Re: Silverlight 4 Unit Testing
Hi Peter, Thanks for the info :) When you say the Telerik stuff is a bit tricky to set up on a build server, do you mean tricky as in, a bit tricky but not to bad. Or tricky as in a royal pain in the backside to get it to work? Cheers, Ola On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Peter Gfader pe...@gfader.com wrote: Hi Ola Roy Osherove has done a good presentation about unit testing in Silverlight on NDC2009 http://osherove.com/videos/2009/8/25/unit-testing-in-silverlight-silverunit-and-ms-sliverlight-te.html Regarding Silverlight UI tests: VS2010 doesn't support testing of the Silverlight UI yet Microsoft says they will release a CTP version of Silverlight testing in Q2CY2010 I had very good experience by using Teleriks WebUI studio. + Nice easy recorder + Nice integration into VS - Bit of a hassle to setup on build server *I have realized that Silverlight and unit-testing in the same sentence is a slippery affair ;-)* .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com/ http://twitter.com/peitor On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ola Karlsson ola.e.karls...@gmail.comwrote: Hi people, I'm wanting to start using unit testing for my Silverlight projects (yes I confess I've not been doing it previously, but hey better late than never right), however having a look around on the web, there doesn't seem to be a very clear story on unit testing for Silverlight in general. A lot of the info I found seems to be quite old and somewhat out of date. So I was hoping you guys might be able to point me in the right direction, what are people doing for this, does it work with automated build servers etc. any tips and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Ola ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
I followed this posthttp://strepas.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8D365142BC4869AB!161.entry?wa=wsignin1.0sa=29424176 and created a base VHD with Windows 7 with my configuration (e.g. taskbar at the left, google as my homepage, etc) and common tools (e.g. Tortoise, GIT, FileZilla, Skype, Live, VS08) and then everytime I need another OS, I just create a new VHD based on that one, boot in 1 minute and start installing the new software. It's awesome and I didn't noticed a performance hit. If you plan to do it, use that post a step by step guide. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: /Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment. My lawyers will contact you. I’m suing your for deformation. Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
Language is a living breathing thing that evolves and changes. Embrace the change or go back to the original language before it began changing, banging on rocks and pointing. Of course one could also argue that what follows the phase of evolution and improvement is chaos, devolution and decay. (see l33t speek and sms'ing/twitter abbreviation and how it corrupts language). besides what has dogfood got to do with using your own code, unless you are writing software for pensioners? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: *It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used to **dogfood** a lot of software for the company*** Aha! This is the third time I’ve seen that word used like that in the last week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg of “verbising” (turning nouns into verbs). It’s an American disease that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it. Soon we’ll have 1984 newspeak like “After 5pm I’m going to glass some wine, chair myself and hobbyise some code”. Or “I was walking the garden this morning and I lost my footage and fell over” (that’s not quite verbising, but I’m hearing more of this sort of thing recently). Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
Sorry they put the blue chip in deep when they hired me. I feel them reading my thoughts even now as that's why I wear a tinfoil hat Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote: It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used to dogfood a lot of software for the company Aha! This is the third time I’ve seen that word used like that in the last week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg of “verbising” (turning nouns into verbs). It’s an American disease that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it. Soon we’ll have 1984 newspeak like “After 5pm I’m going to glass some wine, chair myself and hobbyise some code”. Or “I was walking the garden this morning and I lost my footage and fell over” (that’s not quite verbising, but I’m hearing more of this sort of thing recently). Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
Hmmm you can look at it another way: use one word instead of a phrase. Using dogfood as one word to describe the act of using software that you build (my own definition). So in essence this made up word is used in place of a phrase. What I find interesting is you did the same thing with verbising. You made up a word (so says the red squiggly line), and gave it a definition, so that you could re-use it again later in another sentence. You could have of course just used your definition both times. Aren't you guilty of a similar offense? ;-p /Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment. From: Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:35 AM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4) It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used to dogfood a lot of software for the company Aha! This is the third time I've seen that word used like that in the last week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg of verbising (turning nouns into verbs). It's an American disease that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it. Soon we'll have 1984 newspeak like After 5pm I'm going to glass some wine, chair myself and hobbyise some code. Or I was walking the garden this morning and I lost my footage and fell over (that's not quite verbising, but I'm hearing more of this sort of thing recently). Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
Hmmm you can look at it another way: use one word instead of a phrase. Using dogfood as one word to describe the act of using software that you build (my own definition). So in essence this made up word is used in place of a phrase. What I find interesting is you did the same thing with verbising. You made up a word (so says the red squiggly line), and gave it a definition, so that you could re-use it again later in another sentence. You could have of course just used your definition both times. Aren't you guilty of a similar offense? ;-p /Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment. From: Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:35 AM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4) It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used to dogfood a lot of software for the company Aha! This is the third time I've seen that word used like that in the last week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg of verbising (turning nouns into verbs). It's an American disease that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it. Soon we'll have 1984 newspeak like After 5pm I'm going to glass some wine, chair myself and hobbyise some code. Or I was walking the garden this morning and I lost my footage and fell over (that's not quite verbising, but I'm hearing more of this sort of thing recently). Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Silverlight 4
Don't forget .NET 3.5 SL3 support too :). Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features, planning Blend 5, SL5 WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping? Bah! From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their shipping dependencies..heheh - VS2010 compat - .NET 4 compat - SL4 compat - WP7 compat + New Features All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words poor bastards... they appear to have come through in the end Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I'd prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun
Re: Silverlight 4
Lol that'd right you guys get like a day relaxation before vnext planning and production kicks in! I needed a relaxation and all I did was readify.nethttp://readify.net new site - beers on me pete when I'm next back in Seattle :) job well done! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2010, at 2:11 AM, Peter Blois pete...@microsoft.commailto:pete...@microsoft.com wrote: Don’t forget .NET 3.5 SL3 support too ☺. Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features, planning Blend 5, SL5 WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping? Bah! From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their shipping dependencies..heheh - VS2010 compat - .NET 4 compat - SL4 compat - WP7 compat + New Features All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words poor bastards... they appear to have come through in the end Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight mailto:jak...@gmail.comjak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang mailto:winstonp...@gmail.comwinstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph mailto:n...@builttoroam.comn...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.comozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun
Re: Silverlight 4
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [ r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn't add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at postmas...@nab.com.auor by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in
Re: Silverlight 4
Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.comwrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [ r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn't add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at postmas...@nab.com.auor by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in
Re: Silverlight 4
Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.comwrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [ r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn't add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential
RE: Silverlight 4
+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.netmailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.aumailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we
RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released. aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) _ From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I'd prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control
RE: Silverlight 4
A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects. Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once? Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :) Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html
RE: Silverlight 4
Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their shipping dependencies..heheh - VS2010 compat - .NET 4 compat - SL4 compat - WP7 compat + New Features All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words poor bastards... they appear to have come through in the end Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just
RE: Silverlight 4
Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on. VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3) VHD2 - VS2010 (RC) VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC then i'll create a VHD4 VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc) Go Win7! :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight [jordan.kni...@readify.net] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects. Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once? Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :) Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun
VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
OMG. I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7. I still can't pick my jaw up from the floor. Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)? Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on. VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3) VHD2 - VS2010 (RC) VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC then i'll create a VHD4 VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc) Go Win7! :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight [jordan.kni...@readify.net] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects. Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once? Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :) Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-relea sed.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I'd prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
hehe I love those moments From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 3:32 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4) OMG. I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7. I still can’t pick my jaw up from the floor. Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)? Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on. VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3) VHD2 - VS2010 (RC) VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC then i'll create a VHD4 VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc) Go Win7! :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight [jordan.kni...@readify.net] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects. Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once? Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :) Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun
RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)
It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used to dogfood a lot of software for the company it just paid to have VHD instances ready to be used at a moments notice and nuked with equal guilt free.. as i often would keep my primary Win7 build as the clean don't install, pure build Then clone this build, use it as my variety of instance builds etc. I then would get into the habit of keeping documents, source code etc on D: which was my original Win7 instance..that way should i have to put an axe through a VS2010 RC build that's gone south, its not a case of Did i back the music, sourcecode, artwork etc up..answer is Yes, as all use it I also am starting to use it now for customers that i visit onsite. In that if the customer needs me to configure my laptop to suite their environment i new-up an instance and call it CustomerXYZ - Win7 and then archive it for when i next re-visit them etc ..that way its set to the exact settings before and after i leave and not impact my personal setups... I did it via the old skool command prompt, but if you find a tool let me know. as i'd be keen to automate this more. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:32 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4) OMG. I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7. I still can’t pick my jaw up from the floor. Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)? Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on. VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3) VHD2 - VS2010 (RC) VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC then i'll create a VHD4 VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc) Go Win7! :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight [jordan.kni...@readify.net] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects. Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once? Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :) Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I’d prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick
