Re: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On The Design ofNewRadio
steve if you are soliciting this information you should forward it on to sam if not let him spread the word. chris - Original Message - From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "GUI Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" ; "vip-l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On The Design ofNewRadio > If you have any features you'd like included in this radio please make > sure you send your messages to sam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not > to me. Thanks, Steve. > > From: "Sam Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Mike's Mess List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi there folks, > > So often when we buy a portable radio and CD player these days, we > find that we can only use some of the options that are available and the > others require at least some vision to use. > > Well, a friend of mine is in a rather unique position, and here's what > he writes. > > Hi Sam, > > Right now, I'd like to tell you about a couple projects I'm involved in. > > The Best Buy electronics retail chain is teaming up with an electronics > manufacturer to offer a blind-friendly radio. It's just in the planning > stages > right now. I have a contact who is involved in the talks between Best > Buy and the > manufacturer. > > My friend would like to know the top ten things we as blind persons > would > like to see in a radio. The first thing I said was to have a num pad on > the > remote so we could put in a frequency. I'd also like to see a button > that returns > all the menus and mode buttons to some pre-determined default settings > so we > wouldn't get lost in the menus and sub menus. If the unit is going to > have a multi-cd > changer, I'd like it to give an audible signal when the cd tray I select > is empty > rather than automatically finding the next loaded one. > > As you know, I have exactly two blind friends. But you seem to know > quite a few folks, one way or another. Would you mind asking as many > people as you > can what they'd like to see in a blind-friendly radio and then send the > information to me? > > I will pass it along to my friend and we will actually have some say > in the design and features set rather than having the sighted design it > for us, not > knowing at all what we need or what would be helpful. If you're on any > blindness-related lists where the question would be appropriate, feel > free to post the > question there and forward the info to me. > > Regards Steve > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: steve1963 > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poikosoft news: Easy CD-DA Extractor 11.5
I would not have asked the question without trying this. The Website does not mention a beta, and the latest downloadable version is 11.1. bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Steve Matzura wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:57:03 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: > >> Is this 11.5 beta available somewhere? > > Of course. Try his web site, http://www.poikosoft.dk, or just google > for Easy CDDA Extractor. > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On The Design of NewRadio
If you have any features you'd like included in this radio please make sure you send your messages to sam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not to me. Thanks, Steve. From: "Sam Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike's Mess List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there folks, So often when we buy a portable radio and CD player these days, we find that we can only use some of the options that are available and the others require at least some vision to use. Well, a friend of mine is in a rather unique position, and here's what he writes. Hi Sam, Right now, I'd like to tell you about a couple projects I'm involved in. The Best Buy electronics retail chain is teaming up with an electronics manufacturer to offer a blind-friendly radio. It's just in the planning stages right now. I have a contact who is involved in the talks between Best Buy and the manufacturer. My friend would like to know the top ten things we as blind persons would like to see in a radio. The first thing I said was to have a num pad on the remote so we could put in a frequency. I'd also like to see a button that returns all the menus and mode buttons to some pre-determined default settings so we wouldn't get lost in the menus and sub menus. If the unit is going to have a multi-cd changer, I'd like it to give an audible signal when the cd tray I select is empty rather than automatically finding the next loaded one. As you know, I have exactly two blind friends. But you seem to know quite a few folks, one way or another. Would you mind asking as many people as you can what they'd like to see in a blind-friendly radio and then send the information to me? I will pass it along to my friend and we will actually have some say in the design and features set rather than having the sighted design it for us, not knowing at all what we need or what would be helpful. If you're on any blindness-related lists where the question would be appropriate, feel free to post the question there and forward the info to me. Regards Steve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New I or J tunes
All right then thanks. I'll be watching for the release. Larry - Original Message - From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:52 PM Subject: Re: New I or J tunes Hi Larry The previous Jtunes was a payable upgrade - I'm not sure but I think it's about £30. It works fairly well and certainly makes Itunes workable. It has one or two restrictions but in general is good. The new version sounds just what we need and so as you can see I'm keen to get it. Regards. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: Re: New I or J tunes > Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message, > forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming > soon > category. > this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the > first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell > me anything about cost and such? > > To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by > which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes. > > For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if > their > soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a > representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release > of > Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as > to whether to purchase jTunes straight away. > > At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for > reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I > have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I > happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another > member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn. > > Larry > > > - Original Message - > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC-Audio" > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM > Subject: New I or J tunes > > >> Hi >> I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned. >> I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet? >> Gordon McFarlane >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New I or J tunes
Hi Larry The previous Jtunes was a payable upgrade - I'm not sure but I think it's about £30. It works fairly well and certainly makes Itunes workable. It has one or two restrictions but in general is good. The new version sounds just what we need and so as you can see I'm keen to get it. Regards. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: Re: New I or J tunes > Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message, > forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming > soon > category. > this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the > first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell > me anything about cost and such? > > To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by > which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes. > > For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if > their > soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a > representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release > of > Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as > to whether to purchase jTunes straight away. > > At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for > reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I > have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I > happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another > member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn. > > Larry > > > - Original Message - > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC-Audio" > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM > Subject: New I or J tunes > > >> Hi >> I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned. >> I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet? >> Gordon McFarlane >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poikosoft news: Easy CD-DA Extractor 11.5
actually, what I think Bruce was asking wasn't necessarily where it could be found, but how to find it on the site. I've been through the forum which is where the original message stated that it could be gotten from, and I can't seem to find it. We're both paid product owners, so knowing the site isn't the issue here, it's finding the beta, which hasn't proven to be very easy so far. Caroline - Original Message - From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Poikosoft news: Easy CD-DA Extractor 11.5 > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:57:03 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: > >>Is this 11.5 beta available somewhere? > > Of course. Try his web site, http://www.poikosoft.dk, or just google > for Easy CDDA Extractor. > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Winamp Version 5.531 is now Available
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:11:25 +1100, you wrote: >Winamp version 5.531 is now available and one place where you can download it >from is at www.majorgeeks.com/Winamp_5_Full_d2490.html. This link makes the >version of Winamp sound like it is a beta version but it isn't. Here are the >changes in this version: majorgeeks only had build 1938, and absolutely no reference I could find to a 5.531 version, so I took the link that said "download from author's site" and got the latest and greatest one there is as of this writing. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poikosoft news: Easy CD-DA Extractor 11.5
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:57:03 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: >Is this 11.5 beta available somewhere? Of course. Try his web site, http://www.poikosoft.dk, or just google for Easy CDDA Extractor. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New I or J tunes
It is most definitely helpful, Jonathan. Thanks very much! Larry - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: RE: New I or J tunes > Hi larry, in the January 2008 edition of FSCast, which I host and produce, > I > demonstrated using iTunes in conjunction with jTunes. This was before the > latest update, but it will give you some indication as to how it works. > > If you would like to hear this episode, the link is: > http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast014-january2008.m > p3 > > Hope this is of some help. > > Jonathan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Larry N > Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 4:23 p.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: New I or J tunes > > Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message, > forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming > soon > category. > this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the > first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell > me anything about cost and such? > > To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by > which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes. > > For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if > their > soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a > representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release > of > Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as > to whether to purchase jTunes straight away. > > At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for > reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I > have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I > happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another > member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn. > > Larry > > > - Original Message - > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC-Audio" > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM > Subject: New I or J tunes > > >> Hi >> I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned. >> I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet? >> Gordon McFarlane >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New I or J tunes
Hi larry, in the January 2008 edition of FSCast, which I host and produce, I demonstrated using iTunes in conjunction with jTunes. This was before the latest update, but it will give you some indication as to how it works. If you would like to hear this episode, the link is: http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast014-january2008.m p3 Hope this is of some help. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry N Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 4:23 p.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: New I or J tunes Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message, forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming soon category. this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell me anything about cost and such? To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes. For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if their soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release of Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as to whether to purchase jTunes straight away. At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn. Larry - Original Message - From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC-Audio" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: New I or J tunes > Hi > I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned. > I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet? > Gordon McFarlane > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless Keyboards and Wireless Headphones
I've sold quite a few of Gyration 100 foot range RF Wireless keyboards with only two or three minor complaints. It cost's $199. For headphones I've been using Advent AW-770 for seven years. They are rated at 100 feet also but I've never got more than 30. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $289, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mp3 players with large storage
Creative Labs has a new 32 gig credit card sized one that looks pretty nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:58 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: mp3 players with large storage hi list. i'm looking for a mp3 player with large storage that isn't an ipod. the iaudio doesn't seam to be available any more larger than 16 gig. i'm looking for something in the 30 to 60 gig range. btw this is for my wife so it doesn't have to be accessible for someone who can't see the screen. i got her a 30 gb zoon but the battery seams to be having a problem. any help would be great. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: NBP-Announce: GENERAL: A Pocketful of Sound, by Anna Dresner
chris: If you email me the Electronic Brail text, I'll send you back the ascii equivalent. Cheers. - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: FW: NBP-Announce: GENERAL: A Pocketful of Sound, by Anna Dresner > wow, I just wish this book was available in something like regular > ascii text or html so I could read it on my computer or something. > The only ways it seems to be available are on portabook cd or > download and regular braille. > It'd be sooo much nicer if it was in daisy format or something at least? > > > > > At 06:51 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote: >>We've had a number of questions posed relative to portable media players >>so >>I thought some people might be interested in this new publication. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony >>Grima >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:22 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: NBP-Announce: GENERAL: A Pocketful of Sound, by Anna Dresner >> >>A Pocketful of Sound >>A Quick-Start and Buyer's Guide to Accessible Book and Music Players By >>Anna >>Dresner In braille & PortaBook, $14 >> >>Have you ever wished you could carry a whole library of CDs or audiobooks >>with you to college, on your commute, or on vacation? It's now possible to >>do just that, in a device that fits in your pocket. But there are so many >>choices it can be hard to know which one of these cute little gadgets you >>should buy. >> >>'A Pocketful of Sound' will help you decide. Author Anna Dresner describes >>and compares many of the most accessible players, including the Zen Stone; >>iPods; players running Rockbox; the Olympus DS-30, Ds-40, and DS-50; the >>Victor Stream; the Icon; and many others. She uses the same checklist for >>each product, so you can quickly compare their features. You'll learn how >>to >>get the most out of your player with detailed descriptions, basic >>instructions for use, and tips for power users. Anna has given each of >>these >>products a good work-out, and shares her personal opinions on each in a >>"Would I Use It" section . >> >>Also included are brief sections on the media-playing capabilities of >>notetakers and cell phones, information about how players organize music, >>links to tutorials and other resources, and sources for downloading music >>and books. >> >>So whether you already own a player or are considering your first one, >>this >>book will help you rock and read the way you want to. >> >>Check out the table of contents: >>http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/POCKET.html >> >> >>___ >>Nbp mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>PLEASE DO NOT respond to this message! It is an automated message and your >>query will not reach us. Send questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . >> >>Visit us at http://www.nbp.org >>To unsubscribe from this list, go to: >>http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/query/unsub.html?list=elist >> >> >> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless Keyboards and Wireless Headphones
Some time ago I sent the following email to a British access group, I hope it may help: Hi Listers A couple of months ago I commented to the list that I'd tried a number of wireless keyboards, none of which I could recommend to others on the list. These included keyboards from Microsoft, belkin, trust, 2 from logitec, 2 from creative and 3 from PC World. The problems were equally associated with strange keyboard layouts as with the poor range of the systems. However, I have just bought 2 new cherry marlin keyboards which meet all the features I've always wanted in a wireless keyboard. They are of the modern flat design, with positive key travel, with no bounce and a slight click. The layout is exactly standard, with 3 groups of 4 function keys and a proper sized delete key together with an insert key. In fact the keyboard has the feel of a highly professional unit, for a price of £40 plus VAT and delivery. The great thing about the keyboard is the range which is quoted as 10 metres, but I've tried it outside in the garden about 15 metres from the sender and through two internal walls and an exterior wall - albeit in my modern house, so I don't know what the range would be outside of an older house with stone walls. But I would think that it would travel inside a house from say a computer in the bedroom down to the lounge. The sender/receiver is very small being approximately one inch by two inches. It uses the 2 GHz range rather than the more usual 500 MHz range, but it doesn't seem to affect my wi-fi system, although the further away the sender is from the router, the more reliable the key presses become. I have no experience of the optical mouse other than saying that the feel is equally professional and it comes with a charging cable that when fitted during recharging, allows the mouse to be used just like a corded mouse, so users can always use it irrespective of the state of the rechargeable batteries. The keyboards can be purchased from: tekdata on 01782.665500. Steve Green - Original Message - From: "Dan Kerstetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Wireless Keyboards and Wireless Headphones > What are the wireless keyboards and headphones with the longest range? > > > > Dan Kerstetter > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]