Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-12-02 Thread Eric E. Monson

Hey John,

Unfortunately, this didn't do it either.

When you get around to looking at it more closely, load up the simple  
data set I sent at the beginning of the thread (or that Ken posted to  
the bug report), put two temporal shift scales branching off of it,  
one with zero post-shift and one with a post-shift of 1. Group those  
two temporal shift scales and look at the output.


Step forward and backward in time -- the behavior is different each  
direction. Go to the Information tab of the grouped data set -- it  
shows a Multi-block Dataset of two Unstructured Grids, and the Current  
Time Step for each looks right, but the data itself (the scalar  
"Step", and the X range) is clearly not different between the two UGs.  
Also, in one direction, the Current Time only increments every other  
click of the time increment button.


Hope you're able to track it down. Thanks again,
-Eric


On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:39 PM, John Biddiscombe wrote:


Eric

OK I was waiting for some files to copy, so I had a quick edit of  
vtkTemporalSnapToTimeStep and vtkTemporalShiftScale. Both these  
classes derived from vtkTemporalDataSetAlgorithm, but this was  
wrong, when we reimplemented the Temporal stuff, it was possible for  
these classes to derive from vtkDataObject. All they do is change  
information.
You can now connect them to normal filters willy nilly, without  
vtkTemporalDataSets being created all over the shop.


Tyr updating from CVS the 4 files in Hybrid
vtkTemporalSnap* vtkTemporalShift*

then have another go. Get rid of any TemporalCache filters that you  
don't need too.


I've been meaning to do this for ages. I hope it makes a difference.  
I still haven't actually read all your emails, but I'm sure there  
was some dodgy temporal caching/dataset swapping going on, this  
ought to make it easier to track down when I do look into it  
properly at least 


JB


Hey John,

I really appreciate the suggestion, but it doesn't seem to do  
anything to solve this problem.


If you can take a look at this after Christmas that would be great!

Thanks,
-Eric


On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:00 AM, John Biddiscombe wrote:


Eric,

I had a temporal problem and made a small change to  
vtkCompositeDataPipeline which fixed my trouble. It occurred to me  
(and I confess that due to other deadlines, I have not followed  
this thread carefully, but I will fix the problem after Christmas)  
- that perhaps your problem was related.


Try this

open vtkCompositeDataPipeline

search for two lines with hasRTD = true and comment them out -  
like so!

// hasRTD = true;

Now tell me if your pipeline does what you expect.

I don't know why REQUIRES_TIME_DOWNSTREAM is actually being  
forwarded up the pipeline, the executive should replace the output  
of the filter it is working with now, and others can do as they  
please. I was getting all sorts of nonsense with multiple temporal  
filters causing outputs to be replaced all over the place, this  
solved it.


It may not be applicable to your case, but if it works...please  
let me know.


JB

I added this information to the bug report.

-Ken


On 11/25/08 11:33 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Hey Ken,

  Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure
  to see it pop up again! :)

  Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as
  long as I do the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first  
click

  on the shift(0) filter, and then command-click to also select the
  shift(1) filter and then group the data sets, stepping forward in
  time only shows one point, but then backwards in time shows the
  correct thing: two points trailing each other. If I select the
  shift(1) first and then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time
  works, but not backwards. (Although, I still get a "stutter"
  sometimes where on the second click forwards after applying the
  group filter the points collapse for one step...)

  If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the
  caches (up from the original 2), I can get the points to look
  right for one or two steps forwards sometimes. They always look
  right going forward if I've just stepped backwards through that
  time range so the data is in the caches.

  So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the
  "right" order for the order in which the time is going to be
  stepped...

  Thanks,
  -Eric


  On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

  Nuts. I guess it wasn’t fixed after all. I submitted a new  
bug

  report with your new description.

  http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

  Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal
  cache filter. (Details in the bug report.)

  -Ken


  On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



  Hey,

  Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem  
difficult to

  describe succinctly...

  In Febr

Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-12-02 Thread John Biddiscombe

erratum...

it was possible for these classes to derive from vtkDataObjectAlgorithm

Note to self : re-Read before clicking send.

JB

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Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-12-02 Thread John Biddiscombe

Eric

OK I was waiting for some files to copy, so I had a quick edit of 
vtkTemporalSnapToTimeStep and vtkTemporalShiftScale. Both these classes 
derived from vtkTemporalDataSetAlgorithm, but this was wrong, when we 
reimplemented the Temporal stuff, it was possible for these classes to 
derive from vtkDataObject. All they do is change information.
You can now connect them to normal filters willy nilly, without 
vtkTemporalDataSets being created all over the shop.


Tyr updating from CVS the 4 files in Hybrid
vtkTemporalSnap* vtkTemporalShift*

then have another go. Get rid of any TemporalCache filters that you 
don't need too.


I've been meaning to do this for ages. I hope it makes a difference. I 
still haven't actually read all your emails, but I'm sure there was some 
dodgy temporal caching/dataset swapping going on, this ought to make it 
easier to track down when I do look into it properly at least 


JB


Hey John,

I really appreciate the suggestion, but it doesn't seem to do anything 
to solve this problem.


If you can take a look at this after Christmas that would be great!

Thanks,
-Eric


On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:00 AM, John Biddiscombe wrote:


Eric,

I had a temporal problem and made a small change to 
vtkCompositeDataPipeline which fixed my trouble. It occurred to me 
(and I confess that due to other deadlines, I have not followed this 
thread carefully, but I will fix the problem after Christmas) - that 
perhaps your problem was related.


Try this

open vtkCompositeDataPipeline

search for two lines with hasRTD = true and comment them out - like so!
// hasRTD = true;

Now tell me if your pipeline does what you expect.

I don't know why REQUIRES_TIME_DOWNSTREAM is actually being forwarded 
up the pipeline, the executive should replace the output of the 
filter it is working with now, and others can do as they please. I 
was getting all sorts of nonsense with multiple temporal filters 
causing outputs to be replaced all over the place, this solved it.


It may not be applicable to your case, but if it works...please let 
me know.


JB

I added this information to the bug report.

-Ken


On 11/25/08 11:33 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   Hey Ken,

   Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure
   to see it pop up again! :)

   Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as
   long as I do the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first click
   on the shift(0) filter, and then command-click to also select the
   shift(1) filter and then group the data sets, stepping forward in
   time only shows one point, but then backwards in time shows the
   correct thing: two points trailing each other. If I select the
   shift(1) first and then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time
   works, but not backwards. (Although, I still get a "stutter"
   sometimes where on the second click forwards after applying the
   group filter the points collapse for one step...)

   If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the
   caches (up from the original 2), I can get the points to look
   right for one or two steps forwards sometimes. They always look
   right going forward if I've just stepped backwards through that
   time range so the data is in the caches.

   So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the
   "right" order for the order in which the time is going to be
   stepped...

   Thanks,
   -Eric


   On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

   Nuts. I guess it wasn’t fixed after all. I submitted a new bug
   report with your new description.

   http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

   Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal
   cache filter. (Details in the bug report.)

   -Ken


   On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



   Hey,

   Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem 
difficult to

   describe succinctly...

   In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift
   Scale filters
   as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly
   point
   velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my
   simulation
   output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating
   properly, and
   Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case
   and filed
   the bug 6307:

   http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

   which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test
   case seemed to
   work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

   If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the
   animation seems
   to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If
   you turn off
   the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can
   see that no
   box

Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-12-02 Thread Eric E. Monson

Hey John,

I really appreciate the suggestion, but it doesn't seem to do anything  
to solve this problem.


If you can take a look at this after Christmas that would be great!

Thanks,
-Eric


On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:00 AM, John Biddiscombe wrote:


Eric,

I had a temporal problem and made a small change to  
vtkCompositeDataPipeline which fixed my trouble. It occurred to me  
(and I confess that due to other deadlines, I have not followed this  
thread carefully, but I will fix the problem after Christmas) - that  
perhaps your problem was related.


Try this

open vtkCompositeDataPipeline

search for two lines with hasRTD = true and comment them out - like  
so!

// hasRTD = true;

Now tell me if your pipeline does what you expect.

I don't know why REQUIRES_TIME_DOWNSTREAM is actually being  
forwarded up the pipeline, the executive should replace the output  
of the filter it is working with now, and others can do as they  
please. I was getting all sorts of nonsense with multiple temporal  
filters causing outputs to be replaced all over the place, this  
solved it.


It may not be applicable to your case, but if it works...please let  
me know.


JB

I added this information to the bug report.

-Ken


On 11/25/08 11:33 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   Hey Ken,

   Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure
   to see it pop up again! :)

   Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as
   long as I do the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first click
   on the shift(0) filter, and then command-click to also select the
   shift(1) filter and then group the data sets, stepping forward in
   time only shows one point, but then backwards in time shows the
   correct thing: two points trailing each other. If I select the
   shift(1) first and then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time
   works, but not backwards. (Although, I still get a "stutter"
   sometimes where on the second click forwards after applying the
   group filter the points collapse for one step...)

   If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the
   caches (up from the original 2), I can get the points to look
   right for one or two steps forwards sometimes. They always look
   right going forward if I've just stepped backwards through that
   time range so the data is in the caches.

   So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the
   "right" order for the order in which the time is going to be
   stepped...

   Thanks,
   -Eric


   On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

   Nuts. I guess it wasn’t fixed after all. I submitted a new bug
   report with your new description.

   http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

   Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal
   cache filter. (Details in the bug report.)

   -Ken


   On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



   Hey,

   Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem  
difficult to

   describe succinctly...

   In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift
   Scale filters
   as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly
   point
   velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my
   simulation
   output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating
   properly, and
   Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case
   and filed
   the bug 6307:

   http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

   which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test
   case seemed to
   work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

   If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the
   animation seems
   to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If
   you turn off
   the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can
   see that no
   boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal
   filters are
   turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box
   moves and then
   the other.

   I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output
   printed by
   the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see  
that the

   temporal data sets have the correct time, but the
   ImageData within
   them doesn't match.
   ..

   All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a
   simple data set
   with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set --
   I'll also
   attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up,
   but you'll
   have to change the path for the data file in the state
   file manually
   if you want to use it).

   The pip

Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-12-02 Thread John Biddiscombe

Eric,

I had a temporal problem and made a small change to 
vtkCompositeDataPipeline which fixed my trouble. It occurred to me (and 
I confess that due to other deadlines, I have not followed this thread 
carefully, but I will fix the problem after Christmas) - that perhaps 
your problem was related.


Try this

open vtkCompositeDataPipeline

search for two lines with hasRTD = true and comment them out - like so!
// hasRTD = true;

Now tell me if your pipeline does what you expect.

I don't know why REQUIRES_TIME_DOWNSTREAM is actually being forwarded up 
the pipeline, the executive should replace the output of the filter it 
is working with now, and others can do as they please. I was getting all 
sorts of nonsense with multiple temporal filters causing outputs to be 
replaced all over the place, this solved it.


It may not be applicable to your case, but if it works...please let me know.

JB

I added this information to the bug report.

-Ken


On 11/25/08 11:33 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Ken,

Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure
to see it pop up again! :)

Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as
long as I do the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first click
on the shift(0) filter, and then command-click to also select the
shift(1) filter and then group the data sets, stepping forward in
time only shows one point, but then backwards in time shows the
correct thing: two points trailing each other. If I select the
shift(1) first and then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time
works, but not backwards. (Although, I still get a "stutter"
sometimes where on the second click forwards after applying the
group filter the points collapse for one step...)

If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the
caches (up from the original 2), I can get the points to look
right for one or two steps forwards sometimes. They always look
right going forward if I've just stepped backwards through that
time range so the data is in the caches.

So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the
"right" order for the order in which the time is going to be
stepped...

Thanks,
-Eric


On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

Nuts. I guess it wasn’t fixed after all. I submitted a new bug
report with your new description.

http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal
cache filter. (Details in the bug report.)

-Ken


On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey,

Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem difficult to
describe succinctly...

In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift
Scale filters
as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly
point
velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my
simulation
output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating
properly, and
Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case
and filed
the bug 6307:

http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test
case seemed to
work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the
animation seems
to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If
you turn off
the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can
see that no
boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal
filters are
turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box
moves and then
the other.

I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output
printed by
the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see that the
temporal data sets have the correct time, but the
ImageData within
them doesn't match.
..

All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a
simple data set
with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set --
I'll also
attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up,
but you'll
have to change the path for the data file in the state
file manually
if you want to use it).

The pipeline is: Load data. Add a Temporal Shift Scale
with (post)
shift=0. Add another TSS off the original data set with
(post) shift =
1. Highlight both

Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-11-25 Thread Moreland, Kenneth
I added this information to the bug report.

-Ken


On 11/25/08 11:33 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Ken,

Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure to see it pop 
up again! :)

Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as long as I do 
the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first click on the shift(0) filter, 
and then command-click to also select the shift(1) filter and then group the 
data sets, stepping forward in time only shows one point, but then backwards in 
time shows the correct thing: two points trailing each other. If I select the 
shift(1) first and then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time works, but not 
backwards. (Although, I still get a "stutter" sometimes where on the second 
click forwards after applying the group filter the points collapse for one 
step...)

If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the caches (up from 
the original 2), I can get the points to look right for one or two steps 
forwards sometimes. They always look right going forward if I've just stepped 
backwards through that time range so the data is in the caches.

So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the "right" order 
for the order in which the time is going to be stepped...

Thanks,
-Eric


On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

Nuts.  I guess it wasn't fixed after all.  I submitted a new bug report with 
your new description.

   http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

 Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal cache filter.  
(Details in the bug report.)

 -Ken


 On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey,

 Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem difficult to
 describe succinctly...

 In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift Scale filters
 as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly point
 velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my simulation
 output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating properly, and
 Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case and filed
 the bug 6307:

 http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

 which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test case seemed to
 work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

 If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the animation seems
 to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If you turn off
 the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can see that no
 boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal filters are
 turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box moves and then
 the other.

 I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output printed by
 the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see that the
 temporal data sets have the correct time, but the ImageData within
 them doesn't match.
 ..

 All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a simple data set
 with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set -- I'll also
 attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up, but you'll
 have to change the path for the data file in the state file manually
 if you want to use it).

 The pipeline is: Load data. Add a Temporal Shift Scale with (post)
 shift=0. Add another TSS off the original data set with (post) shift =
 1. Highlight both TSSs and route into a Python Programmable Filter
 with Unstructured Grid output and this script:

 in0 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,0)
 ds0 = in0.GetTimeStep(0)
 in1 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,1)
 ds1 = in1.GetTimeStep(0)
 print 'in1 t = %.1f' % in1.GetInformation().Get(in1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
 print 'ds1 t = %.1f' % ds1.GetInformation().Get(ds1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
 print 'in0 t = %.1f' % in0.GetInformation().Get(in0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
 print 'ds0 t = %.1f' % ds0.GetInformation().Get(ds0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
 out1 = self.GetOutputDataObject(0)
 out1.ShallowCopy(ds0)
 print 'out1 t = %.1f' %
 out1.GetInformation().Get(out1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)

 When I animate this (PV CVS or 3.4, OS X 10.5.5), with the TSSs on and
 the PPF off, I see the expected: two points, one following the other.
 When the TSSs are off and the PPF is on, only one point shows up.
 Also, the behavior is different if the animation is stepped backwards
 rather than forwards. And, the printed Output times from the PPF show
 one of the ImageData sets time doesn't match its temporal host.

 As in Ken's example, this works very similarly with a Group filter in
 place of the PPF.

 This still seems very confusing, and I hope someone will have some clue!

 Thanks,
 -Eric

 --
 Eric E Monson
 Duke Visualization Technology Group

 Test data set:





     Kenneth Moreland
 ***  Sandia National Laboratories
 ***
 *** *** ***  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 **  ***  **  phone: (505) 844-8919
 ***  web:   http://www.cs.unm.edu/~kmorel







 

Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-11-25 Thread Eric E. Monson

Hey Ken,

Thanks a lot for looking into this -- I'm sure it was a pleasure to  
see it pop up again! :)


Your workaround using the temporal cache filter seems to work as long  
as I do the grouping in the "correct" order. If I first click on the  
shift(0) filter, and then command-click to also select the shift(1)  
filter and then group the data sets, stepping forward in time only  
shows one point, but then backwards in time shows the correct thing:  
two points trailing each other. If I select the shift(1) first and  
then the shift(0), stepping forwards in time works, but not backwards.  
(Although, I still get a "stutter" sometimes where on the second click  
forwards after applying the group filter the points collapse for one  
step...)


If I select in the "wrong" order, but increase the size of the caches  
(up from the original 2), I can get the points to look right for one  
or two steps forwards sometimes. They always look right going forward  
if I've just stepped backwards through that time range so the data is  
in the caches.


So, temporal caching fixes it if the filters are selected in the  
"right" order for the order in which the time is going to be stepped...


Thanks,
-Eric


On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:

Nuts.  I guess it wasn’t fixed after all.  I submitted a new bug  
report with your new description.


  http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal cache  
filter.  (Details in the bug report.)


-Ken


On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey,

Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem difficult to
describe succinctly...

In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift Scale filters
as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly point
velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my simulation
output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating properly, and
Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case and filed
the bug 6307:

http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test case seemed to
work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the animation seems
to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If you turn off
the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can see that no
boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal filters are
turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box moves and then
the other.

I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output printed by
the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see that the
temporal data sets have the correct time, but the ImageData within
them doesn't match.
..

All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a simple data set
with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set -- I'll also
attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up, but you'll
have to change the path for the data file in the state file manually
if you want to use it).

The pipeline is: Load data. Add a Temporal Shift Scale with (post)
shift=0. Add another TSS off the original data set with (post) shift =
1. Highlight both TSSs and route into a Python Programmable Filter
with Unstructured Grid output and this script:

in0 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,0)
ds0 = in0.GetTimeStep(0)
in1 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,1)
ds1 = in1.GetTimeStep(0)
print 'in1 t = %.1f' %  
in1.GetInformation().Get(in1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds1 t = %.1f' %  
ds1.GetInformation().Get(ds1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'in0 t = %.1f' %  
in0.GetInformation().Get(in0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds0 t = %.1f' %  
ds0.GetInformation().Get(ds0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)

out1 = self.GetOutputDataObject(0)
out1.ShallowCopy(ds0)
print 'out1 t = %.1f' %
out1.GetInformation().Get(out1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)

When I animate this (PV CVS or 3.4, OS X 10.5.5), with the TSSs on and
the PPF off, I see the expected: two points, one following the other.
When the TSSs are off and the PPF is on, only one point shows up.
Also, the behavior is different if the animation is stepped backwards
rather than forwards. And, the printed Output times from the PPF show
one of the ImageData sets time doesn't match its temporal host.

As in Ken's example, this works very similarly with a Group filter in
place of the PPF.

This still seems very confusing, and I hope someone will have some  
clue!


Thanks,
-Eric

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Duke Visualization Technology Group

Test data set:




     Kenneth Moreland
***  Sandia National Laboratories
***
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**  ***  **  phone: (505) 844-8919
***  web:   http://www.cs.unm.edu/~kmorel



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Re: [Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-11-24 Thread Moreland, Kenneth
Nuts.  I guess it wasn't fixed after all.  I submitted a new bug report with 
your new description.

  http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=8156

Note that I think I found a workaround using the temporal cache filter.  
(Details in the bug report.)

-Ken


On 11/21/08 8:15 AM, "Eric E. Monson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey,

Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem difficult to
describe succinctly...

In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift Scale filters
as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly point
velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my simulation
output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating properly, and
Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case and filed
the bug 6307:

http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test case seemed to
work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.

If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the animation seems
to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If you turn off
the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can see that no
boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal filters are
turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box moves and then
the other.

I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output printed by
the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see that the
temporal data sets have the correct time, but the ImageData within
them doesn't match.
..

All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a simple data set
with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set -- I'll also
attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up, but you'll
have to change the path for the data file in the state file manually
if you want to use it).

The pipeline is: Load data. Add a Temporal Shift Scale with (post)
shift=0. Add another TSS off the original data set with (post) shift =
1. Highlight both TSSs and route into a Python Programmable Filter
with Unstructured Grid output and this script:

in0 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,0)
ds0 = in0.GetTimeStep(0)
in1 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,1)
ds1 = in1.GetTimeStep(0)
print 'in1 t = %.1f' % in1.GetInformation().Get(in1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds1 t = %.1f' % ds1.GetInformation().Get(ds1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'in0 t = %.1f' % in0.GetInformation().Get(in0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds0 t = %.1f' % ds0.GetInformation().Get(ds0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
out1 = self.GetOutputDataObject(0)
out1.ShallowCopy(ds0)
print 'out1 t = %.1f' %
out1.GetInformation().Get(out1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)

When I animate this (PV CVS or 3.4, OS X 10.5.5), with the TSSs on and
the PPF off, I see the expected: two points, one following the other.
When the TSSs are off and the PPF is on, only one point shows up.
Also, the behavior is different if the animation is stepped backwards
rather than forwards. And, the printed Output times from the PPF show
one of the ImageData sets time doesn't match its temporal host.

As in Ken's example, this works very similarly with a Group filter in
place of the PPF.

This still seems very confusing, and I hope someone will have some clue!

Thanks,
-Eric

--
Eric E Monson
Duke Visualization Technology Group

Test data set:




     Kenneth Moreland
***  Sandia National Laboratories
***
*** *** ***  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
**  ***  **  phone: (505) 844-8919
***  web:   http://www.cs.unm.edu/~kmorel

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[Paraview] Multiple temporal shifts still not working right

2008-11-21 Thread Eric E. Monson

Hey,

Sorry for the long email, but I find this problem difficult to  
describe succinctly...


In February I was trying to use multiple Temporal Shift Scale filters  
as input to a Python Programmable Filter to do on-the-fly point  
velocity calculations (for diffusing particles in my simulation  
output). There were troubles with the pipeline updating properly, and  
Ken Moreland came up with a nice self-contained test case and filed  
the bug 6307:


http://www.paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=6307

which was listed in August as "fixed" because the test case seemed to  
work now. But, I don't think this is really resolved yet.


If you load in the TimeShiftTest2.pvsm state file, the animation seems  
to play correctly, but I think that's a red herring. If you turn off  
the visibility of the TemporalShiftScale filters, you can see that no  
boxes move until after t=1.0, whereas if the temporal filters are  
turned on, and the group filter is turned off, one box moves and then  
the other.


I don't know if this helps, but if you look at the Output printed by  
the Python filter in TimeShiftTest1.pvsm, you can see that the  
temporal data sets have the correct time, but the ImageData within  
them doesn't match.

..

All of this is much more clear to me when I load in a simple data set  
with one point moving in time (attached Xdmf data set -- I'll also  
attach a link to a state file which sets this pipeline up, but you'll  
have to change the path for the data file in the state file manually  
if you want to use it).


The pipeline is: Load data. Add a Temporal Shift Scale with (post)  
shift=0. Add another TSS off the original data set with (post) shift =  
1. Highlight both TSSs and route into a Python Programmable Filter  
with Unstructured Grid output and this script:


in0 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,0)
ds0 = in0.GetTimeStep(0)
in1 = self.GetInputDataObject(0,1)
ds1 = in1.GetTimeStep(0)
print 'in1 t = %.1f' % in1.GetInformation().Get(in1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds1 t = %.1f' % ds1.GetInformation().Get(ds1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'in0 t = %.1f' % in0.GetInformation().Get(in0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
print 'ds0 t = %.1f' % ds0.GetInformation().Get(ds0.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)
out1 = self.GetOutputDataObject(0)
out1.ShallowCopy(ds0)
print 'out1 t = %.1f' %  
out1.GetInformation().Get(out1.DATA_TIME_STEPS(),0)


When I animate this (PV CVS or 3.4, OS X 10.5.5), with the TSSs on and  
the PPF off, I see the expected: two points, one following the other.  
When the TSSs are off and the PPF is on, only one point shows up.  
Also, the behavior is different if the animation is stepped backwards  
rather than forwards. And, the printed Output times from the PPF show  
one of the ImageData sets time doesn't match its temporal host.


As in Ken's example, this works very similarly with a Group filter in  
place of the PPF.


This still seems very confusing, and I hope someone will have some clue!

Thanks,
-Eric

--
Eric E Monson
Duke Visualization Technology Group

Test data set:



singlePointTest1.xmf
Description: Binary data



State file to set up pipeline automatically:
http://www.cs.duke.edu/~emonson/TimeShiftData3.pvsm


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