of web applications. At one point, almost all of them were 
configured to use Kerberos (via Authentication Providers under "Manage Web 
Applications")

One of them, our main intranet site (Sharepoint 80) is still configured to use 
Kerberos and works fine.

None of the other sites now work with Kerberos. I've had to switch them all 
gradually back to NTLM authentication. (When using Kerberos, users get asked to 
log in all the time, and credentials are rejected after three attempts.)

There are several sites that use the same app pool identity as Sharepoint 80. I 
cannot see any difference between the way the sites that don't work are set up 
and the way the site that does work is set up.

What is going on here?


Dylan Tusler
Team Lead Data, Development & Integration
ICTS Branch
Sunshine Coast Regional Council
P 07 5420 8002
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Discussion Boards after SP1 + March 2012 CU?

[James Boman]

Hey there people,
   I was just wondering if any of you have experienced a problem 
where after SharePoint 2010 SP1 + Feb 2012 CU update the discussion boards 
operate like plain announcement lists - and don't show the special discussion 
view any more?

Cheers,
   James.


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Sharepoint Designer 2010 - Email Bullets

[MacDonald, MM]

All,

I am creating an workflow that sends an email out.  In SPD 2007 we had to use 
html coding to format colors, bullets etc...

Well, with 2010 it allows you to do a lot more without HTML formatting but I 
cant figure out how to get bullets into the email.  I even tried using html 
coding and that didn't work.

Any information would be appreciated.



Thanks,

Mike MacDonald
Distribution Technology
Senior Technology Analyst
1-888-237-1838 opt 5,5

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Re: SharePoint or ASP.NET

[Neil Haddley]

Tom,

You should consider how Microsoft Project Server and Microsoft Dynamics CRM
are implemented using a combination of a custom application database
(schema) and SharePoint Lists/Document Libraries.

Of course there are many parts of SharePoint 2010 that avoid the use of
SharePoint lists when they need to store data. Consider how the search
"Index" is stored.

Kind regards

Neil

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Tom Ng  wrote:

> Thanks Neil for quick reply.
>
> I have a couple more custom applications (web based). And they are all
> complex systems. Using SharePoint lists won't be enough.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Neil Haddley <
> neil.hadd...@darkblueduck.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> You should consider how Microsoft has put together Microsoft CRM 2011 and
>> Microsoft Project Server 2010...
>>
>> This should give you a clear ideal of what approach would work best.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Tom Ng  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> Just a quick question.
>>>
>>> If you were building a complex web system (where you have complex
>>> relationships in your database say equivalent to a lightweight CRM system),
>>> I am curious if you'd build this in a separate asp.net or ALL (many
>>> mini web parts) in SharePoint?
>>>
>>> Do you keep your custom system development inside your SharePoint
>>> intranet always? (to take advanteage of user security/profiles etc?)
>>>
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Re: SharePoint or ASP.NET

[Ajay]

It depends on the application.
We migrated a old asp.net application to sharePoint and it had it's
problems but saved lot of time as I didnt had to worry about things like
user management, workflows which saved lot of time, alerts, layout pages
came in handy for tasks which were custom coded before. Also SharePoint is
platform and you can host asp.net pages inside share point.


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Mark Daunt  wrote:

>  Be prepared to hit numerous brick walls if you try to build something
> complex and robust using SharePoint.
>
> Also if you want something to work on future devices, be aware that
> SharePoint is built heavily on aspx, which is pretty much obsolete.
>
> You’ll have far more flexibility if you built from scratch using something
> like MVC, Razor and HTML 5
>
> Just my humble opinion :-)
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 18/04/12 3:12 PM, "Tom Ng"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Neil for quick reply.
>
> I have a couple more custom applications (web based). And they are all
> complex systems. Using SharePoint lists won't be enough.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Neil Haddley <
> neil.hadd...@darkblueduck.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> You should consider how Microsoft has put together Microsoft CRM 2011 and
> Microsoft Project Server 2010...
>
> This should give you a clear ideal of what approach would work best.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Neil
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Tom Ng  wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Just a quick question.
>
> If you were building a complex web system (where you have complex
> relationships in your database say equivalent to a lightweight CRM system),
> I am curious if you'd build this in a separate asp.net 
>  or ALL (many mini web parts) in SharePoint?
>
>
> Do you keep your custom system development inside your SharePoint intranet
> always? (to take advanteage of user security/profiles etc?)
>
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