Re: Is it time to open source Silverlight?
I think we need the chicken before the egg. Meaning, who will maintain it, is there a group that is willing to take over? An unmaintained OS project is just as bad as an unmaintained closed one. I think it's doable, but IMO, to make it stronger a request to Open Source it should be be accompanied from a proposal with a plan and people backing it up instead of ideas of what could be done. PS. It's nice to see some activity on this list. Miguel On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Who owns SL at the moment? Who would make this call? When WP goes WinRT there is no commercial reason not to... -- From: Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com Sent: 22/11/2013 9:59 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Cc: ozDotNet ozdot...@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Is it time to open source Silverlight? I'll manage it if it does i have references... --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:25 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.comwrote: http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/is-it-time-to-open-source-silverlight/ While I was at the MVP summit I started asking around about if it was time to open source Silverlight. My thoughts were if the technology is now considered done by Microsoft, then there are few reasons why it couldn't be released to the community to see what they can do with it. It was a solid technology (which isn't suitable in the modern world of the public web), but still has a nice niche on desktop. It could be interesting to see how the community extends it, and perhaps even put onto other platforms (like moonlight did). A basic game engine could be an interesting direction, or using it to embed within desktop applications. The point is, rather than let it rot internally at Microsoft, why not let the community go wild with it before it gets any more stale. http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/is-it-time-to-open-source-silverlight/ -David Burela ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: In praise of slsvcutil.exe
Hi Greg, As an alternative to 'Add Service Reference' and even 'slsvcutil/svcutil' you could use AutoServiceProxy, just by sharing DataContracts and ServiceContracts you don't really need the proxy. Have a look at the project in bitbucket. https://bitbucket.org/mamadero/sltoolsdemo Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, ** ** Thanks to a hint by Brendan in the Silverlight forum I was led to find this utility (on my machine): ** ** %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Microsoft SDKs\Silverlight\v4.0\Tools\slsvcutilhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc197958(v=vs.95).aspx .exe ** ** Thank heavens for this, as it means I can now generate the service reference code for a Silverlight project the same way I have been using svcutil for normal projects. I haven’t used the “Add Service Reference” in normal projects for years because the code generated by svcutil is easier to control and far less cluttered. I highly recommend that people gen the code this way instead of using “add reference”. ** ** I was wondering what the equivalent was for SL projects and what the build process what doing internally. Ages ago I used some monitoring tools and various tricks to find what was happening internally but was defeated and gave up. I’m not sure if slsvcutil existed then, but it does now. I also fell for the bug described herehttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/silverlightws/archive/2010/04/30/workaround-for-stackoverflowexception-when-using-slsvcutil-exe.aspxand had to use the workaround to get slsvcutil working. ** ** I hope this tool helps others avoid the shocking problems I had this morning with a “corrupt” service reference. ** ** Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Build
Wasn't it last year that we started this discussion? :) Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:24 PM, jason schluter write_2_ja...@hotmail.comwrote: Here here. Just when Sydney sddn was looking for a new name too. -Jason schluter From: Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Build WinUXG. In reality your windows focued only now and given XAML / HTML5 + WinRT etc... will cross-polynate why limit yourselves to just XAML? I saw this with the Flash vs Flex community, in the end its the Flash Runtime why segeregate ... its technology racism RACISM! :) h --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: +1 for XDDN.More than happy to widen the focus from Silverlight to all things XAML. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au wrote: +1 for XDDN. +1 for more focus on design. ** ** Carl. ** ** *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, 22 September 2011 8:53 AM *To:* ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: Build ** ** Earlier this year I sent out a newsletter, saying that I'd made the decision to change the Melbourne SDDN group to be a XAML usergroup, to cover Silverlight + Windows phone (+ WPF). For me there was enough crossover to stop it being an exclusively Silverlight usergroup. ** ** My plans for the rest of the year were to have a lot more generic design sessions, such as more examples of a design workflow, the creative process, etc. I figured t here should be more DESIGN focus since it is in the usergroup's name (SDDN). Now with build, I'll definitely having WinRT XAML sessions (in fact, that's what this month's Melbourne talk is on). ** ** ** ** For me, the SDDN has evolved into being a usergroup focused on cutting edge Microsoft UI frameworks, and the design philosophies behind UI/UX. I guess the only issue is the name. I had kept the SDDN name only for the brand recognition. *My suggestion?* We rebrand SDDN to XDDN. Which could mean XAML Design Developer Network or with the X meaning anything if you want to include HTML5 (like the XMUG run by thoughtworks). -David Burela ** ** On 21 September 2011 19:12, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Hey all, ** ** So most people have probably absorbed the stuff shown at BUILD and so I thought I'd kick off a new thread and see what people think. (I'm yet to spend any time watching videos but have read a few blog posts about it)** ** ** ** A couple of things spring to mind. Silverlight will soon be (if not already) legacy code. I liked the quote I saw somewhere The rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. - Silverlight ** ** Being a developer/designer/devigner, I think its great that XAML will be available for C++, HTML5 and .Net. I'm wondering if it's time to rebadge/rename/reinvent the SDDN user group. I'm thinking XUG would be a good name. (Or perhaps XUGXUG, said in the voice of a peon from warcraft 3 - pronounced Zug-zug). ** ** thoughts? ** ** Go. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ** ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ This email has been scanned by the Bankwest Email Security System. ___ ** ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have any doubts as to the contents please telephone to confirm. This electronic transmission including any attachments is intended only for those to whom it is addressed. It may contain copyright material or information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure by law. Any claim to privilege is not waived or lost by reason
Re: Silverlight tip: server side RIA services custom validation
Hi David, Just curious about what was wrong of just putting this validation on your DomainService class instead of in the entity if you needed access to the DB. Also, just another idea, if you really want code run only server side and you have it on a .shared file you can use #if !SILVERLIGHT to have run only server side. Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:36 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com wrote: Thought I'd post this tip on custom server side validation in case anyone finds it useful. In a current Silverlight application we had the scenario where we needed to validate a data form. When the user entered some data, we needed to run some custom validation code against the database to ensure that it was valid. Unfortunately standard custom validators that you put into a .shared.cs file will not work. As any database logic that you wrote, while working on the domain service side, would not be able to compile on the Silverlight side. After a LOT of research, my team came across this blog post by Nikhil Kothari (@nikhilk) that describes how you can write custom validation code that is ONLY executed server side. This allows you to write code that access databases, etc. that cannot be executed client side. Nikhil also then goes into more details on how you can get client side UI notifications, by adding Asynchronous Validation to the UI. Here is the link to Nikhil’s blog post http://www.nikhilk.net/RIA-Services-Validation.aspx -David Burela ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: More build trauma
This is what worked for me (copied from a different thread). Ok, this was the fix: Just set the configuration of the build definition and set the MSBuild Patform parameter to X86 (it was Auto before). I think it forces the execution of the x86 version of MSBuild.exe (not confirmed) and therefore the same effect is achieved (than running the build in an x86 machine). [image: a.jpg] So just changing the MSBuild Platform did the trick. I also raised this issue on connecthttps://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=523367, but Microsoft closed it saying that we should just change the configuration manually. Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Hey all, Ok, I'm on to the next hurdle I think... I've copied some of the missing folders from msbuild folder onto the build/tfs server, and installed Silverlight SDK and Toolkit. Its fixed a bunch of issues with Silverlight files not being found. I'm still having issues with RIA services generated code not being built. I'm not sure if its related to the build order or not. Building the projects from commandline with msbuild gives the same errors but it works fine on my dev machine. xxx.cs(16,22): error CS1061: 'xxx' does not contain a definition for 'RaisePropertyChanged' and no extension method 'RaisePropertyChanged' accepting a first argument of type 'xxx' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?) I tried adding that two of the projects manually to the build definition, having them build before the solution. That gave me the warning: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\Microsoft.Common.targets (484): The OutputPath property is not set for project 'xxx.csproj'. Please check to make sure that you have specified a valid combination of Configuration and Platform for this project. Configuration='Debug' Platform='Any CPU'. You may be seeing this message because you are trying to build a project without a solution file, and have specified a non-default Configuration or Platform that doesn't exist for this project. so I changed it to build it as x86 and those two projects built, but the main solution skipped all of the projects in it. I'm wondering if I'm supposed to created a solution file that builds everything as x86 for it to work on TFS or is there something else I can do to get this stubborn mule building? Anyone actually done this before? I'm not really asking for much. I just want TFS to build my Silverlight app. :( frustrating! cheers, Stephen p.s. Have a great easter break :) ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight a.jpg___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Quick Reminder. Perth SDDN is tonight
Quick Reminder. Perth SDDN is tonight More info here http://www.meetup.com/Perth-SDDN/events/16115992/ Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Control thumbnails
+1 hehehe On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Shane Morris (Automatic Studio) sh...@automaticstudio.com.au wrote: Hey, one more crack like that about Blend and I'll withdraw all suggestions! :-) -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Monday, 6 December 2010 10:32 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Control thumbnails Shane is a mind-reader. I was looking for the control that auto-sizes its contents in various ways, it's the ViewBox of course. I'll wrap each child in a ViewBox. My parent Grid can have 4 x 4 cells, and in normal display the top visible control will have row and col span 4 with Stretch=None. In tiled mode I'll show all children in a specific cell with Stretch=Uniform. Half an hour later: My experiments show it's starting to work, but there are some strange sizing behaviours like the Viewbox isn't filling the Grid. I'll look at it in the morning with a fresh mind. ADDENDUM: Jack, I received your message just before sending. 'Fluid Layout' is something I'd forgotten about completely. I'd rather go to the dentist than use Blend, but I'll try to figure out what it's doing behind the scenes and see if I can steal the code for a snazzy transition. Cheers, Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney October Meeting
This month John Liu http://johnliu.net/ from SSW will take us step by step from zero to a packaged Sharepoint + Silverlight solution. Then Miguel Madero http://www.miguelmadero.com/ will share some nice tips and tricks for the day to day Silverlight development. *When*: Monday October 18th, 2010, 6:00 pm to start 6:30 pm* Where*: City Hotel (maphttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=347+Kent+Streetsll=-33.867139,151.207114sspn=0.066921,0.125313ie=UTF8hq=hnear=347+Kent+St,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australiaz=17) 347 Kent Street (Corner of King Street). Second floor at the Kent Street Living Room. *Cost: *Free, but please RSVP on our Facebook group.http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=135132396536327 *What: *two great presentations, networking and good discussions over a great meal and beers. Sharepoint + Silverlight by John Liu http://johnliu.net/ SharePoint 2010 ships with a number of new technologies enabling developers to build Silverlight applications that can rapidly work with SharePoint 2010, with very little deployment costs. This technical session will focus on best practices relating to developing and deploying Silverlight + SharePoint 2010 solutions. Taking you from scratch to a fully packaged SP2010 sandbox solution. *John is a Solution Architect for SSW based in Sydney, Australia. Coming from a technical background with **ASP.NET* http://asp.net/*, he has made the jump and has worked on numerous web projects with heavily customized Sharepoint web sites since MOSS 2007. John loves the number of ways that a developer can work with SharePoint.* Productivity Tools and Techniques for Silverlight by Miguel Madero http://sydney.sddn.org.au/www.miguelmadero.com During this presentation Miguel will share with us some of the tools and techniques used during the day to day Silverlight Development. Some of these tools will help us design, debug and keep our code neat and simple. Some of the topics covered are: - Http Sniffing - Visual Design Debugging - Silverlight Assemblies - Removing the need for INotifyPropertyChanged - Advanced Silverlight Debugging - Avoiding Code Generation of Web Services (without RIA Services) *Miguel has been programming for fun for the last 15 years when he realized that it was better to play with QBasic and Pascal than Prince of Persia. He found out that he could actually get some money out of this hobby so he started a couple of web companies then 5 years later a Development Shop before moving to Australia to work for Readify where he’s now having fun coding some of the coolest projects in the country. He discovered Silverlight three years ago and it’s still keeping him busy and entertained. * ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Opening an OOB App
You're right. You would just use %programfiles% Since Silverlight (hence any SL app and any SL host) is 32 bit that env variable will return either c:\program files in a 32 bit OS or c:\program files (x86) on a 64bit one. Too bad about the lack to pass params. In my case they're coming from the same domain and I was looking to do use the site store as the last resort, can get a bit messy since I might initiate multiple instances almost at the same time, so I would have to have some sort of queue, possible adding locks, etc... I'll have to think this through, but is far from ideal. About the installation. We can do it passing from sllauncher. My dream is to have an ApplicationManager that could perform this tasks for me, but if I want to write my own, I'll need Elevated Trust for any of these (start another app, install it, etc). On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: %programfiles(x86)% only works on Windows 64 bit unfortunately. As far as I know, there's not an easy way to determine this path on both 32 and 64 bit editions of Windows (unless someone has some tips for doing so). There's no way of passing parameters to an OOB app unfortunately (AFAIK). The only way I know of is to write the parameters as settings in isolated storage, or to a known location (like, dare I say, the registry if you have elevated trust). If it is the same application being loaded, you can write them to the application store, or if the application to be loaded is from the same domain then you could use the site store. If the application originates from a different domain you're somewhat out of luck, and would need to use the known location method. As for your scenario to install another Silverlight application, I can't see that being possible. You could always host another Silverlight application within your application using the WebBrowser control (set up so that if run within the browser it will only request to be installed, like the Facebook application does). You could pass it parameters via the URL query parameters. However, the user will always need to be involved in initiating the actual installation process. The application will then automatically launch once installed. Chris On 6 October 2010 09:57, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I don't have a blog anymore so I'll leave it on your capable hands. You don't have to guess the path, this should work, but still requires Elevated Trust: call %programfiles(x86)%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe I was thinking to start a second app. It would be nice to have something like: ApplicationManager.StartApp(SomeOtherAppInTheSamePathAsThisOne.xap); ApplicationManager.StartApp( http://anotherdomain.com/Something/CoolApp.xap;, param1=value1;param2=MiguelsCool); That option should check first if the app is installed (based on the origin), if not, install it, then start it. I should also be able to get a ref to it and communicate with it (using pipes?) or at least have a way to pass initparams. All of this without elevated trust. We should even be able to start another instance of the same OOB App with just diferent parameters. BTW, is there a way to send initparams to an OOB App? On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: Yep. Ideally you'd have an Application.Current.Restart() method, so elevated trust wasn't necessary though :). You'd still have to use COM Interop to find the user's Program Files folder though (the System.Environment.GetFolderPath method won't return it), and then use COM Interop to run sllauncher.exe. Whether it matters that the app is still running when the new instance is loaded, I don't know, but I think it would be OK. I assume the new version (if doing immediately after an update has been downloaded) will have already been put in the right place, and not waiting for the current instance of the app to close. One of us might have to give it a go as a proof of concept exercise and blog the results :). Chris On 5 October 2010 17:10, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: All of the options we mentioned required full trust, but this one at least doesn't require COM Interop to inspect the file system :) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, nice. Will have to remember that one. Of course you'll need elevated trust to be able to do that, but looks like a good solution. Thanks for sharing Miguel. Chris On 5 October 2010 15:26, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Everyone, I remember a few months ago at an SDDN meeting we were talking about options to start an OOB App like looking at the shortcuts in the start menu or trying to guess based on the random paths that the app might get installed on. I found a nice option. Essentially we use the 'origin' as the key instead of trying to find the path to the xap
Re: Opening an OOB App
If SL ever becomes 64 bit, then %programfiles% will still resolve to the right folder. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: Ah yes, of course, Silverlight is 32 bit only - for the moment anyway. And yep, you could install an app via sllauncher.exe if you have elevated trust (I didn't think of that). As you say, the isolated storage solution to passing parameters between instances has its fair share of issues :). Chris On 6 October 2010 22:58, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: You're right. You would just use %programfiles% Since Silverlight (hence any SL app and any SL host) is 32 bit that env variable will return either c:\program files in a 32 bit OS or c:\program files (x86) on a 64bit one. Too bad about the lack to pass params. In my case they're coming from the same domain and I was looking to do use the site store as the last resort, can get a bit messy since I might initiate multiple instances almost at the same time, so I would have to have some sort of queue, possible adding locks, etc... I'll have to think this through, but is far from ideal. About the installation. We can do it passing from sllauncher. My dream is to have an ApplicationManager that could perform this tasks for me, but if I want to write my own, I'll need Elevated Trust for any of these (start another app, install it, etc). On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: %programfiles(x86)% only works on Windows 64 bit unfortunately. As far as I know, there's not an easy way to determine this path on both 32 and 64 bit editions of Windows (unless someone has some tips for doing so). There's no way of passing parameters to an OOB app unfortunately (AFAIK). The only way I know of is to write the parameters as settings in isolated storage, or to a known location (like, dare I say, the registry if you have elevated trust). If it is the same application being loaded, you can write them to the application store, or if the application to be loaded is from the same domain then you could use the site store. If the application originates from a different domain you're somewhat out of luck, and would need to use the known location method. As for your scenario to install another Silverlight application, I can't see that being possible. You could always host another Silverlight application within your application using the WebBrowser control (set up so that if run within the browser it will only request to be installed, like the Facebook application does). You could pass it parameters via the URL query parameters. However, the user will always need to be involved in initiating the actual installation process. The application will then automatically launch once installed. Chris On 6 October 2010 09:57, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I don't have a blog anymore so I'll leave it on your capable hands. You don't have to guess the path, this should work, but still requires Elevated Trust: call %programfiles(x86)%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe I was thinking to start a second app. It would be nice to have something like: ApplicationManager.StartApp(SomeOtherAppInTheSamePathAsThisOne.xap); ApplicationManager.StartApp( http://anotherdomain.com/Something/CoolApp.xap;, param1=value1;param2=MiguelsCool); That option should check first if the app is installed (based on the origin), if not, install it, then start it. I should also be able to get a ref to it and communicate with it (using pipes?) or at least have a way to pass initparams. All of this without elevated trust. We should even be able to start another instance of the same OOB App with just diferent parameters. BTW, is there a way to send initparams to an OOB App? On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Ideally you'd have an Application.Current.Restart() method, so elevated trust wasn't necessary though :). You'd still have to use COM Interop to find the user's Program Files folder though (the System.Environment.GetFolderPath method won't return it), and then use COM Interop to run sllauncher.exe. Whether it matters that the app is still running when the new instance is loaded, I don't know, but I think it would be OK. I assume the new version (if doing immediately after an update has been downloaded) will have already been put in the right place, and not waiting for the current instance of the app to close. One of us might have to give it a go as a proof of concept exercise and blog the results :). Chris On 5 October 2010 17:10, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: All of the options we mentioned required full trust, but this one at least doesn't require COM Interop to inspect the file system :) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, nice. Will have to remember that one
Re: Opening an OOB App
All of the options we mentioned required full trust, but this one at least doesn't require COM Interop to inspect the file system :) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: Ah, nice. Will have to remember that one. Of course you'll need elevated trust to be able to do that, but looks like a good solution. Thanks for sharing Miguel. Chris On 5 October 2010 15:26, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Everyone, I remember a few months ago at an SDDN meeting we were talking about options to start an OOB App like looking at the shortcuts in the start menu or trying to guess based on the random paths that the app might get installed on. I found a nice option. Essentially we use the 'origin' as the key instead of trying to find the path to the xap. From Tim Heuer bloghttp://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/03/25/using-sllauncher-for-silent-install-silverlight-application.aspx Automatically Launching the App So what if you wanted to also automatically launch the app after installing (i.e., the CD/DVD ‘autorun’ scenario). You again would use sllauncher.exe to do this for you *after you’ve installed the app*. Using our same sample above here would be the command: 1: %ProgramFiles%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe 2: /emulate:Silverface.xap 3: /origin:http://www.silverlight.net/content/samples/apps/facebookclient/ClientBin/Silverface.xap; 4: /overwrite Notice the *emulate* command. This is the launcher. Now you’ll notice that this isn’t the same command-line options if you looked at an installed applications’ created shortcuts. Because the folder where the XAP gets installed is pretty random, we use the origin as the hint to the sllauncher.exe program to find the right app for us and start it up. I’ve found that using /overwrite will also give a more consistent behavior. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Opening an OOB App
I don't have a blog anymore so I'll leave it on your capable hands. You don't have to guess the path, this should work, but still requires Elevated Trust: call %programfiles(x86)%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe I was thinking to start a second app. It would be nice to have something like: ApplicationManager.StartApp(SomeOtherAppInTheSamePathAsThisOne.xap); ApplicationManager.StartApp(http://anotherdomain.com/Something/CoolApp.xap;, param1=value1;param2=MiguelsCool); That option should check first if the app is installed (based on the origin), if not, install it, then start it. I should also be able to get a ref to it and communicate with it (using pipes?) or at least have a way to pass initparams. All of this without elevated trust. We should even be able to start another instance of the same OOB App with just diferent parameters. BTW, is there a way to send initparams to an OOB App? On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: Yep. Ideally you'd have an Application.Current.Restart() method, so elevated trust wasn't necessary though :). You'd still have to use COM Interop to find the user's Program Files folder though (the System.Environment.GetFolderPath method won't return it), and then use COM Interop to run sllauncher.exe. Whether it matters that the app is still running when the new instance is loaded, I don't know, but I think it would be OK. I assume the new version (if doing immediately after an update has been downloaded) will have already been put in the right place, and not waiting for the current instance of the app to close. One of us might have to give it a go as a proof of concept exercise and blog the results :). Chris On 5 October 2010 17:10, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: All of the options we mentioned required full trust, but this one at least doesn't require COM Interop to inspect the file system :) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: Ah, nice. Will have to remember that one. Of course you'll need elevated trust to be able to do that, but looks like a good solution. Thanks for sharing Miguel. Chris On 5 October 2010 15:26, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Everyone, I remember a few months ago at an SDDN meeting we were talking about options to start an OOB App like looking at the shortcuts in the start menu or trying to guess based on the random paths that the app might get installed on. I found a nice option. Essentially we use the 'origin' as the key instead of trying to find the path to the xap. From Tim Heuer bloghttp://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/03/25/using-sllauncher-for-silent-install-silverlight-application.aspx Automatically Launching the App So what if you wanted to also automatically launch the app after installing (i.e., the CD/DVD ‘autorun’ scenario). You again would use sllauncher.exe to do this for you *after you’ve installed the app*. Using our same sample above here would be the command: 1: %ProgramFiles%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe 2: /emulate:Silverface.xap 3: /origin:http://www.silverlight.net/content/samples/apps/facebookclient/ClientBin/Silverface.xap; 4: /overwrite Notice the *emulate* command. This is the launcher. Now you’ll notice that this isn’t the same command-line options if you looked at an installed applications’ created shortcuts. Because the folder where the XAP gets installed is pretty random, we use the origin as the hint to the sllauncher.exe program to find the right app for us and start it up. I’ve found that using /overwrite will also give a more consistent behavior. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Opening an OOB App
Everyone, I remember a few months ago at an SDDN meeting we were talking about options to start an OOB App like looking at the shortcuts in the start menu or trying to guess based on the random paths that the app might get installed on. I found a nice option. Essentially we use the 'origin' as the key instead of trying to find the path to the xap. From Tim Heuer bloghttp://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/03/25/using-sllauncher-for-silent-install-silverlight-application.aspx Automatically Launching the App So what if you wanted to also automatically launch the app after installing (i.e., the CD/DVD ‘autorun’ scenario). You again would use sllauncher.exe to do this for you *after you’ve installed the app*. Using our same sample above here would be the command: 1: %ProgramFiles%\Microsoft Silverlight\sllauncher.exe 2: /emulate:Silverface.xap 3: /origin:http://www.silverlight.net/content/samples/apps/facebookclient/ClientBin/Silverface.xap; 4: /overwrite Notice the *emulate* command. This is the launcher. Now you’ll notice that this isn’t the same command-line options if you looked at an installed applications’ created shortcuts. Because the folder where the XAP gets installed is pretty random, we use the origin as the hint to the sllauncher.exe program to find the right app for us and start it up. I’ve found that using /overwrite will also give a more consistent behavior. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Cross framework control development - Silverlight 4 and Phone 7
Hi John, Unfortunately it's hard to maintain 2 separate solutions with a bunch of similar projects linking files. Everytime you add a file you have to switch and create a link. You might use Project Linker (from PP), although I never got it to work. Another solution is to simply have a NANT script, a post build action or some MSBuild voodoo to builds the same project for WP7. I've seen many OS projects go down that path. Ninject is one that comes to mind. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.auwrote: Guys, any experiences or suggestions for developing a Silverlight control that you'd like to run on both Silverlight 4 and Phone 7? Having looked at it currently we are planning to: 1. Have two Solutions, A Silverlight 4 and a Phone 7, replicate projects, same namespaces but different assembly names. 2. Have all the code in the Silverlight 4 solution / projects. Phone 7 projects will have code files added as a link to the SL4 files. 3. For the core anything not compatible with Phone 7 surround with #if !WINDOWS_PHONE 4. Break apart anything really specific into different projects, simply don't have them in the Phone or Silverlight4 solution. Eg specific drop target feature for Silverlight4 only Major issue we see with this is that you can easily add something to the Silverlight4 solution that will break the Phone7 solution, looking at a build server that would build both solutions and report these errors quickly. Thoughts? ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Design time data
We have to be careful with HtmlPage.IsEnabled. That was the way to do it in
Silverlight 2, however this will break Out of Browser. Not a big issue if
you don't care about OOB, but just something to keep in mind.
Try DesignerProperties.IsInDesignTool. This should work for both VS and
Blend.
@David, there are a couple more options
1. Create Sample Data from class option in Blend. To be honest I don't like
it and find it quite limited, but it's still an option.
2. Using a DesignTime ViewModel. Using a d:DataContext and set it to create
an instance of your type.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote:
Hi David,
I've sent this directly to you, as you can't send attachments to the
list. I'm a bit short of time to write an essay, so just drummed up a
sample.
The sample isn't the only way to do it, but maybe will give you some ideas.
The key is the check for if (HtmlPage.IsEnabled), where the service
locator sets the mock data if false. When in blend,
HtmlPage.IsEnabled = false. Of course, you can do this where ever you
want in your code base. You don't necessarily have to use a service
locator, or set the datacontext in the same manner.
If you open the project in blend, you will see the data displayed is
all mock data. If you run it from VS you will see 'live' data. Of
course the live data is a fudge in this case but should give you the
idea.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers.
Ross
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thought I'd check how others are displaying design time data. There are 2
ways that I go about it
1.
Just setting the design time datacontext to a sampledata.xaml file
grid d:Datacontext={SamleData.Xaml}
2.
Doing it similar to how Jordan shows in his presentations
View
ViewModel
Repository (Runtime, DesignTime, etc)
(RVVM)
The first option is nice and quick and easy to do, but it doesn't help
you
unit test your ViewModel at all.
The 2nd option is good, but as far as I know depends on your ViewModel
loading the data in the constructor.
I am at a client where they load the data up as a seperate call, not in
the
constructor. Any tips on how I could still use the repository pattern,
but
still be able to load the data without anything in the constructor.
Doesn't
seem possible to me.
-David Burela
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Re: Design time data
This probably won't affect any of you, but just to add to this I found a
similar issue with a WPF Blend Add-in. IsInDesignTool was returning true at
runtime. Which sort of makes sense (but still wrong), since I was still
'inside of the design tool'. Anyway, I never bother debugging it and just
went with a SampleData ViewModel approach...
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Peter Blois pete...@microsoft.com wrote:
+1 to IsInDesignTool- HtmlPage.IsEnabled was the workaround from
Silverlight 2 ages, it will generate false positives when running out of
browser (and other scenarios).
Pete
*From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Gfader
*Sent:* Monday, August 16, 2010 11:25 PM
*To:* ozSilverlight
*Subject:* Re: Design time data
+1 to
if (DesignerProperties.IsInDesignTool)
{
// create sample data for designer
}
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com
wrote:
We have to be careful with HtmlPage.IsEnabled. That was the way to do it in
Silverlight 2, however this will break Out of Browser. Not a big issue if
you don't care about OOB, but just something to keep in mind.
Try DesignerProperties.IsInDesignTool. This should work for both VS and
Blend.
@David, there are a couple more options
1. Create Sample Data from class option in Blend. To be honest I don't like
it and find it quite limited, but it's still an option.
2. Using a DesignTime ViewModel. Using a d:DataContext and set it to create
an instance of your type.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote:
Hi David,
I've sent this directly to you, as you can't send attachments to the
list. I'm a bit short of time to write an essay, so just drummed up a
sample.
The sample isn't the only way to do it, but maybe will give you some ideas.
The key is the check for if (HtmlPage.IsEnabled), where the service
locator sets the mock data if false. When in blend,
HtmlPage.IsEnabled = false. Of course, you can do this where ever you
want in your code base. You don't necessarily have to use a service
locator, or set the datacontext in the same manner.
If you open the project in blend, you will see the data displayed is
all mock data. If you run it from VS you will see 'live' data. Of
course the live data is a fudge in this case but should give you the
idea.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers.
Ross
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thought I'd check how others are displaying design time data. There are 2
ways that I go about it
1.
Just setting the design time datacontext to a sampledata.xaml file
grid d:Datacontext={SamleData.Xaml}
2.
Doing it similar to how Jordan shows in his presentations
View
ViewModel
Repository (Runtime, DesignTime, etc)
(RVVM)
The first option is nice and quick and easy to do, but it doesn't help
you
unit test your ViewModel at all.
The 2nd option is good, but as far as I know depends on your ViewModel
loading the data in the constructor.
I am at a client where they load the data up as a seperate call, not in
the
constructor. Any tips on how I could still use the repository pattern,
but
still be able to load the data without anything in the constructor.
Doesn't
seem possible to me.
-David Burela
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Re: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010
Uploading it raw is easy, but the time consuming bit comes in ... Trying to make Miguel look good, editing the awkward silences and mistakes Thanks for recording it :) Please let me know once it's there to add a link from the SDDN site. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.comwrote: Uploading it raw is easy, but the time consuming bit comes in when I clean up all of the audio and have to render the entire video again. I managed to clear out a lot of the background noise, makes it easy to listen to than the constant hum of fluorescent lights. I've got the SDDN video, a 5 Cloudcamp lightning talks + unpanel, my talk on Window Phone 7 UI guidelines, and tomorrow's Alt.Net lightning talks to clean up and upload after teched. -David Burela On 17 August 2010 14:21, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Oh, yes please! No hurry on when you upload it. Alternatively I can grab it from you at Teched via thumbdrive (assuming I find you among all those people :) I'll be at the UserGroup stand spreading the Silverlight word (Thursday afternoon, but probably other times too) cheers, Stephen On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:09 AM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com wrote: Also, for those that missed the Melbourne SDDN, I recorded it. I just won't be able to upload the video for another 1-2 weeks (TechEd preparation, etc.) -David Burela On 11 August 2010 11:19, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback and I had in mind something similar. Not sure about Graffiti (what we're using for sddn.org.au), but I'm sure it will have something similar to categories in Wordpress and we could have RSS feeds for each category and provide a link to those on the home page. Thanks Miguel On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Asheesh Soni asheeshs...@gmail.com wrote: The best option would be a reliable and unified RSS feed with filtering so for example, I could subscribe to all Silverligth events in Melbourne at http://OneUnifiedRSSFeedForEvents.com/AU/Melbourne/Silverlight/feed.rss :) On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I'm sorry about this. Right now we have different places where we're publishing the events (Facebook group, Twitter, OzSilverlight, sddn.org.au and for Sydney sydney.sddn.org.au). I think we should list everything on sddn.org.au, but I'm sure there're others who would only check the OzSilverlight or only the Facebook group. Considering that, in the meantime we should continue using different mediums to try to reach as most people, but have all those places link to the website... I'm open for opinions. For future events we'll make sure we announce it better and with more time. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Asheesh Soni asheeshs...@gmail.com wrote: Could some one please let me know the url to subscribe for the User group meeting notifications? http://sddn.org.au/meetings/ did not mention it. http://twitter.com/vdnug appears to have died on April 28th I could not find it on Victoria.NET Dev SIG Events either? Was waiting for the meeting for a while, did not check ozsilverlight for a couple of days and now realised that I missed another one :( B.T.W., I emailed my details to i...@victoriadotnet.com.au a while ago but I'dont think I am still a member or get any notifications about vic.net meetings. Any ideas? Thanks On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Just forwarding this e-mail in case you missed it from the Vic.Net list. From: Victoria .NET on behalf of SDDN [mailto:i...@sddn.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:57 PM To: Mahesh S. Krishnan Subject: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010 Next Meeting - Monday August 2nd, 2010 Productivity Tools and Techniques for Silverlight - Miguel Madero During this presentation Miguel will share with us some of the tools and techniques used during the day to day Silverlight Development. Some of these tools will help us design, debug and keep our code neat and simple. Some of the topics covered are: Http Sniffing Visual Design Debugging Silverlight Assemblies Removing the need for INotifyPropertyChanged Advanced Silverlight Debugging Avoiding Code Generation of Web Services When: Monday 2nd August 2010 Time: is 5:30 PM for Pizzas and networking. Presentation starts 6:00 PM Place: Microsoft Theatre. Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. Miguel has been programming for fun for the last 15 years when he realized that it was better to play with QBasic and Pascal than Prince of Persia. He found out that he could actually get some money out
Re: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010
I'm sorry about this. Right now we have different places where we're publishing the events (Facebook group, Twitter, OzSilverlight, sddn.org.auand for Sydney sydney.sddn.org.au). I think we should list everything on sddn.org.au, but I'm sure there're others who would only check the OzSilverlight or only the Facebook group. Considering that, in the meantime we should continue using different mediums to try to reach as most people, but have all those places link to the website... I'm open for opinions. For future events we'll make sure we announce it better and with more time. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Asheesh Soni asheeshs...@gmail.com wrote: Could some one please let me know the url to subscribe for the User group meeting notifications? http://sddn.org.au/meetings/ did not mention it. http://twitter.com/vdnug appears to have died on April 28th I could not find it on Victoria.NET Dev SIG Events either? Was waiting for the meeting for a while, did not check ozsilverlight for a couple of days and now realised that I missed another one :( B.T.W., I emailed my details to i...@victoriadotnet.com.au a while ago but I'dont think I am still a member or get any notifications about vic.net meetings. Any ideas? Thanks On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Just forwarding this e-mail in case you missed it from the Vic.Net list. From: Victoria .NET on behalf of SDDN [mailto:i...@sddn.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:57 PM To: Mahesh S. Krishnan Subject: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010 Next Meeting - Monday August 2nd, 2010 Productivity Tools and Techniques for Silverlight - Miguel Madero During this presentation Miguel will share with us some of the tools and techniques used during the day to day Silverlight Development. Some of these tools will help us design, debug and keep our code neat and simple. Some of the topics covered are: Http Sniffing Visual Design Debugging Silverlight Assemblies Removing the need for INotifyPropertyChanged Advanced Silverlight Debugging Avoiding Code Generation of Web Services When: Monday 2nd August 2010 Time: is 5:30 PM for Pizzas and networking. Presentation starts 6:00 PM Place: Microsoft Theatre. Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. Miguel has been programming for fun for the last 15 years when he realized that it was better to play with QBasic and Pascal than Prince of Persia. He found out that he could actually get some money out of this hobby so he started a couple of web companies 5 years later and then a Development Shop before moving to Australia to work for Readify where he’s now having fun coding some of the coolest projects in Australia. He discovered Silverlight two years ago and it’s still keeping him busy and entertained. RSVP It is free to attend, but please RSVP to i...@sddn.org.au if you are coming. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010
Thanks for the feedback and I had in mind something similar. Not sure about Graffiti (what we're using for sddn.org.au), but I'm sure it will have something similar to categories in Wordpress and we could have RSS feeds for each category and provide a link to those on the home page. Thanks Miguel On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Asheesh Soni asheeshs...@gmail.comwrote: The best option would be a reliable and unified RSS feed with filtering so for example, I could subscribe to all Silverligth events in Melbourne at http://OneUnifiedRSSFeedForEvents.com/AU/Melbourne/Silverlight/feed.rss :) On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I'm sorry about this. Right now we have different places where we're publishing the events (Facebook group, Twitter, OzSilverlight, sddn.org.au and for Sydney sydney.sddn.org.au). I think we should list everything on sddn.org.au, but I'm sure there're others who would only check the OzSilverlight or only the Facebook group. Considering that, in the meantime we should continue using different mediums to try to reach as most people, but have all those places link to the website... I'm open for opinions. For future events we'll make sure we announce it better and with more time. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Asheesh Soni asheeshs...@gmail.com wrote: Could some one please let me know the url to subscribe for the User group meeting notifications? http://sddn.org.au/meetings/ did not mention it. http://twitter.com/vdnug appears to have died on April 28th I could not find it on Victoria.NET Dev SIG Events either? Was waiting for the meeting for a while, did not check ozsilverlight for a couple of days and now realised that I missed another one :( B.T.W., I emailed my details to i...@victoriadotnet.com.au a while ago but I'dont think I am still a member or get any notifications about vic.net meetings. Any ideas? Thanks On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Just forwarding this e-mail in case you missed it from the Vic.Net list. From: Victoria .NET on behalf of SDDN [mailto:i...@sddn.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:57 PM To: Mahesh S. Krishnan Subject: Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010 Next Meeting - Monday August 2nd, 2010 Productivity Tools and Techniques for Silverlight - Miguel Madero During this presentation Miguel will share with us some of the tools and techniques used during the day to day Silverlight Development. Some of these tools will help us design, debug and keep our code neat and simple. Some of the topics covered are: Http Sniffing Visual Design Debugging Silverlight Assemblies Removing the need for INotifyPropertyChanged Advanced Silverlight Debugging Avoiding Code Generation of Web Services When: Monday 2nd August 2010 Time: is 5:30 PM for Pizzas and networking. Presentation starts 6:00 PM Place: Microsoft Theatre. Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. Miguel has been programming for fun for the last 15 years when he realized that it was better to play with QBasic and Pascal than Prince of Persia. He found out that he could actually get some money out of this hobby so he started a couple of web companies 5 years later and then a Development Shop before moving to Australia to work for Readify where he’s now having fun coding some of the coolest projects in Australia. He discovered Silverlight two years ago and it’s still keeping him busy and entertained. RSVP It is free to attend, but please RSVP to i...@sddn.org.au if you are coming. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney August Meeting – 16th of August
Next monday we will have our SDDN meeting in Sydney. Here're the details. *When*: Monday August 16th, 2010, 6:00 pm to start 6:30 pm* Where*: City Hotel (maphttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=347+Kent+Streetsll=-33.867139,151.207114sspn=0.066921,0.125313ie=UTF8hq=hnear=347+Kent+St,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australiaz=17) 347 Kent Street (Corner of King Street). Second floor at the Kent Street Living Room. *Cost: *Free, but please RSVPhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=70337428577#!/event.php?eid=149910268353431ref=mf *What: *two great presentations, networking and good discussions over a great meal and beers. This month we will have a great Windows Phone 7 presentation by Ducas Francis and some premium Tech Ed quality content by Chris Anderson. Here are the details. A day in the life of a Metro developer by Ducas Francis http://blog.duc.as/ What is Metro? How do I get started on Windows Phone 7? What cool things does it’s API let me do? And why would I come to a Silverlight user group to hear about this…? Take a journey with me through the phone. See what it has to offer. Dig deeper, past the UI, into the UX, and further to the API. Ducas lives and breathes .Net. He is a Senior Consultant working for Readify for the past 3 years. He enjoys long walks on the beach and sunsets, but only if he can read twitter and RSS feeds along the way. Running Silverlight Outside the Browser and with Elevated Trust by Chris Anderson http://chrisa.wordpress.com/ Silverlight 3 introduced the ability to run your Silverlight applications outside the browser, and Silverlight 4 takes this one step further by enabling you to run your application with elevated trust. Silverlight is no longer a sandboxed browser-only platform now. This session will take you through the new possibilities enabled by this feature, including toast notifications, custom chrome, COM access, and direct file system access. Chris Anderson has been a professional developer for over 10 years now, specializing in building desktop, web, and mobile business applications using Microsoft technologies for industries as wide ranging as accounting, property valuation, mining, the fresh produce industry, pet cremations, logistics, field services, sales, and construction. Now running his own business (Peer Placements http://www.peerplacements.com.au/, as co-director) he has turned to Silverlight as the ideal new technology for developing and deploying business applications. Chris is the author of two upcoming books – Pro Business Applications in Silverlight 4 (Apress), and Professional Visual Studio 2010 (Wrox, as coauthor). -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Invalid XML (addendum)
If you can use System.Interactivity, I would suggest to use a CallMethodAction Behavior instead of Commands. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:16 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cauldwell.net/patrick/blog/MVVMBindingToCommandsInSilverlight.aspx here is a plain/no frills example of Silverlight 3 ICommand button service very plain, no junk, just an example for how to hook up a command to a button in SL 3 I downloaded the code and ran it and it worked fine for me On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: http://slextensions.codeplex.com/SourceControl/changeset/view/35533#395012 OK! I manually copied over Command, CommandService, CommandSusbcription and some other related EventArgs classes to my project. Following the sample XAML in their project which binds a Button to a command in the controller, I wired it all up and clicked the Button... And nothings happens. I’ve shuffled code around and tried every trick I can think of to coax it into life, but the command doesn’t fire, nothing happens. I’ve spent about 5 solid hours of my spare time over the last week trying to get a SL3 binding from a click event in the control to a method in my controller. I’ve waded through hundreds of web pages, I’ve tried various versions of DelegateCommand, RelayCommand and now these codeplex extensions. They all either do nothing, or cause catastrophic exceptions or break the Blend 3 designer. The closest I came was with RelayCommand, which actually works at runtime and I get bound method is invoked, but the Command= element is not recognised and breaks Blend. The ever dwindling remaining part of my lifespan is draining away before my eyes as I spend hours (and days sometimes) trying to make the simplest things work in Silverlight and WPF. I’m always plugging holes, or finding workarounds, or searching the web for bizarre techniques or error messages. I’ve spent more time f***ing around than I have actually writing productive code in these platforms over the last 3 years. Attempting to follow the MVVM pattern has by far wasted the most time recently. Has anyone out there got a simple working example of an SL3 project where a Button click invokes a method in the controller? I’m at the point of exhaustion and wondering what else I can do in life. Greg Ps. My video card overheated at 9:30 this morning and died. I had to drive for an hour to get a replacement on Sunday morning. Now my left monitor has a quadruple sized mouse cursor that I can’t get rid of. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010
Just forwarding this e-mail in case you missed it from the Vic.Net list. *From:* Victoria .NET on behalf of SDDN [mailto:i...@sddn.org.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:57 PM *To:* Mahesh S. Krishnan *Subject:* Next Vic.NET/SDDN Meeting: Monday 2nd August, 2010 Next Meeting - Monday August 2nd, 2010 Productivity Tools and Techniques for Silverlight - Miguel Madero During this presentation Miguel will share with us some of the tools and techniques used during the day to day Silverlight Development. Some of these tools will help us design, debug and keep our code neat and simple. Some of the topics covered are: - Http Sniffing - Visual Design Debugging - Silverlight Assemblies - Removing the need for INotifyPropertyChanged - Advanced Silverlight Debugging - Avoiding Code Generation of Web Services *When:* Monday 2nd August 2010 *Time:* is 5:30 PM for Pizzas and networking. Presentation starts 6:00 PM *Place:* Microsoft Theatre. Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. *Miguel has been programming for fun for the last 15 years when he realized that it was better to play with QBasic and Pascal than Prince of Persia. He found out that he could actually get some money out of this hobby so he started a couple of web companies 5 years later and then a Development Shop before moving to Australia to work for Readify where he’s now having fun coding some of the coolest projects in Australia. He discovered Silverlight two years ago and it’s still keeping him busy and entertained.* RSVP It is free to attend, but please RSVP to i...@sddn.org.au if you are coming. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: ResourceDictionary cannot find key
Not sure how the Telerik Theme's work, but I think the issue might be in
another place.
Do you an internal exception?
Could you share the code inside GridView.xaml? I'm thinking it might have
another dependency.
Could you check in Reflector that you actual have the resource in the
expected location? It should be inside AssemblyName.g.resources with the key
themes/Telerik.Windows.Controls.GridView.xaml
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM, ton...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Hi all,
I am having trouble with a ResourceDictionary that contains
MergedDictionaries.
Basically, I am attempting to create a theme for Telerik controls, however
that should be irrelevant
as the problem is with ResourceDictionary.
I copied in all the theme information from one of their sample themes into
an external assembly
that I have referenced from within my project.
All the xaml files have their Build Action set to Resource.
The theme project has a class in it with the theme name and the BuiltIn
attribute set, as follows:
[ThemeLocation(ThemeLocation.BuiltIn)]
public class AcmeDefaultTheme : Telerik.Windows.Controls.Theme
{
public AcmeDefaultTheme()
{
//the following line is actually ignored because of the BuiltIn
attribute
//above!
this.Source = new
Uri(/Acme.RadControls.Theme;component/themes/Generic.xaml,
UriKind.Relative);
}
}
I have added the namespace to the xaml of the page where I want to use the
theme:
xmlns:brightstarTheme=clr-
namespace:Acme.RadControls.Theme;assembly=Acme.RadControls.Theme
I have made a reference to the theme in the resources section.
Firstly like this:
telerik:Theme x:Key=AcmeDefaultTheme
Source=/Acme.RadControls.Theme;component/Themes/Telerik.Windows.Controls.GridView.xaml
/
and secondly I tried this:
acmeTheme:AcmeDefaultTheme x:Key=AcmeDefaultTheme /
In the grid tag, I have added the style:
telerik:RadGridView x:Name=grdProducts ItemsSource={Binding
PagedItemList, Source=
{StaticResource PFOViewModel}} IsFilteringAllowed=True
AutoGenerateColumns=False
FrozenColumnCount=6 Grid.Row=4 Grid.Column=0 AutoExpandGroups=True
ShowGroupPanel=False
telerik:StyleManager.Theme={StaticResource AcmeDefaultTheme}
Everything compiles ok, however when I run the application, I get the
following error:
Failed to assign to property 'System.Windows.ResourceDictionary.Source'...
with the more detailed error of:
A
ResourceDictionary
'/Acme.RadControls.Theme;component/Themes/Telerik.Windows.Controls.Grid
View.xaml'
cannot be found. Please make sure that references to the needed theme
assemblies have been
added to the project.
The problem is that this xaml resources file DOES exist at the location
specified.
Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Regards,
Tony
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Sydney SDDN Meeting Tomorrow
Just a quick reminder to everyone, we're having the Sydney SDDN Meeting tomorrow. More details here http://sydney.sddn.org.au/, keep in mind we changed to the City Hotelhttp://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342site=sydneysddn.wordpress.comurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2Fmaps%3Ff%3Dq%26source%3Ds_q%26hl%3Den%26geocode%3D%26q%3D347%2BKent%2BStreet%26sll%3D-33.867139%2C151.207114%26sspn%3D0.066921%2C0.125313%26ie%3DUTF8%26hq%3D%26hnear%3D347%2BKent%2BSt%2C%2BSydney%2BNew%2BSouth%2BWales%2B2000%2C%2BAustralia%26z%3D17sref=http%3A%2F%2Fsydney.sddn.org.au%2F (Kent cnr with King Street). Please RSVP on the facebook grouphttp://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=134145436608171. See you there tomorrow. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney July Meeting - Moved to the 19th of July
*When*: July 19th, 2010, 6:00 pm to start 6:30 pm* Where*: City Hotel (maphttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=347+Kent+Streetsll=-33.867139,151.207114sspn=0.066921,0.125313ie=UTF8hq=hnear=347+Kent+St,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australiaz=17) 347 Kent Street (Corner of King Street). Second floor at the Kent Street Living Room. *Cost: *Free *Prizes: *We have 1 Expression Suite License and a book to give away. *What: *Networking, one presentation (TBA) and an open discussion. *Please notice that we changed the usual date and venue. * ** -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Deploying RIA service for Silverlight 4
To avoid having to have the file there you probably need to change the IIS extension mapping for .svc. From memory there's a checkbox to indicate that IIS shouldn't verify that the file exists. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Vinay Tripathi vinay.tripa...@nab.com.auwrote: Thanks for the input, I just managed to solve it, in the end I had to do few things 1- Make sure that the Authentication mode in Web.config matched to the one in IIS (in my case Windows + Integrated Windows Mode + Anonymous off) 2- Make sure all the ria related dlls are copied local so that they exist in bin directory if RIA is not installed on the server 1- System.ComponentModel.DataAnnotations 2- System.ServiceModel.DomainServices.EntityFramework 3- System.ServiceModel.DomainServices.Hosting 4- System.ServiceModel.DomainServices.Server 3- Make sure that you have a physical file exist in the client bin (the name of the file should be in this format – [Namespace]-[ServiceName].svc 4- Make sure you have following entry in this svc file %@ ServiceHost Service=Namespcse.ClassName Factory=System.ServiceModel.DomainServices.Hosting.DomainServiceHostFactory % Once that’s done, all working fine for me JJJ * am a happy man again !* *Regards,* *_* *Vinay Tripathi | Senior Analyst Programmer | Specialised Finance | Wholesale Banking | National Australia Bank** *Level 31, 500 Bourke St Melbourne | Tel: +61 3 8641 4225 | Mobile: 0422 287 628 Email: vinay.tripa...@nab.com.au *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Thursday, 24 June 2010 2:33 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Deploying RIA service for Silverlight 4 If you put a file on the server and its still not serving it out, sounds like a misconfig on IIS but can't help you what that might be. you've probably figured that much out already. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Vinay Tripathi vinay.tripa...@nab.com.au wrote: Sorry, I should have been much clearer, when I say dynamically created, it means the svc file doesn’t physically exist on the file system. When my xap request some data from this svc, it creates a url in the format for http://mysite/page.html/ClientBin/Namspace-ServiceName.svc/binary/query Now I can browse to this svc url on my local machine which is using IIS5 but I can’t browse to this svc on IIS 6. I also tried to drop a file with the same name which following text %@ ServiceHost Service=MyNamspace.AppDataService Factory=System.ServiceModel.DomainServices.Hosting.DomainServiceHostFactory % But no luck LL *Regards,* *_* *Vinay Tripathi | Senior Analyst Programmer | Specialised Finance | Wholesale Banking | National Australia Bank** *Level 31, 500 Bourke St Melbourne | Tel: +61 3 8641 4225 | Mobile: 0422 287 628 Email: vinay.tripa...@nab.com.au *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Thursday, 24 June 2010 1:59 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Deploying RIA service for Silverlight 4 Can you browse to that service url in a browser? I'm pretty sure you should be able to but I'm not sure what you mean when you say dynamically created svc file. Do you mean its generated or something else? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Vinay Tripathi vinay.tripa...@nab.com.au wrote: Hi Guys, I have just ran into some issues when I am deploying my ria service to our test server which is Windows 2003 and IIS6. My Silverlight app runs fine locally on IIS 5 and Windows xp but as soon as I deploy it to our test box, I am getting 404 error on dynamically created svc file. Some information about setup: 1- I have set the ria dlls to be copied locally as ria in not installed on Win 2003 2- I am using Windows Authentication and IIS is set to Integrated Windows with Anonymous off Error message from fiddler: [EndpointNotFoundException]: The service #39;/ClientBin/National-eALOC-DataServices-Services-AppDataService.svc#39; does not exist. at System.ServiceModel.ServiceHostingEnvironment.HostingManager.EnsureServiceAvailable(String normalizedVirtualPath) at System.ServiceModel.ServiceHostingEnvironment.EnsureServiceAvailableFast(String relativeVirtualPath) at System.ServiceModel.Activation.HostedHttpRequestAsyncResult.HandleRequest() at System.ServiceModel.Activation.HostedHttpRequestAsyncResult.BeginRequest() [HttpException]: The service #39;/ClientBin/National-eALOC-DataServices-Services-AppDataService.svc#39; does not exist. at System.Runtime.AsyncResult.End[TAsyncResult](IAsyncResult result) at System.ServiceModel.Activation.HostedHttpRequestAsyncResult.End(IAsyncResult
Re: Lots of bind/notify classes
I just saw everyone was alredy talking about PostSharp. Sorry I should read
the thread before replying.
BTW, it doesn't affect Blendability.
I can live with what Steven suggested, of having that extra line bit of code
for each property, but it gets a bit messy when you have derived properties.
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote:
For the VMs I'm using an AOP (using CastleDynamicProxy for Debug and
PostSharp for Release) to automatically do this for me. Jonas
bloggedhttp://jonas.follesoe.no/AutomaticINPCUsingDynamicProxyAndNinject.aspxabout
this approach. For PostSharp, I don't have a link, but I could send
you a code that works for VS08 and SL3.
Also in a somewhat related topic you might want to have a look at
MicroModels http://www.paulstovell.com/micromodels-introduction.
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:
*Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think
you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over*–
HAL (2001)
I was wondering if anyone has found a nice way of creating/managing lots
of classes that are suitable for binding and implement
INotifyPropertyChanged. As you know, you have to keep coding properties like
this:
public string CompanyName
{
get {return this.companyNameValue;}
set
{
if (value != this.companyNameValue)
{
this.companyNameValue = value;
NotifyPropertyChanged(CompanyName);
}
}
}
You can create a simple base class to factor out the event, but not much
else, as there is no way I know of to intercept any arbitrary property
setter and add custom processing. Is that right?! Coding the above skeleton
dozens or hundreds of times gets tedious and I’m hoping there’s a better
way. I did consider using a T4 generator to spit out the classes, but that’s
an obtuse way around the problem and will require extra research time (but I
see others have done it already).
I have dozens of existing classes with dozens of properties and I’d like
to use them for binding, but I’d have to expand every property to be like
the same above, which would be hell.
Greg
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Re: Lots of bind/notify classes
+1 for live templates. I like that it u can use a convention to name
ur fields with the camelcase version of ur prop name.
The other thing consider is using an expression for the
propertychanged method instead of passing a string. That makes
refactoring easier.
RaisePropertyChanged(()=LastName);
Sent from my iPhone
On 28/05/2010, at 6:19 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com
wrote:
+1 Resharper. That's exactly my process for creating those
properties. One day I'll actually write a propOp live template to do
the rest of it for me. I think that everytime I create a property...
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Steven Nagy
steven.n...@readify.net wrote:
I might add, that even if you don’t want to introduce Post# then the
simple base class + Resharper combination is pretty good.
For example, your base class has some methods for raising property
changed events. Then your ViewModel needs a property for first name.
You use the “prop” code snippet, this expands out very quickly to:
public string FirstName { get; set; }
Then ALT+Enter with Resharper lets you convert to backing field in
total 3 keystrokes:
private string _firstName;
public string FirstName
{
get { return _firstName; }
set { _firstName = value; }
}
Then a single call to property changed:
private string _firstName;
public string FirstName
{
get { return _firstName; }
set { _firstName = value; PropertyChanged(FirstName); }
}
Not so bad, very minimal keystrokes.
Steven Nagy
Readify | Senior Developer
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-
boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Steven Nagy
Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 4:25 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Lots of bind/notify classes
Check out Post#:
http://www.sharpcrafters.com/postsharp/documentation/getting-started
Example:
http://ruskin-dantra.blogspot.com/2009/03/inotifypropertychanged-made-easier.html
Not sure if this works in Silverlight land though.
Steven Nagy
Readify | Senior Developer
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-
boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 4:18 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: Lots of bind/notify classes
Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly
think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think
things over – HAL (2001)
I was wondering if anyone has found a nice way of creating/managing
lots of classes that are suitable for binding and implement
INotifyPropertyChanged. As you know, you have to keep coding
properties like this:
public string CompanyName
{
get {return this.companyNameValue;}
set
{
if (value != this.companyNameValue)
{
this.companyNameValue = value;
NotifyPropertyChanged(CompanyName);
}
}
}
You can create a simple base class to factor out the event, but not
much else, as there is no way I know of to intercept any arbitrary
property setter and add custom processing. Is that right?! Coding
the above skeleton dozens or hundreds of times gets tedious and I’m
hoping there’s a better way. I did consider using a T4 generator to
spit out the classes, but that’s an obtuse way around the problem an
d will require extra research time (but I see others have done it al
ready).
I have dozens of existing classes with dozens of properties and I’d
like to use them for binding, but I’d have to expand every property
to be like the same above, which would be hell.
Greg
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Re: Long running animation
Greg, You could probably use a simple DoubleAnimation using an EasingFunction. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I want to create a sort of screen saver effect where a shape moves slowly around a control. The path it follows is calculated at start time by mixing random Sin/Cos functions, then the shape will follow the (x,y) coordinates of the function over time. It’s like a moving parametric plot. I’m just not sure what coding technique to use for this effect. I’m guessing I’ll need a frame-based animation, which I’ve never used before. It looks like it “pushes” events to you and you respond and move your elements, but it’s not clear how you control the timing. I just want to run this idea past someone who’s done it before and can confirm if I’m on the right track or not. I’ll keep reading about frame-based animations in the meantime. Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Validation on non visible datagrid
Has been a while without using CSLA, but have a look at IDataErrorInfo. I think CSLA already uses it. Once you moved to IDEI it will be easier to move to INDEI. I don't think that would solve the issue the lock, but at least it would solve the original issue you mentioned on this thread. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Silverlight 3 (at the moment, not sure when the schedule to upgrade to 4 is yet). We're using Data annotations though so will have a look at the Validator class. We're using CSLA so it was tricky getting it working. One thing I've noticed is that when you get an error in the datagrid it won't let you change the selected item, its like it locks the selected item as the first item that gets an error. I'm really hoping SL4 has a nicer friendlier datagrid. I've heard it is better so looking forward to the upgrade. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: How are you implementing validation? Data annotations, or manually? If you're using Silverlight 4 and doing it manually, then Miguel's response is probably best. If you are using data annotations, then use the Validator class to validate the selected item in the DataGrid. But in Silverlight 3 + manually, I think you're out of luck (I think, but don't know for sure in terms of the DataGrid) - handling that sort of situation is just one of the big problems with the exception based validation model as it was implemented in Silverlight 2/3... Chris On 11 May 2010 12:59, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Could you consider using INotifyDataErrorInfo or at least IDataErrorInfo? This scenario is trickier with ValidatesOnException. INotifyDataErrorInfo is the best way to do it and there're no changes needed to your bindings (as you need to for ValidatesOnException and IDataErrorInfo) -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Validation on non visible datagrid
Could you consider using INotifyDataErrorInfo or at least IDataErrorInfo? This scenario is trickier with ValidatesOnException. INotifyDataErrorInfo is the best way to do it and there're no changes needed to your bindings (as you need to for ValidatesOnException and IDataErrorInfo) -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Validation on non visible datagrid
AFAIR SL3 supports IDataErrorInfo, which should also solve this problem. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Keyup event
I'm intrigued now. Do you have a mani sample that you could share that replicates this issue? -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Keyup event
Is the TextProperty databound? Is your object and IEditableObject? Could you remove the binding just to see if there's still an issue? -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: DataGrids
Do you have more details on this issue? Is the issue that the TextChanged handler is call once for each textbox? What's the problem with the navigation? -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney April Meeting
Just a quick reminder about our May meetinghttp://sydney.sddn.org.au/2010/04/29/sddn-sydney-may-meeting/. Keep in mind that we changed the venue. ** *When*: May 4th, 2010, 6:00 pm* Where*: Crown Hotel (maphttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=162+Elizabeth+Street,+Sydney,+Australiaie=UTF8hq=hnear=162+Elizabeth+St,+Sydney+NSW+2000,+Australiaz=16iwloc=A) in 162 Elizabeth Street Level 2. *Cost: *Free, but please RSVPhttp://www.facebook.com/event.php?inviteseid=105897519447617 * What: *Networking, two talks and some gifts. *Parking: *there’s cheap parking after 6:00 pm in the opposite corner of the Hotel on Elizabeth Street. This month we will have two real talks + a bonus lightning talk (if Chris leaves some time). Paul Stovell http://www.paulstovell.com/ will talk about Magellan http://www.paulstovell.com/magellan and Chris Andersonhttp://chrisa.wordpress.com/will tell us what’s new in the latest release of Silverlight. Also, I http://www.miguelmadero.com/ will be doing a quick talk on Design for Blendability going through some of the new features in Blend 4. Please keep in mind that we’re NOT in Cynergy this month and we switched back the meeting to our previous venuehttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=162+Elizabeth+Street,+Sydney,+Australiaie=UTF8hq=hnear=162+Elizabeth+St,+Sydney+NSW+2000,+Australiaz=16iwloc=Ain Elizabeth street. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Mouseclick in ListBox
Would it work if you just subscribe to the click event of the outter panel? Can you send the code of your ItemTemplate. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:58 PM, danlaz...@arcamis.com wrote: Greg, Shame EventSetters don't seem to work. You've probably seen this already, but a quick google provided this possible semi-code-behind approach - http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/p/94976/292325.aspx *From:* Greg Keogh g...@mira.net *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 9:49 PM *To:* 'ozSilverlight' ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Mouseclick in ListBox Not 100% sure if its the same in Silverlight but I think this should work ItemContainerStyle doesn’t seem to work and searches hint that the EventSetter isn’t available for Silverlight. I’ve seen a few pages were people use behaviours to get a similar effect. I’m studying them now. Which reminds me ... In my attempts to use binding everywhere possible I still haven’t figured out which is the most elegant way of binding commands (button clicks etc) so as to remove all event handlers from control code-behind. Some people use a wrapper class, some use attached properties, and they all argue with each other. Can anyone cut though the noise on this issue and recommend the best way of binding command handlers? Greg -- ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
I followed this posthttp://strepas.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8D365142BC4869AB!161.entry?wa=wsignin1.0sa=29424176 and created a base VHD with Windows 7 with my configuration (e.g. taskbar at the left, google as my homepage, etc) and common tools (e.g. Tortoise, GIT, FileZilla, Skype, Live, VS08) and then everytime I need another OS, I just create a new VHD based on that one, boot in 1 minute and start installing the new software. It's awesome and I didn't noticed a performance hit. If you plan to do it, use that post a step by step guide. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: /Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment. My lawyers will contact you. I’m suing your for deformation. Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Closing childwindow
The binding is updated on lost focus not on TextChanged, however you can force this doing something like this on your keypress: txt.GetBinding(TextBox.Text).UpdateSource(); On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.netwrote: Maybe have a play with UpdateSourceTrigger and BindingExpression… http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.data.binding.updatesourcetrigger(VS.95).aspx *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 April 2010 3:57 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Closing childwindow Hey all, I've hit what seems to be a race condition, I've got a login usercontrol which uses a ChildWindow. when the user presses enter on the passwordbox I check if the key == key.enter and if the password is not blank I set the this.DialogResult = true; which seems to be closing the ChildWindow before the databinding has updated the underlaying property. Net result is if user presses enter then the password is null even if they have typed in a password. I've tried both keydown and keyup with same outcome. Any suggestions on how I can get it to close the window after the databinding has done its thing? Alternatively perhaps invoke the click event on the OK button . Any ideas? cheers, Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Closing childwindow
I wrote a behavior to change the time the text gets update, it basically subscribes to the TextChanged event and does the update explicitly. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Thanks guys, Bit of reading and playing and have got it working by doing exactly that. Wasn't sure why setting it to PropertyChanged wasn't working but it looks like the only two values (in SL3.0) are Explicit and default. There's only one place where I want the value updated (and it hasn't lost focus) so doing the UpdateSource is fine and works. thanks again! :) cheers, Stephen a On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: The binding is updated on lost focus not on TextChanged, however you can force this doing something like this on your keypress: txt.GetBinding(TextBox.Text).UpdateSource(); On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Maybe have a play with UpdateSourceTrigger and BindingExpression… http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.data.binding.updatesourcetrigger(VS.95).aspx *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 April 2010 3:57 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Closing childwindow Hey all, I've hit what seems to be a race condition, I've got a login usercontrol which uses a ChildWindow. when the user presses enter on the passwordbox I check if the key == key.enter and if the password is not blank I set the this.DialogResult = true; which seems to be closing the ChildWindow before the databinding has updated the underlaying property. Net result is if user presses enter then the password is null even if they have typed in a password. I've tried both keydown and keyup with same outcome. Any suggestions on how I can get it to close the window after the databinding has done its thing? Alternatively perhaps invoke the click event on the OK button . Any ideas? cheers, Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney April Meeting
*When*: April 6th, 2010, 6:00 pm* Where*: Suite 1 Ground Floor. 439-441 Kent Street (maphttp://www.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Suite+1+Ground+Floor.+439-441+Kent+Streetsll=-33.866433,151.189163sspn=0.009283,0.017488ie=UTF8hq=hnear=1%2F439-441+Kent+St,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australiall=-33.872072,151.204705spn=0.009282,0.017488z=16). *Cost: *Free, but please RSVPhttp://www.facebook.com/event.php?inviteseid=105897519447617on our Facebook group http://www.facebook.com/event.php?inviteseid=105897519447617 to get enough pizza. *What: *Networking, two talks, some gifts, pizza and beers (BYO). This month Jose Fajardohttp://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/josefajardoand Chris Anderson http://chrisa.wordpress.com/ will talk about all the exciting news released at Mix10. Jose has been playing with the Windows Phone for some time and will tell us everything about the development experience. Chris has been awake from the first day of Mix watching the live keynotes, all the recordings, writing like crazy and playing with the new tools just to give us the best summary of all of the new features in Silverlight 4. Mix10 was probably the best Mix ever thanks to all the big announcements and great content, so we’ll try to use it to make this one of the best SDDN meetings. You can’t miss it. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
WinPhone is still SL3 :( By the release it might be SL4 or SL5... hopefully in the next update of the WinP tools this will change -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
I love my iPhone, but after playing a bit with the phone I can say it might
be a good alternative.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:
I remember buying a Windows Mobile phone some years ago, with excitement, I
was looking forward to writing some apps for it. I think I wrote one. It
calculated if it was cheaper to buy bottles of coke or cans of coke.
I think I'll stick with my iPhone this time around. I've learned my
lesson... just because you can write something doesn't necessarily mean you
will. :)
cheers,
Stephen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:46 PM, carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au wrote:
Surely Windows Mobile 7 will finally get me off my @ss and coding some
Silverlight 4 (and XNA)…
Carl.
*From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang
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*Sent:* Wednesday, 31 March 2010 4:36 PM
*To:* ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
I think these are one of the many gripes I had with 3 and my lack of
motivation to write an actual SL app.
I know I'll be frustrated as hell moving from WPF down to SL3, with these
subtlties in the way. But hopefully SL4 becomes the starting path for me.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:
You can use the Silverlight toolkit to apply your theme.xaml file and then
put implicit styles in that theme file.
Its funny, I was surprised you couldn't do it, had forgotten I was using
the toolkit to apply my implicit styles. Glad its part of SL4.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote:
In WPF you can do this in say your app.xaml or in a merged dictionary:
Application.Resources
Style TargetType=Button
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
/Application.Resources
And all buttons will be red unless the style is overridden.
This doesn't work in Silverlight 3. You have to name the style then
reference it as a static resource:
Style TargetType=Button x:Name=buttonStyle
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
Button Style={StaticResource buttonStyle}/Button
Of course you can do this via the UI in Blend as well.
I think it might be possible to set implicit styles in Silverlight 4
but haven't tried.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net
wrote:
In WPF you can set global styles but in SIlverlight it's
right+click+Apply
Style right? ie i'm not high in thinking that am I?
J
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Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
SL4 does this OOB. The ImplicitStyleManager was deprecated. SL4 is so close
to be released that I would suggest to use it for any new development even
if its just for this feature.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:
You can use the Silverlight toolkit to apply your theme.xaml file and then
put implicit styles in that theme file.
Its funny, I was surprised you couldn't do it, had forgotten I was using
the toolkit to apply my implicit styles. Glad its part of SL4.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote:
In WPF you can do this in say your app.xaml or in a merged dictionary:
Application.Resources
Style TargetType=Button
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
/Application.Resources
And all buttons will be red unless the style is overridden.
This doesn't work in Silverlight 3. You have to name the style then
reference it as a static resource:
Style TargetType=Button x:Name=buttonStyle
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
Button Style={StaticResource buttonStyle}/Button
Of course you can do this via the UI in Blend as well.
I think it might be possible to set implicit styles in Silverlight 4
but haven't tried.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net
wrote:
In WPF you can set global styles but in SIlverlight it's
right+click+Apply
Style right? ie i'm not high in thinking that am I?
J
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Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
The dev experience is great. I started playing with some apps and it was a breeze, having Silverlight experience it's really easy. You can do the UI in blend with some nice animations and databing everything to a viewmodel, etc. I didn't hear anything about the marketplace, the phones are coming out on the holiday season, so we still have a lot of time to get ready... probably a looong time before the phone hit the Oz market. I saw a couple of guys developing on an enumulator using a multi touch monitor, it's far from ideal, but it was nice to see. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Prism, how to switch Regions
It's hard to say without looking at some code. Here are a couple of ideas: * The region isn't properly registered or is misspelled. * The AboutModule isn't subscribing to the event or the event in the appropriate instance. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Button in a datagrid cell
:) On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: I got it working in the end, and it did seem to be an absence of data causing the prob which makes sense. no data, no rows. :) I then had to figure out how to invoke the click event of a togglebutton. I endedup Toggling the togglebutton and changed the event from click event to Checked/Unchecked. I should blog it, there was next to no documentation on it. cheers, Stephen On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I imagine you're showing the Datagrid in the Panel for the UnitTest. Keep in mind that it uses a VirtualizingStackPanel, so if there's no visible area, I would expect that no rows will be created (althoug I would at least expect to have a DataGridRowsPresenter) so I'm not sure if that could be the issue. The other problem might be timing. Try queuing the with a delay of 200ms after setting the ItemsSource. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Strange, Not getting a DataGridRowsPresenter or any children from the datagrid in the unit test. I think I need to look at what data is in it, and somehow mock it (so it's still a unit test and not an integration test). The viewmodel data object its binding to is pretty complicated. I just want enough data there for it to give me a row or two. Those examples are great, should help me out once I get something actually in the datagrid! Took a while for the penny to drop. cheers, Stephen On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: With the class that I send you you can use the Extension method GetChildren (for UIElements), use the recursive overload to find a ToggleButton, it should look something like datagrid.GetChildrenToggleButton(true); This will return an IEnumerable of all the ToggleButtons in the DataGrid. This might include the ones used for sorting in the Header. TO exclude them, hou could get to the DataGridRowsPresenter (you should only have one) and then find all the Toggles there. dataGrid.GetChildDataGridRowsPresenter(true).GetChildrenToggleButton(); I'm not sure if I wrote a generic GetChild, but you could use dataGrid.GetChildrenDataGridRowsPresenter(true).First().GetChildrenToggleButton(); If you don't use this helpers (or somethign similar), finding things in the tree is a mess and error prone with controls like the Datagrid that heavily use templates. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Button in a datagrid cell
I imagine you're showing the Datagrid in the Panel for the UnitTest. Keep in mind that it uses a VirtualizingStackPanel, so if there's no visible area, I would expect that no rows will be created (althoug I would at least expect to have a DataGridRowsPresenter) so I'm not sure if that could be the issue. The other problem might be timing. Try queuing the with a delay of 200ms after setting the ItemsSource. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Strange, Not getting a DataGridRowsPresenter or any children from the datagrid in the unit test. I think I need to look at what data is in it, and somehow mock it (so it's still a unit test and not an integration test). The viewmodel data object its binding to is pretty complicated. I just want enough data there for it to give me a row or two. Those examples are great, should help me out once I get something actually in the datagrid! Took a while for the penny to drop. cheers, Stephen On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: With the class that I send you you can use the Extension method GetChildren (for UIElements), use the recursive overload to find a ToggleButton, it should look something like datagrid.GetChildrenToggleButton(true); This will return an IEnumerable of all the ToggleButtons in the DataGrid. This might include the ones used for sorting in the Header. TO exclude them, hou could get to the DataGridRowsPresenter (you should only have one) and then find all the Toggles there. dataGrid.GetChildDataGridRowsPresenter(true).GetChildrenToggleButton(); I'm not sure if I wrote a generic GetChild, but you could use dataGrid.GetChildrenDataGridRowsPresenter(true).First().GetChildrenToggleButton(); If you don't use this helpers (or somethign similar), finding things in the tree is a mess and error prone with controls like the Datagrid that heavily use templates. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Button in a datagrid cell
Something useful is to do Linq Queries.
from b in element.GetChildrenButton
where b.Name == 'someName' b.Tag = myExpectedValue
select b
You could even restrict it a bit, to discard other buttons in other places
(like toggle buttons in the header).
from r in dg.GetChildrenDataGridRow()
from c in r.GetChildrenDataGridCell()
from b in c.GetChildrenButton()
select b
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote:
Check in SilverlightSpy. Use Cotrol+Shift+Mouse Over to find it and look at
the Visualtree, then use one of the GetChildren overloads in this class to
find it
public
static class VisualTreeExtensions
{
public static IEnumerableDependencyObject GetChildren(this
DependencyObject depObject)
{
int count = depObject.GetChildrenCount();
for (int i = 0; i count; i++)
{
yield return VisualTreeHelper.GetChild(depObject, i);
}
}
public static DependencyObject GetChild(this DependencyObject depObject,
int childIndex)
{
return VisualTreeHelper.GetChild(depObject, childIndex);
}
public static DependencyObject GetChild(this DependencyObject depObject,
string name)
{
return depObject.GetChild(name, false);
}
public static DependencyObject GetChild(this DependencyObject depObject,
string name, bool recursive)
{
foreach (var child in depObject.GetChildren())
{
var element = child as FrameworkElement;
if (element != null)
{
if (element.Name == name) // If its a FrameworkElement check Name
return element;
var innerElement = element.FindName(name) as DependencyObject; // Try to
get it using FindByName might be more efficient
if (innerElement != null)
return innerElement;
}
if (recursive) // If it's recursive search through its children
{
var innerChild = child.GetChild(name, recursive);
if (innerChild != null)
return innerChild;
}
}
return null;
}
public static IEnumerableTypeToLookFor GetChildrenTypeToLookFor(this
DependencyObject depObject, bool recursive)
where TypeToLookFor : class
{
ListTypeToLookFor types = new ListTypeToLookFor();
foreach (var child in depObject.GetChildren())
{
var found = child as TypeToLookFor;
if (found != null)
types.Add(found);
else if (recursive) // If it's recursive search through its children only
if it wasnt the type we were looking for
types.AddRange(child.GetChildrenTypeToLookFor(recursive));
}
return types;
}
public static int GetChildrenCount(this DependencyObject depObject)
{
return VisualTreeHelper.GetChildrenCount(depObject);
}
public static DependencyObject GetParent(this DependencyObject depObject)
{
return VisualTreeHelper.GetParent(depObject);
}
public static T GetParentT(this DependencyObject depObject)
where T: DependencyObject
{
var parent = depObject.GetParent();
if(parent ==null || parent is T)
return parent as T;
return parent.GetParentT();
}
}
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Re: Button in a datagrid cell
With the class that I send you you can use the Extension method GetChildren (for UIElements), use the recursive overload to find a ToggleButton, it should look something like datagrid.GetChildrenToggleButton(true); This will return an IEnumerable of all the ToggleButtons in the DataGrid. This might include the ones used for sorting in the Header. TO exclude them, hou could get to the DataGridRowsPresenter (you should only have one) and then find all the Toggles there. dataGrid.GetChildDataGridRowsPresenter(true).GetChildrenToggleButton(); I'm not sure if I wrote a generic GetChild, but you could use dataGrid.GetChildrenDataGridRowsPresenter(true).First().GetChildrenToggleButton(); If you don't use this helpers (or somethign similar), finding things in the tree is a mess and error prone with controls like the Datagrid that heavily use templates. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Silverlight ComboBox ItemsSource won't OneWay bind
I think u r right that might be the issue, try dispatching the notifications (and the coll notification should be enough) On Thursday, March 4, 2010, Tony Wright ton...@tpg.com.au wrote: Actually it is an ObservableCollection of ListValue objects. ListValue probably confused you, but it is in fact our own class, not some sort of List of items. Just a theory I have; perhaps I am calling PropertyChanged from the wrong thread? I would have thought that the PropertyChanged event would still have been available in the worker thread (it is an asynchronous call) and would have raised an exception in that case. Not sure... From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Madero Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2010 7:41 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight ComboBox ItemsSource won't OneWay bind Short version, try using an ObservableCollection or creating a new enumerable instead of adding items to the same list. Hope this helps, I'm not sure if this is the issue since you mentioned that the event is null, which I didn't expect, so it might be something else. Long version Keep in mind that the databinding framework won't refresh the target if the item is the same, which is what happens in your case. This is my understanting of the DBFx. The DataBinding Fx gets the binding from the controls on load. The DBFx checks if the source (or any class on the PropertyPath), in this case your ListProvider implements INotifyPropertyChange and if it does it subscribes to it. The DBFx asks the source for a value and stores it (not exactly, but let's keep it simple) Thd DBFx sets the value of the appropriate property in the target (the control) The control updates its value Next time, something happen and the source (ListProvider) raises a property change notification. The DBFx gets the value of the property that changed and compares it witht he current value. If it's the same it doesn't set it (to avoid unnecessary changes in the UI). I think this is the main problem in your case, since you are returning the same instance. If the values are different, then it procceeds to set the value of the appropriate property in the target (the control) The control update its value If you use an observable collection all the ItemsControl, the DataGrid et al will subscribe to the CollectionChanged event if the value for the ItemsSource implements ICollectionChanged. This isn't part of the DataBinding Framework and it's handled on each individual control (or a base class in some cases). Other things to try Set a breakpoint in the getter to see if it's called and look at the stack to see if the Databinding Fx is calling it Check the output window for BindingExpressionExceptions, you might have a type. Set the ThrowOnException property of the binding object to true to see if there's a problem getting the value (not sure about the name, but you'll find it). The DBFx will swallow all exceptions by default and in some instances it won't refresh faulted bindings (e.g. getting a value of a Property in the path failed, so it never subscribed to the IPropertyChanged of that object). -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Generating Office/PDF documents
If it's something simple Html could be enough. You could generate Html from Silverlight and then save it as a file with a docx or xlsx extension. If you could use a template, it might be simple to open an existing Office File, set the values in the placeholders and save it back. You could generate it from scratch, but it would require a good knowledge of the format, which I don't think it's worth expending time on. This post might give you some ideas of what you could do with SharpLib and messing with the xml http://www.dotnetsolutions.co.uk/blog/archive/2009/07/21/writing-ms-office-documents-from-silverlight-3/ About your first option, it's certainly possible to open a new window. System.Windows.Browser.HtmlPage.Window.Navigate(myUrl,_blank); That will do a get on a new window. This needs to be invoked in response to a user action (e.g. a click). If you need to do a post instead of get, it's possible using the HtmlBridge, let me know and I can send you a sample. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney March Meeting
SDDN Sydney March Meetinghttp://sydney.sddn.org.au/2010/02/23/sddn-sydney-march-meeting/ *When*: March 2nd, 2010, 6:00 pm* Where*: Suite 1 Ground Floor. 439-441 Kent Street. *Cost: *Free, but please RSVP on our Facebook grouphttp://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=161975808061ref=mf#/group.php?gid=70337428577. *What: *Networking, two talks, some gifts, pizza and beers (BYO). This meeting we’re changing to a different venue. Cinergyhttp://cynergysystems.com/will be hosting it, hopefully we will have less interruptions this way and a bit more space for more people. The best thing, it’s BYO and Readifyhttp://readify.net/will sponsor some pizza to keep those tummies full. We will have one talk and open topics for lightning talks. Readify will be offering a 10% discount for the Professional Silverlight 3 Workshophttp://readify.net/training-and-events/professional-series/professional-silverlight-workshop/in Sydney on March 10th to March 12th to all of the attendees. *WCF RIA Services in real world LOB application* Sergey Klementiev How to develop large scale LOB application with latest bits of WCF RIA Services. Problems, solutions, tips and tricks. Sergey is a Senior Developer at Readify. He has been working for over one year on the mid tier of Silverlight Applications so he knows it all when it comes to the best way of saving and retrieving data efficiently. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: RIA Domain Services and required dependencies
You need a custom validator. http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/bursteg/archive/2009/04/14/net-ria-services-custom-validation.aspx -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Accessing page resources from user controls
I don't know how could you access is through binding, but not code behind. If it's null, that means your binindgs won't work either. I'd suggest to only have one ViewModel per View, that's exactly what the ViewModel is, the Model specific to this View. I would try to avoid accessing other ViewModels from our View. Also keep in mind that if you add the ViewModels in App.Resources and they have a transient lifetime, you would have to explicitly removed them to avoid memory leaks. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Xaml dependency
Stephen, Which project are you working on? I don't see blondes and brunettes unless, I only see textboxes and other controls. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: As Carl has already said, , and as you have discovered, dragging things around in the designer doesn't always put the object where you actually want it in the visual tree. Dragging objects around will move the position of the object by changing the top and left properties (if in a canvas) or by changing margins (if in a grid). Its possible, but difficult to get the object into the correct container. I think there are some keys such as holding Alt while dragging to move the dragged object into a container. Its way easier to drag the object within the objects pane (Objects and Timeline pane), and modifying properties in properties pane. My process of adding a new object, I select the target container in the object pane then double click the object in the toolbox that I want to add. This will add the object as the last object within the selected container. then drag it (can drag it anywhere) up or down the visual tree. I don't think you are doing anything wrong, do what is fastest. I sometimes put Blend in split view and copy and paste, or modify stuff in the text view. Somethings are quicker if you look at the XAML. Grids columns and rows for example is buried away three or so clicks away. As you use Blend more you will become more familiar with it and learn what works best. After a while you don't see the XAML, you see blondes, brunettes... ;) cheers, Stephen On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Vishwanath Humpy vhu...@rediffmail.comwrote: Who can help me? Every time I use expression blend I find myself editing the xaml by hand to quickly do what I want. I have just started sketchflow prototypes. I needed to add a tabcontrol / tabitem / listview / buttons. I try hard using the designer but nothing ends up where it should be and things end up in wrong container and I fix it by editing the xaml. This is ok because I like xaml. But I should be able to use the designer I think. Is there any good training resource for self teaching? Or if you are good at xaml is it best to just keep doing it they way I have been? http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle? ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Simple Silverlight File Upload with Clientside Resizing and Atomic Upload (via a single zip file)
Thanks I'll take a look on the weekend. Did you do the SharpZipLib port? On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Martin Murphy martin.mur...@whiteboard-it.com wrote: Hey Miguel. The compression is done using a port of SharpZipLib which has been refactored to work as a silverlight assembly. The unit test in the project will show you how it's done. There is nothing preventing it from being used with other files types however my primary goal was for image up load which does the resize on the fly. That could be optional though. It's not really a tool just yet. The Zipping part is done though have a look at the Unit Test in the project for an example. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: Martin, That's a great tool. I was looking for something like this a while ago. I'll keep an eye on it. How do you do the compression on the client? Is it something generic that could be done for any file type? For example if I need to upload multiple word documents and PDFs? On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Martin Murphy martin.mur...@whiteboard-it.com wrote: I started a project. http://github.com/soitgoes/Silverlight-Multiple-Jpeg-Uploader I've used the other Silverlight uploader but one problem I aim to solve with this is if the resize is done on the client side then it's really important to get the thumbnail as well as the main image up to the server. So in order to make it atomic I'm zipping them into a single file before the upload. This also should make for a much better experience on the progress bar since it's a single file with a known size. I have the unit test done for resizing and zipping done. If anyone is interested in assisting on this project or has any other ideas please let me know. Primarily I could use some assistance with the XAML design Thanks again. -- Martin Murphy Whiteboard-it (205) 910-0720 ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Martin Murphy Whiteboard-it (205) 910-0720 ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Re: Our new silverlight site
I just noticed that you integrated 3 videos with the deep zoom. It looks cool. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Wow that's nice :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, rjemp...@gmail.com wrote: The company history page is another interesting use of deep zoom : http://www.michaelhill.com.au/#CompanyHistory Click the pause button to skip the video On 01/12/2009 10:45am, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by Application lifetime objects / client side services? It's nice the way you use deepzoom. Altough I was thinking I could zoom in out of the products and then I noticed that it was mainly to preload. That's nice. It would be good to know a bit more on some topics, for example security, how you used deep zoom, SEO and analytics. I agree with most of the comments around navigation, slot transitions and movies. It's some valuable feedback. Miguel. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Tatham Oddie tat...@oddie.com.au wrote: Sounds like some really cool technical work you’ve done! From an interaction perspective, Nick’s response correlates with Twitter as well: Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: tixi.com.au – Ticketing without the dramas From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Ross Since as you said this was a bit of a “cheap marketing email” I’m going to retaliate by providing what I hope will be constructive criticism: - I hate menus that disappear! The way the menus disappear completely makes the site hard to use. I flipped windows whilst the site was loading (sorry short attention span) and when I came back the menus had already gone – took me a while to find them. - The site’s infuriatingly slow – all the ui transitions are too slow for my liking. - There are some positioning issues whereby the close icon is half cut off by the edge of the screen - When you go into looking at one of the products ( http://www.michaelhill.com/#ProductList?ProductMenuItemId=8ProductMenuSubItemId=ParentScreenId=3) it’s then not clear where to go from there. General feedback – visually it’s quite pleasing. Navigation leaves quite a bit to be desired. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 9:51 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Our new silverlight site Hi all, as you guys aren’t exactly our target market, this can’t be considered a cheap marketing email to promote our new website, but more a demonstration of how silverlight can be utilized to create a global retail branding site. On Monday, we released our new website which is written completely in silverlight. If you get a chance to look at the site (www.michaelhill.com) it has a number of interesting technical features that I would like to point out to you all. 1. Heavy integration of smooth streaming video. 2. Deep zoom for the product carousel. Significant bandwidth savings are made by the in-built lazy loading of deep zoom product images, plus the natural friction effect. 3. Integrated video inside a deep zoom image (company history section). 4. Search engine optimisation. 5. Deep linking : a. From search engine optimisation links b. Send to friend links c. Browser integration with forward/back buttons d. Sets the browser/tab title e. Appropriate link / title for adding to browser favourites. 6. Client side state. This reduces load on server such that when a user visits a page once, then navigates away / back, the application doesn’t have to fetch data from the server. This is difficult to do in a traditional web application. 7
Re: Our new silverlight site
We were talking about this yesterday at the SDDN meeting. Netflix did a nice work on providing this seamless experience. They customized the SL installation experience so the user doesn't have to know that they're installing SL, they're just 'starting' their media player. If the end user doesn't know the name of the underlying technology that means you did a good work on rebranding it. We have the same scenario with many desktop apps. With some apps it's evident (for us geeks) that it's .NET or Java Swing (guiiu), but the mom and dad type of user can't care less if it's Delphi as long as it looks good and works. AdobeAir apps usually do a poor job in this area. I'm constantly distracted about it. Why do I have to update Adobe Air when I'm trying to use [Insert here your favoirte Twitter Client]? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Darren Neimke darren.nei...@live.comwrote: And why would/should they want to know. I just want my music! For example, I could care less what technology this site uses: http://listen.grooveshark.com/ It could just as easily be built using any one of several technologies. It's the user experience (how they've implemented it) that is impressive. Kind Regards, Darren Neimke darren.nei...@live.com -- From: jordan.kni...@readify.net To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:23:19 +1100 Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site I find mum and dad users don't even know what tech they are using. Do you have flash installed?. What?. Can you play youtube videos? *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane Morris *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 8:48 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* RE: Our new silverlight site I don’t find that sad. Average users should not have to think about whether something is Flash or Silverlight. We think the technology is cool, users should just think the site is cool. Hopefully users today don’t say ‘nice PHP web site’? J Shane *Shane Morris* | User Experience Evangelist | Microsoft Australia | shan...@microsoft.com | blogs.msdn.com/shanemo *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:51 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Re: Our new silverlight site One thing I find sad about all this stuff is, the average user is going to say Nice Flash website. :( On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I just noticed that you integrated 3 videos with the deep zoom. It looks cool. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Wow that's nice :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, rjemp...@gmail.com wrote: The company history page is another interesting use of deep zoom : http://www.michaelhill.com.au/#CompanyHistory Click the pause button to skip the video On 01/12/2009 10:45am, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by Application lifetime objects / client side services? It's nice the way you use deepzoom. Altough I was thinking I could zoom in out of the products and then I noticed that it was mainly to preload. That's nice. It would be good to know a bit more on some topics, for example security, how you used deep zoom, SEO and analytics. I agree with most of the comments around navigation, slot transitions and movies. It's some valuable feedback. Miguel. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Tatham Oddie tat...@oddie.com.au wrote: Sounds like some really cool technical work you’ve done! From an interaction perspective, Nick’s response correlates with Twitter as well: Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: tixi.com.au – Ticketing without the dramas From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Ross Since as you said this was a bit of a “cheap marketing email” I’m going to retaliate by providing what I hope will be constructive criticism: - I hate menus that disappear! The way the menus disappear completely makes the site hard to use. I flipped windows whilst the site was loading (sorry short attention span) and when I came back the menus had already gone – took me a while to find them. - The site’s infuriatingly slow – all the ui transitions are too slow for my liking
Re: Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors?
Jon, For what I know by default it will use the browser's network stack unless you go out of browser or explicitly change to use the other one. However, what you're experiencing looks like symptoms of using the new stack. Check this post: http://developers.de/blogs/damir_dobric/archive/2009/08/22/soap-faults-and-new-network-stack-in-silverlight-3.aspx To enable it use this line of code: bool registerResult = WebRequest.RegisterPrefix(http://;, WebRequestCreator.ClientHttp); He explains the difference and the drawback, look at the last paragraph. Silverlight 3 provides the “client HTTP stack” which, unlike the “browser HTTP stack”, allows you to process SOAP-compliant fault messages. However, a potential problem of switching to the alternative HTTP stack is that information stored by the browser (such as authentication cookies) will no longer be available to Silverlight, and thus certain scenarios involving secure services might stop working, or require additional code to work. For more information, see HttpCookieContainerBindingElementhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.servicemodel.channels.httpcookiecontainerbindingelement%28VS.95%29.aspx. *I figured out that windows authentication which has been used in my services does not work anymore by using of new network stack. By default service proxies at the client do not send required authentication headers.* On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.auwrote: Has anyone had this problem before? I have a Silverlight 2 application running fine, fully upgraded to Silverlight 3 and now from behind a proxy server all my WCF requests are getting 407 errors, the old Silverlight 2 site still work fine. The client is pretty sure their proxy is using AD to authenticate access to the internet and my application is using forms authentication to allow access to the asp.net page hosting the XAP and the service has this attribute: [AspNetCompatibilityRequirements(RequirementsMode = AspNetCompatibilityRequirementsMode.Allowed)] My guess is it’s something with the new network stack in Silverlight3 and authentication but I’m not finding much info and can’t replicate the environment from here. Hoping someone here has seen this before. John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney December Meeting
Guys, Again, just a quick reminder. We're meeting the 1st of December at the Crown Hotelhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=162+Elizabeth+Street,+Sydney,+Australiaie=UTF8hq=hnear=162+Elizabeth+St,+Sydney+NSW+2000,+Australiaz=16iwloc=A. Please RSVP herehttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feedstory_fbid=180881524442id=529202837#/event.php?eid=183387622508ref=mf. You can see more information at sydney.sddn.org.au. This month we've a special guest, Clinton Ennis, a C# guy trapped on the body of a Flex developer. Clinton will tell us how they work on the Adobe world. Also Chris Anderson will give us all the details about Silverlight 4. Hope to see you there. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Silverlight 4.0 beta
Either MS needs to slow down (which they might after releasing 4.0 (mere speculation)) or book publishers need to shorten their cycles. Those 3-4 months from submissions is just too much. Add that to all of the work required from the author and is really hard to keep up the pace :( The good part is that we're getting a lot of good and valuable information from Blogs and other sites. However I still think technical books are a great resource, specially for people getting to a technology for the first time. Usually on blogs you don't get from A to Z. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Chris Anderson christheco...@gmail.comwrote: As a book author for Silverlight, believe me it's hard! Unfortunately I don't have inside information either - so I'm left guessing as much as everyone else with when and what is coming. Originally my book (Professional Business Applications in Silverlight for Apress) was due in December (for Silverlight 3), then it needed to be done by September to be viable. It takes several months (about 3-4) from submission to be on shelves, making it nearly impossible with these rapid release cycles. As a developer I love the constant feature additions and rapid growth of Silverlight, but as an author it's nigh on impossible. PS. I just looked at the top book from the picture you provided, and the top one is mine. But it's not coming in that form (surprised it's still there) - there will be a Silverlight 4 version though (if I can write it in time before Silverlight 5 is announced!). Unfortunately about 15,000 words (plus lots of code) of what I had written has now become redundant with the Silverlight 4 features announced. I have to admit that really stings - all that work to be scrapped. Chris Anderson 2009/11/23 Craig Dunn craig.d...@conceptdevelopment.net I can't help but feel overwealmed with their release cycles. :) Imagine if you were a book author! SL4 could be out before these SL3 books reach the shelves... http://twitpic.com/q21be cd On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Is anyone playing with the Silverlight 4.0 beta? How come everyone here is so quiet about it? I'm on semi holidays in Canberra and missed the announcement. Thought I would have seen some discussion on it here tho. Shame on you. :p In particular, this new feature has caught my eye... The .NET Common Runtime (CLR) now enables the same compiled code to be run on the desktop and Silverlight without change. If I read that correctly then I should be able to do normal unit testing (ie using normal test runners such as Resharper, nUnit, TestDriven.net etc). Can anyone confirm that? Some pretty cool new features. I can't help but feel overwealmed with their release cycles. :) cheers, Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Silverlight for Embedded
On our previous meetings in Sydney, we have been talking about this. I found more information here. http://geekswithblogs.net/WindowsEmbeddedCookbook/archive/2009/10/01/silverlight-for-embedded-tutorial.aspx The main drawback is that is C++. C# or VB.NET aren't supported. This is enough to keep me away from it ATM :( -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
SDDN Sydney October's Meeting
This month we’ll have three talks about tools. - XAML Power Toys – Chris Anderson http://chrisa.wordpress.com/ - Html to XAML Converter – Jason Schluter http://www.blender3dlive.com/ - Telerik Controls – Miguel Madero http://www.miguelmadero.com/ As usual we will meet the first Tuesday of the month (October 6th) at the Crown Hotel (162 Elizabeth St). We’ll get there at 6:00 pm to start some open discussions and get a meal, to go on with the talks from 6:30 to 8:30 and then continue with the Networking part of the event. Please confirm your assistance through the mail list ( ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com) or the facebook grouphttp://www.facebook.com/editevent.php?guestsnewm=2eid=139696396129#/event.php?eid=139696396129index=1 . -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Mocking frameworks...
Hi Stephen, I've been using MoQ for the Desktop runtime. For the SL runtime I only did manual mocking/stubbing/faking/whatever, since until recently there were not options. I really like MoQ and now that it works for SL I'd consider using it, however now I'm getting my ViewModels, Converters, etc to compile for the Desktop Runtime so I can test them in the build server using MSTest or XUnit instead of the Silverlight Test Runner and when it comes to mocking frameworks, I can use anything avaialble for the desktop (but I've only used MoQ). I had a similar issue when I was working with the .NET Compact Framework, there was no Test Runner, so we needed to make our model and controllers compile for the desktop and run them there. Then we got a test runner from patterns and practices, but we never got to integrate it with the build server, when VS08 came out, we had a new test runner integrated with the IDE, but it was just too slow (as well as the one from PP) that we just got back to running the tests in the Desktop Runtime. There's somethign exciting about seeing your unit tests run in the real device (or in the Browser in the case of SL), but after you get over that excitment, you just realzie isn't practical (I'm talking mainly for the CF and SL test runnner from MS, I'm not sure if the other ones are as good as the desktop ones) There're some subtle differences that you can encounter when testing in different runtimes/oss/environments, so in the CF we tried to keep both test projects in sync so when we didn't have time we ran the tests for the desktop runtime and eventually we run the same tests in the CF. However after some time we found that this wasn't adding any value for us (apart from some umanaged code tests that we couldn't mock) and we decided to have CF tests only for thigns with platform dependencies. Something similar applies for Silverlight, altough I've found that there're way less dependencies to the SL Runtime (or are easier to abstract) than what we had with the CF. Do you find scenarios where you really need to run your code in the SL Runtime? Serialization is one of the few ones that I've found On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Hey all, I've used a little bit of TypeMock (I have a license) but due to the cost of the build server license it's put off projects I'm on from using it. I was just wondering what the most popular mocking frameworks out there are. I've used a little bit of Rhinomocks for Silverlight, and will be looking at Rhinomocks for .net. Not looked at Nmock yet, was wondering what everyone else are using and rave about. thx Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Ali is going to give a talk on the Rx framework at the next SDDN Event in Sydney :) On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.netwrote: I had a quick look at this the other day and when I compiled up the reactive dll, the classes were different that in the example: ObservableExtensions DoAsync Didn't exist? I didn't really examine where I was going wrong in any great depth, so If you have any success I'd be interested to hear about it :) *Jordan Knight* Readify | Senior Consultant Lead Trainer - Rich Interactive Media Suite 408 LifeLabs Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: jordan.kni...@readify.net | W: http://www.readify.net | B: http://blog.webjak.net *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jake Ginnivan *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 6:32 PM *To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3) http://themechanicalbride.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-rx-linq-to-events.html Have a look at this, the Silverlight team use it in their unit testing. I still have not used it yet, but really keen to dive in and use this stuff. *Jake Ginnivan* IT Coordinator ioGlobal Pty Ltd. ISO 9001 Quality Certified *Resource **Analytics** Data Systems **Automation*** T: +61 8 6555 6510 F: +61 8 6311 3256 M: +61 403 846 400 E: *jake.ginni...@ioglobal.net*** www.ioglobal.net *From:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Asheesh Soni *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 3:49 PM *To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3) Any one knows a better / cleaner way to do this than: http://silverlight.net/forums/t/12437.aspx http://silverlight.net/forums/t/72631.aspx I have already dumped daisy-chaining of calls in favor of multiple async calls with a boolean flag for each. After calling all the async operations, I am using a DispatcherTimer ticker event to poll if all the flags have been set. Works like a charm, and a huge improvement in performance and readability over the chaining. But still not the perfect solution. I couldn't get this one to work: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/811855/threading-multiple-async-calls-silverlight The thread sleeps for ever on the 1st .waitone call. Any ideas? -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Attached is a brief example on how to do this using the WaitHandle in the
IAsyncResult returned by each async method.
The code is simple. In Silverlight I just do 10 service call that will add
an item to a ListBox. I'll wait until all the service calls end to add
another message to the list (this has to run in a different thread to avoid
blocking the UI). Also note that adding items to the list have to be done
through the Dispatcher sicne they will modify the UI. There're a bunch of
lamdas, but it's easy to follow.
public MainPage()
{
InitializeComponent();
var results = new ObservableCollectionstring();
var asyncResults = new ListIAsyncResult();
resultsList.ItemsSource = results;
var service = new Service1Client() as Service1;
1.To(10).Do(i=
asyncResults.Add(service.BeginDoWork(ar =
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() =
results.Add(String.Format(Call {0} finished: {1}, i,
service.EndDoWork(ar,
null))
);
new Thread(()=
{
asyncResults.ForEach(a = a.AsyncWaitHandle.WaitOne());
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() = results.Add(Everything
finished));
}).Start();
}
Just to help with the testing, this is the service
public class Service1
{
private const int maxMilliSecs = 500;
private const int minMillisSecs = 100;
[OperationContract]
public int DoWork()
{
int millisSecsToWait = new Random().Next(maxMilliSecs -
minMillisSecs) + minMillisSecs;
Thread.Sleep(millisSecsToWait);
return millisSecsToWait;
}
}
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote:
Ali is going to give a talk on the Rx framework at the next SDDN Event in
Sydney :)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jordan Knight
jordan.kni...@readify.netwrote:
I had a quick look at this the other day and when I compiled up the
reactive dll, the classes were different that in the example:
ObservableExtensions
DoAsync
Didn't exist?
I didn't really examine where I was going wrong in any great depth, so If
you have any success I'd be interested to hear about it :)
*Jordan Knight*
Readify | Senior Consultant
Lead Trainer - Rich Interactive Media
Suite 408 LifeLabs Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008
| Australia
M: +61 403 532 404 | E: jordan.kni...@readify.net | W:
http://www.readify.net | B: http://blog.webjak.net
*From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jake Ginnivan
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 6:32 PM
*To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* RE: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
http://themechanicalbride.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-rx-linq-to-events.html
Have a look at this, the Silverlight team use it in their unit testing. I
still have not used it yet, but really keen to dive in and use this stuff.
*Jake Ginnivan*
IT Coordinator
ioGlobal Pty Ltd.
ISO 9001 Quality Certified
*Resource **Analytics** Data Systems **Automation***
T: +61 8 6555 6510
F: +61 8 6311 3256
M: +61 403 846 400
E: *jake.ginni...@ioglobal.net***
www.ioglobal.net
*From:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Asheesh Soni
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 3:49 PM
*To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Any one knows a better / cleaner way to do this than:
http://silverlight.net/forums/t/12437.aspx
http://silverlight.net/forums/t/72631.aspx
I have already dumped daisy-chaining of calls in favor of multiple async
calls with a boolean flag for each.
After calling all the async operations, I am using a DispatcherTimer
ticker event to poll if all the flags have been set.
Works like a charm, and a huge improvement in performance and readability
over the chaining. But still not the perfect solution.
I couldn't get this one to work:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/811855/threading-multiple-async-calls-silverlight
The thread sleeps for ever on the 1st .waitone call.
Any ideas?
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Re: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Asheesh,
I'm comparing the different approaches, the one in StackOverFlow works well,
this is what I don't like:
* I think it's hard to work with multiple services using events instead of
callbacks (as in my example),
* They're using an AutoResetEvent, which we get for free if we use the
callbacks, so that means less things to set up.
* They're using a BackgroundWorker and a Thread
* They're using an event to notify, which is really not necessary (altough a
clear). We could directly do whatever we need after the WaitOne or after
calling Start (instead of raising the event).
* They're starting the BackgroundWorker and leave it there just waiting,
this should be done only just before calling the services.
* The event should be raised on the UI Thread
I did some changes to that sample. I can send it to you as a reference.
I don't think it would make a huge difference in performance, since any perf
hit due to thread synchronization logic would be nothing compare to multiple
service calls. However, I've not had a chance to do any perf testing.
*BTW. *I think you forgot to use the BackgroundWorker and that's why when
you tried to use this approach the application was locked on the first
WaitOne since it was done in the UI Thread (just as the even returning from
the ServiceCall).
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote:
Attached is a brief example on how to do this using the WaitHandle in the
IAsyncResult returned by each async method.
The code is simple. In Silverlight I just do 10 service call that will add
an item to a ListBox. I'll wait until all the service calls end to add
another message to the list (this has to run in a different thread to avoid
blocking the UI). Also note that adding items to the list have to be done
through the Dispatcher sicne they will modify the UI. There're a bunch of
lamdas, but it's easy to follow.
public MainPage()
{
InitializeComponent();
var results = new ObservableCollectionstring();
var asyncResults = new ListIAsyncResult();
resultsList.ItemsSource = results;
var service = new Service1Client() as Service1;
1.To(10).Do(i=
asyncResults.Add(service.BeginDoWork(ar =
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() =
results.Add(String.Format(Call {0} finished: {1}, i,
service.EndDoWork(ar,
null))
);
new Thread(()=
{
asyncResults.ForEach(a = a.AsyncWaitHandle.WaitOne());
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() = results.Add(Everything
finished));
}).Start();
}
Just to help with the testing, this is the service
public class Service1
{
private const int maxMilliSecs = 500;
private const int minMillisSecs = 100;
[OperationContract]
public int DoWork()
{
int millisSecsToWait = new Random().Next(maxMilliSecs -
minMillisSecs) + minMillisSecs;
Thread.Sleep(millisSecsToWait);
return millisSecsToWait;
}
}
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote:
Ali is going to give a talk on the Rx framework at the next SDDN Event in
Sydney :)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net
wrote:
I had a quick look at this the other day and when I compiled up the
reactive dll, the classes were different that in the example:
ObservableExtensions
DoAsync
Didn't exist?
I didn't really examine where I was going wrong in any great depth, so If
you have any success I'd be interested to hear about it :)
*Jordan Knight*
Readify | Senior Consultant
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*From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jake Ginnivan
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 6:32 PM
*To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* RE: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
http://themechanicalbride.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-rx-linq-to-events.html
Have a look at this, the Silverlight team use it in their unit testing. I
still have not used it yet, but really keen to dive in and use this stuff.
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*From:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Asheesh Soni
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 3:49 PM
*To:* OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Re: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Ross,
You're totally right, altough isn't as fun, that'll definitely perfom better
and should be the first option. I let myself go straight to VS to hack some
code and completely overlooked this.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Ross Jempson
ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au wrote:
Whilst the synchronising discussion is interesting in itself, perhaps the
original problem could be solved by batching your logically grouped
operations. Assuming you ‘own’ the services, you could create less granular
methods which return aggregated ‘datacontracts’.
A variation of this idea is implemented quite nicely in ADO.NET data
services, by supplying multiple DataServiceRequest to
DataServiceContext.BeginExecuteBatch you get better performance and don’t
have to synchronise the callbacks.
(I’m only using that as an example by the way, as you can’t call custom
service methods within a batch within that framework.)
*From:* Miguel Madero [mailto:m...@miguelmadero.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2009 11:04 PM
*To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* Re: Wait for multiple Async calls to finish (SL3)
Asheesh,
I'm comparing the different approaches, the one in StackOverFlow works
well, this is what I don't like:
* I think it's hard to work with multiple services using events instead of
callbacks (as in my example),
* They're using an AutoResetEvent, which we get for free if we use the
callbacks, so that means less things to set up.
* They're using a BackgroundWorker and a Thread
* They're using an event to notify, which is really not necessary (altough
a clear). We could directly do whatever we need after the WaitOne or after
calling Start (instead of raising the event).
* They're starting the BackgroundWorker and leave it there just waiting,
this should be done only just before calling the services.
* The event should be raised on the UI Thread
I did some changes to that sample. I can send it to you as a reference.
I don't think it would make a huge difference in performance, since any
perf hit due to thread synchronization logic would be nothing compare to
multiple service calls. However, I've not had a chance to do any perf
testing.
*BTW. *I think you forgot to use the BackgroundWorker and that's why when
you tried to use this approach the application was locked on the first
WaitOne since it was done in the UI Thread (just as the even returning from
the ServiceCall).
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com
wrote:
Attached is a brief example on how to do this using the WaitHandle in the
IAsyncResult returned by each async method.
The code is simple. In Silverlight I just do 10 service call that will add
an item to a ListBox. I'll wait until all the service calls end to add
another message to the list (this has to run in a different thread to avoid
blocking the UI). Also note that adding items to the list have to be done
through the Dispatcher sicne they will modify the UI. There're a bunch of
lamdas, but it's easy to follow.
public MainPage()
{
InitializeComponent();
var results = new ObservableCollectionstring();
var asyncResults = new ListIAsyncResult();
resultsList.ItemsSource = results;
var service = new Service1Client() as Service1;
1.To(10).Do(i=
asyncResults.Add(service.BeginDoWork(ar =
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() =
results.Add(String.Format(Call {0} finished: {1}, i,
service.EndDoWork(ar,
null))
);
new Thread(()=
{
asyncResults.ForEach(a = a.AsyncWaitHandle.WaitOne());
Dispatcher.BeginInvoke(() = results.Add(Everything
finished));
}).Start();
}
Just to help with the testing, this is the service
public class Service1
{
private const int maxMilliSecs = 500;
private const int minMillisSecs = 100;
[OperationContract]
public int DoWork()
{
int millisSecsToWait = new Random().Next(maxMilliSecs -
minMillisSecs) + minMillisSecs;
Thread.Sleep(millisSecsToWait);
return millisSecsToWait;
}
}
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com
wrote:
Ali is going to give a talk on the Rx framework at the next SDDN Event in
Sydney :)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net
wrote:
I had a quick look at this the other day and when I compiled up the
reactive dll, the classes were different that in the example:
ObservableExtensions
DoAsync
Didn't exist?
I didn't really examine where I was going wrong in any great depth, so If
you have any success I'd be interested to hear about it :)
*Jordan Knight*
Readify | Senior Consultant
Lead Trainer - Rich Interactive Media
Suite
Re: DataGrid mouseover vsm
Stephen, The DG itself doesn't have a MouseOver State. It's template it's a bit simpler. You can modify the RowHeaderStyle, RowStyle, CellStyle (and probably others) all of them have the mouse over state, it just depends on which area of the DG you want to modify. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Hey all, This is probably simple when you know how, but I'm trying to customise the mouseover storyboard of a DataGrid. I'm using Blend 2 and have also looked in Blend 3 but when you create copy for the Edit Template option the copy has no states. I've also looked in the additional templates menu. Am I looking in the wrong place or maybe not drilling deep enough into the right part of the DataGrid? Or maybe its a manual thing being a part of the toolkit. The default style must be coming from somewhere... any ideas? cheers, Stephen -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: DataGrid mouseover vsm
localprimitives:DataGridFrozenGrid.IsFrozen=True / localprimitives:DataGridCellsPresenter Grid.Column=1 Name=CellsPresenter localprimitives:DataGridFrozenGrid.IsFrozen=True / localprimitives:DataGridDetailsPresenter Grid.Row=1 Grid.Column=1 Name=DetailsPresenter / Rectangle Grid.Row=2 Grid.Column=1 Name=BottomGridLine HorizontalAlignment=Stretch Height=1 / /localprimitives:DataGridFrozenGrid /ControlTemplate /Setter.Value /Setter /Style *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 August 2009 6:14 PM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: DataGrid mouseover vsm Thanks for the reply. I had a look at those and there was no default for them. ie RowStyle is probably the one I want but it just has the create new option, no copy. Will have another look at it later tonight... cheers, Stephen On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Stephen, The DG itself doesn't have a MouseOver State. It's template it's a bit simpler. You can modify the RowHeaderStyle, RowStyle, CellStyle (and probably others) all of them have the mouse over state, it just depends on which area of the DG you want to modify. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Hey all, This is probably simple when you know how, but I'm trying to customise the mouseover storyboard of a DataGrid. I'm using Blend 2 and have also looked in Blend 3 but when you create copy for the Edit Template option the copy has no states. I've also looked in the additional templates menu. Am I looking in the wrong place or maybe not drilling deep enough into the right part of the DataGrid? Or maybe its a manual thing being a part of the toolkit. The default style must be coming from somewhere... any ideas? cheers, Stephen -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: SDDN Sydney August Meeting
Hi Greg, Thanks for letting me know. Sorry about that. We'll be updating the site soon. See you there. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Gregory Koulax g...@segator.com wrote: Hi Miguel, The registration tool is out of order? Regards, *GREGORY KOULAX* | Principal *SEGATOR Pty Limited* Unit 1, First Floor, 17-21 Bowden Street ALEXANDRIA NSW 2015 AUSTRALIA Tel: +612 9318 0122 Mob: +61433 193 861 Skype: gkoulax -- *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Miguel Madero *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 August 2009 12:08 AM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: SDDN Sydney August Meeting Just a reminder of todays meeting. Jose will be talking about Interactivity and Experience and Chris will lead a discussion on User Experience Design. You can't miss it. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: This month Jose Fajardo http://cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/josefajardofrom Cynergy Systems http://cynergysystems.com/ will talk on “Don't lose site of what's important, Interactivity and Experience” at the Crown Hotel. Here are all the details: Crown Hotel 162 Elizabeth St Sydney August 4th. 6:00 pm for drinks, 6:30 for the talk Use the registration tool on the top of the SDDN Sitehttp://www.sddn.org.au/ . In our last couple of meetings we had low assistance and we might need an extra help to promote the meetings. I know there are a lot of Silverlight Developers out there and I think they can benefit from attending the User Group. Please help us spread the word. Also if you have any suggestions for this or future events, please let us know. For details about the talk, go herehttp://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/07/silverlight-designer-and-developer.html -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
SDDN Sydney August Meeting
This month Jose Fajardo http://cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/josefajardofrom Cynergy Systems http://cynergysystems.com/ will talk on “Don't lose site of what's important, Interactivity and Experience” at the Crown Hotel. Here are all the details: Crown Hotel 162 Elizabeth St Sydney August 4th. 6:00 pm for drinks, 6:30 for the talk Use the registration tool on the top of the SDDN Sitehttp://www.sddn.org.au/ In our last couple of meetings we had low assistance and we might need an extra help to promote the meetings. I know there are a lot of Silverlight Developers out there and I think they can benefit from attending the User Group. Please help us spread the word. Also if you have any suggestions for this or future events, please let us know. For details about the talk, go herehttp://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/07/silverlight-designer-and-developer.html -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: SQL 'in' Silverlight
This is really cool. I'll check it later. A while ago I was working on something similar, but I was mainly focused on synchronizing data and saving it. I didnt have much time to work on querying capabilities. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Craig Dunn craig.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone - played around a bit with porting an old c# version of HSql (from java) to Silverlight. I'm not sure of the utility but it was an interesting exercise - still figuring out the kinks in isolatedstorage... seems to work fine 'in memory' though. post: http://conceptdev.blogspot.com/2009/07/sql-in-silverlight.html play: http://conceptdevelopment.net/Silverlight2/SharpSql02/default.html the 'default' SQL includes some basic data queries - you can Execute the entire block, or select text to execute just like MgmtStudio... (just don't habitually hit F5 like was doing during testing!). the UI is pretty basic, so you must scroll with the bars. -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: ado.net data services query filtering
If you use a sniffer like Fiddler, Firebug or WebDevelopment Helper you
could see all the network traffic.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Ross Jempson
ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au wrote:
That seems like a reasonable suggestion.
I had considered writing it as linq, but assumed it would have the same
problem. I didn’t realise you could check the rest URL, thanks.
*From:* Asheesh Soni [mailto:asheeshs...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, 10 July 2009 1:47 PM
*To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* Re: ado.net data services query filtering
Why don't you simply write a linq query and let it do the translation for
you?
And if you are curious, you can set a break point and see what REST url it
is using to get the results.
Or have I missed something really obvious and made a fool of myself?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Ross Jempson
ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au wrote:
Hi there,
This might be slightly off topic, but I’ll try my luck.
I am trying to figure out whether I can filter on child collections of an
ado.net data services query in a Silverlight app.
For example, the following examples work nicely, and are good for
performance as I don’t need round trips to the server when populating child
entity collections:
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new Uri(
Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroundImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo
,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteMainMenuItemCountry(new
Uri(string.Format(MainMenuItemCountry?$expand=MainMenuItem/Screen$filter=CountryId
eq {0}, _loc.ApplicationSettings.CountryId),
UriKind.Relative),
MainMenuItemsDataCallback, this.DataContext);
Notice in the second query I am filtering the ‘MainMenuItemCountry’ by
CountryId. Note how this filter is against the top level entity.
I would like to do the same thing in the first query, but I want to filter
by country for the ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry entities. Eg
something like
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new
Uri(Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroundImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo$filter=
ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry/CountryId eq 61 ,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
However, this results in a bad request. The following link implies it is
not possible to filter the ‘expanded’ child collection, but I can’t be
sure. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668778.aspx
Has anyone tried this?
Cheers.
Ross
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Re: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed.
SDDN in Sydney is today. Next week on the 16th we'll have a nerd dinner (in case you're in Sydney or for anyone else that's interested). All the details are herehttp://www.nerddinner.com/726. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Nina Meiers n...@xd.com.au wrote: Yes – please count me in on Melbourne things. I love what you wrote there :-D Nina Nina Meiers *Nina Meiers (Microsoft MVP)* XD Design Pty Ltd P: 613 9551 5711 F: 613 9551 6503 S: nina.meiers E: *nina.mei...@xd.com.au* W:*http://www.xd.com.au http://mysupport.xd.com.au **Send a card a day and show you care http://www.sendoutcards.com/37568 *** web design, web hosting, manage your own websites, eCommerce, eMarketing, SEA SEO management, DotNetNuke Consultation Delivery, Training and deployment *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:28 AM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed. Ok I’ll put down 21st July. I now need to get signoff for the below dates by the Minister of Events, Planning, Vacation and Housing – The Mother of my children who will make my life hell should I miss an important date below that’s already been booked by some event she may or may not have told me – but highly likely I ignored due to Twitter/Facebook/TeamFortress occupying my attention at the time. *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Berry *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2009 6:19 PM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed. Hi Scott, Definitely come to Melbourne, our SDDN user group, could may do a special One off meet, as were quite excited to see whats coming? Say 21st July? Steve *From:* Scott Barnes [mailto:scbar...@microsoft.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:21 AM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed. Hi All, Doing the finalizations today (should have it locked by this afternoon if all goes well). · Adelaide *(PENDING) *– 18th July. oI’m trying now to dovetail the codecamp into the schedule as I agree, it would be perfect timing for me to be there). · Sydney. *(PENDING) *– 15th July. o What day next week? As maybe I can bring that forward and head into Sydney for the SDDN instead as that way I won’t impact too much of your guys after hour schedules? At the moment it’s likely I’ll just hit the Sydney SSW .NET UserGroup (via Adam Cogan) meeting on the *15th July* – so is this the same as the SDDN? · Brisbane. *(PENDING)* o I may have to push Brisbane 8th back as I’m talking to Mike and likely going to crash the local UG here this month. · Perth. *(**LOCKED**) *– 22nd July. o I’ll be doing my preso at the next perth SDDN. · Melbourne *(PENDING)* o Still wondering what to do here, any thoughts as it’s the only city where I’ve not heard boo about me being there so may scratch it? · Canberra. *(PENDING)*. *20th July*. o Looks like I’ll be doing my spiel at the SSW .NET UG – 20th July (via Adam Cogan). One thought occurred to me in organizing this, is I’d love to meet up with the UG heads etc and see if we can put together a shared talent /calendar of some sort as maybe I’m just an ignorant ass (which is very likely) but it would be good to see a centralized approach to the ethos here… ie one website to rule them all or something like that? Love to mediate that between the community and Microsoft Australia more (may even fund it). I’m absolutely excited to do this and am very grateful for folks helping me organize the above. Now to make sure my presentation inspires you all some more… damn that’s a lot of pressure now J *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Molloy *Sent:* Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:20 AM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed. Scott, Have you finalised the locations yet? How do we book tickets ? Grant On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Scott Barnes scbar...@microsoft.com wrote: Hey All, I’m coming home for a month and was thinking of doing an Aussie Tour of Silverlight/Expression 3 and answer any questions around our products futures etc. The below are the dates I’m thinking and was keen to get folks in each city to provide feedback around the said dates. · 08th JulyBrisbane · 22nd July Perth · 23rd JulyMelbourne. · 27th JulySydney · 28th JulyCanberra. The material will be some
Re: Exception handling / reporting RIA
I'm using Daniel Vaughan Loggin and have been quite happy so far. We were already using Log4Net in the server, so it fitted pretty well. We needed to do some tricks to implement it since the article in CodeProject. If you are interested I can send you more information on how we did it (sorry I don't have it at hand at the moment). Implementing an offline functionality should be somewhat straight forward. For offline scenarios, I ported the Disconnected Service Agent from PP used in the Mobile Client Software Factory to allow to temporarily save service requests in queue and dispatch them when a connection is available. This pattern works pretty well for atomic services that doesn't block the functionality or when an application is completely designed to support Offline Scenarios, which isn't the case for must SL apps, specially not having an local DB. RIA Services uses a similar approach, but works on Domain/Service Context instead of at a Service Operation level. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.auwrote: Since the majority of errors we have so far are actually WCF communication errors this would make a lot of sense. Plus for power users we can always get the logs manually. Thanks. *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Gilbert Corrales *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2009 12:54 PM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: Exception handling / reporting RIA maybe a hybrid between isolated storage and remote error handling could work... in the case of error reporting the error we can log it temporary in isolated storage and later when the connection is reestablished we can log any information left might do for an interesting experiments. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Has anyone come across a good architecture for handling exceptions in Silverlight gracefully? Ideally we want the user to get something generic but for the full error to be logged, since Silverlight runs on the client I assume we would need to implement a WCF service for error reporting? And clearly we don’t want an error to happen in the error handler itself, it needs to be very robust. Any pointers? John. -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting
Everyone, Thanks to all of you who attend the first Virtual SDDN. I think we had some interesting discussions. Some of them we can definitely continue on this mail list or in the next Virtual SDDN. Unfortunately I didn't record this meeting (I'll make sure to do it next time), but I'll include a list of resources from the talk, but first of all I'd like to ask a couple of questions. 1. What do you thing about the format? a) I hate open spaces, bring me some speakers with Powerpoints. b) It's good once in a while, but we should try a different format next time (probably alternate) c) I love it. Altough presentations are good, discussions add a lot of value. d) ??? 2. How often would you like to have this type of events? a) Once a month. b) Fortnightly c) Eventually d) ??? During the talk we discussed about Patterns, we only had a chance to talk about MVVM and Tom told us he have been using Prism with MVP and Unity. These are some links Prism http://compositewpf.codeplex.com/ MVVM by Nikhil http://www.nikhilk.net/Silverlight-ViewModel-Pattern.aspx MVVM by Jonashttp://jonas.follesoe.no/YouCardRevisitedImplementingTheViewModelPattern.aspx We also talked a bit about Memory Leaks. Delay on Memory Leaks in SLhttp://blogs.msdn.com/delay/archive/2009/03/11/where-s-your-leak-at-using-windbg-sos-and-gcroot-to-diagnose-a-net-memory-leak.aspx I mentioned that we could use WinDbghttp://www.google.com.au/url?sa=tsource=webct=rescd=1url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwhdc%2Fdevtools%2Fdebugging%2Finstallx86.Mspxei=p2oRSoDwBYrKM5K92FIusg=AFQjCNHf3h9385pKvQHMJRRGwiEwm4pl1Asig2=tcJmKfnydI_ZtTeU61vDIAor SilverlightSpyhttp://silverlightspy.com/silverlightspy/download-silverlight-spy/to detect Memory Leaks. When it comes to WinDbg, Tess knows it all and she blogged about how to setup WinDbg for Silverlighthttp://blogs.msdn.com/tess/archive/2008/08/21/debugging-silverlight-applications-with-windbg-and-sos-dll.aspx Andy and Stephen told us about the cool apps that they've written in Silverlight, but we don't have a lot of resources to show atm. At the end we talked a about Behaviours in Silverlight 3. Shawn Wildermouth has a series on this topichttp://wildermuth.com/2009/05/16/Writing_Behaviors_for_Silverlight_3_-_Part_1 We added a bonus topic on User Controls and we talked about the TreeView in the Silverlight Toolkit. We also mentioned the need to navigate the VisualTree to get to different Elements when needed. In this blog posthttp://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2008/07/use-visualtreehelper-to-navigate_18.htmlI talked about how to use the VisualTreeHelper to do that and some extensions to do it easily (the code is avaailable for download). I've an updated version of this that supports more escenarios, like using expressions and LINQ to query for UIElements, contact me if you're interested. I hope everyone enjoyed and got something out of this. I'd love to have your feedback and see you again in another virtual or UG meeting. Thanks On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: This is the link for the eventhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4, please register before the meeting and be sure you have Live Meeting installed on your computer and your audio properly configured. Some people have asked me about the place and how is this a Virtual Event. We’ll be using this tool called Live Meeting that allow us to interact with audio, video and share the desktop, polls, QA, etc, but rather than trying to explain what Live Meeting is, you can just try it tonight. Just registerhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4and follow the instructions. If you have any doubts, please contact me. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: Everything has been really quite lately, so it's time to SPAM the list again, We're going to do a Virtual Meeting next monday at 9:00 pm Sydney Time, I think it ca be a great opportunity for everyone to participate. Instead of the typical presentation, we decided to have an open discussion around different topics. You can read all the details on my blog http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-virtual-silverlight-designer-and.html We will be using Live Meeting. I’ll email the link for the meeting ASAP. I hope to see you (hear you or at least read you) on monday. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m
Re: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting
Thanks for the feedback. Just summarizing. Monthly or every 6 weeks sounds good. More often if there's something to talk about. If there's a lot of interest in the list about something we could just plan an ad-hoc Virtual Meeting. I think alternating Discussion with presentation it's a good idea. Next time we can try with a presentation first and then open discussion and we'll choose through this list. I'm sorry we exceeded the expected time. Some people have told me it was too long. Next time we will make sure to keep it at 1:30. If someone wants to stay, that could be an 'unofficial' part of the meeting. We've done it that way for OzVirtual ALT.NET http://alt.net/ and I think it works well, few people usually stay, but there's still a good option. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Scott Barnes scbar...@microsoft.comwrote: Doh I thought I was tonight as for some reason in my head it was 9pm my time.. I’ll definitely sync in at the next one! J *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Miguel Madero *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2009 7:15 AM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting Everyone, Thanks to all of you who attend the first Virtual SDDN. I think we had some interesting discussions. Some of them we can definitely continue on this mail list or in the next Virtual SDDN. Unfortunately I didn't record this meeting (I'll make sure to do it next time), but I'll include a list of resources from the talk, but first of all I'd like to ask a couple of questions. 1. What do you thing about the format? a) I hate open spaces, bring me some speakers with Powerpoints. b) It's good once in a while, but we should try a different format next time (probably alternate) c) I love it. Altough presentations are good, discussions add a lot of value. d) ??? 2. How often would you like to have this type of events? a) Once a month. b) Fortnightly c) Eventually d) ??? During the talk we discussed about Patterns, we only had a chance to talk about MVVM and Tom told us he have been using Prism with MVP and Unity. These are some links Prism http://compositewpf.codeplex.com/ MVVM by Nikhil http://www.nikhilk.net/Silverlight-ViewModel-Pattern.aspx MVVM by Jonashttp://jonas.follesoe.no/YouCardRevisitedImplementingTheViewModelPattern.aspx We also talked a bit about Memory Leaks. Delay on Memory Leaks in SLhttp://blogs.msdn.com/delay/archive/2009/03/11/where-s-your-leak-at-using-windbg-sos-and-gcroot-to-diagnose-a-net-memory-leak.aspx I mentioned that we could use WinDbghttp://www.google.com.au/url?sa=tsource=webct=rescd=1url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwhdc%2Fdevtools%2Fdebugging%2Finstallx86.Mspxei=p2oRSoDwBYrKM5K92FIusg=AFQjCNHf3h9385pKvQHMJRRGwiEwm4pl1Asig2=tcJmKfnydI_ZtTeU61vDIAor SilverlightSpyhttp://silverlightspy.com/silverlightspy/download-silverlight-spy/to detect Memory Leaks. When it comes to WinDbg, Tess knows it all and she blogged about how to setup WinDbg for Silverlighthttp://blogs.msdn.com/tess/archive/2008/08/21/debugging-silverlight-applications-with-windbg-and-sos-dll.aspx Andy and Stephen told us about the cool apps that they've written in Silverlight, but we don't have a lot of resources to show atm. At the end we talked a about Behaviours in Silverlight 3. Shawn Wildermouth has a series on this topichttp://wildermuth.com/2009/05/16/Writing_Behaviors_for_Silverlight_3_-_Part_1 We added a bonus topic on User Controls and we talked about the TreeView in the Silverlight Toolkit. We also mentioned the need to navigate the VisualTree to get to different Elements when needed. In this blog posthttp://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2008/07/use-visualtreehelper-to-navigate_18.htmlI talked about how to use the VisualTreeHelper to do that and some extensions to do it easily (the code is avaailable for download). I've an updated version of this that supports more escenarios, like using expressions and LINQ to query for UIElements, contact me if you're interested. I hope everyone enjoyed and got something out of this. I'd love to have your feedback and see you again in another virtual or UG meeting. Thanks On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: This is the link for the eventhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4, please register before the meeting and be sure you have Live Meeting installed on your computer and your audio properly configured. Some people have asked me about the place and how is this a Virtual Event. We’ll be using this tool called Live Meeting that allow us to interact with audio, video and share the desktop, polls, QA, etc, but rather than trying to explain what Live Meeting is, you can just try it tonight. Just registerhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName
Re: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting
This is the link for the eventhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4, please register before the meeting and be sure you have Live Meeting installed on your computer and your audio properly configured. Some people have asked me about the place and how is this a Virtual Event. We’ll be using this tool called Live Meeting that allow us to interact with audio, video and share the desktop, polls, QA, etc, but rather than trying to explain what Live Meeting is, you can just try it tonight. Just registerhttps://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4and follow the instructions. If you have any doubts, please contact me. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Everything has been really quite lately, so it's time to SPAM the list again, We're going to do a Virtual Meeting next monday at 9:00 pm Sydney Time, I think it ca be a great opportunity for everyone to participate. Instead of the typical presentation, we decided to have an open discussion around different topics. You can read all the details on my blog http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-virtual-silverlight-designer-and.html We will be using Live Meeting. I’ll email the link for the meeting ASAP. I hope to see you (hear you or at least read you) on monday. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
First Virtaul SDDN Meeting
Everything has been really quite lately, so it's time to SPAM the list again, We're going to do a Virtual Meeting next monday at 9:00 pm Sydney Time, I think it ca be a great opportunity for everyone to participate. Instead of the typical presentation, we decided to have an open discussion around different topics. You can read all the details on my blog http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-virtual-silverlight-designer-and.html We will be using Live Meeting. I’ll email the link for the meeting ASAP. I hope to see you (hear you or at least read you) on monday. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: OzSilverlightFeed
@Everyone, First of all, I'm sorry for the long response. I've been somewhat busy and didn't want to just add all the feeds without putting some thought behind. It would be easier for me to just publish that, but I don't think subscribers would appreciate that and that's the main goal. Thanks for the comments and for nominating your feeds. I'll see the details with each one individually, but this are the general points ordered by importance (I'm always open to more feedback/suggestions): 1. Posts related to Silverlight. Ideally we should aim for 100% Silverlight content. I knot that's not all you have in your mind and I'm sure the rest is also interesting, but in this case, people will be subscribing to Silverlight Content. So we need a way to filter that. What seems easier at the moment is to get the feeds for certain categories, for example in wordpress instead of subscribing to myblog.com/feed/ we would get myblog.com/category/silverlight/feed/ I don't know how to do the same with other blog engines. If you can provide me with a 100% SL Feed that would be fantastic. Otherwise don't worry, as long as it has a high percentage of SL content I think we can still include it. I might do some regular expressions in Yahoo Pipes, but I'm not sure of taking this path, what if someone mentions SDDN, Blend and Animations or other words that I don't consider part of the filter, so this is error prone. 2. To be involved somehow with the OzSilverlight Community, (e.g. not necessarily living here, like Scott and Jonas that have participated in the list and presented at different events in Australia. 3. To blog frequently. Once a month? Although this isn't as important as the focus of the posts. Thanks On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Ola Karlsson ola.e.karls...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Miguel, Great initiative :) In regards to the criterias etc. I guess it should be someone, who either live/work in Australia or have very close connections to Australia, yes Scott, being Australian but living abroad I reckon would qualify you ;) Secondly as it's a Silverlight feed, the majority of the content on the blog should obviously be Silverlight related. People could email you with suggestions regarding new additions and possibly removing old ones (reason for removing could be for example if the person has shifted focus away from Silverlight). So basically, keep up what you're already doing :) I'd of course also would like to add my blog http://feeds2.feedburner.com/WebDevelopmentAdventures as a suggestion for the feed :) the idea is to write about wed development in general but so far it's pretty much just been Silverlight (and the odd personal rant). Well that's my two cents. Cheers, Ola On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.comwrote: Everyone, I've put together a feed to aggregate blogs of people from Australian writing about Silverlight. The idea is to have a complimentary tool for the Australian Silverlight community to know each other, learn a bit about what everybody is doing apart from using the mailing list or attending SDDN events. This is the feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/OzsilverlightFeedhttps://mail.readify.net/redir.aspx?C=6569594baed0440c8d0f50989b1917ddURL=http%3a%2f%2ffeeds2.feedburner.com%2fOzsilverlightFeed At the moment I have few blogs in the feed. I'd like the community to help me maintain this list suggesting new blogs to add. These are the current blogs: http://blog.webjak.net/feed/ http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default http://feeds2.feedburner.com/SilverzineRss http://silverzine.com/resources/feed/ http://feeds2.feedburner.com/ChrisA http://feeds2.feedburner.com/shanemo http://delicategeniusblog.com/?feed=rss2 http://feeds.feedburner.com/follesoe?format=xml http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/rss/josefajardo In order to make the feed relevant and focused for the subscribers, I'd like to keep it limited to Silverligh bloggers from Australia. I'd like to know your feedback on this feed. Which blogs would you like me to add? What should be the criteria to add/remove blogs, etc. Thanks -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Quick Reminder SDDN Meeting Tonight in Sydney
Quick reminder. Silverlight Designers and Developers Meeting Tonight at Pyrmont Bridge Hotel @ 6:00PM http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/04/first-meeting-of-silverlight-designer.html -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Accessing the bindings
We can programmatically add a binding doing something like textBox.SetBinding() is there a way to Get the Bindings? -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Accessing the bindings
Looks like it's not possible (yet). In SL3 we'll have a txt.GetBindingExpression() Thanks Jordan and Stephen :) On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: We can programmatically add a binding doing something like textBox.SetBinding() is there a way to Get the Bindings? -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
SDDN Meeting in Sydney. May 5th
Silverlight Designer and Developer Network Our next meeting is on Tuesday the 5th of May in Sydney What's on? This meeting we will see *Chris Anderson* (bloghttp://chrisa.wordpress.com/), from Peer Placements will be discussing advanced styling in Silverlight for both developers and designers. Topics will cover styling strategies, tools, advanced xaml techniques, fashions, and a discussion on designing user experiences. *Jordan Knight* (Blog http://blog.webjak.net/) from Readify will run through the exciting new features in *Silverlight 3*, and demonstrate how you might use them in a real working reference application. This in depth session will cover perspective 3D, pixel shaders, navigation features, out of browser and much more. Other concepts like Model-View-ViewModel, dependency injection, unit testing and designing template friendly (read designer friendly) applications will also be touched upon. WIN! Attendees will have the opportunity to win a copy of the full Expression 2 suite, worth $1000! When and Where? The date and time: Tuesday May 5 at 6:00 PM for a 6:30 PM start. The venue is the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel, Level 2, Pyrmont, NSW. See maphttp://www.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=96+Union+Street+Pyrmont+2009sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=32.514368,64248047ie=UTF8z=17iwloc=Afor details. Attendance is FREE, but please RSVP by entering your details in the registration in the registration tool on the site (http://www.sddn.org.au) or send an email to i...@sddn.org.au. Who will this group interest? The focus of the group is not just on developers. Traditionally developers have had great community support, whereas designers not so much… now that Silverlight 2 is out we plan to change this. Silverlight is as interesting for developers as it is for designers. Due in part to Silverlight’s excellent separation of design and development concerns we have new problems to solve around finding the best ways to work together. To this end the SDDN will facilitate an ongoing discussion and promote the development of ideas and best practices for anyone who works with Silverlight. To register interest head over to http://www.sddn.org.au. *Use the registration tool in the header of the site*. -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Perth Silverlight user group meeting (SDDN)
Sounds great. Enjoy the event. Is it going to be recorded? I'd like to learn a bit more on RIA Services. For people interested in RIA Services, I'd recommend to check the PDF. Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Toolbox Treeview control
You can also try using datbinding and then change and bind the IsSelectedProperty to a property in your datasource. Then instead of modifying the elements (which will get overwritten once the TreeView is created), you modify the objects, so once the treeview is created it will get the value for IsSelectedProperty from the object. Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Blend 3
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Re: Blend 3
Thanks for the info. I'll also send my list. The worst issue I found is that sometimes when you modify the Text in the TextBox the Source it's not updated. I've not been able to reproduce it in a blank project. I'll also try to compile a list of issues and submit them. Thanks Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
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Re: VSM in ListboxItem DataTemplate
It's somewhat problematic to navigate the VisualTree. Sometimes even looking at the XAML isn't evident which controll will be the parent as you would need not only to know your XAML, but also the ControlTemplates the define the controls that you're using. A while ago I created some extensions for the VisualStateManager that can help in this and other types of scenarios. You can see part 1http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2008/07/use-visualtreehelper-to-navigate.html and part 2http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2008/07/use-visualtreehelper-to-navigate_18.html For this escenario with the Extension method we could use the following syntax: ListBoxItem lbi = button.GetParentListBoxItem(); The code is available in my blog. I've added a couple more methods, if you find it interesting, just e-mail me and I can send you the updated version. Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Blend crash
I've found the same problem in some scenarios. Just to let you know you're
not alone, because I don't know how to fix it :(
It wasn't the only place, but I remember that if I used a converter in a
TemplateColumn in a DataGrid it failed.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Price
step...@perthprojects.comwrote:
Yeah I have tried that. Forgot to post the error (forgotten that I had done
that... until I tried it again and recognised the error)
{Cannot access a disposed object.\r\nObject name: 'NativeObject'.}
Flat out atm but will see if I can reproduce it in a standalone project
later today.
cheers,
Stephen
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net
wrote:
Hey Stephen,
What is the error?
Have you tried attaching VS debugger to Blend to get a better error.
I've not experienced this myself...
Do you have many different converts?
Perhaps you could post a replication project so I can try it on my
machine...
Cheers,
Jordan.
*From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
*Sent:* Monday, 16 February 2009 11:34 AM
*To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
*Subject:* Blend crash
Has anyone used a Converter on a binding and not have it crash when the
file is opened with Blend?
I can't have any converters on my bindings at all or Blend dies
dramatically. I've found a short thread on the Expression Blend forums with
other people with the same issue. Was wondering if its everyone or just a
small number of ppl?
Blend version is v2.1.1760.0. Silverlight v2.0.31005.0
The converters work fine when run from VS2008 or Blend, it's just crashing
Blend when opened. (I have to remove/rename them to be able to open the
file)
cheers,
Stephen
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Re: Silverlight Reporting apps
We have invoked ASP.NET pages to display Reporting Services or HTML reports, It's also really easy using the Reporting Services API, to redirect a client directly to a PDF that he can open in the explorer. It would be great to have a better ingration, but we never had time to do it. It would be possible, to directly consume the SSRS WebServices to avoid havingn to create another website to host the control. Jonas, publish an article about printint in SL 2.0 it's an interesing approach. http://jonas.follesoe.no/PrintingInSilverlight2UsingCSSAndASPNETAJAX4.aspx On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Joseph Cooney jos...@learnwpf.com wrote: Just in case you didn't know already the printing support in SL2 is pretty bad. I'm sure SL would make a great front-end for entry selection but when it comes to actual report rendering for print you'll probably need to choose something else (at least until SL3 comes out). Joseph On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Bruce Hopkins bhopk...@chattcollege.com wrote: Thanks Chris, this looks very interesting and has a lot of the functionality I was thinking about already built in. I'm going to dig into this code. Thanks Bruce Hopkins Director Information Technology Chattahoochee Technical College 770-528-4574 From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Chris Anderson [christheco...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:28 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Silverlight Reporting apps Hi Bruce I written about reporting in Silverlight applications as a part of my Building Line Of Business Applications in Silverlight article series on the SilverlightShow.net website. While this isn't using an Oracle it should be straightforward to convert. Here's a link: http://www.silverlightshow.net/items/Building-a-Silverlight-Line-Of-Business-Application-Part-6.aspx Chris 2009/2/6 Jonathan Parker jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com You can use Entity framework with Oracle as well to write your web service: http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtAdoNet35Provider On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Caleb Jenkins caleb.jenk...@improvingenterprises.com wrote: Bruce, You should look at the charting a in the Silvelright Control Toolkit (http://codeplex.com/silverlight) Silverlight applications don't have direct access to any back end databases (SQL Server or Oracle). So the database will have to sit behind some sort of access layer (typically a WCF Service or ADO.NET Data Services). You should be able to use the same concepts found on http://silverlight.net/learn for accessing SQL data and apply them to your Oracle database. Silverlight doesn't care about the specific database because it can't talk directly to it anyways. HTH! Caleb Jenkins Principal Consultant, Microsoft MVP, INETA National Speaker mobile: 469.867.4552 | blog: http://developingUX.com | video: http://communitycast.tv | twitter: http://twitter.com/calebjenkins Improving – It's what we do. www.improvingenterprises.com Learning Solutions | Certified Consulting | Rural-Sourcing From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Hopkins Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:20 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Silverlight Reporting apps Does anyone know of any open source or demo type apps to show how to create a reporting application with a Silverlight frontend that pulls data from an Oracle backend? I've got a little idea I want to play around with a bit and some examples may be useful. Thanks Bruce Hopkins 770-528-4574 Director Information Systems Chattahoochee Technical College http://www.chattcollege.com Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure:
RE: Not SL related But .NET World
In the case of ASP.NET each website will be a different entry point so each website will have a different web.config. Let's say you have two machines (UI and BLL) and you request the default.aspx on the first website (http://uimachine/Default.aspx) and this in turns call a webservice (http://bllmachine/SomeWebService.svc) each will have its own configuration. Miguel A. Madero Reyes http://www.miguelmadero.com/ www.miguelmadero.com (blog) mailto:miguel.mad...@integradorestecnologicos.com m...@miguelmadero.com +61 (0) 406-704-161 P Please reconsider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2009 2:21 AM To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Not SL related But .NET World Ok Miguel, I agree with you about Entry Point of App but in case of if Layers are on the same machine. But when they are different machines like WebServices (have BLL as you ask). But I think in that case we only have WSDL I think so. ? Just calling of the WebMethods.? I am not getting your this point. Muhammad Niaz Sr. Software Engineer +92 321 569 4195 From: Miguel Madero [mailto:m...@miguelmadero.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:36 PM To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Not SL related But .NET World It depends on the apps point of entry and in some sense, the physical distribution of your app. Let's think the UI it's a console app (console.exe), the user executes it and that loads other assemblies (bll.dll and dal.dll), then config file for console.exe will contain the configuration for the app including the ConnectionStrings. Something similar would happen if you have a winforms, website or wpf app and all the other layers loaded in the same process or app domain (as referenced dlls). If the layers are also split in different processes or machines, e.g. BLL is in a different WebSite (e.g. exposes as webservices) we will have a configuration for the client and another one for the BLL since each of those will have their own point of entry. Miguel A. Madero Reyes http://www.miguelmadero.com/ www.miguelmadero.com (blog) mailto:miguel.mad...@integradorestecnologicos.com m...@miguelmadero.com +61 (0) 406-704-161 P Please reconsider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Friday, 2 January 2009 9:44 PM To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Not SL related But .NET World Hi All, This is not SL related question, but .NET :P related. Here is the scenario. Suppose I have 4 Projects in one solution. DTOs DAL BLL UI This is a normal N Tiers App. So what is the problem here I am explaining. I call BLL method in UI Layer which internally call DAL(offcourse) but in DAL there is no App.Config, but you know its calling from UI Layer. So in UI Layer Web.Config/App.Config contains ConnectionString not in DAL. So when I call any BLL method how its pick up the UI connectionString. I know it works but how, please explain technically. Muhammad Niaz Sr. Software Engineer SigmaTec | +92 42 5887084 _ List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists _ List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want
