What's the Difference ...?

2005-07-16 Thread Andrea Sherry
between N-track Studio and Band-in-a-box or Sonar? Is one program more 
sophisticated than another ie. does it have more features?
It appears that N-Track gets a good rep from users of this list but a very 
average review from people at www.betanews.com.
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registry patch/Re: Total Recorder comments

2005-07-16 Thread Joanne
   Dean or anyone else who might know:  I think I do need that patch 
because Jaws sometimes does seem to get in my recordings.  It could be I'm 
not checking something right in t.r.--not sure--but would like to know how 
to get this patch.  I tried emailing High Criteria once and they sent some 
form letter about filing a bug report, and I wasn't sure exactly what they 
meant since I thought I'd explained the problem in my email.  Is there a 
phone number or some other way to contact them to request this patch?


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Re: registry patch/Re: Total Recorder comments

2005-07-16 Thread Susan Wojtecki

Joanne,
i got it from Dean when i was still running 98 so will send it to you off 
list later today.  i can't comment on whether it makes a difference since am 
now running TR with XP and don't seem to have the same issues as under 98. 
Might be worth a try for you though.


Susan

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   Dean or anyone else who might know:  I think I do need that patch 
because Jaws sometimes does seem to get in my recordings.  It could be I'm 
not checking something right in t.r.--not sure--but would like to know how 
to get this patch.  I tried emailing High Criteria once and they sent some 
form letter about filing a bug report, and I wasn't sure exactly what they 
meant since I thought I'd explained the problem in my email.  Is there a 
phone number or some other way to contact them to request this patch?


Thanks.

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RE: power dvd

2005-07-16 Thread Peter Logue
Hi Scot, using Jaws, all you do is hit the, I think right mouse button and
all the options are spoken.

Peter


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What sample rate should I use to record from a specific source?

2005-07-16 Thread Aman Singer
Hi, all.
This is a very simple question, but either I don't know which
question to ask of google or the information isn't as readily available as
it might be. I currently have a Bell Express VU 3100 receiver (this is the
same hardware as the dish 301 receiver). It has, on its back, the standard
two RCA audio outputs besides an s-video output and a standard RCA video
output. I am recording from the RCA audio outputs to the line-in on my sound
card. I would like to know what sample rate and bit depth to use on the
files. I want the best quality possible, and don't really care about file
size, but if the signal only has a limited amount of information, I don't
want to use disk space for nothing. I'm recording music, not speech.
BTW, on another matter, I notice that this unit has an s-video
output and that my computer has an s-video input. I know I can get better
video using this, but can I get better audio as well, or should I stick to
the RCA connections?
Thanks in advance.
Aman
 


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What bitrate should I use when converting a 22050 16 bit WAV file to MP3

2005-07-16 Thread Aman Singer
Hi, all.
I have a set of 22050 KHZ 16 bit WAV files here which I wish to
convert to MP3. Does anyone know how to decide what bitrate to use for these
files? Like my last question, I'd like to get to the point of diminishing
returns and then stop. Size isn't really an issue for me, but I don't want
to waste space for an inappreciable difference in sound quality. Are there
any particular rules as to what bitrate is good for what sort of sound file?
What I'd really like, if anyone has it, is a web page explaining this or a
phrase I could type into Google or one of the other engines for more
information.
Thanks in advance.
Aman 


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Re: power dvd

2005-07-16 Thread simon.dowling
power dvd is very user friendly simply press the application key and you can 
access all the menus from there.

using hal.
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Peter,

You are correct, it was inter video win dvd. I'm afraid I haven't found 
the program to be very accessible, using jaws. How do you generally access 
functions like navigating menus, switching tracks, accessing different 
features?


Thanks,
Scott



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If you mean Intervideo WinDVD, I have found it to be very friendly with 
Jaws.

I can't see how Power could beat it.
Peter



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Re: Don't understand answers to my Easy CDDA Extractor questions

2005-07-16 Thread Yardbird
Hi again Chris,
Once more, I'd like to explain that my questions do not pertain to CDex or 
to the perfectly legitimate principles you describe adhering to for setting 
rip parameters.  I'm dealing with an interface that does not even present 
any of these variables, such as numerical bit rates.  Have you ever seen 
Easy Cd/DA Extractor?  The terms used and the settings offered on the rip 
settings tab aren't in terms of numerical bit rate or any of the other 
familiar things you mention here.  I understand what you're talking about. 
Totally I do.  But if you would see this program, you'd see that I'd have to 
be more clever than I am to figure out how to associate these terms you're 
discussing with the offerings on that settings menu.

I'm rephrasing my earlier response to you because the last thing I'd like is 
for you to feel I was disrespecting your kind offer of advice.  Again, I 
tried to explain my questions as clearly as possible, and I'm truly sorry if 
I some missed you.  thanks again for the offer of advice about your 
preferred CD ripping settings.  But I went through all this with Kevin when 
I was learning CDex.  It's just that I made the gesture of buying Easy CD/DA 
Extractor because it's a combination program and I thought that it would be 
more accessible to Jaws for me, which it isn't, and thought also that I'd 
get over its odd settings and lack of accurate explanation.  At this point, 
it seems I've misspent my money.

I still hope that Kevin might read my questions that began this thread and 
maybe have something helpful to say.  But he hasn't responded yet, so I 
still have hope.  Yo Kevin! Kevin!  You there?

Thanks again,
Daniel

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Hi Dan

I'm not sure if I can answer all your questions in one go, but when i use
CDEX I usually use Average bitrate encoding. I  usually rip all my cds at
44.1 KHZ 16 bit, at 192kbps, stereo.
Now this isn't a hard and fast rule. You can get a pretty good rip from a
CD without having to know all this complicated stuff, the same way you can
tell time without having to know how the watch was made to tell the time.
In other words what I did was I watched how other people rip their cds and
figured out that the best way to go about it is to find a sound that *you*
like and stick with that.  You do definitely want to rip at 44.1 KHZ 16 bit
stereo for most music.  You can probably get away with a lower bitrate like
64k mono if you're ripping an audio book that contains very little music
and a lot of speech, but generally people rip their cds at an average
bitrate of anywhere between 128k, to 320k, but 320 k is more rare because
the higher the bitrate, the larger the file.  It's all in what you prefer.
In the early days of all this stuff, some players would choke on files that
were encoded using variable bitrates, but now they seem to handle those
files fine.  I just try to  make sure that my files are compadible with all
the players I use.  So really, if you ripped your favorite Stones or Jimmy
Hendrix CD at 192k stereo, you'll get a beautiful sounding rip.
I know that doesn't directly answer all your questions, but like I said
when it comes to this stuff, you have to experiment a bit and find a sound
that you like. It's a subjective thing.






At 10:20 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
>This post is directed especially to Kevin, Clifford and Bruce, whose 
>earlier
>explanations about CD ripping and burning programs I've found very clear 
>and
>helpful.
>
>I submitted these questions to the developer of Easy CDDA Extractor only
>after reading carefully through the program's documentation, which, though
>clearly written as far as it goes, didn't discuss or even mention any of 
>the
>details about bit rate and encoding method about which I'd learned so much
>when I was learning how to set CDex up with Kevin's help.
>
>this is not related to my inability to locate and identify various 
>controls,
>and even some options lists, in the program due to Jaws not seeing many
>elements of the interface.  In this case, at least so far as I'm aware, I 
>am
>able to find and make adjustments to all of these groups of settings.  The
>problem is, as you'll see, that I don't know what they are, for the most
>part, and my previous CDex experience doesn't seem to apply, and the
>developer's responses to my questions have left me more at sea than I was
>before I asked them.
>
>I'll paste in each of my questions and his answers, then type my comment
>explaining what it is I don't understand about his answer.  Please bear in
>mind that I asked these questions as responsibly as I could, using all the
>knowledge I'd gotten from going through the CDex mini-course with Kevin. 
>My
>suspicion here is that he has left a lot unsaid, and isn't aware of that.
>As I said, he gives no 

Re: What sample rate should I use to record from a specific source?

2005-07-16 Thread Bruce Toews
Many of the ExpressVu units have a digital dolby out. I've no idea how to 
use it.


Bruce

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Aman Singer wrote:


Hi, all.
This is a very simple question, but either I don't know which
question to ask of google or the information isn't as readily available as
it might be. I currently have a Bell Express VU 3100 receiver (this is the
same hardware as the dish 301 receiver). It has, on its back, the standard
two RCA audio outputs besides an s-video output and a standard RCA video
output. I am recording from the RCA audio outputs to the line-in on my sound
card. I would like to know what sample rate and bit depth to use on the
files. I want the best quality possible, and don't really care about file
size, but if the signal only has a limited amount of information, I don't
want to use disk space for nothing. I'm recording music, not speech.
BTW, on another matter, I notice that this unit has an s-video
output and that my computer has an s-video input. I know I can get better
video using this, but can I get better audio as well, or should I stick to
the RCA connections?
Thanks in advance.
Aman



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Re: What sample rate should I use to record from a specific source?

2005-07-16 Thread Jay Williams
Hi, Aman,
That gadjet's probably delivering good audio, so I'd use 44.1khz/16-bit to
record it. I can't speak for others's ears, but mine wouldn't notice any
improvement from higher sampling and bit rates.
As to making mp3s from your 22.5khz files, if they are mainly speech, I'd
get by with 56k bit, but if music is involved, I'd go for something like
112k bit, just to make sure you're not getting audio artifacts that you'll
be sorry about.
Jay

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> Hi, all.
> This is a very simple question, but either I don't know which
> question to ask of google or the information isn't as readily available as
> it might be. I currently have a Bell Express VU 3100 receiver (this is the
> same hardware as the dish 301 receiver). It has, on its back, the standard
> two RCA audio outputs besides an s-video output and a standard RCA video
> output. I am recording from the RCA audio outputs to the line-in on my
sound
> card. I would like to know what sample rate and bit depth to use on the
> files. I want the best quality possible, and don't really care about file
> size, but if the signal only has a limited amount of information, I don't
> want to use disk space for nothing. I'm recording music, not speech.
> BTW, on another matter, I notice that this unit has an s-video
> output and that my computer has an s-video input. I know I can get better
> video using this, but can I get better audio as well, or should I stick to
> the RCA connections?
> Thanks in advance.
> Aman
>
>
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Re: What bitrate should I use when converting a 22050 16 bit WAV fileto MP3

2005-07-16 Thread Gary Wood

Hi there.  128 KBPS would be fine for you.
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MP3




Hi, all.
I have a set of 22050 KHZ 16 bit WAV files here which I wish to
convert to MP3. Does anyone know how to decide what bitrate to use for 
these

files? Like my last question, I'd like to get to the point of diminishing
returns and then stop. Size isn't really an issue for me, but I don't want
to waste space for an inappreciable difference in sound quality. Are there
any particular rules as to what bitrate is good for what sort of sound 
file?

What I'd really like, if anyone has it, is a web page explaining this or a
phrase I could type into Google or one of the other engines for more
information.
Thanks in advance.
Aman


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Re: Don't understand answers to my Easy CDDA Extractor questions

2005-07-16 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Daniel.

I don't use this program so can't really tell you a lot about it.  The
principles of ripping are though of course universal independant of how much
you decide to pay for an interface to a standard encoder or decoder.

There is an element of variation in average bit rate conversion which I have
not mentioned previously to keep explanations as simple as possible.  It is
true that you choose an average for the music you're encoding but the
encoder will add some bits where necessary and take some away where it can.
So, think of average bit rate as setting a rate that fluctuates very gently
from your chosen path.

True variable bit rate is by far superior to average bit rates though as
it's objective is completely different.  The objective of variable bit rate
is to keep the quality constant so it will decide how many bits per frame of
music are required to keep that quality constant.

I agree with Chris' earlier e-mail that said you will find settings that you
feel meet your specific objectives on quality and file size and I've arrived
at the settings I use myself after a year or two of experimentation and
reading up.

Check out this website for more information
http://www.mp3-converter.com/bitrates.htm
and do some googling.

I can understand your thirst for clear and accurate documentation but you'll
probably know that developers are not the greatest when it comes to
documenting what they've produced.

Regards.
Kevin
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This post is directed especially to Kevin, Clifford and Bruce, whose earlier
explanations about CD ripping and burning programs I've found very clear and
helpful.

I submitted these questions to the developer of Easy CDDA Extractor only
after reading carefully through the program's documentation, which, though
clearly written as far as it goes, didn't discuss or even mention any of the
details about bit rate and encoding method about which I'd learned so much
when I was learning how to set CDex up with Kevin's help.

this is not related to my inability to locate and identify various controls,
and even some options lists, in the program due to Jaws not seeing many
elements of the interface.  In this case, at least so far as I'm aware, I am
able to find and make adjustments to all of these groups of settings.  The
problem is, as you'll see, that I don't know what they are, for the most
part, and my previous CDex experience doesn't seem to apply, and the
developer's responses to my questions have left me more at sea than I was
before I asked them.

I'll paste in each of my questions and his answers, then type my comment
explaining what it is I don't understand about his answer.  Please bear in
mind that I asked these questions as responsibly as I could, using all the
knowledge I'd gotten from going through the CDex mini-course with Kevin.  My
suspicion here is that he has left a lot unsaid, and isn't aware of that.
As I said, he gives no background in his documentation, even in the section
about bit rates and so forth.  And at least once, I think he's maybe
explaining something (Average Bit Rate encoding) in a way that is counter to
what I thought I'd learned, and where his labeling in the options
contradicts the definitions I thought I learned from CDex.

Thanks very much for your interest and help.
The exchange went like this.  My questions comes first, then his responses:
>> You define ABR (average bit rate) as "variable bit rate,"

ABR uses Variable Bit rate Encoding.

-- what I thought I'd just learned when being taken through CDex was that
ABR is Average Bit Rate encoding, wherein the program analyzes the
complexity of digitized sound information in a CD track being ripped and
then encodes its file, such as an .mp3 file, using a steady bit rate that
represents the average bit rate that averages out the potential range from
highest to lowest that could be applied to that track.  The resulting bit
rate will be steady, but not in the predetermined way a constant bit rate
would have been, irrespective of the material being encoded.

One thing CDex, Kevin et al have emphasized unequivocally, it will
definitely *not* be variable.  Average is the opposite of variable.  Or so I
thought I'd learned.  So his explanation makes no sense to me and leaves me
shaking my head in bewilderment.

Next exchange:
>> With ABR, what is the average bit rate set to?

You can use any of the predefined bit rate settings (150, 175, 200, 225,
250)
or you can set the bit rate from the Config button.

-- What?  I saw nothing in the documentation instructing the user in this
manner, did not encounter a configuration button, and don't know where the
first selection of  bit rates is that he mentions.  Perhaps he's referring
to some list in the burn tab or options menu that goes by some name other
than