Re: file merging with goldwave
I have not run into any problems unless the two files came from two separate sources. For example I rcorded one and someone else recorded the other. ** Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:29 PM Subject: file merging with goldwave Just a quick question fore all you audio files as I'm one myself. Do you lose phadelity when you reopen files to murge them with goldwave? I murged two sides of a vinal album so it would all play as one file and it still sounds ok to me. Thanks fore any opinions on this. Regards, Joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 4/29/2007 6:30 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mixing audio on a single channel with sound forge
Hi, how can I mix audio only on a single channel with sf8? For switching bethween channels I press tab, but when I save the file it returns to the original state. What can I do? I've also another question... I can't use the effects included in sound forge8. For example I click on chorus, and... nothing, I can't see the presets window. Can you help me? Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LimeWire
A friend has recommended that I try LimeWire, a file sharing program, but I don't recall any discussion on this list of the program. Can I assume that it's inaccessible? Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Tony Swartz Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: LimeWire
I'm not sure about the accessibility, however, you need to be careful of undesirable files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Swartz Sent: 30 April 2007 11:51 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: LimeWire A friend has recommended that I try LimeWire, a file sharing program, but I don't recall any discussion on this list of the program. Can I assume that it's inaccessible? Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Tony Swartz Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ** IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email transmission is privileged, confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of City College, Birmingham. If you have received this message in error please notify City College immediately by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] All messages passing through this gateway are checked for viruses but we strongly recommend that you check for viruses using your own virus scanner as City College will not take responsibility for any damage caused as a result of virus infection. * Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LimeWire
yes... is written in java and is completely inaccessible. - Original Message - From: George Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: RE: LimeWire I'm not sure about the accessibility, however, you need to be careful of undesirable files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Swartz Sent: 30 April 2007 11:51 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: LimeWire A friend has recommended that I try LimeWire, a file sharing program, but I don't recall any discussion on this list of the program. Can I assume that it's inaccessible? Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Tony Swartz Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ** IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email transmission is privileged, confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of City College, Birmingham. If you have received this message in error please notify City College immediately by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] All messages passing through this gateway are checked for viruses but we strongly recommend that you check for viruses using your own virus scanner as City College will not take responsibility for any damage caused as a result of virus infection. * Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6.30 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file merging with goldwave
But if the two files are already lossily compressed, you will lose quality from uncompressing and recompressing them. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Doc wrote: I have not run into any problems unless the two files came from two separate sources. For example I rcorded one and someone else recorded the other. ** Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:29 PM Subject: file merging with goldwave Just a quick question fore all you audio files as I'm one myself. Do you lose phadelity when you reopen files to murge them with goldwave? I murged two sides of a vinal album so it would all play as one file and it still sounds ok to me. Thanks fore any opinions on this. Regards, Joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file merging with goldwave
Personally I didn't notice any difference when merging files. I think this is quite a nice feature! - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: file merging with goldwave Just a quick question fore all you audio files as I'm one myself. Do you lose phadelity when you reopen files to murge them with goldwave? I murged two sides of a vinal album so it would all play as one file and it still sounds ok to me. Thanks fore any opinions on this. Regards, Joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file merging with goldwave
hi guys how do i merge files with goldwave and sound forge? Brandon - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: Re: file merging with goldwave Personally I didn't notice any difference when merging files. I think this is quite a nice feature! - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: file merging with goldwave Just a quick question fore all you audio files as I'm one myself. Do you lose phadelity when you reopen files to murge them with goldwave? I murged two sides of a vinal album so it would all play as one file and it still sounds ok to me. Thanks fore any opinions on this. Regards, Joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LimeWire
As far as I know. Limewire is totally inaccessible. I don't know of anyone who has made it work. Best, Helena. - Original Message - From: Tony Swartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 6:51 AM Subject: LimeWire A friend has recommended that I try LimeWire, a file sharing program, but I don't recall any discussion on this list of the program. Can I assume that it's inaccessible? Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Tony Swartz Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JLC Internet TV
Have any of you contacted the JLC company to explain some of the access issues that you are having with the software? Did you get a reply from them? What are the access issues you are having with JLC Internet TV software? I emailed the company to see if they will respond tom my messsage. I told them I will make a donation if all is made better with the software. Petro Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for an Audacity tutorial
Hi, To fix the delay after the event, you can time-shift tracks with respect to each other. This is described in the Jaws guide for audacity 1.3.2 referred to in a previous post. In the advanced editing section there's a section on aligning tracks. When you're doing this you'll probably need to set the format of selection start to hh:mm:ss + milliseconds, so you can get the correction accurate enough (see the section on the Selection bar for details). For future recordings, in Preferences, in the Audio I/O category, you can set a latency correction in milliseconds: The recorded track will be delayed by that amount (which can be negative). David Bailes. original message - Now, I have another problem. I am trying to record a couple of my friends singing a song with a karaoke track. It seems that when Audacity lays down the vocals, there is a delay that results in the vocals being one beat off. Is there any way I can fix that? I sure hope it isn't my mixer and sound card. ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JLC Internet TV
I have written to them suggesting a hot key to start a stream and a hotkey to stop a stream. He did write back to me letting me know that he'd see what he could do to make the program more accessible. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 4/30/2007 at 7:47 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you contacted the JLC company to explain some of the access issues that you are having with the software? Did you get a reply from them? What are the access issues you are having with JLC Internet TV software? I emailed the company to see if they will respond tom my messsage. I told them I will make a donation if all is made better with the software. Petro Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] djc's Jukebox: http://paulmerrell.net:9212 or http://paulmerrell.net:9660 Saturday Evenings 9 to midnight Eastern. My Journal http://livejournal.com/users/djc1 email Or Msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I C Q Number Is: 4781694 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Media Monkey Library
I have a music collection I want Media Monkey to process. Can it do this by moving files, or does it just create play lists. How do I use it. Looked at it and am stumped. Thanks. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: jaspers line in plug in for winamp
Under accessories entertainment volume control, set the mut checkbox. This will mean that you won't hear what comes through the microphone, and you won't get feedback. Dave. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: 30 April 2007 21:26 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: jaspers line in plug in for winamp can anyone tell me how to use this plug in i know how to get my microphone to come through my speakers and need to know how to make the plug in not give me a lot of feedback from my microphone. thanks for your help Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 06:30 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3649 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 06:30 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Winamp 5.34 Behavior
Actually, it IS somewhat comforting. A list member sent me some scripts
off-list to help the library issue we hope...We'll see if it helps with the
search as well.
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Subject: Strange Winamp 5.34 Behavior
Hi, All.
Just updated to the official release of Winamp 5.34 (using Pro Version).
I'm
noticing an odd thing that I've never had happen before. In the library, I
often use the search function since my library is so large and not everything
is
propperly tagged due to the various rippers and taggers I've used over the
years. Anyhow, when I type something into the search box, anytime I press
the
spacebar, it inserts the space like it should, but also inserts the letter X.
Anyone else having this problem or know what might be causing it?
Also, I reverted back to the Winamp scripts that came with JAWS
8.0.1177...No
change; the library still only reads the last letter of each option in the
Tree
View such as Audio, Video and stuff...They're both O. Usually, if I use
Say
Current Line, I can get the whole name spoken, but not always. I deleted
the
scripts I'd downloaded from JFWLite and, as I said, went back to the default
scripts...No change.
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Winamp Version 5.34.1278 is now Available
Winamp version 5.34.1278 is now available and one place where you can download it from is at www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/winamp534_full_1278.exe. Here are the changes in this version: In_flac / msvcp71.dll not found error Ml_pmp doesn't add files to ml db after copy to local media Regards Steve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Tune into ACB Radio World with the brand-new ACB Radio Tuner!
From: Jeff Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ACB Radio Web team among a number of others have been working hard on a brand-new version of the ACB Radio Tuner. With the launch of the ACB Radio World stream, we have released the new ACB Radio Tuner. Here is what is new in this release: * This version only supports Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003 and Windows VISTA. The older version will remain available for older client desktops such as Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME and Windows NT Version 4.0. * Addition of the ACB Radio World stream reachable by pressing CTRL+D. * Addition of several new hotkeys. * Windows Media Player hotkey changed to CTRL+E. * Settings are saved in a custom INI file (ACB Radio Tuner.ini) to eliminate Windows registry writes. The file is placed in the user's Application Data folder in a directory called ACB Radio Tuner. This insures that the program will operate under VISTA. * Improved, cleaner visual user interface. * The No Extra Speech setting is now saved if selected so that future sessions do not check for the availability of a screen reader. We have great plans for the future of the Tuner and you will start to see more frequent updates as we begin to implement those features. You can download the Tuner from the web at: http://www.acbradio.org/tuner I want to sincerely thank the following individuals for their contributions in making this version a tremendous success: Darren Paskell - for giving us the source code of the original from which to build from. He rocks! Darrell Shandrow - for putting up with buggy versions and for assisting in writing the documentation. Matthew Horspool - for assistance with documentation updates and for developing the ACB Radio Tuner tutorial (to be released soon). Tina Ektermanis - for digging out her dusty Windows 98 box, blowing the dirt out of the fans, finding its old power cord and getting that crusty hard drive to boot to test the new version on that platform. Shucks, and all to find out it doesn't work. Thanks Tina for the hard work late in to the night. Chrissie and Marlaina - for giving us the support we needed to get this done and for always being there. Main Menu Friends Group users - without their help, this never would have been a success. There are far to many to list here, but thanks gang! Again, get the new tuner at: http://www.acbradio.org/tuner Happy Tuning everyone. Regards Steve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lowering the volume for voiceover
Hi all, I'm about to start a regular net broadcast show. I've got a question: I'm planning to use either Oddcast or the Sam encoders. I have Audiostocker doing compression with Winamp 5.33. What can I do to lower the volume of the music so I can talk over it? Will oddcast do this once the live recording is checked? What about the Sam encoders? If not is there a dsp that'll do it? I know the shoutcast 1.8 plug-in will do it in the advanced settings, but I'd rather not use it if I don't have to. Brandon Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lowering the volume for voiceover
You can do it with winamp. I do it all the time. Hear is a not so good example. I was doing it on the fly. lol. http://www.sendspace.com/file/jjs3lg look near the bottom of the page for the file. it is an mp3. SAG : Hi all, : I'm about to start a regular net broadcast show. I've got a question: : I'm planning to use either Oddcast or the Sam encoders. I have : Audiostocker doing compression with Winamp 5.33. What can I do to : lower the volume of the music so I can talk over it? Will oddcast do : this once the live recording is checked? What about the Sam encoders? : If not is there a dsp that'll do it? I know the shoutcast 1.8 plug-in : will do it in the advanced settings, but I'd rather not use it if I : don't have to. Brandon : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless headphone device.
The wireless amplifier they sell is reported to be extremely good. It is one of the new highly acclaimed T-amps. You can read about the t-amp at: www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html - I'm not sure if the Amphony amp is the same chip that these people are talking about but I'm guessing it is. I was thinking of getting one. However, it wouldn't be portable like wireless headsets. Bobcat - Original Message - From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: wireless headphone device. They do sell a wireless amplifier. I don't know how good it is though. - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: wireless headphone device. I wish they sold a unit that let us plug in any head set. Bob - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: wireless headphone device. The Amphony 5.8ghz wireless system is a great system; however, it is a closed ear system. I was looking for a unit that could support my favorite open ear headphones. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lowering the volume for voiceover
Hi, So you just did that by turning the volume of Winamp down while you were using your encoders and the line in plug-in? I'd appreciate exact instructions as to how you accomplished that. Thanks, Brandon Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mixing audio on a single channel with sound forge
Use the process, channel converter. There are a lot of presets in there. - Original Message - From: Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:24 AM Subject: Mixing audio on a single channel with sound forge Hi, how can I mix audio only on a single channel with sf8? For switching bethween channels I press tab, but when I save the file it returns to the original state. What can I do? I've also another question... I can't use the effects included in sound forge8. For example I click on chorus, and... nothing, I can't see the presets window. Can you help me? Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lowering the volume for voiceover
Actually I was using a second sound card and oddcast and winamp. I have had no luck wiht the line in pluggin. Do ou have a second sound card you can set winamp and the line in pluggin to so you can not hear jaws? : Hi, : So you just did that by turning the volume of Winamp down while you : were using your encoders and the line in plug-in? : I'd appreciate exact instructions as to how you accomplished that. : Thanks, : Brandon : : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop suggestions?
Hey, Guys! I am looking for a new laptop, and have never owned one before. I want it for other things, yes, but want it powerful enough for on the road recording as well, which is why I am asking this list for suggestions. I would like to keep it under 1,000 dollars, but will entertain any suggestion, if the cost can be justified. I am a Jaws user, but look to add Window Eyes soon too. I will be traveling with this thing, so screen size is not important, except that it should not be some huge 17 inch monster. It does have to fit my backpack after all. I look forward to your suggestions! Thanks much! Billy Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
