Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
Depends on how you look at it, from my own personal experience - and I expect 
99% people to disagree with me as they've probably never laid a hand on a Mac 
let alone record audio/video on one - the Mac presents a far better alternative 
to recording all round than does the Windows PC these days and I won't bother 
arguing the why's and the wherefore's here but I will say that I've been using 
my Mac machines for 5 years and PC's for longer, I use both and both systems 
have good and bad points but if you're looking at audio? Well the Mac thrashes 
the PC quite frankly as far as accessible recording software goes and recording 
software that actually and successfully does what its designed to do.

As stated, its not the fault of the people at High Criteria, they've done their 
level best with Total Recorder and associated products and no doubt about it! 
Total Recorder is a fine piece of software, those who read the list will in 
fact know that Total Recorder is one of those tools I have in my Audio Toolbox 
when using a PC.


On 19/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

> Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve with a $20 
> sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these issues. But just to 
> be clear, you can record a stream, and still use Voiceover without getting 
> Voiceover in the recording. Is that right?
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
> 
> 
>> Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons why I 
>> switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management of audio is far 
>> better, easier to capture sound from another piece of software, device etc.
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
>> 
>>> yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will 
>>> work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the 
>>> reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen reader 
>>> and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 hours and 
>>> 3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i know, 
>>> because the quality isn't going to be perfect, but the music will be there. 
>>> The site I want to record from has changed their archiving method from 
>>> windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an embeded javascript 
>>> player. I have firefox and so far haven't found anything that can record an 
>>> audio stream just in firefox. there's this freecorder add on that I 
>>> installed but it doesn't look accessible. any thoughts on this? again, it's 
>>> a crude plan but I don't know enough java, I know no java programming, I 
>>> just looked at the source of the page of the media player.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave c. bahr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
 continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
 sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
 from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
 recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
 for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -
 Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr"  To: "PC
 Audio Discussion List"  Sent: Sunday,
 September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
 screen reader coming through?
 
 
 > Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
 > record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
 > internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
 > soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
 > want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
 > running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
 >
 > --
 >
 >
 > Dave c. bahr
 >
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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve with a 
$20 sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these issues. But 
just to be clear, you can record a stream, and still use Voiceover without 
getting Voiceover in the recording. Is that right?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons why I 
switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management of audio is far 
better, easier to capture sound from another piece of software, device 
etc.



On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:

yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will 
work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the 
reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen reader 
and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 hours 
and 3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i 
know, because the quality isn't going to be perfect, but the music will 
be there. The site I want to record from has changed their archiving 
method from windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an 
embeded javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't found 
anything that can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's this 
freecorder add on that I installed but it doesn't look accessible. any 
thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I don't know enough java, 
I know no java programming, I just looked at the source of the page of 
the media player.



Dave c. bahr


On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -
Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr"  To: "PC
Audio Discussion List"  Sent: Sunday,
September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
screen reader coming through?


> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
> soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
> want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
> running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>
> --
>
>
> Dave c. bahr
>
>
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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Personally, if I switch to Windows 7, I'll just get a cheap 2nd sound card 
and use Total Recorder. Even in XP, I frequently record through another 
sound card so I can keep using Jaws with my computer's card. This way the 
stream gets recorded, and I can keep using Jaws to do other things without 
hearing the stream.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Bahr" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will 
work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the 
reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen reader 
and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 hours and 
3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i know, 
because the quality isn't going to be perfect, but the music will be 
there. The site I want to record from has changed their archiving method 
from windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an embeded 
javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't found anything that 
can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's this freecorder add on 
that I installed but it doesn't look accessible. any thoughts on this? 
again, it's a crude plan but I don't know enough java, I know no java 
programming, I just looked at the source of the page of the media player.



Dave c. bahr


On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

 In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
 continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
 sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
 from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
 recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
 for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -
 Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr"  To: "PC
 Audio Discussion List"  Sent: Sunday,
 September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
 screen reader coming through?


> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
> soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
> want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
> running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>
> --
>
>
> Dave c. bahr
>
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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons why I switched 
to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management of audio is far better, 
easier to capture sound from another piece of software, device etc.


On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:

> yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will work. 
> I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the reverse it 
> really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen reader and leave the 
> stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 hours and 3 minutes, the 
> archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i know, because the quality 
> isn't going to be perfect, but the music will be there. The site I want to 
> record from has changed their archiving method from windows media .asx 
> playlist files to what looks like an embeded javascript player. I have 
> firefox and so far haven't found anything that can record an audio stream 
> just in firefox. there's this freecorder add on that I installed but it 
> doesn't look accessible. any thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I 
> don't know enough java, I know no java programming, I just looked at the 
> source of the page of the media player.
> 
> 
> Dave c. bahr
> 
> 
> On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
>> In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
>> continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
>> sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
>> from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
>> recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
>> for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -
>> Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr"  To: "PC
>> Audio Discussion List"  Sent: Sunday,
>> September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
>> screen reader coming through?
>> 
>> 
>> > Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
>> > record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
>> > internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
>> > soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
>> > want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
>> > running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave c. bahr
>> >
>> >
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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dave Bahr
yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will 
work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the 
reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen 
reader and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 
hours and 3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not 
ideal, i know, because the quality isn't going to be perfect, but the 
music will be there. The site I want to record from has changed their 
archiving method from windows media .asx playlist files to what looks 
like an embeded javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't 
found anything that can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's 
this freecorder add on that I installed but it doesn't look accessible. 
any thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I don't know enough 
java, I know no java programming, I just looked at the source of the 
page of the media player.



Dave c. bahr


On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

 In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
 continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
 sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
 from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
 recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
 for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -
 Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr"  To: "PC
 Audio Discussion List"  Sent: Sunday,
 September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
 screen reader coming through?


> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
> soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
> want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
> running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>
> --
>
>
> Dave c. bahr
>
>
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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dave Scrimenti
In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and continuing with 
7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes sound so Total Recorder 
can no longer separate out the screen reader from the stream you want to 
record. The only way is to use background recording, which only works with 
some streams, or use one sound card for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound 
card for recording. .
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Bahr" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:15 PM
Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to record a 
sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this internet radio stream 
that I want to record but when I select my soundcard it always just gets 
the reader and not the sound source I want, this is in total recorder. I 
can't find a way to do it, running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total 
recorder.


--


Dave c. bahr


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recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-18 Thread Dave Bahr
Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to record a 
sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this internet radio 
stream that I want to record but when I select my soundcard it always 
just gets the reader and not the sound source I want, this is in total 
recorder. I can't find a way to do it, running windows 7 64 bit with 
demo of total recorder.


--


Dave c. bahr


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Re: CDBurnerXP tutorial

2011-09-18 Thread kim kelly

Thank you for this information.

Kim McNatt-Kelly
Email and facebook:
kim...@cableone.net

Have a wonderful day.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dean Masters" 

To: "PC Audio" 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: CDBurnerXP tutorial



CDBurnerXP tutorial

CDBurnerXP is a free disc burning program that works with Windows PC's 
from XP to current.
The best place to get this cd and dvd burning program is through 
www.ninite.com


I suggest that you not go to the program through the autostart when you 
put a blank disc in the drive but start it from the desktop.


When starting from the desktop you will have a number of buttons you can 
tab through. Just enter on the one that describes what you want to create.


By default the explorer panel is checked in the view menu. I recommend 
going into the view menu and entering on explorer view to uncheck it.
Now there are just two areas you can tab between. One is the list of files 
to burn and the other tells you how much space is left on the disc. If you 
hear minus that means there is too much to fit on the disc.


to delete a file from the list of files to burn, just arrow to the file 
and hit the delete key.In JAWS this is the decimal point on the numpad.


To add files you want to burn hit control + j.
To add folders you want to burn hit control + k.
With both of these you will end up with a dialog that is like the Windows 
dialogs.


Once you are ready to burn the disc hit control + b.
The burn tab will come up. Tab through the options and select what you 
want.

If you want no space between tracks hit alt + o.
If you want space between tracks hit alt + s.
Tab to the burn disc button and hit enter.

You will hear a cancel button but this is while it is configuring the 
files to be burned. So just sit still and wait for it to work.
Next it will bring up a page where you can see how long it has taken and 
will take to burn the disc.
When it is through it will bring up a page that tells you it was 
successful. It willl bring up an OK button so enter on it.

On the next page tab to the close button and hit enter.
You are now in the original part of the program.

If you want to burn a disc of other material hit alt + e then c to clear 
the list of files to burn.
It willl ask if you are sure you want to clear all the files. If you do 
then enter on yes.


Dean

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CDBurnerXP tutorial

2011-09-18 Thread Dean Masters

CDBurnerXP tutorial

CDBurnerXP is a free disc burning program that works with Windows PC's from 
XP to current.
The best place to get this cd and dvd burning program is through 
www.ninite.com


I suggest that you not go to the program through the autostart when you put 
a blank disc in the drive but start it from the desktop.


When starting from the desktop you will have a number of buttons you can tab 
through. Just enter on the one that describes what you want to create.


By default the explorer panel is checked in the view menu. I recommend going 
into the view menu and entering on explorer view to uncheck it.
Now there are just two areas you can tab between. One is the list of files 
to burn and the other tells you how much space is left on the disc. If you 
hear minus that means there is too much to fit on the disc.


to delete a file from the list of files to burn, just arrow to the file and 
hit the delete key.In JAWS this is the decimal point on the numpad.


To add files you want to burn hit control + j.
To add folders you want to burn hit control + k.
With both of these you will end up with a dialog that is like the Windows 
dialogs.


Once you are ready to burn the disc hit control + b.
The burn tab will come up. Tab through the options and select what you want.
If you want no space between tracks hit alt + o.
If you want space between tracks hit alt + s.
Tab to the burn disc button and hit enter.

You will hear a cancel button but this is while it is configuring the files 
to be burned. So just sit still and wait for it to work.
Next it will bring up a page where you can see how long it has taken and 
will take to burn the disc.
When it is through it will bring up a page that tells you it was successful. 
It willl bring up an OK button so enter on it.

On the next page tab to the close button and hit enter.
You are now in the original part of the program.

If you want to burn a disc of other material hit alt + e then c to clear the 
list of files to burn.
It willl ask if you are sure you want to clear all the files. If you do then 
enter on yes.


Dean 



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audio cd.???

2011-09-18 Thread Bardia


hello!
I have question about burning an audio CD to my friend.
I will build my boards a week.
from a  butic.
but what software can I use?
there RW models for audio-CD also
has the following programs installed on  my  computer GoldWave 
Audiograbber Express Burn and Nero

thanks for your help.
Sincerely Bardia zakeri



hejsan!
Jag har fråga om  att bränna  en audio-cd till min vän.
Jag kommer att skaffa mig skivor i veckan.
men vilka program kan jag använda?
finns det  rw modeller på audio-cd också
har följande program installerade på datorn  GoldWave Audiograbber 
express burn och Nero

tack för hjälpen.
Mvh BArdia zakeri

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