Easy CD DA Extractor Version 9.1.1 Build 4 is Available

2006-05-28 Thread Steve Pattison
Easy CD DA Extractor version 9.1.1 build 4 is now available from 
www.poikosoft.com.  Here are the changes in this version:

Workaround:
Fixed the problem where Easy CD-DA Extractor would disappear or crash 
with Access
Violation message. The problem was caused by the driver software installed by
'DVD Region+CSS Free',
  'DVDFab Platinum'
, and 'DVDIdle'
. (these programs install a filter driver that handles the MMC 
command 'Read TOC'
wrong and accesses wrong memory locations)


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Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-28 Thread Bruce Toews
How do you determine that they don't move?

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On Fri, 26 May 2006, HF wrote:

> I do, but they don't move.
> HF
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> use control + left shift keys with the left and right cursor keys to move
>> the finish marker.
>>
>> Rick
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>>
>>
>> Hi Ron
>> They don't move at all for me. They stay in the same place. I could move
>> the
>> start markerwithout a problem, but not the end marker.
>>
>> HF
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ron Winstanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>>
>>
>>> Hello
>>> I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers,
>>> but
>>> holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right
>>> cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key
>>> will place the marker at the current position in the file.
>>> Ron
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: HF
>>>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>>>  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
>>>  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker
>>>
>>>
>>>  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can
>>>  though, move the start marker without a problem.
>>>  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?
>>>
>>>  HF
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Re: headphones with sound card

2006-05-28 Thread Bobcat
I'm hoping we can do this with various adaptors.  I just hope the monitor 
output from the card has a high enough signal to drive headphones properly.
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: headphones with sound card


> Can he attach a y connector that would plug into the analog output line 
> and
> have two female connectors that would accommodate the headphones and
> whatever else might be desired?  You can do a work around with various
> connectors.
> Lois Goodine.
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Re: Soundforge Tutorial Availability

2006-05-28 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi!
I was really stressed last night, so I'm sorry if I spazed. I actually have 
a copy that I got for free too, and I'll gladly share it with you.
Allison

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Soundforge Tutorial Availability


> Hello Allison!
>
> My asking for the availability of the Soundforge tutorial was not to get 
> it free.  If you remember, I asked about its availability from the FS web 
> site.  Of course, I would be grateful to anyone who could provide me with 
> a free copy of it.  If it is no longer being sold by its rightful owner, 
> then the owner probably would not mind if it is shared by someone who 
> actually owns one.  I would never try to hoodwink my buddy Jonathan out of 
> commission.
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Soundforge Tutorial Availability

2006-05-28 Thread Jardata Mail Services
Hello Allison!

My asking for the availability of the Soundforge tutorial was not to get it 
free.  If you remember, I asked about its availability from the FS web site.  
Of course, I would be grateful to anyone who could provide me with a free copy 
of it.  If it is no longer being sold by its rightful owner, then the owner 
probably would not mind if it is shared by someone who actually owns one.  I 
would never try to hoodwink my buddy Jonathan out of  commission.  

James Robinson
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Kelly Sapergia
Hi,
I installed the latest version of WinAmp. It does support M4A files, 
but I couldn't get the file I got from the podcast to play. Guess it must 
be a Mac-oriented podcast. Oh well, at least I tried.
Thanks.


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Re: Can not move start mrker backwords.

2006-05-28 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

Yes use shift and the right arrow to move the start marker backwards.

Rick


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From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Can not move start mrker backwords.


HellO!
I tries to move my start marker backwards abit but it seems to not work.
Shall i use shift and the left arrow or was it only the left arrow?
I cant remember.
/Anders.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Or because it was a form of square wave which cannot be handled by noise 
reduction.

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From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Hi,
>
> The under water sound you here is because you set the level of noise
> reduction at too high a level.
>
> Rick
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> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
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>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
> You need more of a sample than that.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
>> sort
>> of adds an under water  sound to things.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
>>>lousy
>>> job when you use noise from the clipboard.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
 feel
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
 with
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
 as
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
 program
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
 things
 : >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : >compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
 needs
 are
 : >the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
 person
 : >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in 
 a
 price
 : >range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
 Goldwave
 : >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
 with
 : >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : >
 : >
 : >
 : > - Original Message - 
 : > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >
 : >
 : > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 : > much
 : > : finer do you want than that?
 : > :
 : > : Bruce
 : > :
 : > : -- 
 : > : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, 
 he
 : > : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 : > :
 : > : Bruce Toews
 : > : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : > : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : > : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : > : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 : > :
 : > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 : > :
 : > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 : > or
 : > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities 
 at
 any
 : > price.
 : > : >
 : > : > - Original Message -
 : > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:

Re: headphones with sound card

2006-05-28 Thread Lois Goodine
Can he attach a y connector that would plug into the analog output line and
have two female connectors that would accommodate the headphones and
whatever else might be desired?  You can do a work around with various
connectors.
Lois Goodine.


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headphones with sound card

2006-05-28 Thread Bobcat
A friend just got a new computer with aan M-Audio Audiophile sound card.  It 
has no headphone jack.  How can he hook up his phones?  The analog outputs 
of the card are on a breakout cable and ar all quarter inch mono. 


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Can not move start mrker backwords.

2006-05-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
I tries to move my start marker backwards abit but it seems to not work.
Shall i use shift and the left arrow or was it only the left arrow?
I cant remember.
/Anders.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

The under water sound you here is because you set the level of noise 
reduction at too high a level.

Rick


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From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
You need more of a sample than that.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
> sort
> of adds an under water  sound to things.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
>>lousy
>> job when you use noise from the clipboard.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
>>> feel
>>> that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
>>> with
>>> SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
>>> And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
>>> as
>>> the noise reduction in SoundForge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
>>> :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
>>> program
>>> is
>>> : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>> :
>>> : - Original Message - 
>>> : From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>>> things
>>> : >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>> : >compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
>>> needs
>>> are
>>> : >the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
>>> person
>>> : >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>>> price
>>> : >range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>>> Goldwave
>>> : >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
>>> with
>>> : >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : > - Original Message - 
>>> : > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
>>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
>>> How
>>> : > much
>>> : > : finer do you want than that?
>>> : > :
>>> : > : Bruce
>>> : > :
>>> : > : -- 
>>> : > : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> : > : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>> : > :
>>> : > : Bruce Toews
>>> : > : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> : > : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> : > : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> : > : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> : > :
>>> : > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
>>> : > :
>>> : > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
>>> precise
>>> : > or
>>> : > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
>>> any
>>> : > price.
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : > - Original Message -
>>> : > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
>>> : > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
>>> have
>>> : > to
>>> : > : >> take
>>> : > : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
>>> editor!
>>> : > What
>>> : > : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
>>> what
>>> : > you
>>> : > : >> can
>>> : > : >> afford!
>>> : > : >> - Original Message

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want. 
You need more of a sample than that.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it 
> sort
> of adds an under water  sound to things.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a 
>>lousy
>> job when you use noise from the clipboard.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
>>> feel
>>> that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can 
>>> with
>>> SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
>>> And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good 
>>> as
>>> the noise reduction in SoundForge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
>>> :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
>>> program
>>> is
>>> : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>> :
>>> : - Original Message - 
>>> : From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>>> things
>>> : >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>> : >compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my 
>>> needs
>>> are
>>> : >the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
>>> person
>>> : >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>>> price
>>> : >range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>>> Goldwave
>>> : >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
>>> with
>>> : >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : > - Original Message - 
>>> : > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
>>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
>>> How
>>> : > much
>>> : > : finer do you want than that?
>>> : > :
>>> : > : Bruce
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>>> : > : Bruce Toews
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>>> : > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
>>> : > :
>>> : > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
>>> precise
>>> : > or
>>> : > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
>>> any
>>> : > price.
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : > - Original Message -
>>> : > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
>>> : > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : >
>>> : > : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
>>> have
>>> : > to
>>> : > : >> take
>>> : > : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
>>> editor!
>>> : > What
>>> : > : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
>>> what
>>> : > you
>>> : > : >> can
>>> : > : >> afford!
>>> : > : >> - Original Message -
>>> : > : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
>>> : > : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : > : >>
>>> : > : >>
>>> : > : >>> HI,
>>> : > : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
>>> : > : >>>
>>> : > : >>> Best regards
>>> : > : >>> Brian
>>> : > : >>> - Original Message -
>>> : > : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
>>> : > : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : > : >>>
>>> : > : 

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
If I understand what you mean, you don't need it in 6, either.  However, you 
do have to set cue to on.

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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Brent Harding
I say Jack is better taken to the web or sat radio where people would want 
nothing but music and a few messages. Music choice is OK, but that's TV 
audio that isn't that great, really.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


>I have worked in the broadcast industry for over thirty years and have
> always maintained that live and local is the best. Although we often like 
> to
> go abroad and explore and want to find out what is going on around the 
> world
> we usually come back home to explore our local roots looking for 
> information
> in regards to what is going on in our home community.
> Is there a baseball tournament taking place tonight at our local community
> baseball field?
> Is it going to rain today? What is in the long-range forecast for the next
> three days?
> The thing here is that live and local programming costs money, and the big
> boys of broadcasting are, for the most part not willing to fork out the
> bucks to pay for this talent. They want the easy way out, and that is 
> simply
> by playing gobs of music. I am not against music, but feel that a healthy
> balance of local and relevant information and a good blend of music has to
> be reached. Radio has personality, and we should strive to get that point
> across to our listeners. What annoys me the most are those classic lines,
> such as: "just around the corner we are going to hear from the Beatles."
> Exactly what do they mean by saying just around the corner? You hear these
> lines on just about every station. This tells me that stations are copping
> one another in order to get audience share. The Jack format is yet another
> bug a boo with me as well. I am afraid that the Jack format has warn out
> it's welcome. You can only use those canned messages for so long and the
> audience gets tired of them, and will simply move on to another radio
> station that has intelligent programming.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:41 AM
> Subject: RE: broadcasting question
>
>
>>I have both satellite services.
>> I believe you can have 300 stations and unless you are relevant know one
>> will care for very long.
>>
>> Most stations are music services and hear lies the problem.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:40 AM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>> I think that before the end of the year I will be going that way as well.
>> Do
>>
>> not like terrestrial radio.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> That's one reason I stick with my XMPCR device. Not portable, but with 
>>> an
>>> FM
>>> transmitter I can hear it around the house. I do like being able to read
>>> the
>>> text of all the channels.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
I don't think that it will be too long before a talking receiver will be
 available. To me it would be nothing more than converting the text
 information on the screen to speech.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> That's the thing I hate about XM is not knowing what that song was 
> they
> just
> played on a channel I like.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> The problem with DAB is that nobody can agree to a Northamerican
>> standard.
>> We all know what happened to AM stereo. The consumer will ultimately
>> determine whether DAB is going to take off or not. I honestly can't
>> see
>> people  running out to buy new receivers. What you will see is that
>> there
>> will be a move to the FM band  with all stations gradually converting
>> over
>> to DAB. There will be no need for announcers on a fulltime bases, as
>> song
>> title, artist, and other information will be displayed on a screen in
>> much
>> the same format as is being used with XM and Sirious. I can see
>> commercial
>> content going this way as well, as many of us see commercials as an
>> intrusion as apposed to providing a service Talk radio will survive,
>> but
>>

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Brent Harding
Well, the audio quality of XM needs to increase to compete as that is part 
of what we're paying for. The other part is the commercial free nature of it 
but I heard an office depot commercial on channel 22 the other day. I sort 
of expected this because it is one of the Clear Channel-provided stations on 
XM. It was literally music, a jingle, and a single commercial before normal 
programming came back. That isn't real bad but CC probably just hasn't built 
up enough spots for 5 minutes of ads yet.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


> The bullet for FM is multi-channel. When Fm can have two to eight stations
> on one frequency and it is free, XM and friends will not be such a great
> idea.
>
> The radios are coming down, you will be able to get one for 75 buks in the
> next year.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:38 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
> That is to say if we can get everyone on the same page, and workout a
> standard that will make everyone happy.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> In my opinion fm iboc will do well as receiver prices come down and
>> multi-channel capability comes to pass.  I think you hit the nail on the
>> head regarding am iboc.  In the future things may get better on the am
>> front
>> when the hybrid am iboc will be replaced by full digital.  I think the
>> total
>> digital conversion will take ten or more years.
>>
>>
>> Dave Marthouse
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> The question though, is whey stations are doing it who are analog and
>>> have
>>> no plans for IBOC in the near future. From what most engineers tell me
>>> who
>>> don't work for CC or NPR, AM IBOC is a real bad deal for AM audio and 
>>> the
>>> IBOC audio sounds like a bad Windows Media feed, but there has been too
>> much
>>> money invested by NPR and Clear Channel to turn back now.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>> > The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response
>>> > to
>>> > 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal.  IBOC is in band on channel
>>> > digital audio broadcasting.  The current hybrid form of IBOC being 
>>> > used
>> in
>>> > the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dave Marthouse
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message - 
>>> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio
>> response
>>> >> necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
>>> >> - Original Message - 
>>> >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with,
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The
>>> > thinking
>>> >> > here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the
>>> >> > other
>>> >> > adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a  different 
>>> >> > story.
>>> >> > Audio processing can now be done remotely from the desktop, and can
>> be
>>> >> > adjusted to fit a number of different formats.
>>> >> > - Original Message - 
>>> >> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:33 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ
>> audio
>>> > and
>>> >> >> he
>>> >> >> runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> - Original Message - 
>>> >> >> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but 
>>> >> >>> it
>>> >> >>> has
>>> > a
>>>

Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Brent Harding
Is it true though that Winamp 5.x won't do stuff that 2.x did? I know 
someone told me not to upgrade because of a whole bunch of DRM stuff that 
makes it so you can't play or do certain things that are possible in 2.x. 
Exactly what that is I'm not sure.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sun Sparkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: M4A Files


> kelly
> the latest version ofwinamp, doesn't seem to have those problems,  in a 
> way
> winamp has grown, in its feature list, and the things it can do. theonly,
> thing i wish is that the library support would be back. like it was, in 
> the
> eariler versions of the program.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kelly Sapergia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>Thanks for the suggestion. While I don't mind upgrading to a newer
>> version of the program, I was experiencing playlist problems when using
>> version 5.08 and 5.09 while broadcasting. I suspect the problem had
>> something to do with the Extended Jump to File plugin, but I'm not taking
>> any chances.
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread michael Babcock
i know!
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Three thousand songs are nothing! The average MP3 player holds about 6000
> songs and the songs have no anoying commercials in between.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "michael Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> the local radio station said they have a max of 3000 songs at a time, i
>> told
>> him i have more songs that always!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time,
>>> but
>>> I
>>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it is
>>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and sunny
>>> you
>>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good
>>> programming
>>> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my ipod
>>> than most stations have on their play list.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then
 they
 have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks
 on.
 When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order
> to
> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that 
> bought
> the
> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
> indefinitely.
> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make
> good
> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has
> to
> be
> a human element to overlook things. .
> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
> licence
> is like having a licence to print money."
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers
>> these
>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that
>> more
>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the
>> world!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station
>>> including
>>> the
>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive
>>> equipment
>>> nor
>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>>> workplace
>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>>> workplace
>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio 
>>> with
>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make
>>> sure
>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could
>>> be
>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news
>>> feeds,
>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the 
>>> reading
>>> of
>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what
>>> radio
>>> is
>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and
>>> talk
>>> to
>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the 
>>> right
>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not
>>> for
>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers
>>> will
>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Bob Seed
Sounds interesting. Will have to give it a listen on a good clear night.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> That 5khz audio business is all to pervasive.  Most of the New York
> City stations--certainly all the ones offering the digital sideband
> thing--are using it, and their audio sounds like old 1960's bad tapes.
>
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Bob Seed
People want something for nothing, and commercial radio is the only thing 
that one doesn't have to pay for these days. As long as commercial radio can 
come up with the goods loyal listeners will remain committed. Change the 
rules of the game and they will simply move on. Putting a multitude of 
stations on one frequency isn't going to solve the problem.
It is my feeling that listeners want to become more involved in programming. 
This can be achieved in a number of ways. For an example becoming a program 
host for a day. Obviously the host would have to have some skills in this 
area of expertise. A talent search could be conducted in much the same way 
that we search out good talent on American idle. When tuning in a particular 
station I for one will take the path of least resistance. If the station is 
at the end of the dial and has good programming I will probably gravitate to 
that station. When I worked in AM radio and AM radio was the only game in 
town we were fortunate to be smack dab in the middle of the dial. We had two 
other bookend stations on both sides of us. If the listeners did not like 
their programming they would simply change their dial to us and leave it 
there and never change it again. It is for this reason that we were a solid 
number one with 84% of the local audience. Another plus for us is that we 
were on the same frequency as the big eight in Windsor, Ontario. That in 
itself speaks for itself. Radio is so fragmented to day that you would be 
hard pressed to get even 20% in a major market. A tough sell for anyone 
trying to sell radio advertising to a potential client.

. - Original Message - 
From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


> The bullet for FM is multi-channel. When Fm can have two to eight stations
> on one frequency and it is free, XM and friends will not be such a great
> idea.
>
> The radios are coming down, you will be able to get one for 75 buks in the
> next year.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:38 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
> That is to say if we can get everyone on the same page, and workout a
> standard that will make everyone happy.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> In my opinion fm iboc will do well as receiver prices come down and
>> multi-channel capability comes to pass.  I think you hit the nail on the
>> head regarding am iboc.  In the future things may get better on the am
>> front
>> when the hybrid am iboc will be replaced by full digital.  I think the
>> total
>> digital conversion will take ten or more years.
>>
>>
>> Dave Marthouse
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> The question though, is whey stations are doing it who are analog and
>>> have
>>> no plans for IBOC in the near future. From what most engineers tell me
>>> who
>>> don't work for CC or NPR, AM IBOC is a real bad deal for AM audio and 
>>> the
>>> IBOC audio sounds like a bad Windows Media feed, but there has been too
>> much
>>> money invested by NPR and Clear Channel to turn back now.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>> > The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response
>>> > to
>>> > 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal.  IBOC is in band on channel
>>> > digital audio broadcasting.  The current hybrid form of IBOC being 
>>> > used
>> in
>>> > the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dave Marthouse
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message - 
>>> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio
>> response
>>> >> necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
>>> >> - Original Message - 
>>> >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with,
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The

RE: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Tate Luck
Chuck,

You can email me off  list.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


ware are you  located?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chuck Adkins
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:54 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: broadcasting question

I would be glad to help. I'd also like to get in touch with Tate Luck.

Chuck
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From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


>I agree. I am in the Columvus market ( 38.)
>
> I have been in the business for 26 years.
>
> I program three stations.
>
>
> You can make it in radio, but keep in mind  you have to pay your dues. By
> working the crap jobs first.
>
> I am willing to help to.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:27 AM
> To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
> Subject: RE: broadcasting question
>
> I'm in the Providence market, which is like 35.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnnie J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:21 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
> Are you in a small market and where would one go to find the jobs in a
> smaller mark, if that is where you are?
> If you are in a market of 30, or higher please let me know.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:05 PM
> Subject: RE: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Brandon,
>> That's bunch of crap.
>> I'm totally blind and have been in the industry for 15 years. They
>> have a lot of growing up to do Hit me back, and we can talk about it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gary Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:00 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>> This doesn't sound like they were maybe being totally fair with you!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> hi list,
>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are
>>> people out
>>> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a
>> course
>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a
>> blind
>>> person attending.
>>>
>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
>>> Unfortunately this
>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly
>> because
>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
>> exceed
>>> over
>>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
>> corporate
>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to
>> create a
>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however,
>>> wanted to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I
>>> truly wish
>> you
>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you
>> require
>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once
>> again,
>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jacquie Hammond
>>> President/CSMB
>>>
>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able
>>> to, as
>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing
> boards,
>> and
>>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a
>>> simple matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has
>>> anyone got
>> any
>>> clues?
>>> thanks
>>> Brandon Hicks
>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Sun Sparkle
actually, nero, prefected the file format.
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:59 AM
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> But I thought I'd seen them before ITunes existed. Perhaps not.
> Allison
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>
>
>> m4a is, to the best of my knoledge a outcropping of the format  apple 
>> uses
>> f
>> for itunes
>>
>> tj
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Allison Mervis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>>
>>
>>> Nope. m4a is a stand alone file type, and not associated with ipods to
>>> the
>>> best of my knowledge.
>>> Allison
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>>>
>>>
I wonder if these aren't aac files? I think they have to do with Ipods. 
I
 heard one can rename them .mp4 and play but I don't know if that format
 was
 out in Winamp 2.90, maybe 2.97 may be better.

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> Hi,
>I subscribed to a new podcast today, but the files it downloads
> havve
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> play
> this type of file by default, but I thought I heard that later 
> versions
> can
> play it. However, I'm reluctant to upgrade to a later version, because
> 2.90
> is working fine for me. I tried converting the M4A file to an MP3 with
> the
> trial version of Easy CDDA Extractor, but it gave me an error about
> decoding the file or something. Does anyone know if there's a plugin
> for
> WinAmp 2.90 that can play this type of file, or should I upgrade to a
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>
>
> Yours Sincerely,
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Bob Seed
Three thousand songs are nothing! The average MP3 player holds about 6000 
songs and the songs have no anoying commercials in between.
- Original Message - 
From: "michael Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> the local radio station said they have a max of 3000 songs at a time, i 
> told
> him i have more songs that always!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time, 
>> but
>> I
>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it is
>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and sunny
>> you
>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good
>> programming
>> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my ipod
>> than most stations have on their play list.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then
>>> they
>>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks
>>> on.
>>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
 completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order 
 to
 save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
 popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that bought
 the
 rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
 automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
 indefinitely.
 Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make
 good
 radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has 
 to
 be
 a human element to overlook things. .
 I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
 licence
 is like having a licence to print money."

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers
> these
> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that 
> more
> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the 
> world!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station
>> including
>> the
>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive 
>> equipment
>> nor
>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>> workplace
>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>> workplace
>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make
>> sure
>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could 
>> be
>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news
>> feeds,
>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading
>> of
>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what
>> radio
>> is
>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and
>> talk
>> to
>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not 
>> for
>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers
>> will
>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of
>> these
>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
>> equipment
>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input
>> control
>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette 
>> players.
>> This
>> in my opinion 

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Bob Seed
I have worked in the broadcast industry for over thirty years and have 
always maintained that live and local is the best. Although we often like to 
go abroad and explore and want to find out what is going on around the world 
we usually come back home to explore our local roots looking for information 
in regards to what is going on in our home community.
Is there a baseball tournament taking place tonight at our local community 
baseball field?
Is it going to rain today? What is in the long-range forecast for the next 
three days?
The thing here is that live and local programming costs money, and the big 
boys of broadcasting are, for the most part not willing to fork out the 
bucks to pay for this talent. They want the easy way out, and that is simply 
by playing gobs of music. I am not against music, but feel that a healthy 
balance of local and relevant information and a good blend of music has to 
be reached. Radio has personality, and we should strive to get that point 
across to our listeners. What annoys me the most are those classic lines, 
such as: "just around the corner we are going to hear from the Beatles." 
Exactly what do they mean by saying just around the corner? You hear these 
lines on just about every station. This tells me that stations are copping 
one another in order to get audience share. The Jack format is yet another 
bug a boo with me as well. I am afraid that the Jack format has warn out 
it's welcome. You can only use those canned messages for so long and the 
audience gets tired of them, and will simply move on to another radio 
station that has intelligent programming.


 - Original Message - 
From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


>I have both satellite services.
> I believe you can have 300 stations and unless you are relevant know one
> will care for very long.
>
> Most stations are music services and hear lies the problem.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:40 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
> I think that before the end of the year I will be going that way as well. 
> Do
>
> not like terrestrial radio.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> That's one reason I stick with my XMPCR device. Not portable, but with an
>> FM
>> transmitter I can hear it around the house. I do like being able to read
>> the
>> text of all the channels.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>>I don't think that it will be too long before a talking receiver will be
>>> available. To me it would be nothing more than converting the text
>>> information on the screen to speech.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 That's the thing I hate about XM is not knowing what that song was they
 just
 played on a channel I like.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> The problem with DAB is that nobody can agree to a Northamerican
> standard.
> We all know what happened to AM stereo. The consumer will ultimately
> determine whether DAB is going to take off or not. I honestly can't 
> see
> people  running out to buy new receivers. What you will see is that
> there
> will be a move to the FM band  with all stations gradually converting
> over
> to DAB. There will be no need for announcers on a fulltime bases, as
> song
> title, artist, and other information will be displayed on a screen in
> much
> the same format as is being used with XM and Sirious. I can see
> commercial
> content going this way as well, as many of us see commercials as an
> intrusion as apposed to providing a service Talk radio will survive,
> but
> the
> future of commercial music stations looks bleak. The shift is towards
> downloading of MP3 files, and blog newscasts. With digital 
> broadcasting
> it
> will be possible for you to customize the delivery of information
> according
> to your needs. If you want to hear the 8:00 AM news at 8:15 that will
> be
> possible simply by entering an assigned code on a keypad. You will
> probably
> have a choice on who will deliver the news to your receiver. T

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread michael Babcock
and guess what, i guess none of this will be accessable
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> The problem with DAB is that nobody can agree to a Northamerican standard.
> We all know what happened to AM stereo. The consumer will ultimately
> determine whether DAB is going to take off or not. I honestly can't see
> people  running out to buy new receivers. What you will see is that there
> will be a move to the FM band  with all stations gradually converting over
> to DAB. There will be no need for announcers on a fulltime bases, as song
> title, artist, and other information will be displayed on a screen in much
> the same format as is being used with XM and Sirious. I can see commercial
> content going this way as well, as many of us see commercials as an
> intrusion as apposed to providing a service Talk radio will survive, but 
> the
> future of commercial music stations looks bleak. The shift is towards
> downloading of MP3 files, and blog newscasts. With digital broadcasting it
> will be possible for you to customize the delivery of information 
> according
> to your needs. If you want to hear the 8:00 AM news at 8:15 that will be
> possible simply by entering an assigned code on a keypad. You will 
> probably
> have a choice on who will deliver the news to your receiver. The
> possibilities are limitless. Another plus is that you will be able to 
> listen
> to NPR from coast to coast without missing a beat. You will simply move 
> from
> one cell to another, and the radio will do that for you automatically.
> .
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response to
>> 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal.  IBOC is in band on channel
>> digital audio broadcasting.  The current hybrid form of IBOC being used 
>> in
>> the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
>>
>>
>> Dave Marthouse
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio response
>>> necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>> > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with, and
>>> > it
>>> > is
>>> > certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The
>> thinking
>>> > here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the
>>> > other
>>> > adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a  different story.
>>> > Audio processing can now be done remotely from the desktop, and can be
>>> > adjusted to fit a number of different formats.
>>> > - Original Message - 
>>> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:33 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ audio
>> and
>>> >> he
>>> >> runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message - 
>>> >> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it
>>> >>> has
>> a
>>> >>> different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth 
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a
>>> >>> lot
>>> >>> of
>>> >>> difference, in theory.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> - Original Message - 
>>> >>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>  Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed
>>>  that
>> a
>>>  station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz 
>>>  audio.
>>>  The
>>>  transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ which
>>>  is
>>>  what
>>>  their analog signal gives you when they are using IBOC. Engineers
>> tell
>>>  me
>>>  that they are going to that because everyone else is and they say
>> "it's
>>>  good
>>>  enough." There is no hearing advantage to the 5KHZ audio, just tech
>>>  

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread michael Babcock
the local radio station said they have a max of 3000 songs at a time, i told 
him i have more songs that always!
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time, but 
> I
> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it is
> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and sunny 
> you
> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good 
> programming
> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my ipod
> than most stations have on their play list.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then 
>> they
>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks 
>> on.
>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
>>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order to
>>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
>>> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that bought
>>> the
>>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
>>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
>>> indefinitely.
>>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make
>>> good
>>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has to
>>> be
>>> a human element to overlook things. .
>>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
>>> licence
>>> is like having a licence to print money."
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers
 these
 days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that more
 people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the world!
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station 
> including
> the
> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment
> nor
> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
> workplace
> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
> workplace
> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make
> sure
> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could be
> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news
> feeds,
> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading
> of
> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what
> radio
> is
> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and
> talk
> to
> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not for
> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers
> will
> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of
> these
> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
> equipment
> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input
> control
> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette players.
> This
> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio
> station
> or
> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio is
> yet
> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of 
> the
> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced five
> to
> ten
> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do
> yo

Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Allison Mervis
But I thought I'd seen them before ITunes existed. Perhaps not.
Allison

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> m4a is, to the best of my knoledge a outcropping of the format  apple uses 
> f
> for itunes
>
> tj
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Allison Mervis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>
>
>> Nope. m4a is a stand alone file type, and not associated with ipods to 
>> the
>> best of my knowledge.
>> Allison
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>>
>>
>>>I wonder if these aren't aac files? I think they have to do with Ipods. I
>>> heard one can rename them .mp4 and play but I don't know if that format
>>> was
>>> out in Winamp 2.90, maybe 2.97 may be better.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Kelly Sapergia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:54 PM
>>> Subject: M4A Files
>>>
>>>
 Hi,
I subscribed to a new podcast today, but the files it downloads 
 havve
 the extension .m4a. I'm using version 2.90 of WinAmp, which doesn't 
 play
 this type of file by default, but I thought I heard that later versions
 can
 play it. However, I'm reluctant to upgrade to a later version, because
 2.90
 is working fine for me. I tried converting the M4A file to an MP3 with
 the
 trial version of Easy CDDA Extractor, but it gave me an error about
 decoding the file or something. Does anyone know if there's a plugin 
 for
 WinAmp 2.90 that can play this type of file, or should I upgrade to a
 later
 version?
Thanks.


 Yours Sincerely,
 Kelly John Sapergia
 For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global
 Fusion music, listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 
 03:00
 GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the 
 Blind)
 Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org
 Visit the show's web site at
 http://www.ksapergia.net/northernlights.html
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Brandon Hicks
hi,
i checked my EZ CDDA extractor. m4a and mp4 are both versions of aac audio.
the latest version of cdda extracter can convert them, i believe. or the
latest winamp should be able to play them, however i haven't gotten it to
work with aac files i convert in CDex.
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread tj
m4a is, to the best of my knoledge a outcropping of the format  apple uses f 
for itunes

tj
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From: "Allison Mervis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: M4A Files


> Nope. m4a is a stand alone file type, and not associated with ipods to the
> best of my knowledge.
> Allison
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>
>
>>I wonder if these aren't aac files? I think they have to do with Ipods. I
>> heard one can rename them .mp4 and play but I don't know if that format
>> was
>> out in Winamp 2.90, maybe 2.97 may be better.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kelly Sapergia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:54 PM
>> Subject: M4A Files
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>I subscribed to a new podcast today, but the files it downloads havve
>>> the extension .m4a. I'm using version 2.90 of WinAmp, which doesn't play
>>> this type of file by default, but I thought I heard that later versions
>>> can
>>> play it. However, I'm reluctant to upgrade to a later version, because
>>> 2.90
>>> is working fine for me. I tried converting the M4A file to an MP3 with
>>> the
>>> trial version of Easy CDDA Extractor, but it gave me an error about
>>> decoding the file or something. Does anyone know if there's a plugin for
>>> WinAmp 2.90 that can play this type of file, or should I upgrade to a
>>> later
>>> version?
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours Sincerely,
>>> Kelly John Sapergia
>>> For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global
>>> Fusion music, listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00
>>> GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind)
>>> Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org
>>> Visit the show's web site at 
>>> http://www.ksapergia.net/northernlights.html
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>>> Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com
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Re: Can not select microphon from the volume control.

2006-05-28 Thread R Q J
Hi Anders,
I am having the same problem,
but haven't found the cause yet.
R Q J
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: Can not select microphon from the volume control.


HEllo!
I have an ac97 onboard soundcard on my computer.
Its a packardbell colputer.
I also have windows xp home sp2 installed on it.
In the volume control in windows you should be able to select microphone as 
a recording source.
But when i try to check that checkbox it becomes checked an unchecked again.
This happens very vast.
THe strange thing is that it seems that all checkboxes except from the 
stereo mix checkbox seem to behave in the same way.
But the stereo mix behaves reverted.
It becomes unchecked and then checked again.
I wonder if anybody here has came across this before?
Any help is highly appreciated.
THanks in advance.
/Anders.
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Nick G
What the hell happened to that message!  Here's what I was trying to say.

Upgrading to the new version is good for you.  They've fixed the playlist 
issues that you were speaking of.
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:46 AM
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> Kelly,
> Those playlist problems have been fixed.  I can say without a doubt that
> upgrading to the new version is good foryou.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kelly Sapergia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:23 AM
> Subject: Re: M4A Files
>
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>Thanks for the suggestion. While I don't mind upgrading to a newer
>> version of the program, I was experiencing playlist problems when using
>> version 5.08 and 5.09 while broadcasting. I suspect the problem had
>> something to do with the Extended Jump to File plugin, but I'm not taking
>> any chances.
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> Yours Sincerely,
>> Kelly John Sapergia
>> For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global
>> Fusion music, listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00
>> GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind)
>> Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Nick G
Kelly,
Those playlist problems have been fixed.  I can say without a doubt that 
upgrading to the new version is good foryou.
Thanks,
Nick
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: M4A Files


> Hi Nick,
>Thanks for the suggestion. While I don't mind upgrading to a newer
> version of the program, I was experiencing playlist problems when using
> version 5.08 and 5.09 while broadcasting. I suspect the problem had
> something to do with the Extended Jump to File plugin, but I'm not taking
> any chances.
>Thanks again.
>
>
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelly John Sapergia
> For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global
> Fusion music, listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00
> GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind)
> Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org
> Visit the show's web site at http://www.ksapergia.net/northernlights.html
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RE: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Tate Luck
I have both satellite services. 
I believe you can have 300 stations and unless you are relevant know one
will care for very long. 

Most stations are music services and hear lies the problem. 
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:40 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: broadcasting question

I think that before the end of the year I will be going that way as well. Do

not like terrestrial radio.

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> That's one reason I stick with my XMPCR device. Not portable, but with an 
> FM
> transmitter I can hear it around the house. I do like being able to read 
> the
> text of all the channels.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>>I don't think that it will be too long before a talking receiver will be
>> available. To me it would be nothing more than converting the text
>> information on the screen to speech.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> That's the thing I hate about XM is not knowing what that song was they
>>> just
>>> played on a channel I like.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 The problem with DAB is that nobody can agree to a Northamerican
 standard.
 We all know what happened to AM stereo. The consumer will ultimately
 determine whether DAB is going to take off or not. I honestly can't see
 people  running out to buy new receivers. What you will see is that
 there
 will be a move to the FM band  with all stations gradually converting
 over
 to DAB. There will be no need for announcers on a fulltime bases, as
 song
 title, artist, and other information will be displayed on a screen in
 much
 the same format as is being used with XM and Sirious. I can see
 commercial
 content going this way as well, as many of us see commercials as an
 intrusion as apposed to providing a service Talk radio will survive, 
 but
 the
 future of commercial music stations looks bleak. The shift is towards
 downloading of MP3 files, and blog newscasts. With digital broadcasting
 it
 will be possible for you to customize the delivery of information
 according
 to your needs. If you want to hear the 8:00 AM news at 8:15 that will 
 be
 possible simply by entering an assigned code on a keypad. You will
 probably
 have a choice on who will deliver the news to your receiver. The
 possibilities are limitless. Another plus is that you will be able to
 listen
 to NPR from coast to coast without missing a beat. You will simply move
 from
 one cell to another, and the radio will do that for you automatically.
 .

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 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response
> to
> 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal.  IBOC is in band on channel
> digital audio broadcasting.  The current hybrid form of IBOC being 
> used
> in
> the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
>
>
> Dave Marthouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio
>> response
>> necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>> > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with,
>> > and
>> > it
>> > is
>> > certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The
> thinking
>> > here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the
>> > other
>> > adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a  different 
>> > story.
>> > Audio processing can now be done remotely from

RE: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Tate Luck
 The bullet for FM is multi-channel. When Fm can have two to eight stations
on one frequency and it is free, XM and friends will not be such a great
idea. 

The radios are coming down, you will be able to get one for 75 buks in the
next year.

 

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That is to say if we can get everyone on the same page, and workout a 
standard that will make everyone happy.
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> In my opinion fm iboc will do well as receiver prices come down and
> multi-channel capability comes to pass.  I think you hit the nail on the
> head regarding am iboc.  In the future things may get better on the am 
> front
> when the hybrid am iboc will be replaced by full digital.  I think the 
> total
> digital conversion will take ten or more years.
>
>
> Dave Marthouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> The question though, is whey stations are doing it who are analog and 
>> have
>> no plans for IBOC in the near future. From what most engineers tell me 
>> who
>> don't work for CC or NPR, AM IBOC is a real bad deal for AM audio and the
>> IBOC audio sounds like a bad Windows Media feed, but there has been too
> much
>> money invested by NPR and Clear Channel to turn back now.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>> > The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response 
>> > to
>> > 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal.  IBOC is in band on channel
>> > digital audio broadcasting.  The current hybrid form of IBOC being used
> in
>> > the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Marthouse
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM
>> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >
>> >
>> >> Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio
> response
>> >> necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
>> >> - Original Message - 
>> >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with, 
>> >> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> > is
>> >> > certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The
>> > thinking
>> >> > here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the
>> >> > other
>> >> > adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a  different story.
>> >> > Audio processing can now be done remotely from the desktop, and can
> be
>> >> > adjusted to fit a number of different formats.
>> >> > - Original Message - 
>> >> > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:33 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ
> audio
>> > and
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Original Message - 
>> >> >> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it
>> >> >>> has
>> > a
>> >> >>> different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth
> for
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a
>> >> >>> lot
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> difference, in theory.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> - Original Message - 
>> >> >>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>  Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed
>> >>  that
>> > a
>> >>  station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz
> audio.
>> >>  The
>> >>  transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ 
>> >>  which
>> >>  is
>> >>  what
>> >>  their analog signal gives you when th

Re: Can not select microphon from the volume control.

2006-05-28 Thread Sun Sparkle
anders, what screen reader, are you using?
jaws, sometimes might do that if you have access to window eyes, you might 
want to try that to see if that will fix your problem.
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Subject: Can not select microphon from the volume control.


> HEllo!
> I have an ac97 onboard soundcard on my computer.
> Its a packardbell colputer.
> I also have windows xp home sp2 installed on it.
> In the volume control in windows you should be able to select microphone 
> as a recording source.
> But when i try to check that checkbox it becomes checked an unchecked 
> again.
> This happens very vast.
> THe strange thing is that it seems that all checkboxes except from the 
> stereo mix checkbox seem to behave in the same way.
> But the stereo mix behaves reverted.
> It becomes unchecked and then checked again.
> I wonder if anybody here has came across this before?
> Any help is highly appreciated.
> THanks in advance.
> /Anders.
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Can not select microphon from the volume control.

2006-05-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
HEllo!
I have an ac97 onboard soundcard on my computer.
Its a packardbell colputer.
I also have windows xp home sp2 installed on it.
In the volume control in windows you should be able to select microphone as a 
recording source.
But when i try to check that checkbox it becomes checked an unchecked again.
This happens very vast.
THe strange thing is that it seems that all checkboxes except from the stereo 
mix checkbox seem to behave in the same way.
But the stereo mix behaves reverted.
It becomes unchecked and then checked again.
I wonder if anybody here has came across this before?
Any help is highly appreciated.
THanks in advance.
/Anders.
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Re: Soundforge Tutorial By Mosen For FS

2006-05-28 Thread Sun Sparkle
if you mean, to listen to radio stations, it is still free, all you have to 
do , is sign up for a free acccount.

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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: Soundforge Tutorial By Mosen For FS


>I have it to, it's really cool!
> Verry interesting, it was done on windows 98.
> I wish that live 365 was still free.
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Re: M4A Files

2006-05-28 Thread Sun Sparkle
kelly
the latest version ofwinamp, doesn't seem to have those problems,  in a way 
winamp has grown, in its feature list, and the things it can do. theonly, 
thing i wish is that the library support would be back. like it was, in the 
eariler versions of the program.
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: M4A Files


> Hi Nick,
>Thanks for the suggestion. While I don't mind upgrading to a newer
> version of the program, I was experiencing playlist problems when using
> version 5.08 and 5.09 while broadcasting. I suspect the problem had
> something to do with the Extended Jump to File plugin, but I'm not taking
> any chances.
>Thanks again.
>
>
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelly John Sapergia
> For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global
> Fusion music, listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00
> GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind)
> Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org
> Visit the show's web site at http://www.ksapergia.net/northernlights.html
> For high-quality audio productions at affordable prices, visit KJS
> Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com
> You can also visit my personal web site at:
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Re: soundforge 7 scripts

2006-05-28 Thread Steve Matzura
What about Window-Eyes?  The last set of SET files I saw for Sound
Forge was for version 5.


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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-28 Thread Steve Matzura
That 5khz audio business is all to pervasive.  Most of the New York
City stations--certainly all the ones offering the digital sideband
thing--are using it, and their audio sounds like old 1960's bad tapes.


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Re: Soundforge Tutorial By Mosen For FS

2006-05-28 Thread Keao Wright
I have it to, it's really cool!
Verry interesting, it was done on windows 98.
I wish that live 365 was still free.

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