Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread Dana S. Leslie
No more so than the well-documented cases of virtually enslaved textile 
workers in the *American* Marianas. If you don't know about/believe these 
latter, consult Google.
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From: "André van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:07 AM
Subject: RE: Why the iPod is losing its cool


I must agree.  It sounds like some kind of a horror story ...



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Subject: Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

how did you varify this information?
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  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it robert Doc Wright
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From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of it

RE: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread André van Deventer
I must agree.  It sounds like some kind of a horror story ...

 

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Subject: Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool 

how did you varify this information?
**

  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it robert Doc Wright
http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
those white headphones on the train.'

Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five
years ago its sales graph showed a consistent upward curve, culminating in
a period around last Christmas that saw a record 14 million sold. But
sales fell to 8.5 million in th

Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Air America Radio can be heard via the following stream, which opens only in 
WMP, but will also play in Realplayer or winamp if entered in their 
respective address bars:

mms://rx-lvl3-pa15.rbn.com/farm/*/airam/airam/wmlive/live.asf



If anyone knows of a way to get streams using the MMS protocol to open in 
Winamp, rather than WMP, when clicked on, I'd very much

Blessed Be,

Dana

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From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install


> Jonathan, I would agree.  I have tried the alternatives and they don't 
> play
> all the possible Real Player streams available at the high sound quality
> that Real Player offers.
>
> I just installed Real Player on a new computer about a month ago.  It is
> important to pay very close attention when installing the program, as it
> does ask if you want to install other things, like the Google toolbar. 
> this
> is totally optional, but a mindless click through installation will 
> install
> all of this junk.  also, I spent about an hour configuring the program 
> after
> installing it.  I deselected all file types except Real Player and 
> disabled
> other features that made Real Player the default player each time the
> computer started.  I also disabled the browser.
>
> A mindless instillation and lack of configuration I think will likely 
> result
> in disappointment by a blind user.  If this is done, there will be many
> hours of enjoyable listening.  besides the hurricane station, some other
> broadcasts are only available in Real Audio.  these include radio
> Netherlands, Air America Radio, and Bloomberg.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Realplayer, to install or not to install
>
>
>> Hi Lynn, I have installed RealPlayer on many systems and never seen a
>> negative consequence, at least not for many years. There was a time back
>> in
>> the late 90s where RealPlayer did install certain things that some
>> customers
>> objected to. Those days are long behind them. The install allows you to
>> have
>> good control over what file types it handles, and I think it's an
>> excellent
>> player.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Lynn Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 12:00 p.m.
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install
>>
>> Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather events, I
>> would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
>> http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install Real
>> Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of Real
>> Player
>> on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and the fact that I
>> just watched the installation of Real Player wreck several PC's at work
>> recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying it on this new and very
>> well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can do to avoid the
>> intrusiveness
>> of this program, the spyware it installs on your PC and its tendency to
>> just
>> muck things up horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real
>> Alternative, although the research I have done shows that this program
>> does
>> not do streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane City.
>> Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I would hate
>> like
>> heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any help with this 
>> ASAP.
>> If I did have to install RP, is there anything I can do to keep it from
>> causing mayhem on my system?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>
>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-10 Thread Sarah
but the IRiver is not accessible at all. at least tha'ts hwaht I'vee heard.
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Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:28 AM
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What i'm saying, Sarah, is not to even bother with an IPod at all.  Do the
EBay thing, they're working on RockBox for the IRiver IFP700-series
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Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:06 PM
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> Well actually my sister recomended it as it is cheaper and doesn't have
> the
> vidio thingy like hers.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
> Sarah, yes.  So far as i know the IPod Nano will work with rockbox.
> However, I have to discourage you from buying one, unless you want an mp3
> player known to break in half.  Still interested?  I didn't thinhk so.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> speaking of mp3 players? Woll rockbox work on an Ipod Nanno? I am going
>> to
>> try and buy an  IPod so I can take my podcast comeciton, books and more
>> with
>> me on trips and flights or class.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Arthur Barney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>> Hi jack,
>> hear is the site.
>> http://www.rockbox.org/
>> Arthur Barney
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jack Conti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> Hi NIck where would you get the utility for rockbox since I would
>>> need the directory and file name information?   Have a great day.
>>> At 04:36 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
Number one it is about $399, i believe.  number two, it holds about 40
Gigs
of music, I believe for that price.  Number three, you can download a
utility, if you are using Rockbox on it, to record directory and file
name
voices for rockbox.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


 > Nick I have a couple of questions.
 >
 > 1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
 > 2.   how much deos it hold.
 >
 > 3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how
 > do you know where you are in the menuis?
 > thanks in advance.
 > At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
 >>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
 >>has a
 >>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which
 >>makes
 >>the
 >>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
 >>is
 >>something I look for always.
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 >>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 >>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
 >>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
 >>
 >>
 >> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of
 >> > the
 >> > best
 >> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
 >> > device
 >> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
 >> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes
 >> > you
 >> > can
 >> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
 >> > easier
 >> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on
 >> > one
 >> > unit.
 >> >
 >> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
 >> > recorder
 >> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.
 >> > It
 >> > is
 >> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte
 >> > of
 >> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a
 >> > very
 >> > easy
 >> > thing to do.
 >> >
 >> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just
 >> > say
 >> > these
 >> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both
 >> > of
 >> > them
 >> > regularly.
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > - Original Message -
 >> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. 

Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Fazil M.
I am still using old RealPlayer Plus who has been faithfully serving me for 
the last 6 or 7 long years.  I have not upgraded since then under the 
concern of non-accessibility or less or limited accessibility with Jaws 7.0 
and Windows-XP-Home.  How much am I behind and which version of Realplayer 
is more accessible than others?
Thanks!

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From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install


> Jonathan, I would agree.  I have tried the alternatives and they don't 
> play
> all the possible Real Player streams available at the high sound quality
> that Real Player offers.
>
> I just installed Real Player on a new computer about a month ago.  It is
> important to pay very close attention when installing the program, as it
> does ask if you want to install other things, like the Google toolbar. 
> this
> is totally optional, but a mindless click through installation will 
> install
> all of this junk.  also, I spent about an hour configuring the program 
> after
> installing it.  I deselected all file types except Real Player and 
> disabled
> other features that made Real Player the default player each time the
> computer started.  I also disabled the browser.
>
> A mindless instillation and lack of configuration I think will likely 
> result
> in disappointment by a blind user.  If this is done, there will be many
> hours of enjoyable listening.  besides the hurricane station, some other
> broadcasts are only available in Real Audio.  these include radio
> Netherlands, Air America Radio, and Bloomberg.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Realplayer, to install or not to install
>
>
>> Hi Lynn, I have installed RealPlayer on many systems and never seen a
>> negative consequence, at least not for many years. There was a time back
>> in
>> the late 90s where RealPlayer did install certain things that some
>> customers
>> objected to. Those days are long behind them. The install allows you to
>> have
>> good control over what file types it handles, and I think it's an
>> excellent
>> player.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Lynn Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 12:00 p.m.
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install
>>
>> Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather events, I
>> would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
>> http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install Real
>> Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of Real
>> Player
>> on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and the fact that I
>> just watched the installation of Real Player wreck several PC's at work
>> recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying it on this new and very
>> well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can do to avoid the
>> intrusiveness
>> of this program, the spyware it installs on your PC and its tendency to
>> just
>> muck things up horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real
>> Alternative, although the research I have done shows that this program
>> does
>> not do streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane City.
>> Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I would hate
>> like
>> heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any help with this 
>> ASAP.
>> If I did have to install RP, is there anything I can do to keep it from
>> causing mayhem on my system?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>
>>
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Winamp Upgrades Question

2006-09-10 Thread Wes Derby
Hello.

I uninstalled and reinstalled Winamp, and am still having the same issues with 
CD's as I described a couple weeks ago (regarding playing and ripping).  Other 
programs play the CDs fine without the crash, and CDEX will rip my CDs (but 
it's slower than Winamp Pro).  I don't know if upgrading to one of the new 
betas will help, but here's my question.

Obviously, I don't see any of these betas on Winamp's site, winamp.com.  If I 
install the beta, will I still have access to all the advanced Pro features, 
such as burning and faster ripping?

Thanks.


 
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Re: MMS?

2006-09-10 Thread David Tanner
I have a question to add to this question.

Our radio reading service "Minnesota Radio Talkingbook" has a link on its' 
webpage that will let one listen to the service on a live stream.  Because it 
uses a MMS earl a person using a PacMate or any other PDA using Windows Mobile 
cannot listen to this stream because Pocket Windows Media Player does not 
support streaming.  I am wondering if anyone would know of a player that would 
work on Windows Mobile 2003, Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition or Windows 
Mobile 2005 that would play this stream  If you want to check out the stream go 
to http://www.mnssb.org/rtblive/indes.htm  The password you'll need is "rtb" 
without the quotes.

I get questions about this every once in awhile and have not yet found a 
solution.  Sure hope someone here has an answer.  The head engineer at the 
station says they are using the Microsoft Encoder, in case that helps.


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To: "BlindTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:19 AM
Subject: MMS?


: In a URL such as:
: mms://helix1.argo.uwf.edu/wm/wuwf1.wma
: I gather the "MMS" refers to an alternative messaging protocol called 
: Multimedia Messaging System, originally designed for cellular phone 
: networks. But can anyone explain why all the URLs using the MMS protocol 
: seem to open Windows Media Player exclusively, regardless of the file type 
: extension and the program one has set to open that file type?
: 
: Thank you.
: 
: Blessed Be,
: 
: Dana
: 
: D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
Jonathan, I would agree.  I have tried the alternatives and they don't play 
all the possible Real Player streams available at the high sound quality 
that Real Player offers.

I just installed Real Player on a new computer about a month ago.  It is 
important to pay very close attention when installing the program, as it 
does ask if you want to install other things, like the Google toolbar.  this 
is totally optional, but a mindless click through installation will install 
all of this junk.  also, I spent about an hour configuring the program after 
installing it.  I deselected all file types except Real Player and disabled 
other features that made Real Player the default player each time the 
computer started.  I also disabled the browser.

A mindless instillation and lack of configuration I think will likely result 
in disappointment by a blind user.  If this is done, there will be many 
hours of enjoyable listening.  besides the hurricane station, some other 
broadcasts are only available in Real Audio.  these include radio 
Netherlands, Air America Radio, and Bloomberg.

Kelly


- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: Realplayer, to install or not to install


> Hi Lynn, I have installed RealPlayer on many systems and never seen a
> negative consequence, at least not for many years. There was a time back 
> in
> the late 90s where RealPlayer did install certain things that some 
> customers
> objected to. Those days are long behind them. The install allows you to 
> have
> good control over what file types it handles, and I think it's an 
> excellent
> player.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lynn Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 12:00 p.m.
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install
>
> Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather events, I
> would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
> http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install Real
> Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of Real 
> Player
> on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and the fact that I
> just watched the installation of Real Player wreck several PC's at work
> recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying it on this new and very
> well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can do to avoid the 
> intrusiveness
> of this program, the spyware it installs on your PC and its tendency to 
> just
> muck things up horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real
> Alternative, although the research I have done shows that this program 
> does
> not do streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane City.
> Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I would hate 
> like
> heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any help with this ASAP.
> If I did have to install RP, is there anything I can do to keep it from
> causing mayhem on my system?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>
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Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
the original report can be found here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17226460&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=welcome-to-ipod-city--name_page.html

If that url can't be selected because it is too long.  type the phrase 
"mirror welcome to ipod city" into google without the quotations.

Kelly

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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool


how did you varify this information?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
those white headphones on the train.'

Analysts warn that the i

need help with MP3 Splitter & Joiner

2006-09-10 Thread K4NKZ Jim Ardin
hi, I need some help with MP3 Splitter & Joiner!
someone on 1 of these list tolled me about this program, and I can't get it 
to work right!
who ever tolled me about this program, would you please email me off lists 
if you think you can help me use it right!
the only thing I am trying to do is:
load 1 mp3 track, and split it up in to x number of equal tracks. and I only 
get 1 track when ever I try it!I don't know what I am doing wrong!
thanks for any and all help
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computer tutorials

2006-09-10 Thread Chris Judd
If this is off topic for this list, I apologize and will not repost it. I 
thought by the description of this group that this may be of interest to 
members.



Tutorials

Please feel free to distribute the following to other lists and friends you 
think might be interested and have them e-mail me at



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I now have eleven tutorials out!!!



Here is the pricing info and what each one covers.



Pricing:

If you buy 1, 2, or 3, tutorials, it is $8 a piece, because these tutorials 
are $8 individually, but I am bundling them if people buy multiple ones, so 
they don't have to pay $8 all the time.



If someone buys 4 tutorials, they only pay $28 for all four instead of $32.



If someone buys 5 tutorials, they will pay $35 instead of $40.



If someone buys 6 tutorials, they will pay $42 instead of $48



If someone buys 7 tutorials, they pay $42 instead of $56.



If someone buys 8 tutorials, they pay $48 instead of $64.



If someone buys 9 tutorials, they pay $54 instead of $72



If someone buys all 10 tutorials, they pay $60 instead of $80.



If someone buys eleven tutorials, they pay $66 instead of $88



Here is what each one covers.



eBay: How to register, search, bid, buy, sell, resolve disputes, pay for 
items, etc.



PayPal: How to receive funds, send money, resolve disputes through the 
resolution center, pay for items, find stores that accept PayPal, etc.



Accessible games: Shows you how to download and play football, baseball, 
golf, monopoly, Life, etc.



Accessible Games Part 2: Shows you how to play Grizzly Gulch, Dissent Into 
Madness, Whoop Ass and racing game. I will also cover how to download from 
audiogames.net and give you some additional sites where you can go to 
download games.



Accessible web sites: Covers sites that some blind people have said are hard 
to navigate such as free cycle, craigslist, Pollstar.



Jobs and Employment tutorial: Shows you various sites where you can go to 
search for jobs. Also demonstrates NFB job line. Shows you samples of 
resumes, cover letters, follow up letters, CV's, etc. Gives you tips for 
interviewing and how to make a lasting impression so you have a better 
chance of getting the job. My girlfriend is a college graduate, and she 
majored in Mass Communications with an emphasis in Theory and Rhetoric, got 
a minor in English and got two certificates in writing. She took several job 
type courses in college and several writing courses, and she helps me with 
this tutorial as far as the resumes and other writing samples are concerned.



Also in this tutorial, I discuss attending a job readiness program, taking 
aptitude tests, interest tests, different search options in the program, 
etc.



Winamp: This tutorial will discuss the many features of the free audio 
player Winamp and what you can do with it. Topics will include: key board 
short cut commands, using the play list editor, using the Winamp library to 
find stations, using book marks, etc.



Replay AV: This program is designed to record audio streams and radio 
programs from the net and save them to your hard drive. Good for not missing 
your favorite program if you're not home. Topics include: searching for 
streams by category, by show name, by radio station etc. I also cover how to 
repeatedly schedule programs, schedule one time only airings, etc.



Outlook express: covers the various menus of the program and how you can use 
each one. Covers message rules, message receipts, folders and arranging your 
e-mail, etc.



Microsoft word: Since my girlfriend has used Microsoft in college, I let her 
do this tutorial since she has used it much more than I have. She covers 
fonts, bulleting, underlining, bold, centering, and the different things you 
can do while writing a paper, an outline, etc.



College tutorial

Discusses several strategies for your IPE, several scholarship resources, 
getting involved with campus life, getting help with essays and research 
papers, and other aspects of college





Methods:

I can either burn the tutorials on CD and send them out your way, or even 
faster, I can just e-mail them in zip files to you and you can open the 
files and hear them instantly. I will admit that I am sometimes a little 
slow in getting the CD's out depending on when I get transportation to the 
post office and when I can get to go. And lately many people have wanted it 
on CD and I have to go buy more when that happens. If you do want the 
tutorials on CD, please specify whether you wish to have mp3 CD or audio CD.



Payment:

I prefer PayPal, but will also accept check or money order.

If using pay pal, please send payments to:

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Re: 3GP player?

2006-09-10 Thread Steve Pattison
For information about the 3GP format go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GP.

At 11:49 AM 11/09/2006, you wrote:
>I ran across an MP3 player that plays 3GP stuff. Is that an audio
>format? I remember CD extractor 9.0 could convert to it, but I'm not
>really sure what it is. Anyone help?

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3GP player?

2006-09-10 Thread Brandon Hicks
Hi all,
I ran across an MP3 player that plays 3GP stuff. Is that an audio 
format? I remember CD extractor 9.0 could convert to it, but I'm not 
really sure what it is. Anyone help?
Thanks
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RE: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Lynn, I have installed RealPlayer on many systems and never seen a
negative consequence, at least not for many years. There was a time back in
the late 90s where RealPlayer did install certain things that some customers
objected to. Those days are long behind them. The install allows you to have
good control over what file types it handles, and I think it's an excellent
player.  

-Original Message-
From: Lynn Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 12:00 p.m.
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install

Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather events, I
would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install Real
Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of Real Player
on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and the fact that I
just watched the installation of Real Player wreck several PC's at work
recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying it on this new and very
well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can do to avoid the intrusiveness
of this program, the spyware it installs on your PC and its tendency to just
muck things up horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real
Alternative, although the research I have done shows that this program does
not do streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane City.
Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I would hate like
heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any help with this ASAP.
If I did have to install RP, is there anything I can do to keep it from
causing mayhem on my system?

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RE: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Tim Grady
It wasn't Realplayer that messed up your system, it was probably you.  I
haven't seen anything like what you are talking about in at least 5 years.
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:00 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install

Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather events, I
would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install Real
Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of Real Player
on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and the fact that I
just watched the installation of Real Player wreck several PC's at work
recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying it on this new and very
well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can do to avoid the intrusiveness
of this program, the spyware it installs on your PC and its tendency to just
muck things up horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real
Alternative, although the research I have done shows that this program does
not do streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane City.
Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I would hate like
heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any help with this ASAP.
If I did have to install RP, is there anything I can do to keep it from
causing mayhem on my system?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.


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Re: Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Lynn,
don't install RealPlayer, I have send an alternative Player to your e-mail.
Arthur Barney
- Original Message - 
From: "Lynn Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Realplayer, to install or not to install


> Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather
> events, I would like to take advantage of the live coverage from
> http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install
> Real Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of
> Real Player on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and
> the fact that I just watched the installation of Real Player wreck
> several PC's at work recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying
> it on this new and very well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can
> do to avoid the intrusiveness of this program, the spyware it
> installs on your PC and its tendency to just muck things up
> horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real Alternative,
> although the research I have done shows that this program does not do
> streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane
> City.  Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I
> would hate like heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any
> help with this ASAP.  If I did have to install RP, is there anything
> I can do to keep it from causing mayhem on my system?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>
>
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Realplayer, to install or not to install

2006-09-10 Thread Lynn Schneider
Having a very strong interest in hurricanes and severe weather 
events, I would like to take advantage of the live coverage from 
http://www.hurricanecity.com.  However, this requires that I install 
Real Player on my PC.  Considering the fact that the installation of 
Real Player on my previous home PC messed my system up terribly, and 
the fact that I just watched the installation of Real Player wreck 
several PC's at work recently, I'm not feeling very good about trying 
it on this new and very well-functioning PC.  Is there anything I can 
do to avoid the intrusiveness of this program, the spyware it 
installs on your PC and its tendency to just muck things up 
horribly?  I am wondering specifically about Real Alternative, 
although the research I have done shows that this program does not do 
streaming audio, which is what I would need for Hurricane 
City.  Actually, since Florence is going to hit Bermuda soon and I 
would hate like heck to miss a good hurricane, I would appreciate any 
help with this ASAP.  If I did have to install RP, is there anything 
I can do to keep it from causing mayhem on my system?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.


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Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread Doc
how did you varify this information?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
those white headphones on the train.'

Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five
years ago its sales graph showed a consistent upward curve, culminating in
a period around last Christmas that saw a record 14 million sold. But
sales fell to 8.5 million in the following quarter, and down to 8.1
million in the most recent three-month period. Wall Street is reportedly
starting to worry that the bubble will burst.

Tomi Ahonen, a technology brand expert and author, said: 'For the
first time the iPod has had two consecutive

Re: Setting Up internet stations on Web Site

2006-09-10 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi.  Check out Jeff Haris, the ultra guy at
http://www.ultrahost.us
He has very affordable rates on everything from Shoutcast servers, to 
domain registrations and dedicated servers for websites. Jeff's a good guy.






At 05:44 PM 9/10/2006, you wrote:
>Hello Steve!
>
>In your response to my question about setting up internet stations 
>on a web site, you mentioned a service provided by a guy name "Jeff 
>Harris", the Ultra Guy (or Checkman), who has a suite of services 
>along the lines I am talking about.  If possible, could you give me 
>the URL to his site?
>
>James Robinson  iet of
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Setting Up internet stations on Web Site

2006-09-10 Thread Jardata Mail Services
Hello Steve!

In your response to my question about setting up internet stations on a web 
site, you mentioned a service provided by a guy name "Jeff Harris", the Ultra 
Guy (or Checkman), who has a suite of services along the lines I am talking 
about.  If possible, could you give me the URL to his site?

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Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread tj
with regard to that, that article is horidly out of date, that information 
came out last spring, and apple since  investigated and inforced better 
working condissions oin the factory, which is  one thing i must give them 
credit for, as apple has been  notably proactive on employee rights. A 50 
hour work week  maximum  has been inforced with a requirement of 2 days off 
a week, (10 hour days) with breaks. I'm no supporter of the ipod, but i feel 
its important to give credit where its due when it comes to these issues.

tj
- Original Message - 
From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool


Death to the IPod, thank you very much...That's one device I really hate,
and the thing about using chinese workers in those conditions...well...May
explain, for instance, why IPod Nanos break in half.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to 

Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice Cast, and other servers on personal web site o

2006-09-10 Thread David La Caille




and what is his address Jeff "The Ultra Guy" Harris and his fine suite of
> > servicesDavid
Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/highenergyfm
or take a listen http://www.live365.com/stations/highenergyfm





>From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Subject: Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice 
>Cast,and other servers on personal web site o
>Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:40:23 -0500
>
>Well, the bandwidth on hosting sites is usually measured by a monthly rate.
>You would need a lot of gigs of bandwidth a month to stream.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:46 AM
>Subject: Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice 
>Cast,and
>other servers on personal web site o
>
>
> > Firstly, 250k bandwidth is grossly insufficient. Figure you'll want to
> > broadcast at a minimum of 56kbps, rounded up, call it 64.  That means
> > you'll only have two, maybe three more blocks of 64kbps bandwidth to
> > let others listen to your station. Of course, if choose not to stream
> > live, that's another 64k block that a fourth user could use to listen
> > in with, but that's still not enough bandwidth. Cut thall of the above
> > in half if you want to go 128.
> >
> > The other issue is, you'll need some software running on the remote
> > system to actually do the streaming.  The provider of space for your
> > web site may or may not be down with this--in other words, they may
> > not let you do it.
> >
> > Oh waitaminit, I just re-read your message, you said they said it'd be
> > OK to run Icecast or something like it on their side.   Remember that
> > if you do this, it'll in all likelihood be in a Unix environment, so
> > if you're not familiar with Unix basic concepts, like shells and text
> > editors and Telnet clients, you may have a bit of a learning curve to
> > conquer.  Not everything is doable remotely and deliverable via FTP,
> > although most of your admin functions will be.
> >
> > If running an Internet audio stream is something you really wanna do,
> > may I recommend, and not without prejudice (thanks for the promo
> > check, man!--ha ha), Jeff "The Ultra Guy" Harris and his fine suite of
> > services which'll give you exactly what you need--disk space,
> > bandwidth, and the ability to run your own software from the server
> > side. Then all you have to do is upload new material and playlists
> > every other now and then to keep the content fresh.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:41:21 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >>Hello List!
> >>
> >>I hope this is not too farfetched or outrageous, but I would like to 
>know
> >>if I could put my internet radio station on one of my personal web sites
> >>(a Startlogic Web Site of 15 Gigs in size).  I was wondering if I could
> >>upload my Shoutcast, Icecast, Windows Media,  or Simplecast or even a 
>Real
> >>Server to my web site and install them up there intheir respective 
>Program
> >>Files directory and subdirectories?  I figure they do it on Audiorealm 
>and
> >>Streammadness and others, so why can't I do the same.  I contacted
> >>Startlogic and they told me I have something like 250 k of bandwidth on 
>my
> >>web site.  I actually have purchased four 15 gig web sites over the 
>years
> >>and two of them are pretty much empty.  How would I play my music from 
>my
> >>computer through my web site.  I should be able to use all of that
> >>bandwidth for something.  I am sure I could connect my music folder
> >>through a plug-in to the sites, with the proper links.  The reason I am
> >>considering this move is because I tried to use
> >>Spacialnet's streaming service, but just couldn't get it set up and they
> >>are a bit slow in providing tech support to me.  They did actually set 
>up
> >>the account, but I can't gain access to the server file to configure it.
> >>It is just too much trouble for me to deal with sites that don't work or
> >>freeze when I use them.  therefore, I am going to try to do it myself.  
>I
> >>just want to know from you experts on technology and audio whether or 
>not
> >>I can do it relatively cheap.
> >>
> >>Also, am I correct in believeing that web sites are set up pretty much
> >>like regular PC systems, with directories, etc. and all I have to do is
> >>know how to do folders and links?  I hope so.
> >>
> >>Anyway, I figure I can dedicate one 15 gig web site to a station or two 
>if
> >>this is permissible.  I asked Startlogic and they said it is possible to
> >>do and I can put anything I want up there that is proper and legal.  I
> >>would think those services like For-The-People, VIPconduit, and Audio 
>Tips
> >>use separate web sites for their chat service and they allow audio 
>through
> >>them too.  I am just curious and interested.
> >>
> >>One final thing on the question:  Now,

Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread John Moore
Do they really? I had no idea they broke. What a crappy device. And
the way they treat those workers is wrong. I gave up on trying to use
IPod Shuffle and now just use a satellite radio.

On 9/10/06, Nick G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Death to the IPod, thank you very much...That's one device I really hate,
> and the thing about using chinese workers in those conditions...well...May
> explain, for instance, why IPod Nanos break in half.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool
>
>
> The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
> weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
> people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
> health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
> workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
> a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
> they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
> still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
> of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
> overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
> How "cool" is that?
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
> The Observer [UK]
>
> Sunday September 10, 2006
>
>
> Why the iPod is losing its cool
>
> Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
> to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
> common to be cutting edge
>
> David Smith, technology correspondent
>
>
>
> The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
> search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
> gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
> live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
> of the consumer icons of the Western world.
>
> The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
> Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
> Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
> 'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
> disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
> simply have become too common to be cool.
>
> On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
> Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
> fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
> bin of history.
>
> Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
> yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
> devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
> capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
> half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
> industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
> a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
> an iPod with a mobile phone.
>
> Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
> cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
> equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
> actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
> to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
> forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
> 25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
> far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
> for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
> some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
> 'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
> the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
> conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
> warranty ends.
>
> 'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
> overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
> In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
> have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
> consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
> of the package to set it up.'
>
> She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
> success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
> those white headphones on the train.'
>
> Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five
> years ago its sales graph showed a cons

Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice Cast, and other servers on personal web site o

2006-09-10 Thread Brent Harding
Well, the bandwidth on hosting sites is usually measured by a monthly rate. 
You would need a lot of gigs of bandwidth a month to stream.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice Cast,and 
other servers on personal web site o


> Firstly, 250k bandwidth is grossly insufficient. Figure you'll want to
> broadcast at a minimum of 56kbps, rounded up, call it 64.  That means
> you'll only have two, maybe three more blocks of 64kbps bandwidth to
> let others listen to your station. Of course, if choose not to stream
> live, that's another 64k block that a fourth user could use to listen
> in with, but that's still not enough bandwidth. Cut thall of the above
> in half if you want to go 128.
>
> The other issue is, you'll need some software running on the remote
> system to actually do the streaming.  The provider of space for your
> web site may or may not be down with this--in other words, they may
> not let you do it.
>
> Oh waitaminit, I just re-read your message, you said they said it'd be
> OK to run Icecast or something like it on their side.   Remember that
> if you do this, it'll in all likelihood be in a Unix environment, so
> if you're not familiar with Unix basic concepts, like shells and text
> editors and Telnet clients, you may have a bit of a learning curve to
> conquer.  Not everything is doable remotely and deliverable via FTP,
> although most of your admin functions will be.
>
> If running an Internet audio stream is something you really wanna do,
> may I recommend, and not without prejudice (thanks for the promo
> check, man!--ha ha), Jeff "The Ultra Guy" Harris and his fine suite of
> services which'll give you exactly what you need--disk space,
> bandwidth, and the ability to run your own software from the server
> side. Then all you have to do is upload new material and playlists
> every other now and then to keep the content fresh.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:41:21 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>Hello List!
>>
>>I hope this is not too farfetched or outrageous, but I would like to know 
>>if I could put my internet radio station on one of my personal web sites 
>>(a Startlogic Web Site of 15 Gigs in size).  I was wondering if I could 
>>upload my Shoutcast, Icecast, Windows Media,  or Simplecast or even a Real 
>>Server to my web site and install them up there intheir respective Program 
>>Files directory and subdirectories?  I figure they do it on Audiorealm and 
>>Streammadness and others, so why can't I do the same.  I contacted 
>>Startlogic and they told me I have something like 250 k of bandwidth on my 
>>web site.  I actually have purchased four 15 gig web sites over the years 
>>and two of them are pretty much empty.  How would I play my music from my 
>>computer through my web site.  I should be able to use all of that 
>>bandwidth for something.  I am sure I could connect my music folder 
>>through a plug-in to the sites, with the proper links.  The reason I am 
>>considering this move is because I tried to use
>>Spacialnet's streaming service, but just couldn't get it set up and they 
>>are a bit slow in providing tech support to me.  They did actually set up 
>>the account, but I can't gain access to the server file to configure it. 
>>It is just too much trouble for me to deal with sites that don't work or 
>>freeze when I use them.  therefore, I am going to try to do it myself.  I 
>>just want to know from you experts on technology and audio whether or not 
>>I can do it relatively cheap.
>>
>>Also, am I correct in believeing that web sites are set up pretty much 
>>like regular PC systems, with directories, etc. and all I have to do is 
>>know how to do folders and links?  I hope so.
>>
>>Anyway, I figure I can dedicate one 15 gig web site to a station or two if 
>>this is permissible.  I asked Startlogic and they said it is possible to 
>>do and I can put anything I want up there that is proper and legal.  I 
>>would think those services like For-The-People, VIPconduit, and Audio Tips 
>>use separate web sites for their chat service and they allow audio through 
>>them too.  I am just curious and interested.
>>
>>One final thing on the question:  Now, I'd like to use separate servers 
>>and plug-ins for each station that I use--if I decide to have two or 
>>three.  How do I get multiple copies of the Shoutcast Server?  They 
>>mention you can copy the file to another one and rename it.  What would I 
>>name a second Shoutcast Server?  Could I just add 2 or b to the normal 
>>name.
>>
>>Also, would this be the same with the Shoutcast or Sam Encoder Plug-ins. 
>>I realize you can install or setup multiple servers with Sam Encoders and 
>>with the latest Shoutcast Plug-in.  With the Shoutcast Plug-in (being I 
>>use the older version), could I just copy the file to another name and 
>>save it as 

Re: Wh not the same media player.

2006-09-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
Well i have done that but when hitting links for streams which used to be 
played by foobar windowsmedia plays them instead.
To me its really frustrating.
/Andewrs.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arthur Barney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Wh not the same media player.


> Hi Anders,
> highlight the file that you want to play,
> press Alt, arrow down to open with submenu, right arrow, and highlight the
> player you want, and press inter.
> Arthur Barney
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:23 PM
> Subject: Wh not the same media player.
>
>
>> HelHello!
>> WHen i open an mp3 file from a webpage it is opened by windowsmedia 
>> player
>> which i really dont want.
>> But when i download it to my hard drive and open it its opened by
>> foobar2000.
>> Can this be changed anywere?
>> I have set foobar2000 to become the default player for mp3 files.
>> /Anders.
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Re: Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread Nick G
Death to the IPod, thank you very much...That's one device I really hate, 
and the thing about using chinese workers in those conditions...well...May 
explain, for instance, why IPod Nanos break in half.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Why the iPod is losing its cool


The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress.
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
those white headphones on the train.'

Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five
years ago its sales graph showed a consistent upward curve, culminating in
a period around last Christmas that saw a record 14 million sold. But
sales fell to 8.5 million in the following quarter, and down to 8.1
million in the most recent three-month period. Wall Street is reportedly
starting to worry that the bubble will burst.

Tomi Ahonen, a technology brand expert and author, said: 'For the
first time the iPod has had two consecut

Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-10 Thread Nick G
What i'm saying, Sarah, is not to even bother with an IPod at all.  Do the 
EBay thing, they're working on RockBox for the IRiver IFP700-series
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> Well actually my sister recomended it as it is cheaper and doesn't have 
> the
> vidio thingy like hers.
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>
> Sarah, yes.  So far as i know the IPod Nano will work with rockbox.
> However, I have to discourage you from buying one, unless you want an mp3
> player known to break in half.  Still interested?  I didn't thinhk so.
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>> speaking of mp3 players? Woll rockbox work on an Ipod Nanno? I am going 
>> to
>> try and buy an  IPod so I can take my podcast comeciton, books and more
>> with
>> me on trips and flights or class.
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:53 PM
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>> Hi jack,
>> hear is the site.
>> http://www.rockbox.org/
>> Arthur Barney
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>> From: "Jack Conti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:55 AM
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>>> Hi NIck where would you get the utility for rockbox since I would
>>> need the directory and file name information?   Have a great day.
>>> At 04:36 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
Number one it is about $399, i believe.  number two, it holds about 40
Gigs
of music, I believe for that price.  Number three, you can download a
utility, if you are using Rockbox on it, to record directory and file
name
voices for rockbox.
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 > Nick I have a couple of questions.
 >
 > 1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
 > 2.   how much deos it hold.
 >
 > 3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how
 > do you know where you are in the menuis?
 > thanks in advance.
 > At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
 >>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
 >>has a
 >>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which
 >>makes
 >>the
 >>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
 >>is
 >>something I look for always.
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 >>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 >>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
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 >>
 >>
 >> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of
 >> > the
 >> > best
 >> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
 >> > device
 >> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
 >> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes
 >> > you
 >> > can
 >> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
 >> > easier
 >> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on
 >> > one
 >> > unit.
 >> >
 >> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
 >> > recorder
 >> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.
 >> > It
 >> > is
 >> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte
 >> > of
 >> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a
 >> > very
 >> > easy
 >> > thing to do.
 >> >
 >> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just 
 >> > say
 >> > these
 >> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both
 >> > of
 >> > them
 >> > regularly.
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > - Original Message -
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 >> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
 >> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
 >> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > : Yes,
 >> > :
 >> > :
 >> > :
 >> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
 >> > :
 

Why the iPod is losing its cool

2006-09-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
The iPod lost its cool for me when I read the Sunday Mirror expose a few 
weeks ago.  The story told of a place it called Ipod city where 200,000 
people work and live with factories, dormitories, restaurants, grocers, and 
health clinics.  It even has its own transit system.  The article said 
workers for Apple assemble iPods by hand standing up at tables for 14 hours 
a day.  They are paid much less then other factory workers in China.  If 
they try to stretch their arms or legs after many hours of standing nearly 
still, Apple's minders force them to do push ups and humiliate them in front 
of other workers.  The offending worker is then slapped with mandatory 
overtime, toiling until they virtually collapse from exhaustion and stress. 
How "cool" is that?

Kelly





The Observer [UK]

Sunday September 10, 2006


Why the iPod is losing its cool

Apple has added ever more extras to its digital music-player in a bid
to stem falling sales. But fears are rising that the device is now too
common to be cutting edge

David Smith, technology correspondent



The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in
search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd
gathering at the conference centre in London's Blackfriars this week for a
live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one
of the consumer icons of the Western world.

The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay's
Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen.
Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a
'backlash' and of the iPod 'wilting away before our eyes'. Most
disastrously, Apple's signature pocket device with white earphones may
simply have become too common to be cool.

On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve
Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay
fears that it could follow Sony's tape-playing Walkman into the recycling
bin of history.

Jobs is widely expected to announce the most ambitious iPod service
yet - the sale of feature-length films via the internet for viewing on the
devices, which may receive an expanded 'widescreen' and improved storage
capacity. If downloading movies from a computer to an iPod proves even
half as revolutionary as it did for music, the multibillion-pound DVD
industry could be quaking. There are rumours that Jobs will also announce
a long expected 'iPhone', combining the music function and sleek style of
an iPod with a mobile phone.

Industry-watchers warn that the iPod could soon be regarded by teenage
cynics as their 'parents' player' because a mass-market product rarely
equates with edgy fashionability. Although it has sold nearly 60 million
actual iPods and a billion downloaded songs worldwide, cracks have begun
to appear in the edifice. The Zandl Group, a New York-based trends
forecaster which regularly interviews a panel of 3,000 consumers aged
25-35, recently picked up its first significant criticisms. 'The iPod is
far and away the most popular tech gadget with our panellists - however,
for the first time we are hearing negative feedback about the iPod from
some panellists,' said the organisation's spokeswoman, Carla Avruch.
'Panellists cite that the batteries are not replaceable, so when they die
the entire player must be replaced,' she said. 'We have heard from some
conspiracy theorists that the batteries are made to die soon after the
warranty ends.

'Other complaints are that iTunes [Apple's online music store] is
overpriced and the format is not easily transferred on to other players.
In our ethnography interviews, some long-time iPod-users told us that they
have stopped updating their iPods because it's too much work, while other
consumers who had bought iPods more recently had not even taken theirs out
of the package to set it up.'

She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own
success: 'Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod - everyone has
those white headphones on the train.'

Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five
years ago its sales graph showed a consistent upward curve, culminating in
a period around last Christmas that saw a record 14 million sold. But
sales fell to 8.5 million in the following quarter, and down to 8.1
million in the most recent three-month period. Wall Street is reportedly
starting to worry that the bubble will burst.

Tomi Ahonen, a technology brand expert and author, said: 'For the
first time the iPod has had two consecutive falls after 17 quarters of
growth. If I were the manager, I would be wanting my people to explain
what is going on. The iPod is wilting away before our eyes.'

He cited new mobile phones with improved MP3 players as the cause of
the iPod's dwindling appeal. 'In 2005 all the big phone manufacturers
released phones that play music. Phones are out

Re: Setting up internet Radio Station, with Shoutcast, Ice Cast, and other servers on personal web site o

2006-09-10 Thread Steve Matzura
Firstly, 250k bandwidth is grossly insufficient. Figure you'll want to
broadcast at a minimum of 56kbps, rounded up, call it 64.  That means
you'll only have two, maybe three more blocks of 64kbps bandwidth to
let others listen to your station. Of course, if choose not to stream
live, that's another 64k block that a fourth user could use to listen
in with, but that's still not enough bandwidth. Cut thall of the above
in half if you want to go 128.

The other issue is, you'll need some software running on the remote
system to actually do the streaming.  The provider of space for your
web site may or may not be down with this--in other words, they may
not let you do it.

Oh waitaminit, I just re-read your message, you said they said it'd be
OK to run Icecast or something like it on their side.   Remember that
if you do this, it'll in all likelihood be in a Unix environment, so
if you're not familiar with Unix basic concepts, like shells and text
editors and Telnet clients, you may have a bit of a learning curve to
conquer.  Not everything is doable remotely and deliverable via FTP,
although most of your admin functions will be.

If running an Internet audio stream is something you really wanna do,
may I recommend, and not without prejudice (thanks for the promo
check, man!--ha ha), Jeff "The Ultra Guy" Harris and his fine suite of
services which'll give you exactly what you need--disk space,
bandwidth, and the ability to run your own software from the server
side. Then all you have to do is upload new material and playlists
every other now and then to keep the content fresh.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:41:21 -0700, you wrote:

>Hello List!
>
>I hope this is not too farfetched or outrageous, but I would like to know if I 
>could put my internet radio station on one of my personal web sites (a 
>Startlogic Web Site of 15 Gigs in size).  I was wondering if I could upload my 
>Shoutcast, Icecast, Windows Media,  or Simplecast or even a Real Server to my 
>web site and install them up there intheir respective Program Files directory 
>and subdirectories?  I figure they do it on Audiorealm and Streammadness and 
>others, so why can't I do the same.  I contacted Startlogic and they told me I 
>have something like 250 k of bandwidth on my web site.  I actually have 
>purchased four 15 gig web sites over the years and two of them are pretty much 
>empty.  How would I play my music from my computer through my web site.  I 
>should be able to use all of that bandwidth for something.  I am sure I could 
>connect my music folder through a plug-in to the sites, with the proper links. 
> The reason I am considering this move is because I tried to use
>Spacialnet's streaming service, but just couldn't get it set up and they are a 
>bit slow in providing tech support to me.  They did actually set up the 
>account, but I can't gain access to the server file to configure it.  It is 
>just too much trouble for me to deal with sites that don't work or freeze when 
>I use them.  therefore, I am going to try to do it myself.  I just want to 
>know from you experts on technology and audio whether or not I can do it 
>relatively cheap.
>
>Also, am I correct in believeing that web sites are set up pretty much like 
>regular PC systems, with directories, etc. and all I have to do is know how to 
>do folders and links?  I hope so.
>
>Anyway, I figure I can dedicate one 15 gig web site to a station or two if 
>this is permissible.  I asked Startlogic and they said it is possible to do 
>and I can put anything I want up there that is proper and legal.  I would 
>think those services like For-The-People, VIPconduit, and Audio Tips use 
>separate web sites for their chat service and they allow audio through them 
>too.  I am just curious and interested.
>
>One final thing on the question:  Now, I'd like to use separate servers and 
>plug-ins for each station that I use--if I decide to have two or three.  How 
>do I get multiple copies of the Shoutcast Server?  They mention you can copy 
>the file to another one and rename it.  What would I name a second Shoutcast 
>Server?  Could I just add 2 or b to the normal name.  
>
>Also, would this be the same with the Shoutcast or Sam Encoder Plug-ins.  I 
>realize you can install or setup multiple servers with Sam Encoders and with 
>the latest Shoutcast Plug-in.  With the Shoutcast Plug-in (being I use the 
>older version), could I just copy the file to another name and save it as 
>often as I need to?  A separate Shoutcast Plug-in for each station:  Right or 
>Wrong?
>
>
>Thanks for listening to my plan and giving me your support and information.
>
>James Robinson
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Media laptops

2006-09-10 Thread Brandon Hicks
Hi all,
A couple friends have just gotten HP Pavilion laptops. They came with 
the ability to start up and play DVDs but not boot entirely. My question 
is can that feature be added to any laptop? Like is it a particular type 
of bios and having the quickplay program, or is it something in the 
hardware somewhere? I'd like to add that to my Acer Aspire laptop.

Thanks
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MMS?

2006-09-10 Thread Dana S. Leslie
In a URL such as:
mms://helix1.argo.uwf.edu/wm/wuwf1.wma
I gather the "MMS" refers to an alternative messaging protocol called 
Multimedia Messaging System, originally designed for cellular phone 
networks. But can anyone explain why all the URLs using the MMS protocol 
seem to open Windows Media Player exclusively, regardless of the file type 
extension and the program one has set to open that file type?

Thank you.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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Re: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.

2006-09-10 Thread Jim Noseworthy
For those who wan't to know:

RePlay AV definitely does not work with tuner cards.

Cheers.


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> Arthur, thanks for this, I'll give the prog a go.
> Any hints/tips, you can provide, on configuring and using the program with 
> a
> screen reader Jaws?.
> Billy
>
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>> Hi TrueBlue,
>> you can get at this site.
>> http://www.applian.com/replay-av/index.php
>> Arthur Barney
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Re: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.

2006-09-10 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi TrueBlue,
works with Jaws out of the box.
Arthur Barney
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> Arthur, thanks for this, I'll give the prog a go.
> Any hints/tips, you can provide, on configuring and using the program with 
> a
> screen reader Jaws?.
> Billy
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Arthur Barney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.
>
>
>> Hi TrueBlue,
>> you can get at this site.
>> http://www.applian.com/replay-av/index.php
>> Arthur Barney
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "TrueBlue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.
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>> > Hi, where can i get reply av.
>> > Billy
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>> > Subject: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.
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Re: Replay AV and TV tuner cards.

2006-09-10 Thread TrueBlue
Arthur, thanks for this, I'll give the prog a go.
Any hints/tips, you can provide, on configuring and using the program with a
screen reader Jaws?.
Billy


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> Hi TrueBlue,
> you can get at this site.
> http://www.applian.com/replay-av/index.php
> Arthur Barney
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Re: Soft Synth Question.

2006-09-10 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Gang:

Can anyone recommend a good accessible keyboard controler?

Thanks all over the place gang.


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> for classical music, you need a real bood piano such as synthogy hyvory
> or native instr piano, or steinberg piano, etc. etc.
>
> there are also paying giga studio sound font, such as bigas giga steinway 
> grand piano, etc.
> they sound pretty good in my opinion too.
>
> for a more pop oriented usage, the pianos available in steinberg 
> hypersonic or edirol super quartet sound just fine for me.
> and these softsynth do lot lot more than the piano sound itself
>
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>>My question is, is there a high quality soft synth Piano program that I
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Re: Soft Synth Question.

2006-09-10 Thread Arnaud de Bonald
for classical music, you need a real bood piano such as synthogy hyvory 
or native instr piano, or steinberg piano, etc. etc.

there are also paying giga studio sound font, such as bigas giga steinway grand 
piano, etc.
they sound pretty good in my opinion too.

for a more pop oriented usage, the pianos available in steinberg hypersonic or 
edirol super quartet sound just fine for me.
and these softsynth do lot lot more than the piano sound itself 



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On 08/09/2006 at 13:09 Jim Noseworthy wrote:

>Hi Folks:
>
>I am considering the purchase of an M-Audio key station pro 88 controler.
>
>My question is, is there a high quality soft synth Piano program that I
>can purchase that would allow me to use this controler. If so, what is the
>name of the software and what would be the cost.
>
>If someone could email me off list concerning these questions, I would
>appreciate it all over the place.
>
>Thanks Gang. 
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