Problem with Goldwave

2006-06-08 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Hello, I am having a problem with Goldwave. When I use goldwave for a bit, when 
I try to play a file, it says access violation at address bla bla bla so and so 
forth. Then I have to use the task manager to close it down. When I exit it 
quickly after the error, goldwave still stays running but it is hidden and I 
can't shut it down except when I shut the computer down. What is happening? 
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Re: sound forge 8.0 help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Jerry Richer
 Chris!  The Sound Forge demo did apparently make itself the default
player for Wave and MP3 files.  Sony has confirmed that this is possible.
This didn't happen to me when I installed Sound Forge 8 but there are so
many options who knows what could happen on a given computer.

   Jerry

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! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225,
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RE: Scheduling with Total Recorder

2006-06-08 Thread Dean Martineau
Replay a/v records silently, so one doesn't even know it is 
happening.  It can do this with streams of any streaming type.  Total 
Recorder can only do this with mp3 streams, and even then it is using 
the sound card.  The latest version of Total Recorder has added the 
ability to record multiple streams, which was formerly not possible, 
but I love the silent background recording of the streams without 
recourse to the sound card.

Dean


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VIrtual cable.

2006-06-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
I just tried out the virtual cable program and it seems to be a very good one.
Though its very frustrating to hear this trial sound evry 5 second or something 
like that.
However has anybody here found any free such software?
Its a pain to share my credit card info with someone else and i really dont 
like that.
I dont think thats realiable.
Maybe it is.
/Anders.
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Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards

2006-06-08 Thread Rick Harmon
I think my drivers are the latest but am not 100 percent sure.  I hope you 
can solve your problem.

Rick

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards


Rick.  You wouldn't think it would matter weather it is an Audigy 2 or 4 so
I wonder what else causes this iritating problem.

I hope yours continues to work after updating Creative drivers.  Mine was
working fine.  It didn't work when I first put the Audigy in the computer.
It seems like a few driver updates fixed the problem for a while but I was
never quite sure what did the trick.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards


> Hi,
>
> I have a Audigy 2 card and a realtek on the mb running just fine here.
> Not
> sure about the Audigy 4 cards though.
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards
>
>
> I heard the audigy stuff, in usb is like that. I heard it disables all
> other
> cards in the system.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:54 PM
> Subject: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards
>
>
>>I recently was told by  Hp support that they do not support two sound
>>cards.
>> I don't have official email about this but was told by a support
>> supervisor
>> that they can not help me if I want to use a second audio card at the
>> same
>> time.
>>
>> Today, Creative support emailed me and also told me Creative does not
>> support two sound cards.
>>
>> Neither company has given me a reason why they do not support two sound
>> cards or how one device can cause the other not to work properly.
>>
>> It seems Creative can not help me with any problems I might have running
>> the
>> other card even if it is caused by updating their drivers.
>>
>> Creative support told me to update the drivers to fix another problem.
>> Now
>> I've lost the ability to use the first sound card (Realtek AC'97) for
>> speech
>> and system sounds again.
>>
>> Needless to say, I will be ditching the Audigy 4 Pro even though it has
>> so
>> many great features and does sound good.  I will probably buy a USB sound
>> device to use for speech or even get a serial port adaptor so I can run
>> my
>> LiteTalk on this computer.  I know many people have run down Creative
>> sound
>> cards on this list before but they never really gave good reasons so I
>> didn't pay much attention.  Now I wish I had.
>>
>> I will never buy another HP product.  I advise any blind people not to
>> buy
>> HP computers if they wish to run more than one sound card.
>>
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Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards

2006-06-08 Thread linwood
Have you checked into using an external sound card?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards


>I recently was told by  Hp support that they do not support two sound 
>cards.
> I don't have official email about this but was told by a support 
> supervisor
> that they can not help me if I want to use a second audio card at the same
> time.
>
> Today, Creative support emailed me and also told me Creative does not
> support two sound cards.
>
> Neither company has given me a reason why they do not support two sound
> cards or how one device can cause the other not to work properly.
>
> It seems Creative can not help me with any problems I might have running 
> the
> other card even if it is caused by updating their drivers.
>
> Creative support told me to update the drivers to fix another problem. 
> Now
> I've lost the ability to use the first sound card (Realtek AC'97) for 
> speech
> and system sounds again.
>
> Needless to say, I will be ditching the Audigy 4 Pro even though it has so
> many great features and does sound good.  I will probably buy a USB sound
> device to use for speech or even get a serial port adaptor so I can run my
> LiteTalk on this computer.  I know many people have run down Creative 
> sound
> cards on this list before but they never really gave good reasons so I
> didn't pay much attention.  Now I wish I had.
>
> I will never buy another HP product.  I advise any blind people not to buy
> HP computers if they wish to run more than one sound card.
>
>
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Re: VIrtual cable.

2006-06-08 Thread Doc
What is it suppose to be used for?
- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:32 AM
Subject: VIrtual cable.


Hello!
I just tried out the virtual cable program and it seems to be a very good 
one.
Though its very frustrating to hear this trial sound evry 5 second or 
something like that.
However has anybody here found any free such software?
Its a pain to share my credit card info with someone else and i really dont 
like that.
I dont think thats realiable.
Maybe it is.
/Anders.
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Re: VIrtual cable.

2006-06-08 Thread Rob
Hi,
I think I missed something,
what is this program you speak of? & where can I find more info?
- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: VIrtual cable.


> Hello!
> I just tried out the virtual cable program and it seems to be a very good 
> one.
> Though its very frustrating to hear this trial sound evry 5 second or 
> something like that.
> However has anybody here found any free such software?
> Its a pain to share my credit card info with someone else and i really 
> dont like that.
> I dont think thats realiable.
> Maybe it is.
> /Anders.
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Re: sound forge 8.0 help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi Jerry
It sounds like that's the case. In all my years of using SF I've 
never seen that happen before. *insert spooky music here*

At 02:47 AM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>  Chris!  The Sound Forge demo did apparently make itself the default
>player for Wave and MP3 files.  Sony has confirmed that this is possible.
>This didn't happen to me when I installed Sound Forge 8 but there are so
>many options who knows what could happen on a given computer.
>
>Jerry
>
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>! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside,
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>within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml
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>www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
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>! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30
>outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml
>! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225,
>includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside,
>www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml
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>transfers, etc.
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>www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml
>
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>Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email:
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n-Track Studio v4.2 released

2006-06-08 Thread Norma A. Boge-Conyers

n-Track Studio v4.2 has just been released!

Main changes from v4.1.6 to v4.2
___

64 bit mixing and processing option
n-Track DirectX plug-ins support for 64 bit processing
n-Track Drums plug-in: drums sampler and drum machine
Regions of the song where clipping occurred are now highlighted on 
the timeline axis
"Scan song for clipping" Edit menu command
Enhancements to MIDI external hardware control surfaces configuration 
dialog box

How to upgrade
___

Download the new version following the download link from the n-Track 
homepage (
http://www.ntrack.com)
If you've registered n-Track Studio after the 11th of February 2004 
the upgrade to all 4.x versions is free.
Just register it using the registration codes you received when you 
originally purchased the program.
If you've registered the program prior to the 11th of February 2004 you can
upgrade to n-Track Studio v4.0 for $25 at
http://ntrack.com/upgrade.shtm

Visit the n-Track Wiki
___

The n-Track Wiki is a great place to share information about using 
n-Track and recording in general.
Anyone can contribute to the wiki content sharing information, adding 
comments, requesting new features etc.
http://ntrack.com/wiki

64 bit version
___

Starting from version 4.1.5 n-Track is available in both 32 bit and 
64 bit (x64) versions.
The 64 bit version runs on x64 versions of Windows and can fully 
exploit the power of 64 bit CPUs.
The 32 bit and the 64 bit versions are two separate setups that can 
be installed independently.
The 64 bit version does NOT work or install on 32 bit versions of 
Windows, even if the CPU is 64 bit capable.

Tell us what you like and what you don't like of the new version:
http://ntrack.com/feedback_form.html
Your feedback will help us build a better program.

What is n-Track Studio
___

n-Track Studio is an audio & MIDI multitrack recorder for Windows.
A complete recording studio in your PC: all you need is a soundcard and some
free space on your hard disk to store audio data. The program supports
simultaneous recording from multiple 16 and 24 bit soundcards, and 
real-time audio
effects can be applied non-destructively to each track, allowing the 
user to listen
immediately to the result of a change in the parameters of an effect.
Built-in effects include Reverb, Dynamics, Multiband Compression, 
Echo, Pitch Shift,
Chorus Parmetric EQ, Linear Phase EQ & Spectrum analyzer.
The program can use third party DirectX and VST plug-ins to process 
in real-time audio
signals in a number of different ways. Effects can also be used to 
process the recorded
signal in real-time so that the computer can act as a multi-effects device.
MIDI tracks can be imported and exported to regular MIDI files, and 
edited using
the built in piano-roll based MIDI editing.
When all the tracks have been recorded and all the settings are correct,
all the tracks can be mixed down to a single wave file for recording it to
an audio CD using a CD recorder or for distributing an mp3 version 
through the Internet.

For more info and to download an evaluation version please visit
http://www.ntrack.com

Buy the program now at
http://ntrack.com/register.shtm


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RE: n-Track Studio v4.2 released

2006-06-08 Thread John Sanfilippo
Hi Norma and N track users,

I'm curious to know how you access this program. I do not find it
particularly friendly. Perhaps I have something set wrong in jaws, or
perhaps I should be using window eyes.  If you or anyone would like to
write a little blurb about how you use it, on or off list, I for one
would be most grateful.

Js


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norma A.
Boge-Conyers
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:06
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: n-Track Studio v4.2 released



n-Track Studio v4.2 has just been released!

Main changes from v4.1.6 to v4.2 ___

64 bit mixing and processing option
n-Track DirectX plug-ins support for 64 bit processing
n-Track Drums plug-in: drums sampler and drum machine
Regions of the song where clipping occurred are now highlighted on 
the timeline axis
"Scan song for clipping" Edit menu command
Enhancements to MIDI external hardware control surfaces configuration 
dialog box

How to upgrade
___

Download the new version following the download link from the n-Track 
homepage (
http://www.ntrack.com)
If you've registered n-Track Studio after the 11th of February 2004 
the upgrade to all 4.x versions is free.
Just register it using the registration codes you received when you 
originally purchased the program.
If you've registered the program prior to the 11th of February 2004 you
can upgrade to n-Track Studio v4.0 for $25 at
http://ntrack.com/upgrade.shtm

Visit the n-Track Wiki
___

The n-Track Wiki is a great place to share information about using 
n-Track and recording in general.
Anyone can contribute to the wiki content sharing information, adding 
comments, requesting new features etc.
http://ntrack.com/wiki

64 bit version
___

Starting from version 4.1.5 n-Track is available in both 32 bit and 
64 bit (x64) versions.
The 64 bit version runs on x64 versions of Windows and can fully 
exploit the power of 64 bit CPUs.
The 32 bit and the 64 bit versions are two separate setups that can 
be installed independently.
The 64 bit version does NOT work or install on 32 bit versions of 
Windows, even if the CPU is 64 bit capable.

Tell us what you like and what you don't like of the new version:
http://ntrack.com/feedback_form.html
Your feedback will help us build a better program.

What is n-Track Studio
___

n-Track Studio is an audio & MIDI multitrack recorder for Windows. A
complete recording studio in your PC: all you need is a soundcard and
some free space on your hard disk to store audio data. The program
supports simultaneous recording from multiple 16 and 24 bit soundcards,
and 
real-time audio
effects can be applied non-destructively to each track, allowing the 
user to listen
immediately to the result of a change in the parameters of an effect.
Built-in effects include Reverb, Dynamics, Multiband Compression, 
Echo, Pitch Shift,
Chorus Parmetric EQ, Linear Phase EQ & Spectrum analyzer.
The program can use third party DirectX and VST plug-ins to process 
in real-time audio
signals in a number of different ways. Effects can also be used to 
process the recorded
signal in real-time so that the computer can act as a multi-effects
device. MIDI tracks can be imported and exported to regular MIDI files,
and 
edited using
the built in piano-roll based MIDI editing.
When all the tracks have been recorded and all the settings are correct,
all the tracks can be mixed down to a single wave file for recording it
to an audio CD using a CD recorder or for distributing an mp3 version 
through the Internet.

For more info and to download an evaluation version please visit
http://www.ntrack.com

Buy the program now at
http://ntrack.com/register.shtm



  FASoft - Audio Software for Windows
http://www.ntrack.com

To contact us please use the Support link on the www.ntrack.com.
  Replies to this email will be automatically discarded.
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Court decision re satellite tv distant channels

2006-06-08 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Hello,

Sorry for the vague subject line.  When I called Dish Network to 
check my account, I found a recorded message which indicated some 
sort of a court ruling regarding persons qualified to receive 
distant network channels, channels not originating in their home 
area.  I could not determine the substance; but the tone of the 
message certainly indicated that the ruling was adverse to the 
interests of those of us receiving distant channels.

If someone here has any substantive information about this, I 
would appreciate knowing it.  Thanks in advance.

Don Roberts


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Re: VIrtual cable.

2006-06-08 Thread Brent Harding
I wish I could silence the autoupdating JFW reads in that window with the 
audio repeaters. For what I need, I will need 3 instances of repeater going, 
and I want that hidden from view but want mutability to patch things in or 
out, say to shoutcast Skype to have it on air or not.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: VIrtual cable.


> Hello!
> I just tried out the virtual cable program and it seems to be a very good 
> one.
> Though its very frustrating to hear this trial sound evry 5 second or 
> something like that.
> However has anybody here found any free such software?
> Its a pain to share my credit card info with someone else and i really 
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> I dont think thats realiable.
> Maybe it is.
> /Anders.
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cdex and m4A

2006-06-08 Thread Curtis Delzer
Does anyone know whether CDEX will make an audio CD from m4A files?

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Re: cdex and m4A

2006-06-08 Thread Sarah
CDex dos not burn cds. it wripps them on to your hard drive.
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Does anyone know whether CDEX will make an audio CD from m4A files?

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Re: cdex and m4A

2006-06-08 Thread Curtis Delzer
OOPS, right, still wondering if it could convert m4A files. Thanks

Curtis Delzer

At 01:31 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>CDex dos not burn cds. it wripps them on to your hard drive.
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>Does anyone know whether CDEX will make an audio CD from m4A files?
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Re: cdex and m4A

2006-06-08 Thread Sarah
not to my knoledge. but don't quote me on that.
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OOPS, right, still wondering if it could convert m4A files. Thanks

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>Does anyone know whether CDEX will make an audio CD from m4A files?
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Re: cdex and m4A

2006-06-08 Thread Debbie Scales
Curtis, I did a search on the web and found a page that said CDEX 1.51 can
Convert MP3, WAV, WMA, OGG, AAC, APE, VQF, M4A.
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OOPS, right, still wondering if it could convert m4A files. Thanks

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Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
Winamp gets my vote simply because for some things it beats WMP. I don't 
want to argue or anything, but winamp has time markers, good for the avid 
reader. It also is easier to navigate in the library. It could just be me 
but jaws is saying in wmp "treeview, closed" instead of treeview album etc 
etc. But winamp can't go by album and artist, but that doesn't matter since 
I usually make playlists in WMP. On the other hand, if you meant ripping, 
WMP does a supirior job, besides from CDEX or exact audio copy or any 
program deticated to ripping.

Tyler
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> Not only is it a windows media audio format, but it's also the best format
> by a mile.
>
> Heere is my 2 cents.  Considering windows media player 10 works really 
> well
> with jaws and I wouldn't mind betting that it also works with window eyes
> and any other half decent screen reader, then wmp 10 gets my vote and so
> does the wma format mentioned.
>
> Warren French.
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> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:53 AM
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>
>> Lossless is a Windows Media Audio format!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>>> Its not a program; its a music format, like mp3 or wavv.
>>>
>>> Tyler
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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:26 PM
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>>>
>>>
 Hi, Kevin.  Where can you get this program called Lossless?
 Rosemarie

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 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:03 AM
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> Hi Mari.
>
> Not a stupid question at all - the myriad of formats are definitely
> confusing until you get more acquainted with digital music.
>
> Basically, lossless means that nothing has been taken away from the
> music
> during compression.  So, all of your high and low frequencies are left
> intact and therefore the quality of the source music is preserved.
>
> The opposite of lossless is known as lossy.  This covers formats like
> MP3
> and WMA files ripped at lower bit rates.  With lossy compression, some
> of
> the high and low frequencies are lost to compress the music down into
> the
> smallest space possible.  There are also a number of psycho-acoustic
> techniques used to remove parts of the music that is deemed will not 
> be
> missed by the listener such as quieter sounds that happen to be 
> playing
> whilst there is a louder sound almost obscuring it.  All formats have
> their
> own proprietary algorithms that dictate how the music is processed and
> that's why it's never a good idea to convert from one lossy format to
> another.
>
> Lossless files take up a lot more disc space than lossy formats and so
> it's
> worth bearing this in mind when deciding on what format to use.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kevin
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> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:35 PM
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>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Thank you so much for sharing the step-by-step method for extracting
>> tracks with Windows Media Player. I have just begun learning how to 
>> do
>> this, and I was a bit confused. One question: What is "lossless"?
>> Stupid, I know, but I'm a beginner. Thank you again.
>>
>> Mari Dole
>>
>>
>>
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Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
Mine does 52- but I'm guessing you got yours a while back. I got mine in 04, 
and a lot of new burners burn at 52 x (that is if they are stand-alone, not 
with dvd burner as well).

Tyler
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> hi tyler
> i highly doubt real networks will switch to something like winamp, i just
> can't see it.
> the paid version of winamp burns at 48x, but this is only useful if you 
> have
> a burner that supports burning that fast. not many burners that come with
> pc's do, and most of the lower end externals or mountables do either. my
> laptop only burns at 16x i think, possibly 24 and the one i installed on 
> the
> 98 machine does 16, and we paid pretty good money for it.
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Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
really? tell me, friend, is it free to burn mp3 cds? no. And, no again, you 
can't make mp3 conversions in what I'm talking about. Real player saves its 
library in some unknown directory to start with, and it saves from a cd in 
.rm or some such format. I don't see an mp3 conversion hear, anyway. Unless 
you pay for it, probably.


Tyler
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> Now, why would you say something like that.  Of course Replayer allows 
> .mp3
> conversions.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> I think its stupid that real player doesn't allow .mp3 conversion, but 
> that
> is about the only setback I can see, although you have to pay for some
> things which is even more of a drag. I stil like winamp, though, but I use
> meedia player for leasure music listening since its real easy to make
> playlists in.
>
> Tyler
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> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> Hi Tyler.
>>
>> There's plenty of references to using OGG plug-ins in media player - just
>> google it.  As for the real format, well that's just too proprietary and
>> will never be supported widely by portable devices and is a pain to
>> convert
>> so that's a non starter for me even if it is the best player in the 
>> world.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Kevin
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>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>>> ahem...
>>>
>>> I'd have to say that real player would win against playing all filetypes
>>> even though it may be hard to get used to. Its easy to make a playlist,
>> and
>>> at least in my experience its a good all-around player. You can rip 
>>> music
>>> from real player, too. It it doesn't get much simpler: put a cd into the
>>> tray and have it rip to your library automaticly. Only problem is that
>>> its
>>> real format which is a drag. Not to argue or anything but I haven't seen
>>> a
>>> big difference in winamp and windows meedia player, though. Winamp plays
>>> .ogg. Is that the only player that does? Or is there a pluggin for wmp?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Brandon.
>>> >
>>> > Don't completely disagree with your points below - very valid.
>>> > However,
>> I
>>> > don't think it gets much easier to rip a CD than placing a CD in the
>>> > drawer
>>> > and having it automatically ejected less than 2 minutes later having
>> been
>>> > ripped to the format of your choice which once set as your default 
>>> > will
>>> > stick.  You're free to do as much or as little with your computer 
>>> > while
>>> > media player is ripping too.  I personally ripped with CDEX for years
>> but
>>> > was converted over to media player due to CDEX's lack of support for
>>> > modern
>>> > formats and, in particular, the format I use most often, lossless WMA.
>> I
>>> > haven't regretted it.  Also bear in mind that the free version of CDEX
>> is
>>> > ancient now and the current version is not free unlike media player 
>>> > 10.
>>> >
>>> > As far as playback goes, try playing a concept album where the tracks
>> run
>>> > into each other or a live album in both winamp and media player 10.
>>> > You'll
>>> > see that media player wins hands down in providing a seemless 
>>> > listening
>>> > experience.  As for quality, it's very subjective but I do think that
>>> > media
>>> > player does a better job with WMA than winamp.  I suppose that's not a
>>> > surprise given it's a  microsoft player playing a microsoft format?
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> > Kevin
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>>> > - Original Message - 
>>> > From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> hi,
>>> >> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>>> >>
>>> >> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you
>> can
>>> > go
>>> >> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to
>> use,
>>> > is
>>> >> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier 
>>> >> than
>>> >> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>

Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
Yeah, your not kidding. It takes a while to make an image of a cd when your 
burning, just to start with the burning limmitations.

Tyler
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:40 AM
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>I don't know, even my Ipod supports the Real format, both protected and
> unprotected.  Windows Media has some real limitations.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> Hi Tyler.
>
> There's plenty of references to using OGG plug-ins in media player - just
> google it.  As for the real format, well that's just too proprietary and
> will never be supported widely by portable devices and is a pain to 
> convert
> so that's a non starter for me even if it is the best player in the world.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kevin
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> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> ahem...
>>
>> I'd have to say that real player would win against playing all filetypes
>> even though it may be hard to get used to. Its easy to make a playlist,
> and
>> at least in my experience its a good all-around player. You can rip music
>> from real player, too. It it doesn't get much simpler: put a cd into the
>> tray and have it rip to your library automaticly. Only problem is that 
>> its
>> real format which is a drag. Not to argue or anything but I haven't seen 
>> a
>> big difference in winamp and windows meedia player, though. Winamp plays
>> .ogg. Is that the only player that does? Or is there a pluggin for wmp?
>> thanks
>>
>> Tyler
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>> > Hi Brandon.
>> >
>> > Don't completely disagree with your points below - very valid. 
>> > However,
> I
>> > don't think it gets much easier to rip a CD than placing a CD in the
>> > drawer
>> > and having it automatically ejected less than 2 minutes later having
> been
>> > ripped to the format of your choice which once set as your default will
>> > stick.  You're free to do as much or as little with your computer while
>> > media player is ripping too.  I personally ripped with CDEX for years
> but
>> > was converted over to media player due to CDEX's lack of support for
>> > modern
>> > formats and, in particular, the format I use most often, lossless WMA.
> I
>> > haven't regretted it.  Also bear in mind that the free version of CDEX
> is
>> > ancient now and the current version is not free unlike media player 10.
>> >
>> > As far as playback goes, try playing a concept album where the tracks
> run
>> > into each other or a live album in both winamp and media player 10.
>> > You'll
>> > see that media player wins hands down in providing a seemless listening
>> > experience.  As for quality, it's very subjective but I do think that
>> > media
>> > player does a better job with WMA than winamp.  I suppose that's not a
>> > surprise given it's a  microsoft player playing a microsoft format?
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> > E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>> >
>> >
>> >> hi,
>> >> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>> >>
>> >> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you
> can
>> > go
>> >> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to
> use,
>> > is
>> >> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier than
>> >> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>> >> scratched. to get it, or even just check it out, go to
>> >> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>> >> if you don't like it, you can remove it, but i personally use it for
>> > ripping
>> >> as well as converting between different formats.
>> >>
>> >> as for playing music, I know a lot of blind people use winamp. it's
>> > totally
>> >> scripted, and doesn't have a bunch of garbage that you don't need. 
>> >> it's
>> > all
>> >> keyboard controled and easy. it rips cd's as well, and is also a good
>> > method
>> >> despite being a bit slower. on my pc, it still ripped a cd in 10
> minutes
>> >> with little processor eating up, so i could do other stuff while
> ripping.
>> >> winamp allows you to burn cd's as well, and in my opinion is easier to
>> >> use
>> >> than media player, besides having more internet broadcast

Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
where is this? *clapps hands...appoligizes...I didn't know there was an 
option to do that. And now my real player is acting mental. When I go to 
burn a cd, it won't show me the list of currently added songs. What's going 
on hear?

Tyler

PS: that's just to begin with, there are a lot of other things going wrong 
now. When I exit real player, and go back into it, it won't tell me where I 
am when I tab around. I know I'm in the real player window, but jaws is 
announcing nothing when I'm in real player. I tried maximizing and all that 
happy crappy, nothing worked. Would a uninstal and reinstal do it?

Tyler
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:16 AM
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> You can change the default format from the Real formats to several other
> choices.
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> ahem...
>
> I'd have to say that real player would win against playing all filetypes
> even though it may be hard to get used to. Its easy to make a playlist,
> and at least in my experience its a good all-around player. You can rip
> music from real player, too. It it doesn't get much simpler: put a cd
> into the tray and have it rip to your library automaticly. Only problem
> is that its real format which is a drag. Not to argue or anything but I
> haven't seen a big difference in winamp and windows meedia player,
> though. Winamp plays .ogg. Is that the only player that does? Or is
> there a pluggin for wmp?
> thanks
>
> Tyler
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> Hi Brandon.
>>
>> Don't completely disagree with your points below - very valid.
> However, I
>> don't think it gets much easier to rip a CD than placing a CD in the
>> drawer
>> and having it automatically ejected less than 2 minutes later having
> been
>> ripped to the format of your choice which once set as your default
> will
>> stick.  You're free to do as much or as little with your computer
> while
>> media player is ripping too.  I personally ripped with CDEX for years
> but
>> was converted over to media player due to CDEX's lack of support for
>> modern
>> formats and, in particular, the format I use most often, lossless WMA.
> I
>> haven't regretted it.  Also bear in mind that the free version of CDEX
> is
>> ancient now and the current version is not free unlike media player
> 10.
>>
>> As far as playback goes, try playing a concept album where the tracks
> run
>> into each other or a live album in both winamp and media player 10.
>> You'll
>> see that media player wins hands down in providing a seemless
> listening
>> experience.  As for quality, it's very subjective but I do think that
>> media
>> player does a better job with WMA than winamp.  I suppose that's not a
>> surprise given it's a  microsoft player playing a microsoft format?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Kevin
>> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>>> hi,
>>> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>>>
>>> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you
> can
>> go
>>> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to
> use,
>> is
>>> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier
> than
>>> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>>> scratched. to get it, or even just check it out, go to
>>> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>>> if you don't like it, you can remove it, but i personally use it for
>> ripping
>>> as well as converting between different formats.
>>>
>>> as for playing music, I know a lot of blind people use winamp. it's
>> totally
>>> scripted, and doesn't have a bunch of garbage that you don't need.
> it's
>> all
>>> keyboard controled and easy. it rips cd's as well, and is also a good
>> method
>>> despite being a bit slower. on my pc, it still ripped a cd in 10
> minutes
>>> with little processor eating up, so i could do other stuff while
> ripping.
>>> winamp allows you to burn cd's as well, and in my opinion is easier
> to
>>> use
>>> than media player, besides having more internet broadcasting stations
>>> available that media player doesn't have.
>>>
>>> the only disadvantage to winamp, and this can be gotten around, is it
>>> doesn't play dvd movies. there are plugins that allow you to do this,
>>> though.
>>> winamp can be gotten from
>>> http://www.winamp.com
>>> that's abou

Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
I don't have a problem, the problem is I'd rather be able to choose the 
exact bitrate (not just quolity: 0 percent). I used the jaws cursor and got 
nothing, at least from what I could understand. What is zero quolity vs. 100 
percent quolity in bitrates?

Tyler
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: ripping CD's with windows media player


>I don't know why people have such a problem ripping CD's with Windows Media
> Player.  Just don't have the player in skin mode and make extensive use of
> your tab key and it's easy to do what you want.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:42 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> To add to that, though, windows meedia player is good for a beginner. Then
> you could move up to cdex when you know all of the ripping methods and 
> such.
>
> Tyler
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> hi,
>> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>>
>> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you can
>> go
>> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to use,
>> is
>> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier than
>> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>> scratched. to get it, or even just check it out, go to
>> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>> if you don't like it, you can remove it, but i personally use it for
>> ripping
>> as well as converting between different formats.
>>
>> as for playing music, I know a lot of blind people use winamp. it's
>> totally
>> scripted, and doesn't have a bunch of garbage that you don't need. it's
>> all
>> keyboard controled and easy. it rips cd's as well, and is also a good
>> method
>> despite being a bit slower. on my pc, it still ripped a cd in 10 minutes
>> with little processor eating up, so i could do other stuff while ripping.
>> winamp allows you to burn cd's as well, and in my opinion is easier to 
>> use
>> than media player, besides having more internet broadcasting stations
>> available that media player doesn't have.
>>
>> the only disadvantage to winamp, and this can be gotten around, is it
>> doesn't play dvd movies. there are plugins that allow you to do this,
>> though.
>> winamp can be gotten from
>> http://www.winamp.com
>> that's about it from me.
>> Brandon Hicks
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Tyler Wood
Hey brandon I'll send you that if you don't have it. Its free as far as I 
can remember look on nero.com if I'm not on MSN tonight. Oh, don't feel bad 
even if its only 16 x. I once had one on my 98 machine that was 8x, but than 
that was in 2001.

Tyler
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From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: ripping CD's with windows media player


> The max will show up in Windows Media player as what ever the speed of 
> media
> was rated the last time you burned a cd.  Find out what your drive is 
> rated
> for and buy the corresponding media.  If you are running 98SE or above 
> then
> the only thing you would need to update is your drive.  Do you use nero? 
> If
> so, run the info tool on your drive.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:27 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> hi
> i don't think it's the media. even in my computer with no media in, the 
> max
> is 16x as far as i can remember. would a firmware upgrade, if i can find
> one, help?
>
> Brandon Hicks
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Re: Hp and Creative DO NOT support two sound cards

2006-06-08 Thread Bobcat
YesIf I keep the Audigy.  I'm looking at the Griffin Technology - iMic USB 
for basic audio and speech.
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/

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> Have you checked into using an external sound card?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>I recently was told by  Hp support that they do not support two sound
>>cards.
>> I don't have official email about this but was told by a support
>> supervisor
>> that they can not help me if I want to use a second audio card at the 
>> same
>> time.
>>
>> Today, Creative support emailed me and also told me Creative does not
>> support two sound cards.
>>
>> Neither company has given me a reason why they do not support two sound
>> cards or how one device can cause the other not to work properly.
>>
>> It seems Creative can not help me with any problems I might have running
>> the
>> other card even if it is caused by updating their drivers.
>>
>> Creative support told me to update the drivers to fix another problem.
>> Now
>> I've lost the ability to use the first sound card (Realtek AC'97) for
>> speech
>> and system sounds again.
>>
>> Needless to say, I will be ditching the Audigy 4 Pro even though it has 
>> so
>> many great features and does sound good.  I will probably buy a USB sound
>> device to use for speech or even get a serial port adaptor so I can run 
>> my
>> LiteTalk on this computer.  I know many people have run down Creative
>> sound
>> cards on this list before but they never really gave good reasons so I
>> didn't pay much attention.  Now I wish I had.
>>
>> I will never buy another HP product.  I advise any blind people not to 
>> buy
>> HP computers if they wish to run more than one sound card.


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Announcing the official launch of FX Radio!

2006-06-08 Thread Patrick Perdue
What is FX Radio? Well, it's a concept that Derek Lane and I came up with last 
summer when we were both rather bored.
Basically, it's the result of what happens when you load three instances of 
winamp equipped with crossfaders, then load a whole ton of high quality sound 
effects libraries into each winamp, making sure, of course, that everything is 
randomized.
The sequence of events that can happen as a result of this are rather strange, 
and many interesting things can happen to your mind as a result of listening to 
the random combinations of odd things that occur.

Have you ever seen a bird driving a car under water, all the while being shot 
at by a telephone? Or, perhaps, little kids playing in underwater construction 
sites? How about frogs that make things explode, sheep making things blow up, 
or machine guns blasting through a calm cafe, all the while everyone seems to 
be oblivious to the fact that they are being shot at, and, in fact, don't seem 
to mind very much?
All these things can and have been known to happen on FX Radio, all sound 
effects, all the time, 24 hours a day!

To tune in, you will need a streaming media player compatible with AAC+ 
streaming, such as Winamp (5.1 or higher, except 5.22 which has a bug that 
breaks AAC streams), VLC Mediaplayer, or Foobar 2000.

If you have a compatible player, go to one of the following addresses:
shoutcast: http://fx.pdaudio.net:80
icecast: http://tbrn.net:/fx.aac

Note: If you are using the Thompson mp3 pro decoder for Winamp, the shoutcast 
stream will not work unless it is disabled. The icecast feed will, however, 
since the .aac extention will not be passed off to the mp3 pro decoder.

The bandwidth is low enough such that you can listen with either a dial-up or 
broadband connection. Either way, you'll still get the same great quality that 
AAC+ streaming provides.

Also, as the shoutcast server is on port 80, this means you can listen to FX 
Radio behind any proxy server that only allows access to http, such as 
universities and other institutions. Yes, a nice distraction during class might 
be good, don't you think?
Why not freak out your friends, classmates or co-workers while you're at it? 
Maybe all of the above?

Close your eyes, put on some headphones, tune in, and get ready for a very 
strange, and altogether different experience!
It's FX Radio! No, really?

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Time Markers in Winamp was Re: ripping CD's with windows media player

2006-06-08 Thread Steve Pattison
Just to clarify something, Winamp definitely doesn't have time 
Markers, try using Winamp with Window-eyes and all of your time 
markers will instantly disappear (smile).  People need to remember 
that time markers are a feature of the JAWS scripts for Winamp and 
not a feature of Winamp itself.

At 07:36 AM 9/06/2006, you wrote:
>Winamp gets my vote simply because for some things it beats WMP. I don't
>want to argue or anything, but winamp has time markers, good for the avid
>reader. It also is easier to navigate in the library. It could just be me
>but jaws is saying in wmp "treeview, closed" instead of treeview album etc
>etc. But winamp can't go by album and artist, but that doesn't matter since
>I usually make playlists in WMP. On the other hand, if you meant ripping,
>WMP does a supirior job, besides from CDEX or exact audio copy or any
>program deticated to ripping.

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FW: Times/Delta Article On Independent Voting: 06062006

2006-06-08 Thread Pam Drake
Below is the coverage which appeared in our local newspaper on June 7th
after Dave  and I voted independently for the first time the previous
day.  

The article and guest commentary appeared as two items; and I have copied
and pasted the text to a single message.  

Dave's initial idea was to write a guest commentary on the importance of
this experience to us; and the newspaper staff decided to do a story with
photos.  

The reporter interviewed us before and after we had completed voting.  A
brief interview, complete with audio, is located on visaliatimesdelta.com
off a link entitled "Video Extras", and requires the Quicktime player.  

Pam


Visually impaired vote on their own
By Ryanne Persinger
Staff writer
Voting is now one less obstacle David McElroy and Pamela Drake will have to
deal with.
For the first time in their lives, McElroy and Drake, both blind, were able
to vote without assistance from friends or poll workers when they used the
audio option of a touch screen voting machine in Tuesday's election.
The voting machine at their polling station, Community of Christ Church at
2127 S.
Giddings St., allowed them to vote using headphones and a key pad with
Braille and large buttons.
"It's extremely liberating," McElroy said. "When you can go to the polling
place and cast your own ballot, it contributes to our participation in the
community.
"There was a time when I voted not by what I believed, but by what the poll
worker would have wanted," added McElroy, a retired Tulare County social
services employee."
Drake agreed.
"I think [the new system] will make me more interested and more motivated to
vote,"
she said. "It means more when you're actually doing it yourself. ... It has
more of an impact."
Drake lost her sight at 4 months old, and McElroy has been blind his birth.
They've been partners for 13 years.
Both said the new voting machine is the most convenient way they have voted.
"Before, we had to go down to the courthouse and get an absentee ballot or
get the help of a friend or the polling place," Drake said.
Kim Shannon, county elections supervisor, said when a person is using the
audio voting option on the machine, the screen will read, "audio voting
enabled."
That way people walking behind a blind person won't be able to see who he or
she is voting for.
She added that voters do not have to be blind or have a disability to use
the machine.
One machine was at each of the county's 75 polling stations.
Cheri Olson, a poll volunteer, said using the machine is simple.
"It's like playing video games," she said.
McElroy admitted he was more interested in the voting machine than the
actual outcome.
"This is a boring election," he said. "I wasn't sure I would have come out
to vote if it weren't for that gadget."
The reporter can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] gannett.com.
Originally published June 7, 2006

Steve R. Fujimoto/Times-Delta
David McElroy was one of the first blind people in Tulare County to vote
unassisted.
They used the new touch-screen voting machines at Community of Christ Church
in Visalia.
McElroy writes about what the change means in a column on Opinion/ 6A.
How it works
Voters go to polling station, sign roster and indicate they want to use the
touch screen machine Voters turn in their paper ballot and receive a voter
card Voter card is inserted into the touch screen Voter uses headphones and
a key pad with Braille and large buttons The audio lists candidates names
After voting, a receipt prints



COMMENTARY
Technology allows voting independence
There are certainly challenges to being a blind couple in a seeing world;
one has just been mitigated.
Tuesday, June 6, 2006. Election Day in California and Tulare County. Just
another in a stream of midterm elections similar to many in which we have
taken part for years. Similar, yes. Exactly the same, decidedly not.

For the first time in our lives, Pam and I have voted independently. For the
first time, as blind people, our ballots were cast in secret with absolute
privacy.
Yes, the long-standing tradition of a secret ballot has now been made
available to anyone whose physical disability might preclude them from
marking a ballot in the traditional manner.
As active participants in civic life, unfettered access to the ballot box
has always been a problem. We could either depend on a trusted friend to
read the ballot and mark our choices at the polling place, request the
assistance of a poll worker or depend on the absentee ballot, again with the
assistance of another person.
For me, this issue really hit close to home not too many years ago. A highly
charged issue was on the ballot, and I was certain that the poll worker who
assisted me did not share my views on the matter at hand. This made me
extremely uncomfortable, as I had no wish to offend. Additionally, there was
always the possibility that others in the room would have heard my
selection, no matter how quietly I spoke.
Therefore,
being relatively certain of t

Re: FW: Times/Delta Article On Independent Voting: 06062006

2006-06-08 Thread Dale Campbell
Great article...
dale
At 07:04 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>Below is the coverage which appeared in our local newspaper on June 7th
>after Dave  and I voted independently for the first time the previous
>day.
>
>The article and guest commentary appeared as two items; and I have copied
>and pasted the text to a single message.
>
>Dave's initial idea was to write a guest commentary on the importance of
>this experience to us; and the newspaper staff decided to do a story with
>photos.
>
>The reporter interviewed us before and after we had completed voting.  A
>brief interview, complete with audio, is located on visaliatimesdelta.com
>off a link entitled "Video Extras", and requires the Quicktime player.
>
>Pam
>
>
>Visually impaired vote on their own
>By Ryanne Persinger
>Staff writer
>Voting is now one less obstacle David McElroy and Pamela Drake will have to
>deal with.
>For the first time in their lives, McElroy and Drake, both blind, were able
>to vote without assistance from friends or poll workers when they used the
>audio option of a touch screen voting machine in Tuesday's election.
>The voting machine at their polling station, Community of Christ Church at
>2127 S.
>Giddings St., allowed them to vote using headphones and a key pad with
>Braille and large buttons.
>"It's extremely liberating," McElroy said. "When you can go to the polling
>place and cast your own ballot, it contributes to our participation in the
>community.
>"There was a time when I voted not by what I believed, but by what the poll
>worker would have wanted," added McElroy, a retired Tulare County social
>services employee."
>Drake agreed.
>"I think [the new system] will make me more interested and more motivated to
>vote,"
>she said. "It means more when you're actually doing it yourself. ... It has
>more of an impact."
>Drake lost her sight at 4 months old, and McElroy has been blind his birth.
>They've been partners for 13 years.
>Both said the new voting machine is the most convenient way they have voted.
>"Before, we had to go down to the courthouse and get an absentee ballot or
>get the help of a friend or the polling place," Drake said.
>Kim Shannon, county elections supervisor, said when a person is using the
>audio voting option on the machine, the screen will read, "audio voting
>enabled."
>That way people walking behind a blind person won't be able to see who he or
>she is voting for.
>She added that voters do not have to be blind or have a disability to use
>the machine.
>One machine was at each of the county's 75 polling stations.
>Cheri Olson, a poll volunteer, said using the machine is simple.
>"It's like playing video games," she said.
>McElroy admitted he was more interested in the voting machine than the
>actual outcome.
>"This is a boring election," he said. "I wasn't sure I would have come out
>to vote if it weren't for that gadget."
>The reporter can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] gannett.com.
>Originally published June 7, 2006
>
>Steve R. Fujimoto/Times-Delta
>David McElroy was one of the first blind people in Tulare County to vote
>unassisted.
>They used the new touch-screen voting machines at Community of Christ Church
>in Visalia.
>McElroy writes about what the change means in a column on Opinion/ 6A.
>How it works
>Voters go to polling station, sign roster and indicate they want to use the
>touch screen machine Voters turn in their paper ballot and receive a voter
>card Voter card is inserted into the touch screen Voter uses headphones and
>a key pad with Braille and large buttons The audio lists candidates names
>After voting, a receipt prints
>
>
>
>COMMENTARY
>Technology allows voting independence
>There are certainly challenges to being a blind couple in a seeing world;
>one has just been mitigated.
>Tuesday, June 6, 2006. Election Day in California and Tulare County. Just
>another in a stream of midterm elections similar to many in which we have
>taken part for years. Similar, yes. Exactly the same, decidedly not.
>
>For the first time in our lives, Pam and I have voted independently. For the
>first time, as blind people, our ballots were cast in secret with absolute
>privacy.
>Yes, the long-standing tradition of a secret ballot has now been made
>available to anyone whose physical disability might preclude them from
>marking a ballot in the traditional manner.
>As active participants in civic life, unfettered access to the ballot box
>has always been a problem. We could either depend on a trusted friend to
>read the ballot and mark our choices at the polling place, request the
>assistance of a poll worker or depend on the absentee ballot, again with the
>assistance of another person.
>For me, this issue really hit close to home not too many years ago. A highly
>charged issue was on the ballot, and I was certain that the poll worker who
>assisted me did not share my views on the matter at hand. This made me
>extremely uncomfortable, as I had no wish to offend. Additionally, there was
>always the possi

Re: Announcing the official launch of FX Radio!

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Skarstad
this is probably one of the strangest streams I've ever heard.  If 
you fall asleep with FX Radio on, be prepared to have some very very 
strange dreams indeed.


At 06:04 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>What is FX Radio? Well, it's a concept that Derek Lane and I came up 
>with last summer when we were both rather bored.
>Basically, it's the result of what happens when you load three 
>instances of winamp equipped with crossfaders, then load a whole ton 
>of high quality sound effects libraries into each winamp, making 
>sure, of course, that everything is randomized.
>The sequence of events that can happen as a result of this are 
>rather strange, and many interesting things can happen to your mind 
>as a result of listening to the random combinations of odd things that occur.
>
>Have you ever seen a bird driving a car under water, all the while 
>being shot at by a telephone? Or, perhaps, little kids playing in 
>underwater construction sites? How about frogs that make things 
>explode, sheep making things blow up, or machine guns blasting 
>through a calm cafe, all the while everyone seems to be oblivious to 
>the fact that they are being shot at, and, in fact, don't seem to 
>mind very much?
>All these things can and have been known to happen on FX Radio, all 
>sound effects, all the time, 24 hours a day!
>
>To tune in, you will need a streaming media player compatible with 
>AAC+ streaming, such as Winamp (5.1 or higher, except 5.22 which has 
>a bug that breaks AAC streams), VLC Mediaplayer, or Foobar 2000.
>
>If you have a compatible player, go to one of the following addresses:
>shoutcast: http://fx.pdaudio.net:80
>icecast: http://tbrn.net:/fx.aac
>
>Note: If you are using the Thompson mp3 pro decoder for Winamp, the 
>shoutcast stream will not work unless it is disabled. The icecast 
>feed will, however, since the .aac extention will not be passed off 
>to the mp3 pro decoder.
>
>The bandwidth is low enough such that you can listen with either a 
>dial-up or broadband connection. Either way, you'll still get the 
>same great quality that AAC+ streaming provides.
>
>Also, as the shoutcast server is on port 80, this means you can 
>listen to FX Radio behind any proxy server that only allows access 
>to http, such as universities and other institutions. Yes, a nice 
>distraction during class might be good, don't you think?
>Why not freak out your friends, classmates or co-workers while 
>you're at it? Maybe all of the above?
>
>Close your eyes, put on some headphones, tune in, and get ready for 
>a very strange, and altogether different experience!
>It's FX Radio! No, really?
>
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>--
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>KE4DYI
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Re: Announcing the official launch of FX Radio!

2006-06-08 Thread the mighty spork
fx radio is just nuts mon.  no need for chemically altering substances.

Rick
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Announcing the official launch of FX Radio!


> this is probably one of the strangest streams I've ever heard.  If
> you fall asleep with FX Radio on, be prepared to have some very very
> strange dreams indeed.
>
>
> At 06:04 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>>What is FX Radio? Well, it's a concept that Derek Lane and I came up
>>with last summer when we were both rather bored.
>>Basically, it's the result of what happens when you load three
>>instances of winamp equipped with crossfaders, then load a whole ton
>>of high quality sound effects libraries into each winamp, making
>>sure, of course, that everything is randomized.
>>The sequence of events that can happen as a result of this are
>>rather strange, and many interesting things can happen to your mind
>>as a result of listening to the random combinations of odd things that 
>>occur.
>>
>>Have you ever seen a bird driving a car under water, all the while
>>being shot at by a telephone? Or, perhaps, little kids playing in
>>underwater construction sites? How about frogs that make things
>>explode, sheep making things blow up, or machine guns blasting
>>through a calm cafe, all the while everyone seems to be oblivious to
>>the fact that they are being shot at, and, in fact, don't seem to
>>mind very much?
>>All these things can and have been known to happen on FX Radio, all
>>sound effects, all the time, 24 hours a day!
>>
>>To tune in, you will need a streaming media player compatible with
>>AAC+ streaming, such as Winamp (5.1 or higher, except 5.22 which has
>>a bug that breaks AAC streams), VLC Mediaplayer, or Foobar 2000.
>>
>>If you have a compatible player, go to one of the following addresses:
>>shoutcast: http://fx.pdaudio.net:80
>>icecast: http://tbrn.net:/fx.aac
>>
>>Note: If you are using the Thompson mp3 pro decoder for Winamp, the
>>shoutcast stream will not work unless it is disabled. The icecast
>>feed will, however, since the .aac extention will not be passed off
>>to the mp3 pro decoder.
>>
>>The bandwidth is low enough such that you can listen with either a
>>dial-up or broadband connection. Either way, you'll still get the
>>same great quality that AAC+ streaming provides.
>>
>>Also, as the shoutcast server is on port 80, this means you can
>>listen to FX Radio behind any proxy server that only allows access
>>to http, such as universities and other institutions. Yes, a nice
>>distraction during class might be good, don't you think?
>>Why not freak out your friends, classmates or co-workers while
>>you're at it? Maybe all of the above?
>>
>>Close your eyes, put on some headphones, tune in, and get ready for
>>a very strange, and altogether different experience!
>>It's FX Radio! No, really?
>>
>>--
>>--
>>Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA)
>>KE4DYI
>>Greensboro, NC
>>website: http://www.pdaudio.net
>>home: +1(828)221-2971
>>Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583
>>e-mail and .net messenger: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>skype: Borris
>>
>>For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and
>>modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a
>>blank message to:
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Composition of this message started on Thursday, June 08, 2006 at 7:04 PM 
>>EST.
>>
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Re[2]: Announcing the official launch of FX Radio!

2006-06-08 Thread Patrick Perdue
Hello the,

On Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:19:55 PM, you bellowed the following:
> fx radio is just nuts mon.  no need for chemically altering substances.


Maybe not, but they may enhanse the experience. Who knows? I haven't
tried that yet.

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-- 
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Re: n-Track Studio v4.2 released

2006-06-08 Thread John Moore
I hate N-Track. I had a horrible experience with it when I tried it.
Absolutely nothing accessible except the volume and panning controls.
Don't even think about trying this program.

On 6/8/06, John Sanfilippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Norma and N track users,
>
> I'm curious to know how you access this program. I do not find it
> particularly friendly. Perhaps I have something set wrong in jaws, or
> perhaps I should be using window eyes.  If you or anyone would like to
> write a little blurb about how you use it, on or off list, I for one
> would be most grateful.
>
> Js
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norma A.
> Boge-Conyers
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:06
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: n-Track Studio v4.2 released
>
>
>
> n-Track Studio v4.2 has just been released!
>
> Main changes from v4.1.6 to v4.2 ___
>
> 64 bit mixing and processing option
> n-Track DirectX plug-ins support for 64 bit processing
> n-Track Drums plug-in: drums sampler and drum machine
> Regions of the song where clipping occurred are now highlighted on
> the timeline axis
> "Scan song for clipping" Edit menu command
> Enhancements to MIDI external hardware control surfaces configuration
> dialog box
>
> How to upgrade
> ___
>
> Download the new version following the download link from the n-Track
> homepage (
> http://www.ntrack.com)
> If you've registered n-Track Studio after the 11th of February 2004
> the upgrade to all 4.x versions is free.
> Just register it using the registration codes you received when you
> originally purchased the program.
> If you've registered the program prior to the 11th of February 2004 you
> can upgrade to n-Track Studio v4.0 for $25 at
> http://ntrack.com/upgrade.shtm
>
> Visit the n-Track Wiki
> ___
>
> The n-Track Wiki is a great place to share information about using
> n-Track and recording in general.
> Anyone can contribute to the wiki content sharing information, adding
> comments, requesting new features etc.
> http://ntrack.com/wiki
>
> 64 bit version
> ___
>
> Starting from version 4.1.5 n-Track is available in both 32 bit and
> 64 bit (x64) versions.
> The 64 bit version runs on x64 versions of Windows and can fully
> exploit the power of 64 bit CPUs.
> The 32 bit and the 64 bit versions are two separate setups that can
> be installed independently.
> The 64 bit version does NOT work or install on 32 bit versions of
> Windows, even if the CPU is 64 bit capable.
>
> Tell us what you like and what you don't like of the new version:
> http://ntrack.com/feedback_form.html
> Your feedback will help us build a better program.
>
> What is n-Track Studio
> ___
>
> n-Track Studio is an audio & MIDI multitrack recorder for Windows. A
> complete recording studio in your PC: all you need is a soundcard and
> some free space on your hard disk to store audio data. The program
> supports simultaneous recording from multiple 16 and 24 bit soundcards,
> and
> real-time audio
> effects can be applied non-destructively to each track, allowing the
> user to listen
> immediately to the result of a change in the parameters of an effect.
> Built-in effects include Reverb, Dynamics, Multiband Compression,
> Echo, Pitch Shift,
> Chorus Parmetric EQ, Linear Phase EQ & Spectrum analyzer.
> The program can use third party DirectX and VST plug-ins to process
> in real-time audio
> signals in a number of different ways. Effects can also be used to
> process the recorded
> signal in real-time so that the computer can act as a multi-effects
> device. MIDI tracks can be imported and exported to regular MIDI files,
> and
> edited using
> the built in piano-roll based MIDI editing.
> When all the tracks have been recorded and all the settings are correct,
> all the tracks can be mixed down to a single wave file for recording it
> to an audio CD using a CD recorder or for distributing an mp3 version
> through the Internet.
>
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>
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Gold Wave Version 5.14 Is Out

2006-06-08 Thread Bruce Toews
Gold Wave version 5.14 is now out. This looks to be a very minor upgrade. 
The changes include:

Added logarithmic axis option for Spectrum visual.
Removed auto-complete on comboboxes.
Improved consistency of tool bar layout when Control window is
  opened and closed.
Added horizontal scroll bar to File Merger list and made window
  resizeable.
Added processing priority to progress window.
Increased Insert Silence time range under Batch Processing.
Added "Auto save" and "Power down system" recording options.
Lowered threshold minimums for Auto Trim and Silence Reduction.
Fixed bugs: preset installation, close help, exception on old
  computers caused by optimized Ogg Vorbis plug-in, auto cue 
names,
  reduce average, blank docked level visual, tabbing into frames.


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Golden Ear: A great podcatcher

2006-06-08 Thread Michael Lang
I just discovered a great podcatcher, which works like Winamp's
Shoutcast wire, but is easier to use. With Golden Ear, it's very simple
to just listen to podcasts instead of having to download them. The
program is free:

http://brooklynnorth.com/

   <*** Michael Lang ***>


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