Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread Danny Miles
Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
to me.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
(apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

Many thanks, Danny

On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:
 Hi Danny.

 Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
 original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug to
 record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy from
 that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
 discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
 copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
 third copy in analog, and so forth.

 As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of that.
 As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
 the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
 and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

 Hope this helps.

 Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

 GO REDS!
 Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
 kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Kevin,
It sounds like you're doing the same thing with your many disc that I do 
with old records and tapes. SMILES
You don't always have to use the USB inter face if you can go the other 
rout.

My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:57 AM
Subject: RE: Minidisc File Formats



Hi Danny.

Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug to
record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy from
that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
third copy in analog, and so forth.

As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of 
that.

As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

Hope this helps.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

GO REDS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmi...@windstream.net


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RE: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread Walter Ramage
Hi Danny.  If you are unable to use Gold Wave for recordings on that
computer then have you tried using CDEX.  This will record straight onto the
hard drive or on to an external hard drive.  Unfortunately though, it isn't
an audio editor so when you start the recording then stop it, the resulting
file can't be manipulated.  You can though do so with Gold Wave if you
transfer the saved file to another PC or lap top that has  Gold Wave.
Walter

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Danny Miles
Sent: 25 May 2010 09:06
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
to me.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
(apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

Many thanks, Danny

On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:
 Hi Danny.

 Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
 original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug to
 record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy from
 that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
 discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
 copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
 third copy in analog, and so forth.

 As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of
that.
 As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
 the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
 and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

 Hope this helps.

 Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

 GO REDS!
 Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
 kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread Danny Miles
Hi John.  I 100% agree with you and Kevin, and for old material
(mainly cassettes) I do copy things in real time and edit with
Goldwave (when I have the software installed).  However, I don't want
to generate any more recordings on tape as I already have a collection
which will probably never all get converted, and my recordings often
need to last longer than 45 minutes before being interrupted.
However, for conversion of old recordings I'm definitely behind the
method described.

Danny

On 5/25/10, DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net wrote:
 High Kevin,
 It sounds like you're doing the same thing with your many disc that I do
 with old records and tapes. SMILES
 You don't always have to use the USB inter face if you can go the other
 rout.
 My best regards.
   John.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:57 AM
 Subject: RE: Minidisc File Formats


 Hi Danny.

 Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
 original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug to
 record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy from
 that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
 discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
 copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
 third copy in analog, and so forth.

 As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of
 that.
 As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
 the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
 and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

 Hope this helps.

 Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

 GO REDS!
 Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
 kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread Danny Miles
Hi Walter.  Thanks for advising me again.  No, I haven't thought of
CDEX, as I've never used it and assumed that it was simply an
alternative to Goldwave but with less features.  One of the main
issues with putting Goldwave on this computer is the lack of available
space for programmes, but if CDEX is so basic I presume it takes up
very little room.  My stand alone CD recorder doesn't allow editing,
so the lack of such a feature isn't really an issue.  Can you please
advise on where to find it and any tutorials, and whether it needs any
additional Jaws scripts?

Again, thanks for this idea, and any other ideas or contributions from
people will still be appreciated as you can never have enough
knowledge.

Cheers, Danny

On 5/25/10, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 Hi Danny.  If you are unable to use Gold Wave for recordings on that
 computer then have you tried using CDEX.  This will record straight onto the
 hard drive or on to an external hard drive.  Unfortunately though, it isn't
 an audio editor so when you start the recording then stop it, the resulting
 file can't be manipulated.  You can though do so with Gold Wave if you
 transfer the saved file to another PC or lap top that has  Gold Wave.
 Walter

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Danny Miles
 Sent: 25 May 2010 09:06
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


 Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
 copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
 an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
 appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
 borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
 back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
 suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
 discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
 to me.

 I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
 (apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
 drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
 to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

 Many thanks, Danny

 On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:
 Hi Danny.

 Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
 original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug to
 record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy from
 that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
 discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
 copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
 third copy in analog, and so forth.

 As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of
 that.
 As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
 the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
 and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

 Hope this helps.

 Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

 GO REDS!
 Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
 kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

Hello Danny,
I don't make tape recordings anymore either.
I just make digital transfers of them using DC7.
Making tape recordings these days, is so yester years. SMILES.
Why do that when these days, we're using tricks like vacuum tube preamps to 
make our recordings sound pretty close to what records sound like.

My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Danny Miles emowarr...@googlemail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats



Hi John.  I 100% agree with you and Kevin, and for old material
(mainly cassettes) I do copy things in real time and edit with
Goldwave (when I have the software installed).  However, I don't want
to generate any more recordings on tape as I already have a collection
which will probably never all get converted, and my recordings often
need to last longer than 45 minutes before being interrupted.
However, for conversion of old recordings I'm definitely behind the
method described.

Danny

On 5/25/10, DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net wrote:

High Kevin,
It sounds like you're doing the same thing with your many disc that I do
with old records and tapes. SMILES
You don't always have to use the USB inter face if you can go the other
rout.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:57 AM
Subject: RE: Minidisc File Formats



Hi Danny.

Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug 
to
record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy 
from

that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to 
a

third copy in analog, and so forth.

As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of
that.
As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and 
record
the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual 
files

and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

Hope this helps.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

GO REDS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Danny,
Actually, your stand alone CD recorder can do editing.
But the problem is, you'll need sight to do it.
That's why I got read of mine.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Danny Miles emowarr...@googlemail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats



Hi Walter.  Thanks for advising me again.  No, I haven't thought of
CDEX, as I've never used it and assumed that it was simply an
alternative to Goldwave but with less features.  One of the main
issues with putting Goldwave on this computer is the lack of available
space for programmes, but if CDEX is so basic I presume it takes up
very little room.  My stand alone CD recorder doesn't allow editing,
so the lack of such a feature isn't really an issue.  Can you please
advise on where to find it and any tutorials, and whether it needs any
additional Jaws scripts?

Again, thanks for this idea, and any other ideas or contributions from
people will still be appreciated as you can never have enough
knowledge.

Cheers, Danny

On 5/25/10, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Hi Danny.  If you are unable to use Gold Wave for recordings on that
computer then have you tried using CDEX.  This will record straight onto 
the
hard drive or on to an external hard drive.  Unfortunately though, it 
isn't
an audio editor so when you start the recording then stop it, the 
resulting

file can't be manipulated.  You can though do so with Gold Wave if you
transfer the saved file to another PC or lap top that has  Gold Wave.
Walter

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Danny Miles
Sent: 25 May 2010 09:06
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
to me.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
(apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

Many thanks, Danny

On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:

Hi Danny.

Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug 
to
record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy 
from

that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to 
a

third copy in analog, and so forth.

As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of

that.
As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and 
record
the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual 
files

and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

Hope this helps.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

GO REDS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmi...@windstream.net


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RE: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-25 Thread Walter Ramage
Hi Danny.  CDEX is a small programme, can't remember the size but certainly
much smaller than Gold Wave.  It is in fact a CD ripper but it is able to
convert files to and from WAVE and or MP3.  It also has a Digital recorder
included and it is very easy to use.  I must admit I never really use it as
I have and use Gold Wave.  However CDEX is very screen reader friendly both
for ripping discs and also for the converter and or audio recorder.
Probably the majority of members on this list probably have it so can help
out if you have trouble.  As I said though it is easy to use and is
intuitive.  All you need remember is F4 is the key to use when you want to
configure it once installed.  The programme is free and if you do a google
search you will find loads of sites offering the download.  My version is an
older version (1.51) and I'm not sure what version is the latest but I think
it is around 1.70 or 1.71, something like that.  As I said in my previous
email, the recorder is basic, keystroke to start then keystroke to stop but
no edit facility.  You can save at whatever bit rate you choose.  Bearing in
mind it is a small programme and it isn't your computer then your friend
won't complain about CDEX as they will probably appreciate it them self.
Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Danny Miles
Sent: 25 May 2010 09:34
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


Hi Walter.  Thanks for advising me again.  No, I haven't thought of
CDEX, as I've never used it and assumed that it was simply an
alternative to Goldwave but with less features.  One of the main
issues with putting Goldwave on this computer is the lack of available
space for programmes, but if CDEX is so basic I presume it takes up
very little room.  My stand alone CD recorder doesn't allow editing,
so the lack of such a feature isn't really an issue.  Can you please
advise on where to find it and any tutorials, and whether it needs any
additional Jaws scripts?

Again, thanks for this idea, and any other ideas or contributions from
people will still be appreciated as you can never have enough
knowledge.

Cheers, Danny

On 5/25/10, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 Hi Danny.  If you are unable to use Gold Wave for recordings on that
 computer then have you tried using CDEX.  This will record straight onto
the
 hard drive or on to an external hard drive.  Unfortunately though, it
isn't
 an audio editor so when you start the recording then stop it, the
resulting
 file can't be manipulated.  You can though do so with Gold Wave if you
 transfer the saved file to another PC or lap top that has  Gold Wave.
 Walter

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Danny Miles
 Sent: 25 May 2010 09:06
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


 Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
 copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
 an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
 appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
 borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
 back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
 suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
 discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
 to me.

 I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
 (apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
 drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
 to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

 Many thanks, Danny

 On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:
 Hi Danny.

 Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
 original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug
to
 record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy
from
 that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
 discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
 copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to a
 third copy in analog, and so forth.

 As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of
 that.
 As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and record
 the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual files
 and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

 Hope this helps.

 Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

 GO REDS!
 Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
 kmi...@windstream.net


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Re: flack files and not being able to add them to a CD to burn them

2010-05-25 Thread Gianluca Apollaro

Hi Casey,
Yes, I think is the correct place.

On 25/05/2010 00:08, Casey wrote:
Hi again I don't have the c common files audio plugin file in my ahead 
folder.
But if I go to program files under my C drive and go under my ahead 
folder and in that folder I have a Nero folder.

In that folder I found a audio plugins folder.
Is that were I need to put those plugins or is that incorrect?
If that is the correct place then I will give it a try putting them in 
there.

Thanks again and have anice day.

Casey
- Original Message - From: Gianluca Apollaro 
gianluca.apollar...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: flack files and not being able to add them to a CD to 
burn them




Hi Casey,
The archive I gave you is a zip file, so you have to put them 
manually into a folder.

The folder should be
C:\Program files\common Files\Ahead\AudioPlugins. I said should be 
because I use an italian operating system so there might be 
translation errors.

Best regards,
gianluca.
Skype Id: gianluca8815

On 24/05/2010 05:45, Casey wrote:

Hi thanks for the pluggins that you sent me.
Now when I go to install them after I have down loaded them.
Where do I install them to or when I go to install them do they just 
know where to go when they are being installed?

Thanks again and I will look forward to giving these a try.

Casey- Original Message - From: Gianluca Apollaro 
gianluca.apollar...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: flack files and not being able to add them to a CD to 
burn them




Hi Casey,
Here is a link with what you need. there is the nero plugin for 
flac and other plugins.

If you need more help, fell free to ask

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5126017/plugins%20NERO.zip

Best regards
Gianluca
skype: gianluca8815

On 22/05/2010 19:25, Casey wrote:
Hi I have been trying to make a few CD'S of files that are flack 
and I select the folder of them that I want and it says that it 
can't add them unless there is a educated plug in installed.

That is what Nero is telling me.
So how do you make it so you can burn these files and or where do 
you get this educated plug in from to make this work?

All assistance is welcome.

Casey

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