[Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-14 Thread Christoph Grüninger
Dear ParaView crew,
congratulations on your 4.1 release, I am looking forward to give it and
its new features a try.

Sadly, once more I am missing the long awaited (5 years [1]), highly
demanded (203 votes on uservoice [2]), but still back locked [3] reload
button.
Can you give an official statement whether this is planned for the near
future? Is there a technical or other reason that makes this button so
difficult to implement? How about a fund raising campaign to get some
money for its development? I am sure there are plenty of bugged users
willing to sponsor the reload button.

Love your work,
Christoph

[1] http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=7306
[2] http://paraview.uservoice.com/
[3] http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=12100

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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-14 Thread Sebastien Jourdain
There was a talk about that feature in the mailing list with a work around
here:

http://paraview.markmail.org/thread/riu2by4yof2m4e5s#query:+page:1+mid:7dg2jctve32oijwe+state:results

But some reader do have some optimized internal caching which will prevent
this trick to work. But maybe, for the reader that you are interested in,
that might be good enough...

Seb


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Christoph Grüninger <
christoph.gruenin...@iws.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:

> Dear ParaView crew,
> congratulations on your 4.1 release, I am looking forward to give it and
> its new features a try.
>
> Sadly, once more I am missing the long awaited (5 years [1]), highly
> demanded (203 votes on uservoice [2]), but still back locked [3] reload
> button.
> Can you give an official statement whether this is planned for the near
> future? Is there a technical or other reason that makes this button so
> difficult to implement? How about a fund raising campaign to get some
> money for its development? I am sure there are plenty of bugged users
> willing to sponsor the reload button.
>
> Love your work,
> Christoph
>
> [1] http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=7306
> [2] http://paraview.uservoice.com/
> [3] http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=12100
>
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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-14 Thread Christoph Grüninger

Hi Scott,
thanks for your clarification. I wasn't aware of the fact, 
that

the reload button has to be written for every reader.
Now I see that it will be a lot of work to get the reload 
button.
On the other hand, reader by reader this feature could be 
implemented.


I am using the VTK reader and will try Sebastien's work 
around. Thanks
so far. This won't cover the numerious wishes for the reload 
button

but alleviate my pain.

I am still wondering why Kitware / the ParaView devs do not 
communicate
the reasons better. I know users switching to VisIt only due 
to its
reload button. Please update your statements on uservoice and 
the bug

tracker. Otherwise people might think you don't listen.

Thanks for the answers,
Christoph
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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-15 Thread Bruno Santos

  
  
Greetings to all!
  
  @Christoph: In case you are using the legacy VTK reader, have a
  look here:
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-paraview/78129-update-data-paraview.html#post446239
  A few posts down:
  http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-paraview/78129-update-data-paraview.html#post449046
  - is a script for reloading all legacy VTK files.
  
  Best regards,
  Bruno
  
  On 14-01-2014 21:09, Christoph Grüninger wrote:

Hi
  Scott,
  
  thanks for your clarification. I wasn't aware of the fact, that
  
  the reload button has to be written for every reader.
  
  Now I see that it will be a lot of work to get the reload button.
  
  On the other hand, reader by reader this feature could be
  implemented.
  
  
  I am using the VTK reader and will try Sebastien's work around.
  Thanks
  
  so far. This won't cover the numerious wishes for the reload
  button
  
  but alleviate my pain.
  
  
  I am still wondering why Kitware / the ParaView devs do not
  communicate
  
  the reasons better. I know users switching to VisIt only due to
  its
  
  reload button. Please update your statements on uservoice and the
  bug
  
  tracker. Otherwise people might think you don't listen.
  
  
  Thanks for the answers,
  
  Christoph
  
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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-15 Thread vbseb
Greetings !
I was also looking for a way to have a refresh button when reading vtk files.
The plugin given on the page you linked works wonderfully !

Thanks Bruno !

Regards,

Sébastien Le Martelot

- Mail original -
De: "Bruno Santos" 
À: "Christoph Grüninger" , 
paraview@paraview.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Janvier 2014 11:47:14
Objet: Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?


Greetings to all! 

@Christoph: In case you are using the legacy VTK reader, have a look here: 
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-paraview/78129-update-data-paraview.html#post446239
 
A few posts down: 
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-paraview/78129-update-data-paraview.html#post449046
 - is a script for reloading all legacy VTK files. 

Best regards, 
Bruno 

On 14-01-2014 21:09, Christoph Grüninger wrote: 


Hi Scott, 
thanks for your clarification. I wasn't aware of the fact, that 
the reload button has to be written for every reader. 
Now I see that it will be a lot of work to get the reload button. 
On the other hand, reader by reader this feature could be implemented. 

I am using the VTK reader and will try Sebastien's work around. Thanks 
so far. This won't cover the numerious wishes for the reload button 
but alleviate my pain. 

I am still wondering why Kitware / the ParaView devs do not communicate 
the reasons better. I know users switching to VisIt only due to its 
reload button. Please update your statements on uservoice and the bug 
tracker. Otherwise people might think you don't listen. 

Thanks for the answers, 
Christoph 
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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-15 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Christoph,

The issues Alan pointed out are indeed some of the concerns. It's been that
and priorities of the sources that fund ParaView development that we never
got around to investigating this too deeply or coming up with an all
encompassing solution. Maybe we start by picking a small set of readers to
start adding this support to and that could be a good way to attack this.

If we were to come with with such as readers list, what would those be?

Utkarsh


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Christoph Grüninger <
christoph.gruenin...@iws.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> thanks for your clarification. I wasn't aware of the fact, that
> the reload button has to be written for every reader.
> Now I see that it will be a lot of work to get the reload button.
> On the other hand, reader by reader this feature could be implemented.
>
> I am using the VTK reader and will try Sebastien's work around. Thanks
> so far. This won't cover the numerious wishes for the reload button
> but alleviate my pain.
>
> I am still wondering why Kitware / the ParaView devs do not communicate
> the reasons better. I know users switching to VisIt only due to its
> reload button. Please update your statements on uservoice and the bug
> tracker. Otherwise people might think you don't listen.
>
> Thanks for the answers,
> Christoph
>
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Re: [Paraview] Status of reload button?

2014-01-19 Thread Christoph Grüninger
Hi Utkarsh,
as you asked for my opinion: I use the file formats VTU, VTP, and PVD
and would like to see a reload button them. As a first step a reload
button should just reload the currently visible file. As a next step, I
would love to see that for multiple files there number is updated, too.

I would also consider the needs of large user groups like openFOAM users.

Bye
Christoph

Am 15.01.2014 16:39, schrieb Utkarsh Ayachit:
> Christoph,
> 
> The issues Alan pointed out are indeed some of the concerns. It's been
> that and priorities of the sources that fund ParaView development that
> we never got around to investigating this too deeply or coming up with
> an all encompassing solution. Maybe we start by picking a small set of
> readers to start adding this support to and that could be a good way to
> attack this.
> 
> If we were to come with with such as readers list, what would those be?
> 
> Utkarsh
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