Re: 16MB RAM in POSE
Hi, I have read about this in the forums..and could only safely conclude that the Treo 300 is the only ROM that will support 16MB, and that no Palm OS ROMS support 16MB at the moment. I find this very had to believe (that no Palm OS ROMs support 16MB) and was wondering if anyone could tell me if there are any Palm OS ROMS which support 16MB of RAM? If it turns out that the Treo is the only one, then it looks like I will have to move my development onto Windows -_- I would really like to keep it on Linux at the moment... Any suggestions would be immensely appreciated. Cheers Daniel _ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
SysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify source code crashes
Hi, I am trying to sort my DB after synchronization. I use
SysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify, but it crashes with this error:
case sysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify:
{
LocalID dbID;
DmOpenRef DB;
dbID = DmFindDatabase (0, KLIENT_DB_NAME);
if(dbID != 0) {
DB = DmOpenDatabase (0, dbID, dmModeReadWrite);
DmQuickSort(DB, ComparKlientByID, 0);
}
}
but it crashes with this memory erorr and comment:
this access usualy means that the application accessed a global variable
after PilotMain was called with layunch code that does not support global
variables.
But I dont use any global variables and I not at all know what can happens
this error. Can anyone advice?
Thanks a lot
Tomas
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Floating point manager
Hi all, I'm facing a compatibility issue with the float manager. On 68k devices, floating point errors (divide by zero, overflow, and so on) set the corresponding flag in the FPU state register, which can be checked by calling the _fp_get_fpscr function. On ARM devices as well as on Simulator, such operations are not considered as errors and return special IEEE754 values (NaN, +INF, -INF and so on). Getting the state register always returns 0. For example: double x, y; Int32 r; x=0.0; y=3.0/x; r=_fp_get_fpscr(); On m68k devices, y contains zero and r is set to flpDivByZero. On ARM devices, y contains +INF and r is not set to flpDivByZero. Disassembling this code snippet shows that the division is implemented by calling the Palm OS _d_div function, not by calling a special routine in the compiler runtime library. So I'm quite sure the problem comes from a change in Palm OS 5.x. I admit this new behavior is much more closer to the IEEE754 specification, but it makes my program breaks. Is there any documented or undocumented way to make the new floating point manager performs like the old one ? Or should I rewrite all my error checking routines, taking into account the OS version ? Thanks in advance, Pascal -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: How to use Dana SDK in Codewarrior 9???
At 08:34 PM 10/15/2003, Victor . wrote:
I want to ask all of you whether you know how to
configure Codewarrior 9.0 to use Dana Alphasmart SDK
(The Palm with wide screen) as well as normal Palm OS
4.0. I am new to Metrowerks products here. Can you
tell me step by step how to do that? Thanks so much.
The Dana SDK ships with CodeWarrior. The easiest way to use it is to pick
it as an option when creating a new project using the wizard. If you've
already started a project, just add a system access path to
{Compiler}/CW for Palm OS Support/(Other SDKs)/AlphaSmart/Include
and then include the appropriate header files and calls to your code, as
described in the Dana Companion Guide PDF.
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RE: How to use Dana SDK in Codewarrior 9???
There's some pretty good docs that ship with CW9. On my PC the docs are in C:\Program Files\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\CW for Palm OS Support\(Other SDKs)\AlphaSmart\docs. Programming for the Dana is pretty straightforward. You have to include a wTap identifier resource to your project, which is documented in the Dana Companion Guide. You can either use two different sets of forms, one for the wide screen and one for a standard Palm, or dynamically size your forms. I'd suggest the latter if you can, because there are other form factors emerging as well. Dynamically sizing forms also allows you to use both the portrait and landscape modes of the Dana. The keyboard is a bit trickier, since the Dana emulator has to emulate the use of shift, ctrl cmd keys (i.e. emulating two keys being pushed simultaneously on screen, where you can only click on one key at a time). It's not too bad, but make sure you test your app on a real device and not just the emulator. And IMO, the documentation for screen usage is better than the docs for the keyboard. Cheers, -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor . Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:35 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: How to use Dana SDK in Codewarrior 9??? Dear Palm Developers: I want to ask all of you whether you know how to configure Codewarrior 9.0 to use Dana Alphasmart SDK (The Palm with wide screen) as well as normal Palm OS 4.0. I am new to Metrowerks products here. Can you tell me step by step how to do that? Thanks so much. Victor __ Do You Yahoo!? A free party for the most shiok photo! http://sg.yahoo.com/shiok -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
I'm seeing this too on my T3. Mike --- Jonatan Fernstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed something strange and rather annoying with the Tungsten T3. The first time that you power off and then powers on the T3 after a reset, the performance of the T3 is changed and everything runs slower than before the power off/power on. Has anyone else seen this on their T3? It is perfectly reproducable ( atleast on mine ). To test this one can install a benchmark app ( such as Speedy 3.0 from www.aldweb.com ), perform a reset, launch Speedy and run a benchmark test. Then power off and power on the device and then run a second benchmark test. Speedy´s Calculation test is ~23 % slower, the Memory read/write test is ~29 % slower and the Graph test is about 25 % slower with the second benchmark test compared to the test being run before the power off / power on. Can someone find an explanation to why this is happening? I have verified that the Bus and CPU core clock settings remain the same before and after, aswell as the SDRAM clock. Is it perhaps some power saving setting that is set at power off, is forgotten about and hence is not reset at power on? Some new task is started and runs in the background after a power on? TIA, Jonatan www.clievideo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
List Glue problems in Tungsten T
We are having problems in LstGlueSetIncrementalSearch on Tungsten T devices. It is not working (You enter char and the list selection isn't changing). Did anyone had the same problems? -- -- Regards, Miron. == Eng. Miron Ophir, The MobiMate Team Home Page: www.mobimate.com ICQ: 6785948 == To reply to this message replace at and dot in e-mail address. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Palm Desktop Install function.
Hi, I am developing an application that creates PDBs from another database system. I would like to know if it is possible to call the Palm Desktop install function externally (as a dll function or similar)to install the PDB automatically, so the next time the user performs a Hotsync operation, the PDB is uploaded. I have tried just copying the PDB to the user\Install directory but it does not work. Regards Oscar -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Problem with T3 graffiti area and menus
Hi, On Simulator T3 when I enable graffiti hide, then hide graffiti, then popup menu, and hide menu, and on winEnterEvent graffiti area opens. Should I call something on winEnterEvent or anywhere else. Or should I save the state of graffiti and then restore it on winEnterEvent. Thanks, Kaloyan Donev -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
I have made the same test and get the same results. but I have no idea about what is causing this!!! Dinho Robert Hildinger wrote: Jonatan Fernstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have noticed something strange and rather annoying with the Tungsten T3. The first time that you power off and then powers on the T3 after a reset, the performance of the T3 is changed and everything runs slower than before the power off/power on. Has anyone else seen this on their T3? It is perfectly reproducable ( atleast on mine ). I've noticed it too, and it's as reproducible on my T3 as it is on yours. Unfortunately, like you I have been unable to figure out what is causing this. I tend to believe it is a thread issue, as I too have checked the CPU clock configuration registers and it appears to be still running at 400 MHz even while running slower. I hope someone has an answer for this... -Robert -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Beam Newer Application Issue
Mike McCollister wrote: I beamed a newer application to my wife's Palm and it came up with this message: An older AppName application already exists. Do you want to replace it with the one you are about to receive? Well, when I beamed an update of one of my applications, it did not detect that it was newer. What is the proper way to do this? Thanks, Mike McCollister There's a 16-bit field in the PRC/PDB format that is called database version (offset 0x22) If I recall correctly, that is what triggers the OS to prompt as you mention above. -Dave -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Another question. why Tungsten C is faster then T3? Thanks Dinho Robert Hildinger wrote: Jonatan Fernstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have noticed something strange and rather annoying with the Tungsten T3. The first time that you power off and then powers on the T3 after a reset, the performance of the T3 is changed and everything runs slower than before the power off/power on. Has anyone else seen this on their T3? It is perfectly reproducable ( atleast on mine ). I've noticed it too, and it's as reproducible on my T3 as it is on yours. Unfortunately, like you I have been unable to figure out what is causing this. I tend to believe it is a thread issue, as I too have checked the CPU clock configuration registers and it appears to be still running at 400 MHz even while running slower. I hope someone has an answer for this... -Robert -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
why Tungsten C is faster then T3? 320x480 vs 320x320 and, virtual grafitti/PIN with updates to the OS, you get slowdowns. features are added. it is natural :P --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
If I knew that I had bought a TC instead. ;( Thanks Dinho Aaron Ardiri wrote: why Tungsten C is faster then T3? 320x480 vs 320x320 and, virtual grafitti/PIN with updates to the OS, you get slowdowns. features are added. it is natural :P --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Changing Form position dinamically
Hi, to all I have a little form, and want to position it over each line of a list when is tapped, and don't know how do Any idea? -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
If I knew that I had bought a TC instead. ;( as a developer - you normally tend to have both :) the Tungsten|C provides 802.11b functionality, if you are doing networking - good for testing. the Tungsten|T3 provides the DIA/PIN functionality - its the first main stepping stone to OS6 with the UI features; so, getting use to it now might help. these two things most developers might be interested in, and, as such can justify having both :) i own both, along with around 50 other palm powered devices.. (yes, i am a sick man) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Changing Form position dinamically
Hi, to all I have a little form, and want to position it over each line of a list when is tapped, and don't know how do Any idea? a form? or, a control within a form? you can use FrmSetObjectPosition to move an object within the form to a specific location on the form. why not use a gadget? and, have that gadget draw so it looks like your little form? what are you trying to do? tool tips? :) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Newbie developer WAS Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Hi Aaron, I'm quite new in this field - palm developer. :-) This T3 is my first Palm and I intend to develop an application to collect some data from our equipment and perform some tests with this. I hope I have chosen the right Palm for this. what do you think? thanks Dinho Aaron Ardiri wrote: If I knew that I had bought a TC instead. ;( as a developer - you normally tend to have both :) the Tungsten|C provides 802.11b functionality, if you are doing networking - good for testing. the Tungsten|T3 provides the DIA/PIN functionality - its the first main stepping stone to OS6 with the UI features; so, getting use to it now might help. these two things most developers might be interested in, and, as such can justify having both :) i own both, along with around 50 other palm powered devices.. (yes, i am a sick man) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Changing Form position dinamically
Thanks, i solved with FrmGetWindowHandle() and WinSetBounds() and work. -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) -- Original Message --- From: Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:26:37 +0200 Subject: Re: Changing Form position dinamically Hi, to all I have a little form, and want to position it over each line of a list when is tapped, and don't know how do Any idea? a form? or, a control within a form? you can use FrmSetObjectPosition to move an object within the form to a specific location on the form. why not use a gadget? and, have that gadget draw so it looks like your little form? what are you trying to do? tool tips? :) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ --- End of Original Message --- -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Text to PDB
Hi All: Is there any third party tool which helps us to convert text file to PDB file in compressed mode. Throw light on the above... thanks, srini __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
.JPG, GIF to PDB
Hi: How to convert a JPG file .PDB file. Any tool in the market which is freely available. thanks srini __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
error, Object not in form - but it is!!
I have a few forms that I'm using a certain technique on. I have sets of items that I want to display, more than can fit on the screen at one time. I looked into tables and scrollbars, but that just looked like a LOT of code for a simple function, so I decided to try something different. I know that the total # of the items that I want to display will never be more than 6, so I've set up a form with 2 buttons, basically an Up and Down buttons. So the first time you hit the form you see items 1-2 and only the Down button is visible. If you hit the down button, you see items 3-4 and both Up and Down buttons are available, etc. etc. There's more to it, but that's the basics. Each item can have 1 to 3 sub-items that are simple labels, so the display looks something like this: Item 1 subItem1 subItem2 Item 2 subItem1 If there are 3 subItems, the subsequent subItem labels must be hidden, and this is where the problem is. I use a method, setLabelText(), that simply does FrmHideObject, FrmCopyLabel, and FrmShowObject. I use this method to set all the labels in this form. When I want to 'hide' a label, I simply pass an empty string. The error is occurring on the 2nd page, the 2nd item, and the 2nd subItem, when I'm trying to blank it out. Any ideas? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: SysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify source code crashes
Why not set a breakpoint and see what line it's crashing in?
You (or your compiler) are using a global somewhere, either that or you are
calling a function not in the first segement.
Tomá¹ Walek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I am trying to sort my DB after synchronization. I use
SysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify, but it crashes with this error:
case sysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify:
{
LocalID dbID;
DmOpenRef DB;
dbID = DmFindDatabase (0, KLIENT_DB_NAME);
if(dbID != 0) {
DB = DmOpenDatabase (0, dbID, dmModeReadWrite);
DmQuickSort(DB, ComparKlientByID, 0);
}
}
but it crashes with this memory erorr and comment:
this access usualy means that the application accessed a global variable
after PilotMain was called with layunch code that does not support global
variables.
But I dont use any global variables and I not at all know what can
happens
this error. Can anyone advice?
Thanks a lot
Tomas
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Re: error, Object not in form - but it is!!
I use a method, setLabelText(), that simply does FrmHideObject, FrmCopyLabel, and FrmShowObject. I use this method to set all the labels in this form. When I want to 'hide' a label, I simply pass an empty string. are you using FrmGetObjectIndex() for your index's? or, just assuming that first index is 0, then 1, 2, 3 etc :) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Palm Desktop Install function.
see the conduit docs -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Problem with T3 graffiti area and menus
OnWinEnterEvent you should be doing this EventType eventToAdd; MemSet(eventToAdd, sizeof(EventType), 0); eventToAdd.eType = (eventsEnum) winDisplayChangedEvent; EvtAddUniqueEventToQueue(eventToAdd, 0, true); in case the grafitti area changed since you were last in the form. Not sure why popping up a menu and removing it would cause the graffiti area to change. You definitely shouldn't need to save the graffiti state and restore it tho. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Well, that's kind of what this thread is all about. When the T3 is reset and before a power off/on sequence it is as fast as a T3, like you would expect. It's only after a power off/on sequence that it slows to about 75% of the performance of a T3. I must also respectfully disagree with Aaron Ardiri in that I do not think this has anything to do with newer OS/feature overhead. If all the features can run just fine after a reset at the T3's higher speed, why can't they do that after a power cycle? 'Tis a mystery... -Robert Dinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another question. why Tungsten C is faster then T3? Thanks Dinho Robert Hildinger wrote: -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
graphic library for PalmOS
Hi Palmeros! I'd like to know if there is some graphic library to develop graphics applications like OpenGL ? Thanks, xavi (a nerd) _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Newbie developer WAS Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Dinho, Like Aaron stated below, unless you need 802.11b specific functionality or on-board keyboard access, there's no reason not to use the T3 for your main development platform. I think you'll be very happy with it! It's nice to be able to own more than one device, but that's a pretty expensive proposition for most. Me personally, my development devices are the T3 and the Sony UX50. I'd have more but that's all I can afford. :-( -Robert Dinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Aaron, I'm quite new in this field - palm developer. :-) This T3 is my first Palm and I intend to develop an application to collect some data from our equipment and perform some tests with this. I hope I have chosen the right Palm for this. what do you think? thanks Dinho Aaron Ardiri wrote: If I knew that I had bought a TC instead. ;( as a developer - you normally tend to have both :) the Tungsten|C provides 802.11b functionality, if you are doing networking - good for testing. the Tungsten|T3 provides the DIA/PIN functionality - its the first main stepping stone to OS6 with the UI features; so, getting use to it now might help. these two things most developers might be interested in, and, as such can justify having both :) i own both, along with around 50 other palm powered devices.. (yes, i am a sick man) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
I must also respectfully disagree with Aaron Ardiri in that I do not think this has anything to do with newer OS/feature overhead. i was not referring to this 'issue' :) in general, you will most likely feel that the T|C runs faster than the T|T3 - even though they run at the same clock speed. the slowdown after this on/off thing is a serious bug. and, a seperate issue from what i was talking about. take the devices, hard reset them, then run benchmarks. see who wins. :) --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Problem with T3 graffiti area and menus
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:24:29PM +0300, Kaloyan Donev wrote: On Simulator T3 when I enable graffiti hide, then hide graffiti, then popup menu, and hide menu, and on winEnterEvent graffiti area opens. Should I call something on winEnterEvent or anywhere else. Or should I save the state of graffiti and then restore it on winEnterEvent. This issue was just discussed - and solved - yesterday on this very forum. Doesn't anybody read the archives any more? See http://tinyurl.com/r5yq -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k.
Dear all, I have a large project created using Object library Palm application wizard using code warrior 9, the application code size 550kb, The code has multi level Inheritance, The base classes do have a lot of virtual functions, which is need in my project. We are getting link error around more than 100 like below. We have made sure that the code in a segment doesn't exceed 64K. Please Help to come out of this problem. Thanks and Regards, Saradhi POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k. Link Error : POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k. Link Error : POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k. Link Error : NMWException.cp: 'std::terminate()' 16-bit data reference to '__CW_FEATURES_PTR' is out of range. Link Error : PalmOS_AbortExit.cpp: 'abort' 16-bit data reference to '__CW_FEATURES_PTR' is out of range. Link Error : PalmOS_GlobalDestructors.c: '__register_global_object' 16-bit data reference to '__global_destructor_chain' is out of range. Link Error : PalmOS_GlobalDestructors.c: '__destroy_global_chain' 16-bit data reference to '__global_destructor_chain' is out of range. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k.
At 10:02 AM 10/16/2003, Vijayasaradhi D. wrote: Dear all, I have a large project created using Object library Palm application wizard using code warrior 9, the application code size 550kb, The code has multi level Inheritance, The base classes do have a lot of virtual functions, which is need in my project. We are getting link error around more than 100 like below. We have made sure that the code in a segment doesn't exceed 64K. You've hit a data size limit. Make sure you're using V9.2, and upgrade your project to expanded mode. This may not work, but its the only way to increase the amount of global data in your application for storing C++ virtual tables and exception tables. See my white paper on the Metrowerks site (off the Palm OS product page) for more details on expanded mode. -- Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED] CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead Palm OS programming help @ www.palmoswerks.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k.
Good day Palm, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 8:02:34 AM, you wrote: VD We are getting link error around more than 100 like below. VD We have made sure that the code in a segment doesn't exceed 64K. Your project uses C++ exceptions. This is the source of your problem. Just look into FAQ section on POL support site (http://www.aqpoint.com/pol/faq.asp). --- Sincerely yours, Maks Pyatkovskiy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: graphic library for PalmOS
http://sourceforge.net/projects/minigl/ Not sure if its ready, or even still being developed. At 10:41 AM 10/16/2003, you wrote: Hi Palmeros! I'd like to know if there is some graphic library to develop graphics applications like OpenGL ? Thanks, xavi (a nerd) _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
RE: Where is the Keylock preference stored?
Found it. For anybody who ends up following this thread, I'll just
paste in my code, hope the tabs aren't too trashed. Have fun!
-Jeff Ishaq
// These are my own empirical values that indicate the status of the
Keylock feature,
// which only seems to appear on devices running Palm OS 5.2.1 and
higher, and which
// are TOTALLY UNDOCUMENTED for some silly reason:
#define kKeylockFtrCrID 'keyl' // The creator of the two
Keylock features
#define kKeylockFtrNumOne 0 // The first Keylock
feature (not sure what it represents)
#define kKeylockFtrNumTwo 1 // The second Keylock
feature (not sure what it represents)
#define kKeylockFormID 23600 // The resource ID of the
Keylock Activated form; may differ on French device
// Possible Keylock values
typedef enum
{
KL_UNINITIALIZED, // Uninitialized state...
KL_NOT_PRESENT, // Keylock is not a feature that is
supported on this device
KL_NEVER, // Keylock exists; is not activated
KL_AUTO, // Keylock exists; is activated
automatically when device turned off
KL_MANUAL // Keylock exists; is activated when you
press hold power btn for 2 seconds
} eKeylockType;
eKeylockType GetKeylockState()
{
// See if the device we're running on has Keylock:
eKeylockType eKeylock = KL_UNINITIALIZED; // We have not yet set
this variable.
UInt32 dwKeylockFtrOne, dwKeylockFtrTwo;
Err err = FtrGet( kKeylockFtrCrID, kKeylockFtrNumOne, dwKeylockFtrOne
);
if ( ftrErrNoSuchFeature == err )
eKeylock = KL_NOT_PRESENT; // Keylock feature DNE...
else if ( errNone == err )
{
// Get the second keylock feature now:
err = FtrGet( kKeylockFtrCrID, kKeylockFtrNumTwo, dwKeylockFtrTwo
);
if ( errNone == err )
{
switch ( dwKeylockFtrTwo )
{
case 0L:
eKeylock = KL_NEVER; break;
case 1L:
eKeylock = KL_AUTO; break;
case 2L:
eKeylock = KL_MANUAL; break;
default:
ErrNonFatalDisplay(Unknown value for Keylock Ftr Two!);
}
}
else
{
// We expect for two values to exist, empirically. Not sure
what
// to do if this is not the case!
ErrNonFatalDisplay(Unable to acquire Keylock state.);
}
}
else
ErrNonFatalDisplay(Error checking the Keylock feature.); //
Unexpected err
return eKeylock;
}
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[Repost] Palm SDK
Hi, I went to the Palm Source website to see if there was an updated SDK. They list a bunch: Palm OS 5 SDK (68K) R3 - Installer Palm OS SDK 5 for CodeWarrior - Installer Unsupported Palm OS SDK 5 for PRC-Tools Will the Palm OS 5 SDK (68K) R3 - Installer work with Falch.net (PRC-Tools) or only the Unsupported Palm OS SDK 5 for PRC-Tools? And is the Unsupported Palm OS SDK 5 for PRC-Tools updated to R3? Thanks. Mark Lenz Software Engineer Control Systems Group Pierce Manufacturing, Inc. (920) 832-3523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this electronic mail message is confidential information and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above, and may be privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately, delete this material from your computer and destroy all related paper media. Please note that the documents transmitted are not intended to be binding until a hard copy has been manually signed by all parties. Thank you. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: error, Object not in form - but it is!!
Yes, I'm using FrmGetObjectIndex() for the indeces. I
use this method all over my app and the other 99.9% of
the time it works fine.
It may even be a method that shipped with the CW 8
tutorial and I just started using it; there's a
comment above it referring to CW 8.
Here it is, in case you're interested:
void setLabelText( FormPtr frm, int labelid, CharPtr s
)
{
int objindex;
objindex = FrmGetObjectIndex( frm, labelid );
FrmHideObject(frm, objindex);
FrmCopyLabel(frm, labelid, s);
FrmShowObject(frm, objindex);
}
Brian
I use a method, setLabelText(), that simply does
FrmHideObject, FrmCopyLabel, and FrmShowObject. I
use
this method to set all the labels in this form.
When I
want to 'hide' a label, I simply pass an empty
string.
are you using FrmGetObjectIndex() for your index's?
or,
just assuming that first index is 0, then 1, 2, 3
etc :)
---
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Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
There should be some performance differences between the T|C and the T|T3. The memory bandwidth required for display refresh isn't coming from nowhere, and the T3 has 50% more pixels to refresh. I don't have a T3 to test, but I wonder if the display configuration or display refresh depth or rate could be changing on wake-up, and differently from after a soft reset? Ron Nicholson HotPaw Productions http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/palm -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
There should be some performance differences between the T|C and the T|T3. The memory bandwidth required for display refresh isn't coming from nowhere, and the T3 has 50% more pixels to refresh. that is exactly what i was saying. in addition, it is an OS with additional enhancements (DIA) which could also take more processing power when doing nothing (it has to actually manage the grafitti area programmatically) I don't have a T3 to test, but I wonder if the display configuration or display refresh depth or rate could be changing on wake-up, and differently from after a soft reset? that could be something. --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php [profile] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Ron Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There should be some performance differences between the T|C and the T|T3. The memory bandwidth required for display refresh isn't coming from nowhere, and the T3 has 50% more pixels to refresh. Wouldn't that depend on whether or not the LCD controller was bus-mastering? If so the CPU utilization for the LCD controller would be negligible, with the only delays coming in those cases where there were bus contention between the LCD controller and the running CPU core. If memory access were the only problem then presumably certain benchmarks that were more memory-intensive would be affected greater than the non-memory-intensive ones, and that doesn't seem to be the case. Case in point: Using test versions of Power48 I can measure how many instructions it emulates per second during both idle modes and active calculation. The speed 'loss' of the T3 appears to be uniform across the board with regards to processor / memory utilization. I don't have a T3 to test, but I wonder if the display configuration or display refresh depth or rate could be changing on wake-up, and differently from after a soft reset? Hey, sounds like a good test! I'll see if I can run this experiment tonight and report the results back to the forum. -Robert -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Problem with SelectDay on T3
George Henne wrote: On a T3 and the T3 Simulator, when I put a bitmap on a form using WinDrawBitmap, then call SelectDay, the bitmap is gone after returning. (The same happens with WinDrawLine, and perhaps others.) The bitmap reappears properly on all other devices, Palm OS 3.0 on. In the past, the SelectDay form had the save bits behind attribute set. This is no longer true on the T3. H^2 -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Design Input Please
I have an application that generates a single database record during the course of being used for 4-6 hours (in addition to a bunch of other stuff). The record is a list of data objects (each about 36 bytes). Depending on the user, the record may get to be as big as 150 or so objects. But it might only be 40-80, with no real way to predict in advance. My question is should I allocate one big record (in the datamanager) that is 3K or so and then resize the record down when I close it or allocate in chunks (40 or 50 objects large) as I go. Or, is this still small enough that it doesn't really make any difference? Thanks, Mitch -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: System not detecting silk button taps...
Jeff Diamond wrote: Our app normally gets a pen tap, and if it sees it's in the area of a silk screen button, it passes the penDown onto the system. We had the problem that the T3 didn't say where its silk screen buttons were, Could you elaborate on this? What method were you trying to use to determine where the silk buttons are? H^2 -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Tungsten T3 performance change after power off -- power on sequence
Hi, I tried this on my T3 as well and it has the same preformance characteristics, after doing a soft reset, the T3 is about 20-25% faster then it normaly would be. Turning the device off, either manuly or due to inactivity, results in the device becoming slower. Anyone tried doing this on the Tungsten E? Cheers, Hans Jonatan Fernstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have noticed something strange and rather annoying with the Tungsten T3. The first time that you power off and then powers on the T3 after a reset, the performance of the T3 is changed and everything runs slower than before the power off/power on. Has anyone else seen this on their T3? It is perfectly reproducable ( atleast on mine ). To test this one can install a benchmark app ( such as Speedy 3.0 from www.aldweb.com ), perform a reset, launch Speedy and run a benchmark test. Then power off and power on the device and then run a second benchmark test. Speedy´s Calculation test is ~23 % slower, the Memory read/write test is ~29 % slower and the Graph test is about 25 % slower with the second benchmark test compared to the test being run before the power off / power on. Can someone find an explanation to why this is happening? I have verified that the Bus and CPU core clock settings remain the same before and after, aswell as the SDRAM clock. Is it perhaps some power saving setting that is set at power off, is forgotten about and hence is not reset at power on? Some new task is started and runs in the background after a power on? TIA, Jonatan www.clievideo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
T3 speed 'loss' investigation
Okay,
With regard to the speed loss that is occuring over power cycles on the T3,
I've performed some experiments to try and isolate the cause, and sadly I've
been unable to do so as yet. I thought some of you might find the results
interesting anyway and can draw your own conclusions...
The first thing I did was try to see if there was any change in the LCD
configuration before and after a power cycle when the T3 was in a freshly
reset mode. I recorded the values of all the LCD configuration registers
before the power cycle and then compared them to the after-cycle values.
There was no significant change in any of the registers.
I tried the same thing with the memory controller and the OS timer and pulse
width modulator registers. Same result...
Since these test didn't reveal the cause of the slowdown, I tried a slightly
different tack. I created the following extremely complex armlet [ ;-) ] as
a direct test of the processor speed:
UInt32 ARMlet_Main(const void *emulStateP, UInt8 *userData68KP,
Call68KFuncType *call68KFuncP)
{
UInt32 x,tval1,tval2;
volatile UInt32 *treg;
treg = (volatile UInt32*)0x90A00010;
tval1 = *treg;
for (x=0;x1000L;x++) { }// simple delay loop
tval2 = *treg;
return tval2-tval1;
}
I turned off all optimizations so CW9.2 wouldn't optimize away the delay
loop. The register at 0x90A00010 is the OS timer counter and runs at 3.6864
MHz. The following results using this armlet over multiple passes were
observed:
Freshly Reset T3: 29, 29, 29, 29, 29, 29, 28, 29, 29, 29 ...
T3 after Power cycle: 29, 29, 44, 45, 233, 44, 229, 29, 29, 44 ...
The results above are fairly intriguing in that 29 counts of the 3.6864 MHz
counter is approximately 7.9 microseconds, which should be small enough to
fit in a single OS time slice.
I invite your comments and interpretation...
-Robert
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Mail To And ExgRequest()
I am trying to create a message using the mailto syntax and the exchange manager. I'm trying to include the to, subject, and body in a single message using the default mail handler (VersaMail and Mail). The results are inconsistent and I never get all the data in the to, subject, or body. I've consulted the varioius PDFs but cannot see anything wrong... ExgSocketType exgSocket; StrCopy(Text, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]body=testing123); MemSet(exgSocket, sizeof(exgSocket), 0); exgSocket.description = Creating Msg; exgSocket.localMode = 1; // Specify local mode exgSocket.count = 1; exgSocket.length = StrLen(Text) + 1; exgSocket.type = text/mail; exgSocket.name = Text; ExgRequest(exgSocket); -Rick -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: graphic library for PalmOS
Other things to look at are SHARK, Razor, and PalmOS SDL (incomplete). Alan Mathew B. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/minigl/ Not sure if its ready, or even still being developed. At 10:41 AM 10/16/2003, you wrote: Hi Palmeros! I'd like to know if there is some graphic library to develop graphics applications like OpenGL ? Thanks, xavi (a nerd) _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: POLForm.cpp: Near data segment is bigger than 64k.
Maks Pyatkovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your project uses C++ exceptions. This is the source of your problem. C++ exceptions are *a* source of the problem; they are not *the* source. Nor is it always necessary to remove them to fix the near data segment limitation (despite your blanket rejoinders to the contrary). We have four non-trivial apps that use C++ exceptions, and only one of them has near data segment problems that were not fixed by expanded mode. If the application is large enough, C++ exceptions certainly will surpass the 64K limit. However, anyone with CodeWarrior 8 or 9 should follow Ben Combee's advice and try expanded mode before changing their code. Jeremy Neal Kelly Software Engineer Peapod -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: T3 speed 'loss' investigation
A few more questions regarding T|T3 units which slow down after a power cycle:
- Are System Sounds (or any other sounds) enabled?
- Did the T3 beep when woken-up?
- If not, does the performance change after running an app which plays
music? (or any other sampled sounds, either after reset or after a
power cycle).
- Does performance change after performing a HotSync?
- Does performance change after beaming over Ir, or changing the Ir
preferences?
- same question about Bluetooth...
Thanks for the fishing expedition,
Ron Nicholson
HotPaw Productions
http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/palm
--Original Message --
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:09:46, Hildinger, Robert writes:
Okay,
With regard to the speed loss that is occuring over power cycles on the T3,
I've performed some experiments to try and isolate the cause, and sadly I've
been unable to do so as yet. I thought some of you might find the results
interesting anyway and can draw your own conclusions...
The first thing I did was try to see if there was any change in the LCD
configuration before and after a power cycle when the T3 was in a freshly
reset mode. I recorded the values of all the LCD configuration registers
before the power cycle and then compared them to the after-cycle values.
There was no significant change in any of the registers.
I tried the same thing with the memory controller and the OS timer and pulse
width modulator registers. Same result...
Since these test didn't reveal the cause of the slowdown, I tried a slightly
different tack. I created the following extremely complex armlet [ ;-) ] as
a direct test of the processor speed:
UInt32 ARMlet_Main(const void *emulStateP, UInt8 *userData68KP,
Call68KFuncType *call68KFuncP)
{
UInt32 x,tval1,tval2;
volatile UInt32 *treg;
treg = (volatile UInt32*)0x90A00010;
tval1 = *treg;
for (x=0;x1000L;x++) { }// simple delay loop
tval2 = *treg;
return tval2-tval1;
}
I turned off all optimizations so CW9.2 wouldn't optimize away the delay
loop. The register at 0x90A00010 is the OS timer counter and runs at 3.6864
MHz. The following results using this armlet over multiple passes were
observed:
Freshly Reset T3: 29, 29, 29, 29, 29, 29, 28, 29, 29, 29 ...
T3 after Power cycle: 29, 29, 44, 45, 233, 44, 229, 29, 29, 44 ...
The results above are fairly intriguing in that 29 counts of the 3.6864 MHz
counter is approximately 7.9 microseconds, which should be small enough to
fit in a single OS time slice.
I invite your comments and interpretation...
-Robert
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Palm OS coding contest
I'm hosting a little coding contest; please help spread the word by telling everyone you know! If you can help by linking to the page or helping sponsor, please let me know :) This is all in the spirit of fun and challenging ourselves. You're all welcome to submit an entry of course! http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/contest.html Cheers! jeff -- Have you played Atari today? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
FW: Near Data Segment is bigger than 64K
HI, I am developing an application having some data tables. These tables contains some data to be used but due to these tables data segement size is exceeding 64K limit.Please let me know how to solve such problems. I can't aoid declaring these data tables. I am using the Large code model. I am also using C++ exceptions and I am not in a position to remove that support. Thanks Regards Maneesh P.S. I had read on the forum that expanded mode could help in solvindg such problems and Metrowerks has some white paper over it. But I am not able to download it from internet. I believe there is some problem in metrowerks site. Please help. If somebody has the copy of it and could share it please let me know. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: FW: Near Data Segment is bigger than 64K
Maneesh, These tables contains some data to be used but due to these tables data segement size is exceeding 64K limit.Please let me know how to solve such problems. You might want to create a multi-segment application and then arrange your files accordingly in different segments, if you have not already done that. Hope this helps. Prashant --- Maneesh Gupta, Noida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I am developing an application having some data tables. These tables contains some data to be used but due to these tables data segement size is exceeding 64K limit.Please let me know how to solve such problems. I can't aoid declaring these data tables. I am using the Large code model. I am also using C++ exceptions and I am not in a position to remove that support. Thanks Regards Maneesh P.S. I had read on the forum that expanded mode could help in solvindg such problems and Metrowerks has some white paper over it. But I am not able to download it from internet. I believe there is some problem in metrowerks site. Please help. If somebody has the copy of it and could share it please let me know. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: FW: Near Data Segment is bigger than 64K
At 11:30 PM 10/16/2003, Maneesh Gupta, Noida wrote: P.S. I had read on the forum that expanded mode could help in solvindg such problems and Metrowerks has some white paper over it. But I am not able to download it from internet. I believe there is some problem in metrowerks site. Please help. If somebody has the copy of it and could share it please let me know. I just downloaded a copy of the white paper from http://www.metrowerks.com/pdf/Expanded_Mode.pdf Try this link again. -- Ben Combee Senior Software Developer, CodeWarrior tools Metrowerks Corporation (a Motorola Company) -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Converting .PDB file to JPG
Hello, I have a Sony ClieNX80 . I have taken snaps using the camera available on the CLIE. I had downloaded the photo using HotSyn to the Computer. But the snaps are stored in the .PDB format. I want to convert it to .jpg, is there any tools for converting it?? Regards, Marianne -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: FW: Near Data Segment is bigger than 64K
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:33:47, Maneesh Gupta, Noida writes: I am developing an application having some data tables. These tables contains some data to be used but due to these tables data segement size is exceeding 64K limit.Please let me know how to solve such problems. Global tables can usually be replaced, with very few code changes, into pointers to data resources. In your startup code just point the global table bases to these resources after getting their handles and locking them. If the table entries need to be modifiable, you can copy the data in the data resources into the dynamic heap first. You can also assemble global tables much larger than 64k using the copy method. I can't aoid declaring these data tables. One shortcut to creating these data resources is just to declare the data tables in some development code, and then write that chunk of memory out to a resource. These data resources can later be cut and pasted into the actual application which needs them. Ron Nicholson HotPaw Productions http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/palm -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
