Re: Questions about Slingbox

2007-07-21 Thread Mark Vincent
review of this on 
www.blindcooltech.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Lynn Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:23 AM
Subject: Questions about Slingbox


Hi everyone.  Next Saturday, Comcast is coming out here to install 
digital cable and I will have a box on my mom's TV since she watches 
more TV than I do. I didn't want to spend the money to upgrade all 
the TVs in the house and was hoping to use Slingbox to get digital 
cable on my PC, but I did have a few questions.
1.  For those of you using Jaws and Slingbox, how is the 
accessibility?  Will I need sighted help to install and/or set it up?
2.  If I install Slingbox and my mom is watching something on her TV, 
can I watch another channel on my PC at the same time?
3.  Do I need a TV tuner card on my PC?  I do have one, so that 
shouldn't be a problem.
4.  Is there anything else I should know before going forward with this?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Lynn



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: sites for downloading music

2007-07-21 Thread Terra Syslo
Thanks. I have JAWS 5, so I'll have to try it and see how it works. Do they
have a pretty wide selection?

http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736
email and MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: tlsyslo


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:15 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: sites for downloading music


I like Napster and www.emusic.com
The Napster client can be a little tricky, but if you have at least
Jaws 8 and a little patience it can be done.  You may also get some
nag screens with Napster about moving to the subscriber level but I
personally like being a Napster Light member where there is no
monthly fee and songs and albums can be purchased ala carte.  HTH Norma




Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007
4:39 PM

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007
4:39 PM



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: sites for downloading music

2007-07-21 Thread Norma A. Boge
I like Napster and www.emusic.com
The Napster client can be a little tricky, but if you have at least 
Jaws 8 and a little patience it can be done.  You may also get some 
nag screens with Napster about moving to the subscriber level but I 
personally like being a Napster Light member where there is no 
monthly fee and songs and albums can be purchased ala carte.  HTH Norma




Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


DVD Drive Problems

2007-07-21 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I have an LG dvd burner.  I've made data dvds on it successfully, it plays 
commercial cds, too.  Every time I put in commercial or homebrew dvds, whether 
trying to play through WMP or Nero, all I get is the picture without sound.  Is 
that a dead drive as a friend thinks?
Suggestions welcome.
Thanks.

Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Questions about Slingbox

2007-07-21 Thread Lynn Schneider
Hi everyone.  Next Saturday, Comcast is coming out here to install 
digital cable and I will have a box on my mom's TV since she watches 
more TV than I do. I didn't want to spend the money to upgrade all 
the TVs in the house and was hoping to use Slingbox to get digital 
cable on my PC, but I did have a few questions.
1.  For those of you using Jaws and Slingbox, how is the 
accessibility?  Will I need sighted help to install and/or set it up?
2.  If I install Slingbox and my mom is watching something on her TV, 
can I watch another channel on my PC at the same time?
3.  Do I need a TV tuner card on my PC?  I do have one, so that 
shouldn't be a problem.
4.  Is there anything else I should know before going forward with this?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Lynn



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: sites for downloading music

2007-07-21 Thread Casey
You could try www.musicgiants.com they don't have a lot of variety, but it 
is easy to get around. The music is the best quality anywhere!


Casey


- Original Message - 
From: "Terra Syslo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:35 PM
Subject: sites for downloading music


Can anyone recommend any sites that work well with JAWS for purchasing and
downloading music? I tried to download Itunes, but it would not install, and
I'm not sure how well it will work with JAWS. I've tried Rhapsody, but I'd
like something that I could buy per song and not have to pay a subscription
every month, if there is such a thing.

http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736
email and MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: tlsyslo

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007
4:39 PM



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


sites for downloading music

2007-07-21 Thread Terra Syslo
Can anyone recommend any sites that work well with JAWS for purchasing and
downloading music? I tried to download Itunes, but it would not install, and
I'm not sure how well it will work with JAWS. I've tried Rhapsody, but I'd
like something that I could buy per song and not have to pay a subscription
every month, if there is such a thing.

http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736
email and MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: tlsyslo

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007
4:39 PM



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Looking for program

2007-07-21 Thread Tom
Hi TerriLynne,

If you double the playback speed of an MP3 file using 
Goldwave the pitch will be doubled too.  You can adjust the 
speed either for the playback control which is space bar or 
F4 or you can adjust the fast forward speed when using the 
fast forward key which is F7.  I think you can even change 
the rewind speed if you would choose to do that.

You can alter the pitch but that is a completely separate 
setting.

Does this make any more sense?

Tom

** Message Separator **
>Hi Tom,
>So, as I understand you, with GoldWave, the pitch does not 
>change when you increase the speed. If I am understanding you 
>correctly, is there a program which does increase the pitch 
>as the speed is increased?



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Looking for program

2007-07-21 Thread TerriLynne Pomeroy
Hi Tom,
So, as I understand you, with GoldWave, the pitch does not change when
you increase the speed. If I am understanding you correctly, is there a
program which does increase the pitch as the speed is increased?

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Looking for program

2007-07-21 Thread Tom
TerriLynne,

Goldwave will let you increase or decrease playback speed 
withoutt altering the pitch.  It would be the same as 
changing the speed of a cassette player without pitch 
control.  I am not a Goldwave expert but others on this list 
are and perhaps they can give you more details.

Tom

** Message Separator **
>Hi all,
>Can anyone tell me of any computer program(s) which can be 
>used to speed up or slow down an mp3? Also, for any program 
>mentioned, can you tell me whether or not that program 
>changes the pitch of the mp3? I know that this is perhaps not 
>what people are usually looking for, but I am looking for a 
>program in which the pitch of the mp3 goes up as the speed is 
>increased.



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Problem with creative zen stone

2007-07-21 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't have any problems rewinding through a track with the Zen Stone. 
Are you sure you're holding the rewind button down long enough? It'll 
rewind about 5 seconds, play about a second, rewind about 5 seconds and 
so on, so it may sound like it's advancing through the track, when 
really it's rewinding. I hope that makes sense!

Chris Chaffin wrote:
> Hi all,
> Like everyone else, I like the zen stone and its ease of use.  I did find 
> one thing it was doing, and wanted to know if there is a way of doing a 
> certain function.
>
> While listening to an audio book, I found that it would skip sometimes 
> during the book.  It would only skip a little, like a sentence or two.  I 
> found out how to fast forward with the unit, but I can not find out how to 
> rewind with the unit.
> Now when I say fast forward, I do not mean moving from track to track, but 
> fast forwarding within the same track.
> If you hold down the forward button, it will move forward within the same 
> file, but the same does not work for me if I hold down the back button.
> If I hold down the back button, it still advances forward in the file.
> When it does skip while listening to an audio book, I was just going to 
> rewind it a little and try to listen to that part again to see if it did it 
> again, but like I said, I could not get it to move backward within a file.
> Now I also considered that it could be a problem with the file, so I checked 
> the file out on my computer using Winamp, and there was no skipping at all.
> Any help or suggestions with this would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." 
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:52 AM
> Subject: Re: creative zen stone
>
>
>   
>> All true. If you still want to check out the Creative Media Lite
>> application, you can get JFW scripts for it at
>> http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html.
>>
>> Chris Skarstad wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as
>>> actually transfering files to the player is concerned.  You can
>>> simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any
>>> other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that!
>>> No extra software to use, none of that.
>>>Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange
>>> LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging,
>>> and when it's completely charged, the light stays on.  How I do it is
>>> I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it.  It makes
>>> sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's
>>> fully charged all the time.  So yep, you can use the program, but you
>>> really don't have to, unless you're super curious.  go to
>>>
>>> http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Hi,
 Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how 
 you
 can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
 Where can I find this utility?
 I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB
 port, and it was ready to go.
 Any help with this would be appreciated.
 And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

 Thanks,
 Chris

 - Original Message -
 From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list." 
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: creative zen stone



 
> My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
> don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
> to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
> Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
> Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.
>
> Chris Chaffin wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
>> I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
>> initially?
>> And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while 
>> it
>> is
>> hooked up to the computer charging?
>> I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play
>> while
>> it is charging.
>>
>> All help is appreciated.
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
>> http://www.pc-audio.org
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
> --
> Christopher
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
> http://www.pc-audio.org
>
> To unsubscri

Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-21 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

Same here and I am up in december for upgrade and my contract is over.  Not 
sure what I'll do then as my 4650 works well for what I need it for.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: "John Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Weighing Up accessability


High David,
I have and use the same phone that you had.
I am long over do for an up grade, but I am very skeptical about which phone
to get.
I am with the same carrier that you're with, but they tell me that they
don't know of a phone that does the same things that this one does.
So I'm watching the market just to see what they will come up with for the
blind.
My best regards to you all!
- Original Message - 
From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Weighing Up accessability


> Well, I have had a LG4650 for the past two years, and while it didn't
> speak all the menus it was usableas a basic cell phone, and did let you
> know who was calling, and control more features of the phone than a phone
> with no speech output.
>
> I upgraded to a LG9900 a few days ago, and my wife and I attempted to get
> that phone setup last night so that aI could use its' wonderful features.
> Sorry to say, the voice command in this new phone seems to be worse than
> in the 4650, and there is no speech output in the very places where one
> needs speech output the most.  To make matters worse the manual for this
> phone seems to be of not much help when attempting to get the phone setup
> for speech output.
>
> Long story short, I am going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and get a
> 30 day trial on the Moterola Q so I can try it out with MobileSpeak
> Smartphone.
>
> LG has voice on at least 6 of their phones, but one almost wonders why
> when the fact is that the items that speak do little to help one get the
> phone realy setup, and the items that do not speak are the items one
> really need in order to do things like enter names in the contact list.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:26 PM
> Subject: Weighing Up accessability
>
>
> : Thanks for that, said all I wanted to say in a nutshell. Yes, there
> : is no doubt that the Nokia and Lg phoens have TTS in them but that is
> : mainly for "voice prompting" etc but its at least a start and
> : positive comment to the manufacturers could result in something bigger.
> : Of course we all long for the "perfect device" but until we get such
> : a device then we have to "live and let live", adapt where possible
> : and use what we have at our disposal, in the meantime positive
> : comment never did anyone any harm.
> : The other issue is, who's going to pay for all the extra development
> : costs needed for accessability products? I don't know whether the
> : investors in Nokia would be too happy about that just quietly. The
> : other solution of course is to design a product from the ground up
> : with accessability in mind, Nokia never have and I doubt ever will do
> : that, again it comes down to cost. There have been mobile phones
> : built for accessability, can't remember their names now but I'm sure
> : other people will put me on the right track and of course, there are
> : devices round such as the Icon. Now that said, we come back to the
> : same problem, these devices do cost.
> :
> : On 20/07/2007, at 4:11 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> :
> : I'd actually say Dane is correct on this one, cause most of the
> : phones that have TTS built in weren't done so with accessibility of
> : the blind in mind.  We are a very small market and unless a large
> : percentage of our group starts making noise, the phone manufacturers
> : like Nokia won't even consider putting accessibility related features
> : into their phones, because the bottom line is selling them, and they
> : aren't going to put a special feature in for 1 percent of the market
> : they're selling to.  I'm not sure if I'm as hot on the iPhone as some
> : folks are.  To me it's far too expensive and right now, I wouldn't
> : even be able to use some of its features, nore would I want to. I'm
> : not saying anyone else shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying it's not for
> : me.
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :   of our At 12:00 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
> : > I stand by what I said, the TTS was never put there with
> : > accessability in mind.
> : >
> : > On 19/07/2007, at 11:16 PM, Keith Gillard wrote:
> : >
> : > Um,
> : >
> : > Actually,
> : >
> : > The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to
> : > the OS.
> : >
> : > rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith
> : > - Original Message -
> : > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:03 PM
> : > Subjec

Looking for program

2007-07-21 Thread TerriLynne Pomeroy
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me of any computer program(s) which can be used to speed
up or slow down an mp3? Also, for any program mentioned, can you tell me
whether or not that program changes the pitch of the mp3? I know that
this is perhaps not what people are usually looking for, but I am looking
for a program in which the pitch of the mp3 goes up as the speed is
increased.

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-21 Thread John Price
High David,
I have and use the same phone that you had.
I am long over do for an up grade, but I am very skeptical about which phone 
to get.
I am with the same carrier that you're with, but they tell me that they 
don't know of a phone that does the same things that this one does.
So I'm watching the market just to see what they will come up with for the 
blind.
My best regards to you all!
- Original Message - 
From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Weighing Up accessability


> Well, I have had a LG4650 for the past two years, and while it didn't 
> speak all the menus it was usableas a basic cell phone, and did let you 
> know who was calling, and control more features of the phone than a phone 
> with no speech output.
>
> I upgraded to a LG9900 a few days ago, and my wife and I attempted to get 
> that phone setup last night so that aI could use its' wonderful features. 
> Sorry to say, the voice command in this new phone seems to be worse than 
> in the 4650, and there is no speech output in the very places where one 
> needs speech output the most.  To make matters worse the manual for this 
> phone seems to be of not much help when attempting to get the phone setup 
> for speech output.
>
> Long story short, I am going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and get a 
> 30 day trial on the Moterola Q so I can try it out with MobileSpeak 
> Smartphone.
>
> LG has voice on at least 6 of their phones, but one almost wonders why 
> when the fact is that the items that speak do little to help one get the 
> phone realy setup, and the items that do not speak are the items one 
> really need in order to do things like enter names in the contact list.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:26 PM
> Subject: Weighing Up accessability
>
>
> : Thanks for that, said all I wanted to say in a nutshell. Yes, there
> : is no doubt that the Nokia and Lg phoens have TTS in them but that is
> : mainly for "voice prompting" etc but its at least a start and
> : positive comment to the manufacturers could result in something bigger.
> : Of course we all long for the "perfect device" but until we get such
> : a device then we have to "live and let live", adapt where possible
> : and use what we have at our disposal, in the meantime positive
> : comment never did anyone any harm.
> : The other issue is, who's going to pay for all the extra development
> : costs needed for accessability products? I don't know whether the
> : investors in Nokia would be too happy about that just quietly. The
> : other solution of course is to design a product from the ground up
> : with accessability in mind, Nokia never have and I doubt ever will do
> : that, again it comes down to cost. There have been mobile phones
> : built for accessability, can't remember their names now but I'm sure
> : other people will put me on the right track and of course, there are
> : devices round such as the Icon. Now that said, we come back to the
> : same problem, these devices do cost.
> :
> : On 20/07/2007, at 4:11 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> :
> : I'd actually say Dane is correct on this one, cause most of the
> : phones that have TTS built in weren't done so with accessibility of
> : the blind in mind.  We are a very small market and unless a large
> : percentage of our group starts making noise, the phone manufacturers
> : like Nokia won't even consider putting accessibility related features
> : into their phones, because the bottom line is selling them, and they
> : aren't going to put a special feature in for 1 percent of the market
> : they're selling to.  I'm not sure if I'm as hot on the iPhone as some
> : folks are.  To me it's far too expensive and right now, I wouldn't
> : even be able to use some of its features, nore would I want to. I'm
> : not saying anyone else shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying it's not for
> : me.
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :   of our At 12:00 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
> : > I stand by what I said, the TTS was never put there with
> : > accessability in mind.
> : >
> : > On 19/07/2007, at 11:16 PM, Keith Gillard wrote:
> : >
> : > Um,
> : >
> : > Actually,
> : >
> : > The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to
> : > the OS.
> : >
> : > rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith
> : > - Original Message -
> : > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:03 PM
> : > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
> : >
> : >
> : > It doesn't actually, it has the wheel interface which current IPODS
> : > have.
> : >
> : > Blind organisations have actually made feelings known about the touch
> : > screen on an I phone but having said that Apple has done allot to
> : > impliment accessability into t

Victor Stream Features

2007-07-21 Thread Keith Gillard
Hi,
>From the Stream Brochure:
Stream

Small in size,

Big on features!

The only DAISY player

that offers you so much

in such a small package

Advanced DAISY Book Features

. Four-arrow keys for navigation by chapter,

section, page, and bookmarks

. GOTO features to jump to a specific page,

heading, book or bookmark

. Browse bookmark list

. Allows navigation of multiple books, MP3

folders, and voice notes

. Text-to-speech allows to access electronic text

. Three types of bookmarking saved separately

for multiple books

. Simple bookmark to mark a reading position

. Audio bookmark with recorded voice note

. Highlight bookmark to mark start and end of

a passage

. Ability to play or not to play skippable elements

Extensive usability features:

. Variable speed playback

. Accelerated fast forward/rewind with audible

feedback

. Time Jump feature

. Auto Sleep shutoff with multiple time settings

. Key lock feature

. Book information key

. Where Am I key for information on position

. Built-in user guide and Key Describer

. Configuration menu for setting time jump

interval, DAISY skippable elements, and MP3

shuffle or loop play modes

. Audio messages for battery capacity

. Announcement of MP3 folder and file names

. Audio tone control

. Recognized as a standard Windows USB drive:

allows transfers from PC to Stream without file

filtering software

www.humanware.com

Please call HumanWare to find out

more about what Victor Reader

Stream can do for you.

In U.S.A.

Toll Free: 1-800-722-3393

or (925) 680-7100

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In Canada

Toll Free: 1-888-723-7273

or (819) 471-4818

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Purchase online at:

www.humanware.com



Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]