RE: Site Collection Admin - use group
Hi Adam, We want to use a group for precisely the reasons you specified. * It can be managed from AD * It allows for more than two SCAs * We don't want to assign individuals at the site level every time. What a pain! Sadly, just like site member groups, MOSS seems to love the idea of users over groups. :\ I did actually think of a simple enough solution to this. Just make a copy of the current page and change the field to people and groups. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Adam J. Clark Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:19 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hey Paul, I don't have a solution, more just a question of use... Are you looking at this function to give the SCA to a group of people (more than two obviously) or just to make changing the SCA person easier though AD management? My thinking is that it is always better to have less SCA's than more as it can limit your legal liability for individuals on your SharePoint environment. Cheers Regards, Adam Clark Solutions Architect [cid:image001.png@01CA3B9D.B525D460] Mobile: +61 412 344 037 Email:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.aumailto:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au Web: http://www.sharingminds.com.auhttp://www.sharingminds.com.au/ Blog: http://adamclark.wordpress.comhttp://adamclark.wordpress.com/ From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:08 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. :( Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.commailto:br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.comhttp://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspxhttp://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.nethttp://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it'll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won't let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Site Collection Admin - use group
I'm not sure that would work, but certainly worth a shot though If you want to assign more than 2 SCA's though you can do this at the site settings pages rather than through CA. Just sign in to the site as a SCA and you will see Site Collection Administrators as an option under people and groups, that page has a people picker (still limited to people only) but you can put as many in there as you like. Not sure why the CA site does it differently because there is no difference. It is still a pain having to manage it for individual users though! Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ http://blog.brianfarnhill.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill @BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 4:02 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hi Adam, We want to use a group for precisely the reasons you specified. . It can be managed from AD . It allows for more than two SCAs . We don't want to assign individuals at the site level every time. What a pain! Sadly, just like site member groups, MOSS seems to love the idea of users over groups. :\ I did actually think of a simple enough solution to this. Just make a copy of the current page and change the field to people and groups. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Adam J. Clark Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:19 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hey Paul, I don't have a solution, more just a question of use... Are you looking at this function to give the SCA to a group of people (more than two obviously) or just to make changing the SCA person easier though AD management? My thinking is that it is always better to have less SCA's than more as it can limit your legal liability for individuals on your SharePoint environment. Cheers Regards, Adam Clark Solutions Architect SM_Logo_RGB_email3 Mobile: +61 412 344 037 Email: mailto:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au Web: http://www.sharingminds.com.au/ http://www.sharingminds.com.au Blog: http://adamclark.wordpress.com/ http://adamclark.wordpress.com From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:08 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. L Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ http://blog.brianfarnhill.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill @BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http:// http://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.net http://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you
RE: Site Collection Admin - use group
Sadly it is an API limitation... it only accepts a user. Regards, Paul Turner Senior Solutions Specialist M: 0412 748 168 P: 08 8238 0912 F: 08 8234 5966 A: 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttps://webmail.dws.com.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx ADVANCED BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LTD This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Brian Farnhill [br...@brianfarnhill.com] Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:45 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group I’m not sure that would work, but certainly worth a shot though If you want to assign more than 2 SCA’s though you can do this at the site settings pages rather than through CA. Just sign in to the site as a SCA and you will see “Site Collection Administrators” as an option under people and groups, that page has a people picker (still limited to people only) but you can put as many in there as you like. Not sure why the CA site does it differently because there is no difference. It is still a pain having to manage it for individual users though! Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.comhttp://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 4:02 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hi Adam, We want to use a group for precisely the reasons you specified. • It can be managed from AD • It allows for more than two SCAs • We don’t want to assign individuals at the site level every time. What a pain! Sadly, just like site member groups, MOSS seems to love the idea of users over groups. :\ I did actually think of a simple enough solution to this. Just make a copy of the current page and change the field to people and groups. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Adam J. Clark Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:19 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hey Paul, I don’t have a solution, more just a question of use... Are you looking at this function to give the SCA to a group of people (more than two obviously) or just to make changing the SCA person easier though AD management? My thinking is that it is always better to have less SCA’s than more as it can limit your legal liability for individuals on your SharePoint environment. Cheers Regards, Adam Clark Solutions Architect [cid:image001.png@01CA3B9F.D8851680] Mobile: +61 412 344 037 Email:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.aumailto:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au Web: http://www.sharingminds.com.auhttp://www.sharingminds.com.au/ Blog: http://adamclark.wordpress.comhttp://adamclark.wordpress.com/ From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:08 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. :( Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.commailto:br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That’s just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn’t the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn’t a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks – They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I’m pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that’s a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.comhttp://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp
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Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it’ll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won’t let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Site Collection Admin - use group
CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it’ll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won’t let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspxhttp://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.net On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it’ll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won’t let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Site Collection Admin - use group
That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ http://blog.brianfarnhill.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill @BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http:// http://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.net http://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it'll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won't let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.comwrote: That’s just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn’t the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn’t a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks – They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I’m pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that’s a bit of a fail in my book Regards, *Brian Farnhill* Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.com | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill| Mobile: 0408 289 303 *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Edge *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspxhttp://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.net On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it’ll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won’t let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. :( Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.commailto:br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.comhttp://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspxhttp://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.nethttp://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it'll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won't let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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Hey Paul, I don't have a solution, more just a question of use... Are you looking at this function to give the SCA to a group of people (more than two obviously) or just to make changing the SCA person easier though AD management? My thinking is that it is always better to have less SCA's than more as it can limit your legal liability for individuals on your SharePoint environment. Cheers Regards, Adam Clark Solutions Architect [cid:image001.png@01CA3B97.FEA8B450] Mobile: +61 412 344 037 Email:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.aumailto:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au Web: http://www.sharingminds.com.auhttp://www.sharingminds.com.au/ Blog: http://adamclark.wordpress.comhttp://adamclark.wordpress.com/ From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:08 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. :( Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.commailto:br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.comhttp://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhillhttp://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspxhttp://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.nethttp://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it'll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won't let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss inline: image001.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Site Collection Admin - use group [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
I remember a few months ago looking into adding an AD group to be the SCA and after a few days of looking around and trying different things I gave up on the idea. We wanted it so that when ever we created a new application, we could simply add the ad group to be the SCA and that way as new people started and other left, we didn't have to go around and try to fix add/remove them individually. If you find a way to do it, please let me know. Fadi From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Adam J. Clark Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:19 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Hey Paul, I don't have a solution, more just a question of use... Are you looking at this function to give the SCA to a group of people (more than two obviously) or just to make changing the SCA person easier though AD management? My thinking is that it is always better to have less SCA's than more as it can limit your legal liability for individuals on your SharePoint environment. Cheers Regards, Adam Clark Solutions Architect Mobile: +61 412 344 037 Email:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au mailto:adam.cl...@sharingminds.com.au Web: http://www.sharingminds.com.au http://www.sharingminds.com.au/ Blog: http://adamclark.wordpress.com http://adamclark.wordpress.com/ From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 3:08 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Site Collection Admin - use group Thanks Edge. But Brian is right on both counts. Full Control is not the same as site collection admin. And not being able to assign a group to this field truly sucks. :-( Thanks to you both. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:59 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Agreed that's not the same thing. Try and see if the solution works for you. because internally actually that page to add primary site collection is an override of that functionality from the page I sent ...you know, the story of the cat and the skinning thing... Cheers, -Edge On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian Farnhill br...@brianfarnhill.com wrote: That's just the Full Control permission in the site collection, which isn't the same as site collection admin As far as I know there isn't a way to use any sort of group for this, which sucks - They have a SharePoint group in CA for Farm Administrators (and I'm pretty sure you can put AD groups in there) but for site collection admin you have to select only specific people without the use of groups, that's a bit of a fail in my book Regards, Brian Farnhill Blog: http://blog.brianfarnhill.com http://blog.brianfarnhill.com/ | Twitter: @BrianFarnhill http://twitter.com/BrianFarnhill | Mobile: 0408 289 303 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Edge Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:29 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group try this: - go to http://your site collection/_layouts/aclinv.aspx http://%3cyour%20site%20collection%3e/_layouts/aclinv.aspx - add the group - chose give permissions directly - select full control - click ok Edge www.superedge.net http://www.superedge.net/ On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: CA and at the site collection level. It's a people picker field in both. Doesn't accept groups for some reason. -Original Message- From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 2:14 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Site Collection Admin - use group Are you talking about in central admin? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker field so it'll accept groups?? SharePoint Manager won't let me edit these fields. L Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss image002.gif___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss
